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Billy boy, give it up and do a better job of picking your fights in the future.You can't say the CBO is wrong without proof and compare this country to others. That is just fluff and you know it. Prove the CBO wrong or get off your high horse.
Again, you still havemt proven dems support subsidies (also known as corporate welfare) more than republicans. Obama supporting it hardly proves it.
Why have you still not acknowledged the hypocrisy of republicans backing corporate welfare but not food stamps? Also, you only proved dems have supported subsidies which I already admitted. You haven't proven that they suppor them as often or as long as republicans have.
Enough of these analogies. It is a pathetic attempt at arguing. It is a feeble analogy anyway. Anyone who qualifies for food stamps, and who has children (which is most of them), need the assistance.
Also, according to the CBO, raising the minimum wage to 10.10 would kill about 500,000 jobs but even that is a liberal estimate. Either way, it would lift 900,000 people out of poverty and improve the income of 24 million people. The good far outweighs the bad. Also, the increase in consumer spending would improve the economy.
The CBO is wrong. It would kill far more jobs than that, as it has in the past. Further, it would not lift people out of poverty, because the poverty line would rise, with the inflation caused by the minimum wage.
You seem to forget something. Many countries have tried this method, and it doesn't work. France has had a higher cost of labor than the US, and France has had double digit unemployment FOR DECADES.
Greece tried this in 2010. They announced a plan to increase their minimum wage, and said that it would give people more money, and it would benefit the economy. At that time in 2010, the unemployment rate was supposed to drop.
I predicted back in 2010, that not only would the minimum wage not benefit the economy, or benefit people, it would completely reverse the dropping unemployment and increase it. That is exactly what happened. The economy got worse, the unemployment rate got higher, and even the Socialists in Greece figure it out, because they reversed policy, and cut the minimum wage, in order to create jobs.
Now back to the original conversation....
You have made the claim several times that:
"it is republicans who, more than democrats, push subsidies."
And now:
"republicans backing corporate welfare"
YOUR LINK........ had a list of corporate subsidies, which I detailed on this thread.
Which of the subsidies that *YOUR LINK* provided, would you claim is the "Republican backed subsidies"?
You come on this forum with a citation, and now you can't even point something on your own citation that supports the claims you made?
And as far as the aspect that if they qualify then they automatically must need it? What kind of bull crap is that?
Does your logic not apply to anything else? If companies qualify for welfare, then they must need it.... right?
Millionaire got food stamps; Obama Administration helps wealthy get welfare - Washington DC SCOTUS | Examiner.com
She must need it! I mean... she's got two houses now, so she has bills to pay, and thus she needs it! Right? She qualifies therefore she must need it after winning the lottery.
Wall Street Journal: Food Stamps for Millionaires | James BovardJames Bovard
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel revealed that Wisconsin food-stamp recipients routinely sell their benefit cards on Facebook. The investigation also found that “nearly 2,000 recipients claimed they lost their card six or more times in 2010 and requested replacements.” USDA rules require that lost cards be speedily replaced. The Wisconsin Policy Research Institute concluded: “Prosecutors have simply stopped prosecuting the vast majority of [food-stamp] fraud cases in virtually all counties, including the one with the most recipients, Milwaukee.”
Selling their cards on Facebook, and then claiming they were lost, and having them replaced at tax payer expense. And the government has just flat out stopped prosecuting fraud.... oh but I thought if they qualified they must need them? They need them so much, they are selling them on Facebook?
No, you are full of crap. Just flat out, you are wrong. The fact they qualify, alone, does not mean they need them.
Dude... *I* qualify for food stamps. I just refuse to use it, because I work for a living, and can pay for myself.
You can't say the CBO is wrong without proof and compare this country to others. That is just fluff and you know it. Prove the CBO wrong or get off your high horse.
Again, you still havemt proven dems support subsidies (also known as corporate welfare) more than republicans. Obama supporting it hardly proves it.
Direct Federal Subsidies to Corporations. The Cato Institute estimates that federal subsidies to corporations costs taxpayers almost $100 billion every year.
Based on their income and the amount of money they receive, you still haven't come with a logical argument as to why they shouldn't get it. Enough of your bullshit analogies. It is a pathetic attempt at an argument.
You claimed food stamp recipients could easily afford food because of your idiotic logic about potatoes. I made it obvious that these people can't afford all of the food groups. If they could, they would have better functioning bodies which means less fat storage and faster metabolism. IF you understood nutrition, you would have a clue but obviously you don't.
So if my income is low, and the amount I steal from you is low, then I should be allowed to get it?
Where do you live, I'd like to pick up some cash from you.
No, you made the claim that 'junk food is cheap', when in reality buying regular food at the super market is much much cheaper.
What you are proving is that you have no idea what things really cost at the super market.
Um no based on SNAP limitations, I made it clear they can't afford all of the food groups. You are wrong and you know it. All that being said, you can buy MORE food at a time if it is junk food. The food you discussed would not cover their whole diet.
The CBO is wrong. It would kill far more jobs than that, as it has in the past. Further, it would not lift people out of poverty, because the poverty line would rise, with the inflation caused by the minimum wage.
You seem to forget something. Many countries have tried this method, and it doesn't work. France has had a higher cost of labor than the US, and France has had double digit unemployment FOR DECADES.
Greece tried this in 2010. They announced a plan to increase their minimum wage, and said that it would give people more money, and it would benefit the economy. At that time in 2010, the unemployment rate was supposed to drop.
I predicted back in 2010, that not only would the minimum wage not benefit the economy, or benefit people, it would completely reverse the dropping unemployment and increase it. That is exactly what happened. The economy got worse, the unemployment rate got higher, and even the Socialists in Greece figure it out, because they reversed policy, and cut the minimum wage, in order to create jobs.
Now back to the original conversation....
You have made the claim several times that:
"it is republicans who, more than democrats, push subsidies."
And now:
"republicans backing corporate welfare"
YOUR LINK........ had a list of corporate subsidies, which I detailed on this thread.
Which of the subsidies that *YOUR LINK* provided, would you claim is the "Republican backed subsidies"?
You come on this forum with a citation, and now you can't even point something on your own citation that supports the claims you made?
And as far as the aspect that if they qualify then they automatically must need it? What kind of bull crap is that?
Does your logic not apply to anything else? If companies qualify for welfare, then they must need it.... right?
Millionaire got food stamps; Obama Administration helps wealthy get welfare - Washington DC SCOTUS | Examiner.com
She must need it! I mean... she's got two houses now, so she has bills to pay, and thus she needs it! Right? She qualifies therefore she must need it after winning the lottery.
Wall Street Journal: Food Stamps for Millionaires | James BovardJames Bovard
Selling their cards on Facebook, and then claiming they were lost, and having them replaced at tax payer expense. And the government has just flat out stopped prosecuting fraud.... oh but I thought if they qualified they must need them? They need them so much, they are selling them on Facebook?
No, you are full of crap. Just flat out, you are wrong. The fact they qualify, alone, does not mean they need them.
Dude... *I* qualify for food stamps. I just refuse to use it, because I work for a living, and can pay for myself.
You can't say the CBO is wrong without proof and compare this country to others. That is just fluff and you know it. Prove the CBO wrong or get off your high horse.
Again, you still havemt proven dems support subsidies (also known as corporate welfare) more than republicans. Obama supporting it hardly proves it.
Hypocrite. You haven't provided any support at all for your endless claims that Republicans support subsidies more than Democraps.
Yet, I am supposed to support my claim... WHICH I HAVE. I have supported my claim. In the very first post, you said....
"2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year. "
In support of that, you posted this link.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
Which makes this statement:
Direct Federal Subsidies to Corporations. The Cato Institute estimates that federal subsidies to corporations costs taxpayers almost $100 billion every year.
Therefore, I went and got these two links, which came from the Cato Institute, detailing the $91.9 Billion in subsidies.
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency1.jpg
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency-21.jpg
I went through these subsidies, and posted on this thread, those subsides, and who they generally benefit.
Nearly all of them, are Democrap created, Democrap supported, left-wing projects.
Now listen up child.... I will debate maturely with any adult / man that wishes to discuss the topic, but I have quite a bit less patients for total babies.
But if you intend to come on here, and post a link as proof of your position, you need to be an adult enough, and man enough, of a person to admit when the link doesn't support your position.
I have ask you repeatedly over and over, to point to me on those lists, which of those subsidies, are the Republican created and Republican pushed corporate welfare, and you have been too immature, too childish, and too ignorant, to even point to a single one and say that's the Republican subsidy, or admit you were wrong.
You either back your position, or just except the fact that we are going to mock you for being the ignorant childish fool that you are. Time to put up, or shut up child. If you are man, act like it. Either answer the question, or admit you are wrong.
I'll be waiting right here little "billy" for your answer.
The CBO is wrong. It would kill far more jobs than that, as it has in the past. Further, it would not lift people out of poverty, because the poverty line would rise, with the inflation caused by the minimum wage.
You seem to forget something. Many countries have tried this method, and it doesn't work. France has had a higher cost of labor than the US, and France has had double digit unemployment FOR DECADES.
Greece tried this in 2010. They announced a plan to increase their minimum wage, and said that it would give people more money, and it would benefit the economy. At that time in 2010, the unemployment rate was supposed to drop.
I predicted back in 2010, that not only would the minimum wage not benefit the economy, or benefit people, it would completely reverse the dropping unemployment and increase it. That is exactly what happened. The economy got worse, the unemployment rate got higher, and even the Socialists in Greece figure it out, because they reversed policy, and cut the minimum wage, in order to create jobs.
Now back to the original conversation....
You have made the claim several times that:
"it is republicans who, more than democrats, push subsidies."
And now:
"republicans backing corporate welfare"
YOUR LINK........ had a list of corporate subsidies, which I detailed on this thread.
Which of the subsidies that *YOUR LINK* provided, would you claim is the "Republican backed subsidies"?
You come on this forum with a citation, and now you can't even point something on your own citation that supports the claims you made?
And as far as the aspect that if they qualify then they automatically must need it? What kind of bull crap is that?
Does your logic not apply to anything else? If companies qualify for welfare, then they must need it.... right?
Millionaire got food stamps; Obama Administration helps wealthy get welfare - Washington DC SCOTUS | Examiner.com
She must need it! I mean... she's got two houses now, so she has bills to pay, and thus she needs it! Right? She qualifies therefore she must need it after winning the lottery.
Wall Street Journal: Food Stamps for Millionaires | James BovardJames Bovard
Selling their cards on Facebook, and then claiming they were lost, and having them replaced at tax payer expense. And the government has just flat out stopped prosecuting fraud.... oh but I thought if they qualified they must need them? They need them so much, they are selling them on Facebook?
No, you are full of crap. Just flat out, you are wrong. The fact they qualify, alone, does not mean they need them.
Dude... *I* qualify for food stamps. I just refuse to use it, because I work for a living, and can pay for myself.
You can't say the CBO is wrong without proof and compare this country to others. That is just fluff and you know it. Prove the CBO wrong or get off your high horse.
Again, you still havemt proven dems support subsidies (also known as corporate welfare) more than republicans. Obama supporting it hardly proves it.
Hypocrite. You haven't provided any support at all for your endless claims that Republicans support subsidies more than Democraps.
Yet, I am supposed to support my claim... WHICH I HAVE. I have supported my claim. In the very first post, you said....
"2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year. "
In support of that, you posted this link.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
Which makes this statement:
Direct Federal Subsidies to Corporations. The Cato Institute estimates that federal subsidies to corporations costs taxpayers almost $100 billion every year.
Therefore, I went and got these two links, which came from the Cato Institute, detailing the $91.9 Billion in subsidies.
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency1.jpg
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency-21.jpg
I went through these subsidies, and posted on this thread, those subsides, and who they generally benefit.
Nearly all of them, are Democrap created, Democrap supported, left-wing projects.
Now listen up child.... I will debate maturely with any adult / man that wishes to discuss the topic, but I have quite a bit less patients for total babies.
But if you intend to come on here, and post a link as proof of your position, you need to be an adult enough, and man enough, of a person to admit when the link doesn't support your position.
I have ask you repeatedly over and over, to point to me on those lists, which of those subsidies, are the Republican created and Republican pushed corporate welfare, and you have been too immature, too childish, and too ignorant, to even point to a single one and say that's the Republican subsidy, or admit you were wrong.
You either back your position, or just except the fact that we are going to mock you for being the ignorant childish fool that you are. Time to put up, or shut up child. If you are man, act like it. Either answer the question, or admit you are wrong.
I'll be waiting right here little "billy" for your answer.
You can't say the CBO is wrong without proof and compare this country to others. That is just fluff and you know it. Prove the CBO wrong or get off your high horse.
Again, you still havemt proven dems support subsidies (also known as corporate welfare) more than republicans. Obama supporting it hardly proves it.
Hypocrite. You haven't provided any support at all for your endless claims that Republicans support subsidies more than Democraps.
Yet, I am supposed to support my claim... WHICH I HAVE. I have supported my claim. In the very first post, you said....
"2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year. "
In support of that, you posted this link.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
Which makes this statement:
Direct Federal Subsidies to Corporations. The Cato Institute estimates that federal subsidies to corporations costs taxpayers almost $100 billion every year.
Therefore, I went and got these two links, which came from the Cato Institute, detailing the $91.9 Billion in subsidies.
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency1.jpg
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency-21.jpg
I went through these subsidies, and posted on this thread, those subsides, and who they generally benefit.
Nearly all of them, are Democrap created, Democrap supported, left-wing projects.
Now listen up child.... I will debate maturely with any adult / man that wishes to discuss the topic, but I have quite a bit less patients for total babies.
But if you intend to come on here, and post a link as proof of your position, you need to be an adult enough, and man enough, of a person to admit when the link doesn't support your position.
I have ask you repeatedly over and over, to point to me on those lists, which of those subsidies, are the Republican created and Republican pushed corporate welfare, and you have been too immature, too childish, and too ignorant, to even point to a single one and say that's the Republican subsidy, or admit you were wrong.
You either back your position, or just except the fact that we are going to mock you for being the ignorant childish fool that you are. Time to put up, or shut up child. If you are man, act like it. Either answer the question, or admit you are wrong.
I'll be waiting right here little "billy" for your answer.
Bullshit. You didn't prove that historically dems support corporate welfare more than republicans. I will give you credit for proving that SOME Of the subsidies I posted were supported by democrats. However you cherry picked them.
You can't say the CBO is wrong without proof and compare this country to others. That is just fluff and you know it. Prove the CBO wrong or get off your high horse.
Again, you still havemt proven dems support subsidies (also known as corporate welfare) more than republicans. Obama supporting it hardly proves it.
Hypocrite. You haven't provided any support at all for your endless claims that Republicans support subsidies more than Democraps.
Yet, I am supposed to support my claim... WHICH I HAVE. I have supported my claim. In the very first post, you said....
"2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year. "
In support of that, you posted this link.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
Which makes this statement:
Direct Federal Subsidies to Corporations. The Cato Institute estimates that federal subsidies to corporations costs taxpayers almost $100 billion every year.
Therefore, I went and got these two links, which came from the Cato Institute, detailing the $91.9 Billion in subsidies.
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency1.jpg
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency-21.jpg
I went through these subsidies, and posted on this thread, those subsides, and who they generally benefit.
Nearly all of them, are Democrap created, Democrap supported, left-wing projects.
Now listen up child.... I will debate maturely with any adult / man that wishes to discuss the topic, but I have quite a bit less patients for total babies.
But if you intend to come on here, and post a link as proof of your position, you need to be an adult enough, and man enough, of a person to admit when the link doesn't support your position.
I have ask you repeatedly over and over, to point to me on those lists, which of those subsidies, are the Republican created and Republican pushed corporate welfare, and you have been too immature, too childish, and too ignorant, to even point to a single one and say that's the Republican subsidy, or admit you were wrong.
You either back your position, or just except the fact that we are going to mock you for being the ignorant childish fool that you are. Time to put up, or shut up child. If you are man, act like it. Either answer the question, or admit you are wrong.
I'll be waiting right here little "billy" for your answer.
Bullshit. You didn't prove that historically dems support corporate welfare more than republicans. I will give you credit for proving that SOME Of the subsidies I posted were supported by democrats. However you cherry picked them.
Hypocrite. You haven't provided any support at all for your endless claims that Republicans support subsidies more than Democraps.
Yet, I am supposed to support my claim... WHICH I HAVE. I have supported my claim. In the very first post, you said....
"2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year. "
In support of that, you posted this link.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
Which makes this statement:
Therefore, I went and got these two links, which came from the Cato Institute, detailing the $91.9 Billion in subsidies.
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency1.jpg
http://thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Corporate-Welfare-Programs-BY-Agency-21.jpg
I went through these subsidies, and posted on this thread, those subsides, and who they generally benefit.
Nearly all of them, are Democrap created, Democrap supported, left-wing projects.
Now listen up child.... I will debate maturely with any adult / man that wishes to discuss the topic, but I have quite a bit less patients for total babies.
But if you intend to come on here, and post a link as proof of your position, you need to be an adult enough, and man enough, of a person to admit when the link doesn't support your position.
I have ask you repeatedly over and over, to point to me on those lists, which of those subsidies, are the Republican created and Republican pushed corporate welfare, and you have been too immature, too childish, and too ignorant, to even point to a single one and say that's the Republican subsidy, or admit you were wrong.
You either back your position, or just except the fact that we are going to mock you for being the ignorant childish fool that you are. Time to put up, or shut up child. If you are man, act like it. Either answer the question, or admit you are wrong.
I'll be waiting right here little "billy" for your answer.
Bullshit. You didn't prove that historically dems support corporate welfare more than republicans. I will give you credit for proving that SOME Of the subsidies I posted were supported by democrats. However you cherry picked them.
As I expected, child. I listed every single subsidy in the entire list, child. You haven't show anything.... as in ANYTHING... to contradict my statements, or prove your own, child. I should have known I was talking to a baby. Go grow up, child. When you become a man, when you are adult, come back and prove it, then we'll treat you like a man.
Bullshit. You didn't prove that historically dems support corporate welfare more than republicans. I will give you credit for proving that SOME Of the subsidies I posted were supported by democrats. However you cherry picked them.
As I expected, child. I listed every single subsidy in the entire list, child. You haven't show anything.... as in ANYTHING... to contradict my statements, or prove your own, child. I should have known I was talking to a baby. Go grow up, child. When you become a man, when you are adult, come back and prove it, then we'll treat you like a man.
Yeah whatever dude. I'm a baby. You're the manliest of men that has ever existed. Feel better about yourself?
As I expected, child. I listed every single subsidy in the entire list, child. You haven't show anything.... as in ANYTHING... to contradict my statements, or prove your own, child. I should have known I was talking to a baby. Go grow up, child. When you become a man, when you are adult, come back and prove it, then we'll treat you like a man.
Yeah whatever dude. I'm a baby. You're the manliest of men that has ever existed. Feel better about yourself?
i'm watching and he's right and you're wrong left-wing idiot. at the heart of what you spew is a central hypocrisy and dishonesty
Yeah whatever dude. I'm a baby. You're the manliest of men that has ever existed. Feel better about yourself?
i'm watching and he's right and you're wrong left-wing idiot. at the heart of what you spew is a central hypocrisy and dishonesty
Yeah but he's a lazy good for nothing democrat, so hypocrisy and dishonesty is best he has to look forward to in life. Don't take that away from him!
i'm watching and he's right and you're wrong left-wing idiot. at the heart of what you spew is a central hypocrisy and dishonesty
Yeah but he's a lazy good for nothing democrat, so hypocrisy and dishonesty is best he has to look forward to in life. Don't take that away from him!
And you're in the party of corrupt hypocrites who don't give a shit about the poor. The democrats are full of shit, but no one is destroying this country like republicans. And come on, it isn't just the poor republicans in congress don't give a shit about, it's the middle class. Tell me what have republicans ever done for the middle class. It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.
Yeah whatever dude. I'm a baby. You're the manliest of men that has ever existed. Feel better about yourself?
i'm watching and he's right and you're wrong left-wing idiot. at the heart of what you spew is a central hypocrisy and dishonesty
Yeah but he's a lazy good for nothing democrat, so hypocrisy and dishonesty is best he has to look forward to in life. Don't take that away from him!
And you're in the party of corrupt hypocrites who don't give a shit about the poor. The democrats are full of shit, but no one is destroying this country like republicans. And come on, it isn't just the poor republicans in congress don't give a shit about, it's the middle class. Tell me what have republicans ever done for the middle class. It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.
Yeah but he's a lazy good for nothing democrat, so hypocrisy and dishonesty is best he has to look forward to in life. Don't take that away from him!
And you're in the party of corrupt hypocrites who don't give a shit about the poor. The democrats are full of shit, but no one is destroying this country like republicans. And come on, it isn't just the poor republicans in congress don't give a shit about, it's the middle class. Tell me what have republicans ever done for the middle class. It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.
It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.
What was this big Obama tax cut?
And you're in the party of corrupt hypocrites who don't give a shit about the poor. The democrats are full of shit, but no one is destroying this country like republicans. And come on, it isn't just the poor republicans in congress don't give a shit about, it's the middle class. Tell me what have republicans ever done for the middle class. It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.
It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.
What was this big Obama tax cut?
Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.
Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package
It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.
What was this big Obama tax cut?
Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.
Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package
And the far left propaganda just continues on.....