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I don't like corporate welfare, but I don't like it on both sides, Democrats seemed to be happy with TARP, happy with subsidizing GM, or giving tax breaks to GE. The throwing money at Solyndra.
The more I learn, I find out how hypocritical Democrats are. Sorry, but you are a hypocrite.
Yes democrats have supported corporate welfare but historically republicans have always supported it. Not only that, but democrats unlike republicans are honest about the facts on welfare for the poor. The rightwing is ignorant on the most basic facts. It's hypocrisy like none other.
You mind reposting this in any manner that would make actual sense? You are making us all dumber with your reply of jingoistic bullshit. The dems support corp welfare but the repubs supported as well and then you throw in the poor for some stupid fucking reason and that's repub hypocrisy.
Spend a few moments and get your head out of your ass.
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.
Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).
The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.
All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.
SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities
Now the wealthy. Oh boy.
1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.
2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year. 77% of this funding goes to income earners of 100,000 a year or more.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
The more facts we learn, the more realize just how much bullshit republicanism really is.
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
Tax breaks? Like writing off business expenses? LOL!
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
Wealthy hedge fund managers pay billions in taxes each year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
That's funny.
Research by the University of Illinois and UC Berkeley documents that taxpayers pay about $243 billion each year in indirect subsidies to the fast food industry because they pay wages so low that taxpayers must put up $243 billion to pay for public benefits for their workers.
So stop paying those "subsidies". That'll show those mean companies.
The more facts we learn,
The next fact you learn will be the first.
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.
Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).
The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.
All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.
SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities
Now the wealthy. Oh boy.
1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.
2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year. 77% of this funding goes to income earners of 100,000 a year or more.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
The more facts we learn, the more realize just how much bullshit republicanism really is.
You're an idiot. It clearly states Bush spent more than Obama.
Here is everything it saays about Obama.
In other words, he added almost as much as Bush did in 8 years in just 3 years.The second largest contributor to the debt dollar-wise was President Obama. He added $4.8 trillion, a 41% increase, in just one term. Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package, which added $787 billion by cutting taxes, extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects. The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years. Obama's budget included increased defense spending to around $800 billion a year. Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis. Both Presidents Bush and Obama had to contend with higher mandatory mandatory spending for Social Security and Medicare. He also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. However, these savings didn't show up until the later years. For more, see National Debt Under Obama.
Did you notice how I didn't even half to dig into how Bush isn't actually responsible for Obama's first year? Or you I didn't mention the stimulus that worked so well that you are still blaming Bush for the economy? Would you like me to add in the debt since the end of Obama's first term to those numbers just to make you look even dumber than you already do?
How are you so dense to just ignore the first line of your quote? However I do realize that by the time Obama's term is over he would have spent more than Bush. Sure. However there is no spending growth under Obama. He is spending at the same rate Bush did at the end of his second term.
Yes democrats have supported corporate welfare but historically republicans have always supported it. Not only that, but democrats unlike republicans are honest about the facts on welfare for the poor. The rightwing is ignorant on the most basic facts. It's hypocrisy like none other.
You mind reposting this in any manner that would make actual sense? You are making us all dumber with your reply of jingoistic bullshit. The dems support corp welfare but the repubs supported as well and then you throw in the poor for some stupid fucking reason and that's repub hypocrisy.
Spend a few moments and get your head out of your ass.
It's not my fault you don't understand simple nuance. Republicans widely and historically have always supported it. Only some democrats have. Not only that, but democrats are honest about welfare for the poor. Republicans aren't.
You know I am right.
I don't like corporate welfare, but I don't like it on both sides, Democrats seemed to be happy with TARP, happy with subsidizing GM, or giving tax breaks to GE. The throwing money at Solyndra.
The more I learn, I find out how hypocritical Democrats are. Sorry, but you are a hypocrite.
Yes democrats have supported corporate welfare but historically republicans have always supported it. Not only that, but democrats unlike republicans are honest about the facts on welfare for the poor. The rightwing is ignorant on the most basic facts. It's hypocrisy like none other.
And Democrats haven't always supported it?
You are dishonest in your claim, the Democrats have supported and loved the rich, right after Reagan closed up a lot of deductions for the rich, both parties have created more and more deductions a loopholes, to where we have more than ever before.
Democrats and Republicans have supported the rich, they fed the banks, during health care , the Dem protect insurance companies.
NAFTA was a bipartisan attack of working people.
CFR was a bipartisan effort to keep incumbents in and others out.
So spare me your self righteous BS! Because that is all spew.
Try to not be a partisan lemming.
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.
Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).
The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.
All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.
SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities
Now the wealthy. Oh boy.
1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.
2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year. 77% of this funding goes to income earners of 100,000 a year or more.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
The more facts we learn, the more realize just how much bullshit republicanism really is.
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
Tax breaks? Like writing off business expenses? LOL!
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
Wealthy hedge fund managers pay billions in taxes each year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
That's funny.
Research by the University of Illinois and UC Berkeley documents that taxpayers pay about $243 billion each year in indirect subsidies to the fast food industry because they pay wages so low that taxpayers must put up $243 billion to pay for public benefits for their workers.
So stop paying those "subsidies". That'll show those mean companies.
The more facts we learn,
The next fact you learn will be the first.
This is a pathetic attempt.
Tax breaks are tax breaks.
Show me the evidence that they pay billions in taxes. Either way, how does that justify tax payers coughing up 83 billion per year?
You have nothing to offer this thread obviously.
Um yes we very much are talking about subsidies.
You mind reposting this in any manner that would make actual sense? You are making us all dumber with your reply of jingoistic bullshit. The dems support corp welfare but the repubs supported as well and then you throw in the poor for some stupid fucking reason and that's repub hypocrisy.
Spend a few moments and get your head out of your ass.
It's not my fault you don't understand simple nuance. Republicans widely and historically have always supported it. Only some democrats have. Not only that, but democrats are honest about welfare for the poor. Republicans aren't.
You know I am right.
I know you're an idiot. Beyond that I know you can't focus on a coherent point. Beyond that I know you can't defend a position without blaming others for a similar only different position, and be able to differentiate between the two. Beyond that I know you can't think on your own without talking points.
Step up little boy and post your nuance. Let the world see your devine intellectual prowess. I am anxiously awaiting your epic reply! It should prove to be mind altering.
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
Tax breaks? Like writing off business expenses? LOL!
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
Wealthy hedge fund managers pay billions in taxes each year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
That's funny.
Research by the University of Illinois and UC Berkeley documents that taxpayers pay about $243 billion each year in indirect subsidies to the fast food industry because they pay wages so low that taxpayers must put up $243 billion to pay for public benefits for their workers.
So stop paying those "subsidies". That'll show those mean companies.
The more facts we learn,
The next fact you learn will be the first.
This is a pathetic attempt.
Tax breaks are tax breaks.
Show me the evidence that they pay billions in taxes. Either way, how does that justify tax payers coughing up 83 billion per year?
You have nothing to offer this thread obviously.
Um yes we very much are talking about subsidies.
Either way, how does that justify tax payers coughing up 83 billion per year?
Taxpayers don't cough up $83 billion to hedge fund managers.
Your poor reading skills make me sad.
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.
Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).
The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.
All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.
SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities
Now the wealthy. Oh boy.
1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.
2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year. 77% of this funding goes to income earners of 100,000 a year or more.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
The more facts we learn, the more realize just how much bullshit republicanism really is.
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
Tax breaks? Like writing off business expenses? LOL!
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
Wealthy hedge fund managers pay billions in taxes each year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
That's funny.
Research by the University of Illinois and UC Berkeley documents that taxpayers pay about $243 billion each year in indirect subsidies to the fast food industry because they pay wages so low that taxpayers must put up $243 billion to pay for public benefits for their workers.
So stop paying those "subsidies". That'll show those mean companies.
The more facts we learn,
The next fact you learn will be the first.
This is a pathetic attempt.
Tax breaks are tax breaks.
Show me the evidence that they pay billions in taxes. Either way, how does that justify tax payers coughing up 83 billion per year?
You have nothing to offer this thread obviously.
Um yes we very much are talking about subsidies.
It's not my fault you don't understand simple nuance. Republicans widely and historically have always supported it. Only some democrats have. Not only that, but democrats are honest about welfare for the poor. Republicans aren't.
You know I am right.
I know you're an idiot. Beyond that I know you can't focus on a coherent point. Beyond that I know you can't defend a position without blaming others for a similar only different position, and be able to differentiate between the two. Beyond that I know you can't think on your own without talking points.
Step up little boy and post your nuance. Let the world see your devine intellectual prowess. I am anxiously awaiting your epic reply! It should prove to be mind altering.
You're full of shit. You lost the argument and you know it.
This is a pathetic attempt.
Tax breaks are tax breaks.
Show me the evidence that they pay billions in taxes. Either way, how does that justify tax payers coughing up 83 billion per year?
You have nothing to offer this thread obviously.
Um yes we very much are talking about subsidies.
Either way, how does that justify tax payers coughing up 83 billion per year?
Taxpayers don't cough up $83 billion to hedge fund managers.
Your poor reading skills make me sad.
You know I am right. Give it a rest. Negging me like a child just makes you look weak.
Either way, how does that justify tax payers coughing up 83 billion per year?
Taxpayers don't cough up $83 billion to hedge fund managers.
Your poor reading skills make me sad.
You know I am right. Give it a rest. Negging me like a child just makes you look weak.
Show me that taxpayers "cough up $83 billion" to hedge fund managers.
Unless you're wrong. LOL!
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
Tax breaks? Like writing off business expenses? LOL!
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
Wealthy hedge fund managers pay billions in taxes each year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
That's funny.
Research by the University of Illinois and UC Berkeley documents that taxpayers pay about $243 billion each year in indirect subsidies to the fast food industry because they pay wages so low that taxpayers must put up $243 billion to pay for public benefits for their workers.
So stop paying those "subsidies". That'll show those mean companies.
The more facts we learn,
The next fact you learn will be the first.
This is a pathetic attempt.
Tax breaks are tax breaks.
Show me the evidence that they pay billions in taxes. Either way, how does that justify tax payers coughing up 83 billion per year?
You have nothing to offer this thread obviously.
Um yes we very much are talking about subsidies.
6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year.
Mortgage deductions save tax payers 70 billion a year.
They cost the government 70 billion a year.
Damn, liberals are stupid.
Yes democrats have supported corporate welfare but historically republicans have always supported it. Not only that, but democrats unlike republicans are honest about the facts on welfare for the poor. The rightwing is ignorant on the most basic facts. It's hypocrisy like none other.
And Democrats haven't always supported it?
You are dishonest in your claim, the Democrats have supported and loved the rich, right after Reagan closed up a lot of deductions for the rich, both parties have created more and more deductions a loopholes, to where we have more than ever before.
Democrats and Republicans have supported the rich, they fed the banks, during health care , the Dem protect insurance companies.
NAFTA was a bipartisan attack of working people.
CFR was a bipartisan effort to keep incumbents in and others out.
So spare me your self righteous BS! Because that is all spew.
Try to not be a partisan lemming.
So you're not even going to discuss the hypocrisy in Republican's attempt to cut welfare for the poor? They would cut it off altogether if they had the power.
Democrats are corrupt, but republicans are selfish, corrupt and hypocritical.
You know I find it interesting none of you have the balls to even acknowledge the facts I presented about SNAP.
1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.
2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.
3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.
4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.
5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.
6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year. 77% of this funding goes to income earners of 100,000 a year or more.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
The more facts we learn, the more realize just how much bullshit republicanism really is.
1. Lie.
2. Somewhat true, but generally it's because of leftist causes. You scream and yell about corporations getting money, then turn around and support giving money to corporations. Blame yourself.
3. True, and good. Less money given to government, the better off all of us are.
4. Lie.
5. Lie.
6. True, and good. Less money given to government, the better off we all are.
First, the lies.... A tax deducation, is not a subsidy. Everyone, as in EVERYONE, in this country gets taxes deductions. If a tax deduction is a "subsidy", then absolutely every single freakin person in this entire country is being subsidized.
Which renders the term meaningless, since there is no one not subsidized.
Second, all those examples you list where corporations pay less tax, are good things. I *WANT* corporations to pay less tax. I want them buying stuff, investing stuff, and growing wealth.
I don't them paying that money to government, where it is given to political kick backs, and Wealthy CEOs of say Solyndra walk off with millions in tax money providing nothing.
Your system... bad. My system... good. Ford provided me a car. What did your tax payer funded Solyndra provide me? Nothing but a tax bill.
I would love proof as to what makes what I said "lies". Yet another feeble response and no mention of what I said about SNAP.
During the Postwar Years we had a high marginal tax rate on the wealthiest Americans. We used the revenue to subsidize middle class purchasing power through a variety of programs, including the delivery of affordable college education. We also supported strong unions, which ensured that our workers had high wages and benefits (so they could support their families and give their children the tools of upward mobility). Finally, we had trade policies that made it harder for our capitalists to shift production to places like Communist China. As a result of all these things, our middle class, between 1945-1975, had more disposable income than at any time before or since. This meant that average American families could flock into "Main Street" stores and buy things, the effect of which was the greatest economic growth in US History. Put simply, when consumers have spending money, Capital flows into these markets in order to invest and innovate and capture those consumer-dollars. [Don't try explaining this to "Talk Radio Republicans" because they get their economics from Rush Limbaugh].
The Postwar Years also featured a welfare safety net for people out of work (like Reagan's father, who received help from FDR's government). But - and this is no secret - welfare disbursements did not hold a candle to the subsidies given to business. Indeed, not only did our corporations get the greatest subsidies ever awarded by any government, they also benefited from truly massive investments in industrial infrastructure. Research the technology that came out of the Cold War Pentagon and NASA budgets. (Do Republicans understand the technology needed to put a man on the moon? Do they know where our satellite system came from? Do they know how many industries profit from this government supplied infrastructure? Of course not. They are Republicans. We all have Republican friends who get all their information not from books or careful cross-disciplinary research, but from fucking radio and TV pundits. Do you think Rush Limbaugh has ever talked about where our satellite system comes from? No. His listeners only hear about what government does for the poor. His listeners literally have no idea what government gives to the wealthy. They are the useful idiots of the powers that fund elections and staff government)
You know I am right. Give it a rest. Negging me like a child just makes you look weak.
Show me that taxpayers "cough up $83 billion" to hedge fund managers.
Unless you're wrong. LOL!
It says it here in black and white. Give it a rest.
Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
Yes democrats have supported corporate welfare but historically republicans have always supported it. Not only that, but democrats unlike republicans are honest about the facts on welfare for the poor. The rightwing is ignorant on the most basic facts. It's hypocrisy like none other.
And Democrats haven't always supported it?
You are dishonest in your claim, the Democrats have supported and loved the rich, right after Reagan closed up a lot of deductions for the rich, both parties have created more and more deductions a loopholes, to where we have more than ever before.
Democrats and Republicans have supported the rich, they fed the banks, during health care , the Dem protect insurance companies.
NAFTA was a bipartisan attack of working people.
CFR was a bipartisan effort to keep incumbents in and others out.
So spare me your self righteous BS! Because that is all spew.
Try to not be a partisan lemming.
So you're not even going to discuss the hypocrisy in Republican's attempt to cut welfare for the poor? They would cut it off altogether if they had the power.
Democrats are corrupt, but republicans are selfish, corrupt and hypocritical.
