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/----/ NEWS FLASH: You pathetic insults aren't changing anyone's mind.
/----/ NEWS FLASH: You pathetic insults aren't changing anyone's mind.
/----/ "“saving baby fetus cult”"cllblk.23.09.08
#10,781
I realize that minds that give sway to white Christian nationalism and nourished with the false doctrines of the “saving baby fetus cult” have those beliefs engraved in stoned ignorance. Those minds will not change.
But as McKay Coppins writes at The Atlantic, "most white conservative Christians don't want piety from this president; they want power." In particular, they want the power of his judicial appointments, with the goal of overturning Roe v. Wade, writing their minority views into law for generations to come, even as their share of the population (though not the electorate) plummets.But somehow the population in general and the younger minds coming up behind the madness of Trumpism and the overturning of Roe versus Wade I am seeing rational minds prevail, over irrational, ignorance, and heartless hatred for secular multicultural American society.
Are the job decision achieved? What I know I personally couldn’t achieve before. The “saving baby fetus cult“ has been exposed forward to use a religious fanaticism as a means to achieving authoritarian religious rule in America. We are not having it.
nf.23.09.08 #10,782
----/ "“saving baby fetus cult”"
More of your childish insults. We could call yours a “killing baby cult,” but then we'd have to stoop
Why?Dobbs was a good decision because roe should have never happened. It was never the federal governments business to get involved.
Scotus said that women had a right to privacy and the left took that to mean that abortion was a constitutional right.
That should have always been a state decision.
Legal semantics may suggest straight forward deductions , but necessarily straight forward conclusions .Tenth Amendment
www.law.cornell.edu
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
That seems pretty straightforward to me.
Is it true that https://truthsocial.com/realdonaldtrump dissociated it from https://twitter.com/sbaprolife/ , though this moniker has had to berate https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr periodically for its clueless blather about abortion .And these irrational mostly white Christian people want Trump to end the democracy that rational theists (Washington, Adams Jefferson Madison Paine and Franklin ) bequeathed to a hopefully educated and rational people.
nf.23.09.06
It is not in the general nature for a would be mother to seek a 15 week abortion without cause , meaning that abortions in the second and third trimesters are not sought because the would be mother simply no longer wishes to continue a pregnancy to term , even through the pregnancy is without developmental anomalies .cllblck.23.09.08
#10,783
But you would be lying about us. WHEN AN expectant mother stops gestating a fetus prior to 16 weeks because that medical procedure does not kill a baby. And if 15 weeks is the acceptable time frame for legal abortion then the joke is on the ‘saving baby fetus cult’ after all. If we are baby killers then most Republicans are baby killers as well.
nf.23.09.08 #10,784
The constitutional basis for public policy on abortion is not " When does life begin ? " , rather the constitutional basis for public policy on abortion is " When does a state interest begin ? " .
Dobbs was a good decision because roe should have never happened.
/----/ "Medical procedures are private matters, are they not? Why is abortion different?"mnkvyv.23.08.08
#10,786
Answer to when does a state interest begin is when public safety is in involved as if the medical procedure causes undue and unreasonable harm to a patient - so NEVER.
thssm.08.08.21
#10,452
Medical procedures are private matters, are they not? Why is abortion different?
I have never been in favor of abortion in my personal relationships and I’ve made sure I will never ever be responsible for an unwanted pregnancy; but I accept that the state does not have and should not aspire to have the right to inflict childbirth on a woman who does not want to give birth a child.
Abortions are legal and being protected in rationally governed states where they are safe, sanitary and unstigmatizing, States must be returned to bring united on safe legal and “early” as Sean Hannity now says.
The moral dilemma over when the unborn attain the rights of a person that supersede the rights of a woman over her own physical person is not resolved by biological or political science and should never be forced by a tyranny of a religious majority on a woman to grant her fetus an immediate right to life beginning at conception.
RvW produced a common sense morally acceptable compromise on that moral dilemma that stood for fifty years.
It should never have been torn down by the “Saving Baby Fetus Cult” because without detectable exception all elective abortions take place prior to the 16th week of pregnancy.
And those with a religious belief that the sanctity of life begins at conception are at liberty to take their conceptions to full term
If they do choose.
nf.23.09.08
#10,789
Who asks the baby what he or she wants?
"Hey kid, - you wanna live or you wanna die?
/---/ You gonna say that every pregnant woman can only have a Fetus Shower?cllblck.23.08.08
#10,790
There is no baby to ask. An underdeveloped fetus has no brain and no consciousness so it cannot answer the question you ask, So
If you ask the mother she has the only right to decide, So what is your point?
One of five conceptions is spontaneously aborted in a miscarriage:
A miscarriage is the unplanned loss of a pregnancy before the 20th week of pregnancy. At least 10 to 15% of all known pregnancies end in miscarriage, but experts say the actual rate of miscarriage is probably greater because some miscarriages occur before women even realize they are pregnant.So there could be up to half of all human fertilizations that end up in spontaneous abortion known as miscarriage.
Are you going to ask each one if they want to live or die
They are fetuses, not babies.
The mother is more important than the fetus.
The mother and her doctor are the one to decide.
Said no person EVER who did not intend to KILL that baby.
Is it unlawful or any of your business if a woman who wants not to be pregnant refers to the living human organism that has no brain as “baby” or as a “fetus” if she decides to kill it before the organism has its own brain?
You gonna say that every pregnant woman can only have a Fetus Shower?
Any perceived offenses against a zygote , an embryo , or a fetus , are in fact offenses against the mother .mnkvyv.23.08.08
#10,786
Answer to when does a state interest begin is when public safety is in involved as if the medical procedure causes undue and unreasonable harm to a patient - so NEVER.
An onset for a physical capacity for sentience is necessary for cognitive objection , whereby a conjecture to address a mind of a fetus - with a question about its own survival , could be expected to illicit an answer ./----/ "Medical procedures are private matters, are they not? Why is abortion different?"
Who asks the baby what he or she wants?
"Hey kid, - you wanna live or you wanna die?
Look at the moron trying to justify killing unborn children. Enjoy your eternity in hell. Your laziness does not rub off onto the general population.
Please justify whether " without cause " and " with cause " abortions would be relevant , as part of yearn considerations about their occurrence for first , second and third trimester abortions .Look at the moron trying to justify killing unborn children. Enjoy your eternity in hell. Your laziness does not rub off onto the general population.
Nope. Mom's decision, not yours, not ever.<CUT> Any perceived offenses against a zygote , an embryo , or a fetus , are in fact offenses against the mother .
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Nope. Mom's decision, not yours, not ever.
The only way they change minds is through force... Why do they always target government whether it's with a soft coup or with a hard coup ? Because that's where their power has laid since the 1960s. They've become very aware and astute as to what government (especially a corrupt controlled government), can do for them./----/ NEWS FLASH: You pathetic insults aren't changing anyone's mind.