Republicans taking Blame for Shutdown - Polls

[Plasmaball]

Cool......

That's all it's about, to Fuck with people on this staged planned out BS. Even though they could continue cooking the books until the 17th according to the Fed.

You know it's all a bunch of BS, but you have a part to play..............

Now go back to your WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE ROUTINE, and READ THE DAMN SCRIPT.

no, they did it to fuck with you. Just you.

Well wow..........I should be grateful to them.................

yes you should....and by thanking them you should shut down your computer and throw it in the trash.

 

[eagle1462010]

I'm so glad we have responsible Democrats running the show...............

Like this guy...........Your side elects the best...........We should listen to them...........

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q]Guam will Capsize and Tip Over into the ocean Hank Johnson - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eagle1462010]

no, they did it to fuck with you. Just you.

Well wow..........I should be grateful to them.................

yes you should....and by thanking them you should shut down your computer and throw it in the trash.

Isn't it just like a Lib to tell others what to do. What to eat. And force a BS law down our throats and say it's for our own good.

We are here from the Gov't, and are here to Help.

Like the IRS attacking those who don't believe as you do. Sounds like Gov't Terrorism to me................But it's Ok when you do it.

Or like putting our personal records on a Federal Database for our own good, and you don't say a Fucking Word.

Your an IDIOT.

 

[Londoner]

The John Birch Society - a home to radical racists; precursor to the Tea Party - predicted that Medicare would turn America into a socialist dystopia.

Fast forward 30 years.

The Republican Party cannot win an election without promising Florida Republican seniors that Medicare will not be touched.

"Get your government hands off my medicare"

The Republicans need to kill ObamaCare before the benefits reach the people. They must stop government from helping people. Government can only help the corporations that own it.

 

[eagle1462010]

The John Birch Society - a home to radical racists; precursor to the Tea Party - predicted that Medicare would turn America into a socialist dystopia.

Fast forward 30 years.

The Republican Party cannot win an election without promising Florida Republican seniors that Medicare will not be touched.

"Get your government hands off my medicare"

The Republicans need to kill ObamaCare before the benefits reach the people. They must stop government from helping people. Government can only help the corporations that own it.

As you ignore the consequences of this law.............

History will remember this time as Part Time America...............

Your side OWNS IT.

 

[SuMar]

Republicans blackmailing? Obama is the one crying threatening to shut down the government and take his ball home...

 

[PMZ]

Conservatives believe that they're making progress in destroying America by eliminating government. The truth is that the are destroying conservatism. And saving America.

 

[Faun]

Republicans blackmailing? Obama is the one crying threatening to shut down the government and take his ball home...

Oh? No bill ever made it to his desk. How do you figure he's the one threatening to shut the government down?

 

[Faun]

Your an IDIOT.

Sometimes irony is just ... ironic.

 

[The Rabbi]

Republicans blackmailing? Obama is the one crying threatening to shut down the government and take his ball home...

Oh? No bill ever made it to his desk. How do you figure he's the one threatening to shut the government down?

He said he would veto any bill from the House that didnt follow his script. Isn't that threatening? Or do you speak a different language from the rest of us?

 

[The Rabbi]

Conservatives believe that they're making progress in destroying America by eliminating government. The truth is that the are destroying conservatism. And saving America.

So you support the GOP's position, right?

 

[theHawk]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/09/11/rel8g.pdf

Question 13
If the federal government shuts down, do you
think that Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress
would be more responsible for that?

Obama 33%
Republicans 51%
Both 12%
Neither 3%
No opinion 1%

CNN Poll: Who would get blamed for government shutdown? ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

If the government shuts down, the Republicans in Congress may take more of the blame: 44 percent of Americans say they would blame the Republicans in Congress more if there is a partial shutdown of the federal government on Oct. 1, while fewer - 35 percent - would put more of the blame on Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress. Sixteen percent volunteer that they would blame both sides equally.

Poll Results - Bloomberg

Blame Democrats - 39%
Blame GOP - 45%

Every Poll I'm seeing places the blame on this retarded shutdown on the GOP...and rightfully so. Pushing your own personal agenda through a blackmail threat since you don't have the votes otherwise is truly evil.

You seem to be assuming that the American public thinks shutting the government down is a bad thing.

Quite an assumption there.

 

[The Rabbi]

Notice the gap between those blaming the Dems and the those blaming the GOP isn't very much, 10 points maybe. This is despite all the media hype. This will not play out well for the Dems.

 

[MeBelle]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/09/11/rel8g.pdf

Question 13
If the federal government shuts down, do you
think that Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress
would be more responsible for that?

Obama 33%
Republicans 51%
Both 12%
Neither 3%
No opinion 1%

Every Poll I'm seeing places the blame on this retarded shutdown on the GOP...and rightfully so. Pushing your own personal agenda through a blackmail threat since you don't have the votes otherwise is truly evil.

Question 13 seems to have left out the MAJORITY party.

Why is that?

 

[theHawk]

The John Birch Society - a home to radical racists; precursor to the Tea Party - predicted that Medicare would turn America into a socialist dystopia.

Fast forward 30 years.

Yea, fast forward (40 years). America has been turned into a socialist state. Medicare and Medicaid weren't enough, and the socialists are now getting more (Obamacare).

This is exactly how socialism works, get the foot in the door, and pretty soon more people are dependant on it and want more.

More, more, more. Greedy socialist pigs.

 

[eagle1462010]

Debt-ceiling doomsday comes Oct. 17. Here?s what happens next.

We have a new date for the debt-ceiling limit. According to Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, doomsday will begin on Oct. 17.

That's according to a new letter Lew sent to House Speaker John Boehner. By Oct. 17, the Treasury Department will have exhausted all its options and will no longer have enough money on hand to meet all of its coming financial obligations. Either Congress lifts the debt ceiling then or... the federal government will have to default on some of its bills.
"We estimate that, at [Oct. 17], Treasury would have only approximately $30 billion to meet our country's commitments," Lew wrote. "This amount would be far short of net expenditures on certain days, which can be as high as $60 billion."
At the moment, default is a distinct possibility. House Republicans have argued that any hike of the debt ceiling should include certain conditions attached, such as a one-year delay of Obamacare's individual mandate. The White House sharply opposes attaching any conditions to a hike and has said it won't negotiate on this matter.

 

[Interpol]

It's been 3 years now that the Republicans have been wanting to do this, and now they finally have their wish.

You can find all their speeches and quotes over the last 3 years, salivating over this moment. From Lynn Westmoreland to Ted Cruz to Rand Paul to Louis Gohmert.

These false prophets think what they're doing is patriotic.

They show contempt for our system of governance and contempt for a general election result in which they lost seats in last year to the Democrats, who took over 1 million more votes in House races than Republicans did, who have gerrymandered this country so that our government doesn't reflect the true will of the people, who wish to see our government open, not closed.

Republicans drank all through the weekend as if to celebrate. That makes me practically throw up in my mouth a little, the idea that they would shut everything down because they don't like the idea that a grown adult in America can wake up as of today and going forward in the coming weeks can finally get health insurance even if they have a pre-existing condition.

Why Republicans resent the idea of grown adults taking individual responsibility for themselves by opting into healthcare exchanges that will help reduce costs for all of us is just more "blacktracking" by Republicans, who only hate the Obama part of Obamacare, a law they would have cheerfully voted for had a Republican President been in charge and not a black, progressive Democrat.

I no longer recognize the Republican party. They used to be a party of respectable gentlemen with can-do attitudes. Now, they're a bunch of cry-babies shutting down the government because they hate Obama and refuse to accept last year's election results.

 

[theHawk]

Funny how 54% of people disagree with Obama on the issues, yet we're told that everyone hates the GOP.

"President Obama's strong suit remains his personal qualities, with a 51% majority still saying that he has the personality and leadership qualities a president should have, although that number is down six points from our last survey," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "But only 42% say that he agrees with them on issues that matter most, while 54% say they disagree with him on issues."

Congress, tea party hit all-time low in CNN polling - CNN.com

Conservatives aren't happy with the GOP which is why their numbers are lower than Dems. Dems stick together..........support Dear Leader no matter what.

 

[eagle1462010]

It's been 3 years now that the Republicans have been wanting to do this, and now they finally have their wish.

You can find all their speeches and quotes over the last 3 years, salivating over this moment. From Lynn Westmoreland to Ted Cruz to Rand Paul to Louis Gohmert.

These false prophets think what they're doing is patriotic.

They show contempt for our system of governance and contempt for a general election result in which they lost seats in last year to the Democrats, who took over 1 million more votes in House races than Republicans did, who have gerrymandered this country so that our government doesn't reflect the true will of the people, who wish to see our government open, not closed.

Republicans drank all through the weekend as if to celebrate. That makes me practically throw up in my mouth a little, the idea that they would shut everything down because they don't like the idea that a grown adult in America can wake up as of today and going forward in the coming weeks can finally get health insurance even if they have a pre-existing condition.

Why Republicans resent the idea of grown adults taking individual responsibility for themselves by opting into healthcare exchanges that will help reduce costs for all of us is just more "blacktracking" by Republicans, who only hate the Obama part of Obamacare, a law they would have cheerfully voted for had a Republican President been in charge and not a black, progressive Democrat.

I no longer recognize the Republican party. They used to be a party of respectable gentlemen with can-do attitudes. Now, they're a bunch of cry-babies shutting down the government because they hate Obama and refuse to accept last year's election results.

Passed through a temporary Majority, and you lost the house primarily due to Obamacare.

I've got news for you buddy, Our economy stinks. We are still a couple of million jobs short of the labor force in 2007, and this after the Gov't has funneled nearly 2 trillion into the system. Only a completely inept Gov't could spend so much and accomplish so little.

Finally, on the labor figures most of the gains are part time. And now a large segment of business is reducing hours to part time to avoid the penalties of the mandate.

The Dems recognized it, so they suspended it for a year until after the mid term elections hoping to stop the rising tide of full time employees going part time.

All of this due to Obamacare and the Stupid way it was written.

Finally, the Upper middle class those outside the subsidy areas are getting slammed by increases to their Health premiums BY DESIGN hurting their financial situation. But you assholes don't care about them. As many lose their coverage because they can't afford it. Yet you keep reporting the lowered costs in the FPL areas saying it's successful. Of course they are lowered as a matter of law. They are lower because they are subsidized at the expense of others.

aka You damage hard working Americans to benefit the lower wage earners in another Welfare Program. Your side PURPOSELY LIED on how much it would cost the Fed by Cherry picking data on passage. And now the price tag has doubled. Furthering our debt problem.

Finally, as I've been saying, and shown again in the article posted. The Treasury has been cooking the books since May. They openly admit it. Which is why the debate is for SO MUCH MORE MONEY FOR 2 MONTHS OF FUNDING.

The GOP offered a 988 bILLION DEAL, AND THE DEMS wanted over a Trillion. These funds for 2 months. Expected revenues of 400 Billion in the time frame, meaning the debt will increase by roughly 600 Billion in 2 months.

So we get another show down in December............

Again, why the delay when this should have occurred this summer................

And why cook the books since May...............

 

[Faun]

Republicans blackmailing? Obama is the one crying threatening to shut down the government and take his ball home...

Oh? No bill ever made it to his desk. How do you figure he's the one threatening to shut the government down?

He said he would veto any bill from the House that didnt follow his script. Isn't that threatening? Or do you speak a different language from the rest of us?

No bill made it to his desk. Take a course in civics if you don't understand that means Obama is not responsible for this shutdown which means he's neither in a positition to threaten anyone nor take his ball home.