Republicans are mostly to blame for our debt

[Blues Man]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

no they wouldn't.

because it will never happen.

No politician will ever get elected if he says he's going to increase taxes to cover all spending.

what fantasy land do you call home?

That is the problem. And repubs are worse cause they cut taxes and increase spending.

Biden said he was increasing some taxes and was elected. It’s a start.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

Obama extended the Bush tax cuts and increased spending

Extending the cuts means the rate was not changed. Had they expired rates would have increased.

but you said he should have raised taxes to cover all the spending he initiated he didn't and he still doubled the debt

I’m not saying either party is good, just that repubs are worse. Trump quickly increased Obama deficits.

and Obama doubled the debt. Democrat senators and congress men voted for republican tax cuts too you know

you are saying that it's somehow worse to die from getting strangled than getting shot when you wind up dead either way.

what you want will never happen and no democrat will do it just as no republican will.

so when you buy your ticket back to reality let me know

And trump increased Obama deficits. Bad and worse.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

you need to do some homework

Republicans always start the cuts.

always?

JFK started cutting the top rate of the income tax

We didn’t have a debt problem then.

we didn't?

The debt has increased in every presidential administration since Coolidge

It was small relative to gdp.

so what" you said that debt is bad now you're changing your mind

just like I knew you would

 

[Brain357]

They're not to be taken seriously.

aww Macs growing up.
Maybe one day he will realize the other party does the same exact thing, and then he can be truly "woke"

When have dems pushed tax cuts and spending increases?

obama did

He did not cut taxes.

you sure about that?

Why Did Obama Extend the Bush Tax Cuts in 2010?

President Obama signed tax cuts in 2009, 2010, and 2013. These include the ARRA, the extension of the Bush tax cuts, and the fiscal cliff deal.

www.thebalance.com

Why Did Obama Extend the Bush Tax Cuts in 2010?

President Obama signed tax cuts in 2009, 2010, and 2013. These include the ARRA, the extension of the Bush tax cuts, and the fiscal cliff deal.

www.thebalance.com

Positive. The cuts we had for years were extended. That means rates were unchanged from previous years. That isn’t a cut. What don’t you get?

he added more what part of that don't you get?

read the article

The rates remained unchanged from previous years, that isnt a cut.

Obama added cuta ABOVE and BEYOND the bush tax cuts

read the article

False.

 

[AntonToo]

What programs did Obama say he was willing to cut? . . . . . .

That's right: none.

Look, why don't you stop running your know-nothing mouth, take a bit of time and read this speech by Obama:

Obama’s Speech on Reducing the Budget (Text) (Published 2011)

A text of President Obama’s remarks on reducing the federal budget, as released by the White House on Wednesday.

www.nytimes.com

here is an excerpt from it:

So here's the truth. Around two-thirds of our budget -- two-thirds -- is spent on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and national security. Two-thirds. Programs like unemployment insurance, student loans, veterans' benefits, and tax credits for working families take up another 20 percent.

What's left, after interest on the debt, is just 12 percent for everything else. That's 12 percent for all of our national priorities -- education, clean energy, medical research, transportation, our national parks, food safety, keeping our air and water clean -- you name it -- all of that accounts for 12 percent of our budget.

Now, up till now, the debate here in Washington, the cuts proposed by a lot of folks in Washington, have focused exclusively on that 12 percent. But cuts to that 12 percent alone won't solve the problem. So any serious plan to tackle our deficit will require us to put everything on the table, and take on excess spending wherever it exists in the budget.


Obama CLEARLY has said that he is willing to compromise on spending and to cut major programs like SS, Medicare/Medicaid and etc.

How does Obama's statement prove he agreed to budget cuts? It proves exactly the opposite.

You asked:

"What programs did Obama say he was willing to cut?" Then asserted that the answer was none.

I then gave you Obama's extensive speech about the need to tackle our long term debts and that any such serious effort will requires cuts to major spending programs like SS, Medicare/Medicaid and Defense.

Instead of doing the right thing and admitting being wrong on this, you just double up on your counter-factual ignorance. Good job moron.

 

[Blues Man]

Actually, it was Democrats who killed the 70 percent tax

The Reagan-era tax deal has some lessons to teach reformers like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

www.politico.com

Recalling the Days When Democrats Cut Taxes | RealClearPolitics

Fifty years ago last week, on Feb. 26, 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law the sweeping tax cuts that had been championed by his predecessor, John F. Kennedy. The law brought the top...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

You are going back to times when debt wasn’t out of control. You can do cuts then.

debt is debt.
and we didn't get to where we are today in the last 4 years

As stated in the OP it started with Reagan.

it started a hell of a long time before that.

or do you think nothing existed before 1980?

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

no they wouldn't.

because it will never happen.

No politician will ever get elected if he says he's going to increase taxes to cover all spending.

what fantasy land do you call home?

That is the problem. And repubs are worse cause they cut taxes and increase spending.

Biden said he was increasing some taxes and was elected. It’s a start.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

Obama extended the Bush tax cuts and increased spending

Extending the cuts means the rate was not changed. Had they expired rates would have increased.

but you said he should have raised taxes to cover all the spending he initiated he didn't and he still doubled the debt

I’m not saying either party is good, just that repubs are worse. Trump quickly increased Obama deficits.

and Obama doubled the debt. Democrat senators and congress men voted for republican tax cuts too you know

you are saying that it's somehow worse to die from getting strangled than getting shot when you wind up dead either way.

what you want will never happen and no democrat will do it just as no republican will.

so when you buy your ticket back to reality let me know

And trump increased Obama deficits. Bad and worse.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

you need to do some homework

Republicans always start the cuts.

always?

JFK started cutting the top rate of the income tax

We didn’t have a debt problem then.

we didn't?

The debt has increased in every presidential administration since Coolidge

It was small relative to gdp.

so what" you said that debt is bad now you're changing your mind

just like I knew you would

It is bad when too high relative to gdp. Grow up.

 

[Nostra]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

When did this become the Rubber Room? I guess we can now just post any unhinged rant with no supporting links we want.

You are babbling. You can’t counter clearly. You are a trumper, you love debt.

Counter what? Your OP Brainfart with nothing to support it?

 

[Brain357]

Actually, it was Democrats who killed the 70 percent tax

The Reagan-era tax deal has some lessons to teach reformers like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

www.politico.com

Recalling the Days When Democrats Cut Taxes | RealClearPolitics

Fifty years ago last week, on Feb. 26, 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law the sweeping tax cuts that had been championed by his predecessor, John F. Kennedy. The law brought the top...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

You are going back to times when debt wasn’t out of control. You can do cuts then.

debt is debt.
and we didn't get to where we are today in the last 4 years

As stated in the OP it started with Reagan.

it started a hell of a long time before that.

or do you think nothing existed before 1980?

Reagan tripled the debt. It was quite low previously.

 

[Blues Man]

They're not to be taken seriously.

aww Macs growing up.
Maybe one day he will realize the other party does the same exact thing, and then he can be truly "woke"

When have dems pushed tax cuts and spending increases?

obama did

He did not cut taxes.

you sure about that?

Why Did Obama Extend the Bush Tax Cuts in 2010?

President Obama signed tax cuts in 2009, 2010, and 2013. These include the ARRA, the extension of the Bush tax cuts, and the fiscal cliff deal.

www.thebalance.com

Why Did Obama Extend the Bush Tax Cuts in 2010?

President Obama signed tax cuts in 2009, 2010, and 2013. These include the ARRA, the extension of the Bush tax cuts, and the fiscal cliff deal.

www.thebalance.com

Positive. The cuts we had for years were extended. That means rates were unchanged from previous years. That isn’t a cut. What don’t you get?

he added more what part of that don't you get?

read the article

The rates remained unchanged from previous years, that isnt a cut.

Obama added cuta ABOVE and BEYOND the bush tax cuts

read the article

False.

What Did ARRA Really Do?

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) had seven detailed components. It ended the Great Recession with jobs, tax credits, and spending.

www.thebalance.com

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

When did this become the Rubber Room? I guess we can now just post any unhinged rant with no supporting links we want.

You are babbling. You can’t counter clearly. You are a trumper, you love debt.

Counter what? Your OP Brainfart with nothing to support it?

Trump has added record debt. You trumpers love debt.

 

[Blues Man]

Actually, it was Democrats who killed the 70 percent tax

The Reagan-era tax deal has some lessons to teach reformers like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

www.politico.com

Recalling the Days When Democrats Cut Taxes | RealClearPolitics

Fifty years ago last week, on Feb. 26, 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law the sweeping tax cuts that had been championed by his predecessor, John F. Kennedy. The law brought the top...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

You are going back to times when debt wasn’t out of control. You can do cuts then.

debt is debt.
and we didn't get to where we are today in the last 4 years

As stated in the OP it started with Reagan.

it started a hell of a long time before that.

or do you think nothing existed before 1980?

Reagan tripled the debt. It was quite low previously.

so what?

debt is debt now you're changing your tune

 

[Blues Man]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

When did this become the Rubber Room? I guess we can now just post any unhinged rant with no supporting links we want.

You are babbling. You can’t counter clearly. You are a trumper, you love debt.

Counter what? Your OP Brainfart with nothing to support it?

Trump has added record debt. You trumpers love debt.

so did Obama and more than Trump did

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Both parties, minus a handful of true patriots, are spending us into oblivion.
And blaming it on Reagan is hilarious. Every time you see a crime reported do they reference the first person to commit that crime in modern times?

This is the best post grampa troll has ever made.Blamingit all on Reagan is indeed hilarious in the fact that each president all the way up to Obama,they all expanded what Reagan got started.that’s why the lamestream media and our corrupt school system worship that asswipe traiter so much because he originated it all getting the ball rolling for the destruction of America that each president followed and expanded on.sense he was the grandfather of them all who got it started,the msm media worships him.the brainwashed sheep in America have fallen for the propaganda of Reagan as a great president hook,line,and sinker,

 

[Brain357]

Actually, it was Democrats who killed the 70 percent tax

The Reagan-era tax deal has some lessons to teach reformers like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

www.politico.com

Recalling the Days When Democrats Cut Taxes | RealClearPolitics

Fifty years ago last week, on Feb. 26, 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law the sweeping tax cuts that had been championed by his predecessor, John F. Kennedy. The law brought the top...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

You are going back to times when debt wasn’t out of control. You can do cuts then.

debt is debt.
and we didn't get to where we are today in the last 4 years

As stated in the OP it started with Reagan.

it started a hell of a long time before that.

or do you think nothing existed before 1980?

Reagan tripled the debt. It was quite low previously.

so what?

debt is debt now you're changing your tune

It’s a problem when it becomes large relative to gdp. Get a clue.

 

[Blues Man]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

no they wouldn't.

because it will never happen.

No politician will ever get elected if he says he's going to increase taxes to cover all spending.

what fantasy land do you call home?

That is the problem. And repubs are worse cause they cut taxes and increase spending.

Biden said he was increasing some taxes and was elected. It’s a start.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

Obama extended the Bush tax cuts and increased spending

Extending the cuts means the rate was not changed. Had they expired rates would have increased.

but you said he should have raised taxes to cover all the spending he initiated he didn't and he still doubled the debt

I’m not saying either party is good, just that repubs are worse. Trump quickly increased Obama deficits.

and Obama doubled the debt. Democrat senators and congress men voted for republican tax cuts too you know

you are saying that it's somehow worse to die from getting strangled than getting shot when you wind up dead either way.

what you want will never happen and no democrat will do it just as no republican will.

so when you buy your ticket back to reality let me know

And trump increased Obama deficits. Bad and worse.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

you need to do some homework

Republicans always start the cuts.

always?

JFK started cutting the top rate of the income tax

We didn’t have a debt problem then.

we didn't?

The debt has increased in every presidential administration since Coolidge

It was small relative to gdp.

so what" you said that debt is bad now you're changing your mind

just like I knew you would

It is bad when too high relative to gdp. Grow up.

that was not your position you changed it

 

[Blues Man]

Actually, it was Democrats who killed the 70 percent tax

The Reagan-era tax deal has some lessons to teach reformers like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

www.politico.com

Recalling the Days When Democrats Cut Taxes | RealClearPolitics

Fifty years ago last week, on Feb. 26, 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law the sweeping tax cuts that had been championed by his predecessor, John F. Kennedy. The law brought the top...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

You are going back to times when debt wasn’t out of control. You can do cuts then.

debt is debt.
and we didn't get to where we are today in the last 4 years

As stated in the OP it started with Reagan.

it started a hell of a long time before that.

or do you think nothing existed before 1980?

Reagan tripled the debt. It was quite low previously.

so what?

debt is debt now you're changing your tune

It’s a problem when it becomes large relative to gdp. Get a clue.

and yet you never mentioned that until you had to justify democrats cutting taxes and increasing the debt

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

When did this become the Rubber Room? I guess we can now just post any unhinged rant with no supporting links we want.

You are babbling. You can’t counter clearly. You are a trumper, you love debt.

Counter what? Your OP Brainfart with nothing to support it?

Trump has added record debt. You trumpers love debt.

so did Obama and more than Trump did

8 years vs 4. Obama inherited recession, Trump a strong economy. You seem lost...

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

both parties add to the debt

it's a nonexistent ethical stance to say that one party is better because they accumulated a little less debt than the other.

And as we all know ( well maybe you don't) democrats only care about debt when republicans are in office and vice versa

You nailed it.

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

no they wouldn't.

because it will never happen.

No politician will ever get elected if he says he's going to increase taxes to cover all spending.

what fantasy land do you call home?

That is the problem. And repubs are worse cause they cut taxes and increase spending.

Biden said he was increasing some taxes and was elected. It’s a start.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

Obama extended the Bush tax cuts and increased spending

Extending the cuts means the rate was not changed. Had they expired rates would have increased.

but you said he should have raised taxes to cover all the spending he initiated he didn't and he still doubled the debt

I’m not saying either party is good, just that repubs are worse. Trump quickly increased Obama deficits.

and Obama doubled the debt. Democrat senators and congress men voted for republican tax cuts too you know

you are saying that it's somehow worse to die from getting strangled than getting shot when you wind up dead either way.

what you want will never happen and no democrat will do it just as no republican will.

so when you buy your ticket back to reality let me know

And trump increased Obama deficits. Bad and worse.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

you need to do some homework

Republicans always start the cuts.

always?

JFK started cutting the top rate of the income tax

We didn’t have a debt problem then.

we didn't?

The debt has increased in every presidential administration since Coolidge

It was small relative to gdp.

so what" you said that debt is bad now you're changing your mind

just like I knew you would

It is bad when too high relative to gdp. Grow up.

that was not your position you changed it

False.

 

[Blues Man]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

When did this become the Rubber Room? I guess we can now just post any unhinged rant with no supporting links we want.

You are babbling. You can’t counter clearly. You are a trumper, you love debt.

Counter what? Your OP Brainfart with nothing to support it?

Trump has added record debt. You trumpers love debt.

so did Obama and more than Trump did

8 years vs 4. Obama inherited recession, Trump a strong economy. You seem lost...

so what?

the buck stops at the president's desk.

 

[Brain357]

Actually, it was Democrats who killed the 70 percent tax

The Reagan-era tax deal has some lessons to teach reformers like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

www.politico.com

Recalling the Days When Democrats Cut Taxes | RealClearPolitics

Fifty years ago last week, on Feb. 26, 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law the sweeping tax cuts that had been championed by his predecessor, John F. Kennedy. The law brought the top...

www.realclearpolitics.com

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You are going back to times when debt wasn’t out of control. You can do cuts then.

debt is debt.
and we didn't get to where we are today in the last 4 years

As stated in the OP it started with Reagan.

it started a hell of a long time before that.

or do you think nothing existed before 1980?

Reagan tripled the debt. It was quite low previously.

so what?

debt is debt now you're changing your tune

It’s a problem when it becomes large relative to gdp. Get a clue.

and yet you never mentioned that until you had to justify democrats cutting taxes and increasing the debt

They didn’t. Your false claims are getting old.