Republicans love the $17 trillion national debt

[The Rabbi]

The cons have been trying to destroy Social Security, Medicare, food stamps and healthcare since they were created. And now with the $17 trillion national debt that THEY created, the cons think they have justification to destroy those programs.

The last three republican presidents are responsible for over $12 trillion of the national debt, with tax welfare to millionaires and corporate business, and the Iraq/Afghan wars. THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT. The only way it's going to get paid off, is if those with the money pay it. But cons don't want it paid off, they just want to destroy those social programs.

Ronnie Raygun almost tripled the national debt in his eight years, building nuclear bombs and a STAR WARS fantasy.

Shrub daddy doubled it again in only four years, with the start of the Iraq war.

Clinton actually balanced the budget, which Shrub Jr. destroyed in his first six months.

And Shrub Jr. also doubled the national debt again, adding more than all presidents before him added together. AND he also destroyed not only the U.S. economy, but also the global economy. He left Obama with a $1.2 trillion annual deficit, which the cons try to blame Obama for.

Obama has cut that $1.2 trillion deficit in half in the last five years, while trying to bring this country out of the GREAT RECESSION Shrub Jr. left him with. All the while, the GOP has been obstructing all efforts to do so.

And now their solution is to fuck the elderly by destroying Social Security and Medicare, fucking the poor by destroying food stamps, taking food from the mouths of children, destroying unemployment benefits to workers that have lost their jobs because the cons have allowed corporations to send all the factory jobs to China.

The cons believe that throwing the elderly and the poor out in the street is going to make this country better. Like fifty million homeless it a good idea.

If you buy the con vision, you get what you deserve.

Here's a clue. We had a democrat congress until 94.

A Republican congress balanced the budget, Clinton got the credit. As he should.

Early in W's presidency an incident commonly referred to as 9/11 happened.

You may have heard about it.

W. allowed 9/11 to happen, then invaded Iraq, which had nothing to do with it. Try another excuse.

Obama failed in his reset with Russia. Obama failed in his stimulus. Obama is the most failed president in history.

 

[bripat9643]

Wbich president cut billions from Medicare?
Which party was in power when most of this spending took place?

Why don't you just go hang yourself and save everyone the trouble of refuting your stupid ignorant posts?

That would save me a lot of trouble.

 

[hangover]

The cons have been trying to destroy Social Security, Medicare, food stamps and healthcare since they were created. And now with the $17 trillion national debt that THEY created, the cons think they have justification to destroy those programs.

The last three republican presidents are responsible for over $12 trillion of the national debt, with tax welfare to millionaires and corporate business, and the Iraq/Afghan wars. THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT. The only way it's going to get paid off, is if those with the money pay it. But cons don't want it paid off, they just want to destroy those social programs.

Ronnie Raygun almost tripled the national debt in his eight years, building nuclear bombs and a STAR WARS fantasy.

Shrub daddy doubled it again in only four years, with the start of the Iraq war.

Clinton actually balanced the budget, which Shrub Jr. destroyed in his first six months.

And Shrub Jr. also doubled the national debt again, adding more than all presidents before him added together. AND he also destroyed not only the U.S. economy, but also the global economy. He left Obama with a $1.2 trillion annual deficit, which the cons try to blame Obama for.

Obama has cut that $1.2 trillion deficit in half in the last five years, while trying to bring this country out of the GREAT RECESSION Shrub Jr. left him with. All the while, the GOP has been obstructing all efforts to do so.

And now their solution is to fuck the elderly by destroying Social Security and Medicare, fucking the poor by destroying food stamps, taking food from the mouths of children, destroying unemployment benefits to workers that have lost their jobs because the cons have allowed corporations to send all the factory jobs to China.

The cons believe that throwing the elderly and the poor out in the street is going to make this country better. Like fifty million homeless it a good idea.

If you buy the con vision, you get what you deserve.

Bull effing shit!!

Bull shit is all you got, but it's not a viable rebuttal. If you've got anything to refute my OP please present it. But we all know you can't, hence your bull shit.

 

[hangover]

The Party with the majority in Congress has the the power of the purse. Sure, Revenue Bills must originate in the House Of Representatives, but in actuality, the Senate and the Executive Branch have control over the power of the purse right now. Over 150 Bills effecting Revenue Passed by the House Of Representatives sitting on 'dingy' Harry Reid's desk. Harry Reid is the power of the purse, that's filthy Harry.

Shrub Jr. had a republican Senate and House of Reps. when he was doubling the national debt, and destroying the economy.

You guys are such a broken record. You'll never let it go and move on to catch up with the times, will you? it's like a loser who can't get over a bad relationship.

Well that justifies your desire to fuck the elderly, the sick, the children, and the unemployed, at least in your mind.

 

[The Rabbi]

Shrub Jr. had a republican Senate and House of Reps. when he was doubling the national debt, and destroying the economy.

You guys are such a broken record. You'll never let it go and move on to catch up with the times, will you? it's like a loser who can't get over a bad relationship.

Well that justifies your desire to fuck the elderly, the sick, the children, and the unemployed, at least in your mind.

Actually it is Democrats that have done for years.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Hey people, we are $17 trillion in debt. That is a fact. The question is which ideology is best suited to get us out of said debt, conservatism or liberalism?

What needs to happen is all the big government politicians both R's and D's need to be removed and replaced with real fiscal conservatives. These so-called entitlement programs needs to be reformed if not abolished altogether.

Social issues has no place in federal government. Leave those issues to the states to deal with.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Shrub Jr. had a republican Senate and House of Reps. when he was doubling the national debt, and destroying the economy.

You guys are such a broken record. You'll never let it go and move on to catch up with the times, will you? it's like a loser who can't get over a bad relationship.

Well that justifies your desire to fuck the elderly, the sick, the children, and the unemployed, at least in your mind.

You're really slow, I see. That's pretty sad. You probably consider yourself rather intellectually inclined too.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Hey people, we are $17 trillion in debt. That is a fact. The question is which ideology is best suited to get us out of said debt, conservatism or liberalism?

What needs to happen is all the big government politicians both R's and D's need to be removed and replaced with real fiscal conservatives. These so-called entitlement programs needs to be reformed if not abolished altogether.

Social issues has no place in federal government. Leave those issues to the states to deal with.

Neither, obviously. They both saddled us with that debt.

 

[hangover]

The Party with the majority in Congress has the the power of the purse. Sure, Revenue Bills must originate in the House Of Representatives, but in actuality, the Senate and the Executive Branch have control over the power of the purse right now. Over 150 Bills effecting Revenue Passed by the House Of Representatives sitting on 'dingy' Harry Reid's desk. Harry Reid is the power of the purse, that's filthy Harry.

Shrub Jr. had a republican Senate and House of Reps. when he was doubling the national debt, and destroying the economy.

Bush's term added about $5T over 8 years.
Obama has added $7T in 5 years.
Your call.

What Obama has added is the result of cleaning up Shrub's destruction of the economy.

Amount Each President Added to the Debt per Fiscal Year Since 1960:

President Barack Obama: Added $5.081 trillion, a 44% increase to the $11.657 trillion debt level attributable to President Bush at the end of his last budget, FY 2009.

FY 2013 - $672 billion.
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
FY 2009 - $253 billion. (Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.)

President George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. (Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act).
FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.
FY 2007 - $501 billion.
FY 2006 - $574 billion.
FY 2005 - $554 billion.
FY 2004 - $596 billion.
FY 2003 - $555 billion.
FY 2002 - $421 billion.

President Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32% increase to the $4.4 trillion debt level at the end of Bush's last budget, FY 1993.

FY 2001 - $133 billion.
FY 2000 - $18 billion.
FY 1999 - $130 billion.
FY 1998 - $113 billion.
FY 1997 - $188 billion.
FY 1996 - $251 billion.
FY 1995 - $281 billion.
FY 1994 - $281 billion.

President George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54% increase to the $2.8 trillion debt level at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989.

FY 1993 - $347 billion.
FY 1992 - $399 billion.
FY 1991 - $432 billion.
FY 1990 - $376 billion.

President Ronald Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, 186% increase to the $998 billion debt level at the end of Carter's last budget, FY 1981.

FY 1989 - $255 billion.
FY 1988 - $252 billion.
FY 1987 - $225 billion.
FY 1986 - $297 billion.
FY 1985 - $256 billion.
FY 1984 - $195 billion.
FY 1983 - $235 billion.
FY 1982 - $144 billion.

President Jimmy Carter: Added $299 billion, a 43% increase to the $699 billion debt level at the end of Ford's last budget, FY 1977.

FY 1981 - $90 billion.
FY 1980 - $81 billion.
FY 1979 - $55 billion.
FY 1978 - $73 billion.

US Debt by President
This shows who the big spenders are.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Hey people, we are $17 trillion in debt. That is a fact. The question is which ideology is best suited to get us out of said debt, conservatism or liberalism?

What needs to happen is all the big government politicians both R's and D's need to be removed and replaced with real fiscal conservatives. These so-called entitlement programs needs to be reformed if not abolished altogether.

Social issues has no place in federal government. Leave those issues to the states to deal with.

Neither, obviously. They both saddled us with that debt.

True and that's because none of them were truly fiscal conservatives.

 

[Mr Natural]

Looks like St Reagan is the all time winner in the debt increasing contest.

 

[Harry Dresden]

This op is plagiarizing rdean material...

and it's just as nutty, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

the difference is Dean is at least who he says he is....Hungover is fucking phony....

 

[Harry Dresden]

They'll do whatever it take for the party...if it means lying, smears, etc anything goes in their book of dirty politics

for them, it's party over COUNTRY

sounds like both parties to me....

 

[Harry Dresden]

They'll do whatever it take for the party...if it means lying, smears, etc anything goes in their book of dirty politics

for them, it's party over COUNTRY

Both of the two parties do that. The problem with democrats vs. republicans is, you can be pretty certain what kind of fuck job you're getting with republicans. Democrats on the other hand LIE right to your face over and over and over and over and over again. Then once more.

Democrats tell you what you wanna hear.....when you leave the room is when the laughing starts....and you are right with Republicans....they tell you to your face your fucked...

 

[blackhawk]

What a beautiful display of far left talking points there distorted, twisted and totally misleading but a very nice presentation.

 

[nodoginnafight]

The cons have been trying to destroy Social Security, Medicare, food stamps and healthcare since they were created. And now with the $17 trillion national debt that THEY created, the cons think they have justification to destroy those programs.

The last three republican presidents are responsible for over $12 trillion of the national debt, with tax welfare to millionaires and corporate business, and the Iraq/Afghan wars. THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT. The only way it's going to get paid off, is if those with the money pay it. But cons don't want it paid off, they just want to destroy those social programs.

Ronnie Raygun almost tripled the national debt in his eight years, building nuclear bombs and a STAR WARS fantasy.

Shrub daddy doubled it again in only four years, with the start of the Iraq war.

Clinton actually balanced the budget, which Shrub Jr. destroyed in his first six months.

And Shrub Jr. also doubled the national debt again, adding more than all presidents before him added together. AND he also destroyed not only the U.S. economy, but also the global economy. He left Obama with a $1.2 trillion annual deficit, which the cons try to blame Obama for.

Obama has cut that $1.2 trillion deficit in half in the last five years, while trying to bring this country out of the GREAT RECESSION Shrub Jr. left him with. All the while, the GOP has been obstructing all efforts to do so.

And now their solution is to fuck the elderly by destroying Social Security and Medicare, fucking the poor by destroying food stamps, taking food from the mouths of children, destroying unemployment benefits to workers that have lost their jobs because the cons have allowed corporations to send all the factory jobs to China.

The cons believe that throwing the elderly and the poor out in the street is going to make this country better. Like fifty million homeless it a good idea.

If you buy the con vision, you get what you deserve.

Here's a clue. We had a democrat congress until 94.

A Republican congress balanced the budget, Clinton got the credit. As he should.

Early in W's presidency an incident commonly referred to as 9/11 happened.

You may have heard about it.

Clinton was and is a smart politician. He saw the writing on the wall and went along with the Republican congress. He even got points with his OWN side for mitigating some of the changes his side didn't like, i.e. welfare reform, while still passing it.

I agree Marty. I'm not a big Clinton fan at all, but he played the hand he was dealt very well. He was smart enough to recognize the political realities.

I wish today's GOP would copy some of that. Instead of drawing a big line in the sand and demanding all or nothing, I wish they would mitigate whenever they can. By not doing that, they've taken their platform completely off the table and the Democrats have gotten absolutely everything they want. Without any mitigation.

I don't like Clinton at all - but he was obviously a whole lot smarter politically than today's crop of Republicans.

 

[martybegan]

Here's a clue. We had a democrat congress until 94.

A Republican congress balanced the budget, Clinton got the credit. As he should.

Early in W's presidency an incident commonly referred to as 9/11 happened.

You may have heard about it.

Clinton was and is a smart politician. He saw the writing on the wall and went along with the Republican congress. He even got points with his OWN side for mitigating some of the changes his side didn't like, i.e. welfare reform, while still passing it.

I agree Marty. I'm not a big Clinton fan at all, but he played the hand he was dealt very well. He was smart enough to recognize the political realities.

I wish today's GOP would copy some of that. Instead of drawing a big line in the sand and demanding all or nothing, I wish they would mitigate whenever they can. By not doing that, they've taken their platform completely off the table and the Democrats have gotten absolutely everything they want. Without any mitigation.

I don't like Clinton at all - but he was obviously a whole lot smarter politically than today's crop of Republicans.

If the democrats had gotten everything they want, they would have single payer
If the democrats had gotten everything they want, the deficit would still be 1.5T
If the democrats had gotten everything they want, taxes would be up on EVERYONE.

The problem is current democrats want to go so far to the left, that a line in the sand HAS to be drawn.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Clinton was and is a smart politician. He saw the writing on the wall and went along with the Republican congress. He even got points with his OWN side for mitigating some of the changes his side didn't like, i.e. welfare reform, while still passing it.

I agree Marty. I'm not a big Clinton fan at all, but he played the hand he was dealt very well. He was smart enough to recognize the political realities.

I wish today's GOP would copy some of that. Instead of drawing a big line in the sand and demanding all or nothing, I wish they would mitigate whenever they can. By not doing that, they've taken their platform completely off the table and the Democrats have gotten absolutely everything they want. Without any mitigation.

I don't like Clinton at all - but he was obviously a whole lot smarter politically than today's crop of Republicans.

If the democrats had gotten everything they want, they would have single payer
If the democrats had gotten everything they want, the deficit would still be 1.5T
If the democrats had gotten everything they want, taxes would be up on EVERYONE.

The problem is current democrats want to go so far to the left, that a line in the sand HAS to be drawn.

I disagree with that part - but you are obviously entitled to your opinion.

But Republicans have accomplished NOTHING. They haven't slowed ANYTHING down, and they've been soundly defeated every time they've tried to force a showdown.

The evidence doesn't support the speculations on what might have been had the Republicans just stayed home for the past 5 years or so.

Just MHO

 

[hangover]

This op is plagiarizing rdean material...

and it's just as nutty, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

the difference is Dean is at least who he says he is....Hungover is fucking phony....

Cons have been thoroughly exposed, and all you got is "phony", as if that is going to change the facts. Go back to the playground, little boy.

 

[hangover]

Shrub Jr. had a republican Senate and House of Reps. when he was doubling the national debt, and destroying the economy.

Bush's term added about $5T over 8 years.
Obama has added $7T in 5 years.
Your call.

What Obama has added is the result of cleaning up Shrub's destruction of the economy.

Amount Each President Added to the Debt per Fiscal Year Since 1960:

President Barack Obama: Added $5.081 trillion, a 44% increase to the $11.657 trillion debt level attributable to President Bush at the end of his last budget, FY 2009.

FY 2013 - $672 billion.
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
FY 2009 - $253 billion. (Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.)

President George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. (Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act).
FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.
FY 2007 - $501 billion.
FY 2006 - $574 billion.
FY 2005 - $554 billion.
FY 2004 - $596 billion.
FY 2003 - $555 billion.
FY 2002 - $421 billion.

President Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32% increase to the $4.4 trillion debt level at the end of Bush's last budget, FY 1993.

FY 2001 - $133 billion.
FY 2000 - $18 billion.
FY 1999 - $130 billion.
FY 1998 - $113 billion.
FY 1997 - $188 billion.
FY 1996 - $251 billion.
FY 1995 - $281 billion.
FY 1994 - $281 billion.

President George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54% increase to the $2.8 trillion debt level at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989.

FY 1993 - $347 billion.
FY 1992 - $399 billion.
FY 1991 - $432 billion.
FY 1990 - $376 billion.

President Ronald Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, 186% increase to the $998 billion debt level at the end of Carter's last budget, FY 1981.

FY 1989 - $255 billion.
FY 1988 - $252 billion.
FY 1987 - $225 billion.
FY 1986 - $297 billion.
FY 1985 - $256 billion.
FY 1984 - $195 billion.
FY 1983 - $235 billion.
FY 1982 - $144 billion.

President Jimmy Carter: Added $299 billion, a 43% increase to the $699 billion debt level at the end of Ford's last budget, FY 1977.

FY 1981 - $90 billion.
FY 1980 - $81 billion.
FY 1979 - $55 billion.
FY 1978 - $73 billion.

US Debt by President
This shows who the big spenders are.

Cons are gagging on this.