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That was when Bill Clinton was President and Tom Daschle was Senate minority leader. Obama and Reid are not Clinton and Daschle. Obama will not play ball. He does not believe in compromise. Reid is ineffective and partisan.Spending explodes whenever 1 party owns both Congress and presidency.Don't you think the GOP could get some victories if it didn't act like two different, warring parties? They can't even cooperate with each other, let alone the Democrats.I disagree in general. Absolutists will not achieve anything but we are also not getting 'incremental' victories. We are not getting victories at all.Limbaugh and the other media division pimps need to keep their listeners angry and animated.
This absolutist shit from them really hasn't helped anything.
You want better Congressional outcomes? Get more absolutists elected. Until then, that's the way it goes. You'll have to deal with the adults who understand that (a) cooperation is not capitulation, and (b) incremental victories would be better than none.
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So where's the middle ground at????
The Republicans promised us change if they got leadership of the Congress. We gave it to them. When that didn't work, they said they were held hostage by the Senate, and they need leadership of that too. We gave it to them. That didn't work, so now they are telling us they need the White House on top of everything else.
Look: when Democrats have leadership, we have to do things the Democrat way. When Republicans have leadership, we have to do things the Democrat way. What's the point of even trying if Democrats get their way no matter who's in charge?
I didn't elect GOP leadership to look good. I didn't hire GOP leadership so they can solely focus on reelections. I hired them to do a job, and they're not doing it.
didnt spending explode when reps had congress and president?
However spending exploded under Reagan when Dems dominated Congress!!
The best mixture seems to be dem president, mixed--rep majority Senate, Republican dominated House. But the Republicans are refusing to do their jobs now and letting Dems run wild like teenagers on Spring Break.
They must not realize they will get fired if they do not hold to conservative principles? They do?
Now you understand Democratic optimism--"Do-nothing" Republican politicians need a spanking.
Conservatives even lie about themselves, most on the right are pathological.Not even close to true. The Republicans have the House. They have a small majority in the Senate, hence subject to filibuster. The Democrats have the Presidency.What a bunch of whiny bastards. There is political stalemate. Expect the budget to continue the status quo. Get out and vote and see where the chips fall for 2017.
The ruse is up. There is only one party.
Fuck them all.
Now, there is a major election in 1 year. The balance of power will change. There will be a chance to make big changes to public policy then.
Have the debate. Get it settled in the election.
Now is not the time to expect a revolutionary budget favoring one side's policies, when nobody knows what the outcome of the election will be.
The GOP has the House? What the hell for? What have they done other than play with themselves?
they have done plenty!! they funded amnesty, funded sanctuary cities and funded planned parenthood. reps favor chopping up babies!!
Wars started by Republicans.The vast majority of our country's debt/Unfunded liabilities is from our socialist entitlement programs, nothing else even comes close...The debt has only went up... Poach all RinosSounds like you're into self defeating prophecies. "We're doomed, oh no", when the deficit has been cut by 70% since 2009, largely through the efforts of the men you hate the most (Republican leadership), and you are in position to have a truly historic election victory. But, no. It' s wah wah I can't get 100% of what I want right now, so I'm taking my ball and going homeSpending has been reduced? By how much, a buck 50?
Besides, I thought deficits don't matter, like Dick Cheney once said.
America has chosen its path. Higher taxation and spending, lower wages, a dwindling quality of life.
Soon we will all be speaking Arabic/Spanish.
And to think, the demise of the GOP would happen during a period of time with the worst democrat President in US history is in office.
Bunch of loser crybabies, but you know better! I have no pity for you!
Buck up and win the election, quit crying.
why do you want to cut areas that aren't causing the debt? Go after areas that are...tax cuts, wars, and work to repair our healthcare system.
If not then you're not a serious party.
Not addressing these = no seriousness at all
Our debt comes from not paying for wars.
What a load of crap. You guys are petulant children with a craving for instant gratification due to the 24 hour news cycle. That's the only explanation.I hear what he's saying. And it's already happening. Paul Ryan just opened the floodgates for a mass exodus. Many Republicans now realize it's a One Party-Rule scam. They're exiting the Party in droves. Ryan just handed the White House to the Democrats.
Ryan's just a Big Government Globalist Democrat posing as a Republican. The NWO Globalist Elites finally pulled off their Coup d'etat here in America. They have complete control now. What are Americans gonna do about that? Stay tuned...
Paul Ryan is a conservative. And if you make the case for yourself well enough, and win the presidency, you are going to be able to make big changes in America.
You are at the cusp and you are about to throw it away all because you couldn't get what you wanted early enough.
Got any links to what's actually in the thing.? I see McConnell got welfare for owners of race horses, and welfare for NASCAR tracks is in there too, and I suppose that was a gop "idea."
I haven't seen exactly what the new spending is for. Probably military for McCain and domestic stuff for the dems. Though bringing back Pell grants is not necessarily bad, but people should have to actually succeed in passing at least 24 semester hours a year to get one the next year.
Do you think a government shutdown would have helped conservatives win the presidency?Got any links to what's actually in the thing.? I see McConnell got welfare for owners of race horses, and welfare for NASCAR tracks is in there too, and I suppose that was a gop "idea."
I haven't seen exactly what the new spending is for. Probably military for McCain and domestic stuff for the dems. Though bringing back Pell grants is not necessarily bad, but people should have to actually succeed in passing at least 24 semester hours a year to get one the next year.
Yeah, the Coprorate Welfare stuff is especially sickening. They have no shame. The mass exodus from the Republican Party has begun. Many are now aware that it's One Party-Rule.
Many won't be showing up on Election Day to support the Republican Candidate. Ryan handed the White House to the Democrats. It's very sad. Dark times for sure.
The corp welfare is disgusting. I am not sure more defense spending is a bad idea .... but it could be paid for painlessly b cutting, rather than increasing, corp welfare. Like I said, I'm fine with aid to students ... providing they actually pass the classes, and many do not, but rather just max out the loans while not working and then default, because they don't care about their credit ratings. I don't know what else in in there. Most likely dem giveaways to people not working.Got any links to what's actually in the thing.? I see McConnell got welfare for owners of race horses, and welfare for NASCAR tracks is in there too, and I suppose that was a gop "idea."
I haven't seen exactly what the new spending is for. Probably military for McCain and domestic stuff for the dems. Though bringing back Pell grants is not necessarily bad, but people should have to actually succeed in passing at least 24 semester hours a year to get one the next year.
Yeah, the Coprorate Welfare stuff is especially sickening. They have no shame. The mass exodus from the Republican Party has begun. Many are now aware that it's One Party-Rule.
Many won't be showing up on Election Day to support the Republican Candidate. Ryan handed the White House to the Democrats. It's very sad. Dark times for sure.
Yes. If the GD teaparty would actually pay for defense, and the GD gop would stand up to welfare to corps and deadbeats.Do you think a government shutdown would have helped conservatives win the presidency?Got any links to what's actually in the thing.? I see McConnell got welfare for owners of race horses, and welfare for NASCAR tracks is in there too, and I suppose that was a gop "idea."
I haven't seen exactly what the new spending is for. Probably military for McCain and domestic stuff for the dems. Though bringing back Pell grants is not necessarily bad, but people should have to actually succeed in passing at least 24 semester hours a year to get one the next year.
Yeah, the Coprorate Welfare stuff is especially sickening. They have no shame. The mass exodus from the Republican Party has begun. Many are now aware that it's One Party-Rule.
Many won't be showing up on Election Day to support the Republican Candidate. Ryan handed the White House to the Democrats. It's very sad. Dark times for sure.
Obama would likely not cave for months, if not longer. What would a months long shutdown do for the economy? Obama isn't up for re-election. Clinton could say she had nothing to do with the shutdown and she urged Obama to cave but he refused.Yes. If the GD teaparty would actually pay for defense, and the GD gop would stand up to welfare to corps and deadbeats.Do you think a government shutdown would have helped conservatives win the presidency?Got any links to what's actually in the thing.? I see McConnell got welfare for owners of race horses, and welfare for NASCAR tracks is in there too, and I suppose that was a gop "idea."
I haven't seen exactly what the new spending is for. Probably military for McCain and domestic stuff for the dems. Though bringing back Pell grants is not necessarily bad, but people should have to actually succeed in passing at least 24 semester hours a year to get one the next year.
Yeah, the Coprorate Welfare stuff is especially sickening. They have no shame. The mass exodus from the Republican Party has begun. Many are now aware that it's One Party-Rule.
Many won't be showing up on Election Day to support the Republican Candidate. Ryan handed the White House to the Democrats. It's very sad. Dark times for sure.
Ah, well the gop's problem has always been the House Tea Partiers. If we shut down the govt for principled reasons, like paying for truly necessary defense w/o caving for welfare for lazy people, but instead we shut down the gummit to derail Obamacare because we don't have an alternative policy.Obama would likely not cave for months, if not longer. What would a months long shutdown do for the economy? Obama isn't up for re-election. Clinton could say she had nothing to do with the shutdown and she urged Obama to cave but he refused.Yes. If the GD teaparty would actually pay for defense, and the GD gop would stand up to welfare to corps and deadbeats.Do you think a government shutdown would have helped conservatives win the presidency?Got any links to what's actually in the thing.? I see McConnell got welfare for owners of race horses, and welfare for NASCAR tracks is in there too, and I suppose that was a gop "idea."
I haven't seen exactly what the new spending is for. Probably military for McCain and domestic stuff for the dems. Though bringing back Pell grants is not necessarily bad, but people should have to actually succeed in passing at least 24 semester hours a year to get one the next year.
Yeah, the Coprorate Welfare stuff is especially sickening. They have no shame. The mass exodus from the Republican Party has begun. Many are now aware that it's One Party-Rule.
Many won't be showing up on Election Day to support the Republican Candidate. Ryan handed the White House to the Democrats. It's very sad. Dark times for sure.
Wars started by Republicans.The vast majority of our country's debt/Unfunded liabilities is from our socialist entitlement programs, nothing else even comes close...The debt has only went up... Poach all RinosSounds like you're into self defeating prophecies. "We're doomed, oh no", when the deficit has been cut by 70% since 2009, largely through the efforts of the men you hate the most (Republican leadership), and you are in position to have a truly historic election victory. But, no. It' s wah wah I can't get 100% of what I want right now, so I'm taking my ball and going home
Bunch of loser crybabies, but you know better! I have no pity for you!
Buck up and win the election, quit crying.
why do you want to cut areas that aren't causing the debt? Go after areas that are...tax cuts, wars, and work to repair our healthcare system.
If not then you're not a serious party.
Not addressing these = no seriousness at all
Our debt comes from not paying for wars.
Well, that didn't take long, Porky just admitted he would vote for ANY Republican nominated, so when the GOP Establishment get their nominee, Fatso will carry their water.Your GOP "water boy" MessiahRushie will support whatever ESTABLISHMENT candidate the GOP puts up in the 2016 election.
DON'T DOUBT ME!
Na, Not really...The vast majority of our country's debt/Unfunded liabilities is from our socialist entitlement programs, nothing else even comes close...The debt has only went up... Poach all Rinos
why do you want to cut areas that aren't causing the debt? Go after areas that are...tax cuts, wars, and work to repair our healthcare system.
If not then you're not a serious party.
Not addressing these = no seriousness at all
Our debt comes from not paying for wars.
That's cute. All of Social Security and 60% of Medicare are funded by a dedicated tax, the payroll tax.
Start over.
All a small amount compared to what the federal government wastes on frivolous socialist entitlement programs.... Every dayThe vast majority of our country's debt/Unfunded liabilities is from our socialist entitlement programs, nothing else even comes close...The debt has only went up... Poach all Rinos
why do you want to cut areas that aren't causing the debt? Go after areas that are...tax cuts, wars, and work to repair our healthcare system.
If not then you're not a serious party.
Not addressing these = no seriousness at all
Our debt comes from not paying for wars.
No, our debt comes from entitlement programs designed to keep the sheeple (you) quiet so that the elite can pass the laws they want to control every aspect of your life.
Reagan escalated the Cold War and didn't pay for it.
Bush Sr. invaded Iraq and didn't pay for it.
Bush Jr. got us into TWO wars and didn't pay for them.
Every war prior to that was paid for all or mostly by tax increases. That is how you keep your budgets in line.
Pay for your wars.
Well, the only answer can be to get more people you like, elected. The questions would then be (a) can you actually get them elected, and (b) would they be so conservative that they couldn't keep more moderate Republicans on their side in votes.I didn't elect GOP leadership to look good. I didn't hire GOP leadership so they can solely focus on reelections. I hired them to do a job, and they're not doing it.
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Don't you think the GOP could get some victories if it didn't act like two different, warring parties? They can't even cooperate with each other, let alone the Democrats.I disagree in general. Absolutists will not achieve anything but we are also not getting 'incremental' victories. We are not getting victories at all.Limbaugh and the other media division pimps need to keep their listeners angry and animated.
This absolutist shit from them really hasn't helped anything.
You want better Congressional outcomes? Get more absolutists elected. Until then, that's the way it goes. You'll have to deal with the adults who understand that (a) cooperation is not capitulation, and (b) incremental victories would be better than none.
.
.
So where's the middle ground at????
The Republicans promised us change if they got leadership of the Congress. We gave it to them. When that didn't work, they said they were held hostage by the Senate, and they need leadership of that too. We gave it to them. That didn't work, so now they are telling us they need the White House on top of everything else.
Look: when Democrats have leadership, we have to do things the Democrat way. When Republicans have leadership, we have to do things the Democrat way. What's the point of even trying if Democrats get their way no matter who's in charge?
I didn't elect GOP leadership to look good. I didn't hire GOP leadership so they can solely focus on reelections. I hired them to do a job, and they're not doing it.
didnt spending explode when reps had congress and president?
How did the Democrats get the stimulus and Obamacare? By having the Presidency, the House, and a supermajority in the Senate. Once they lost the supermajority by one vote, they had to use reconciliation to get the done deal Obamacare actually through.Don't you think the GOP could get some victories if it didn't act like two different, warring parties? They can't even cooperate with each other, let alone the Democrats.I disagree in general. Absolutists will not achieve anything but we are also not getting 'incremental' victories. We are not getting victories at all.Limbaugh and the other media division pimps need to keep their listeners angry and animated.
This absolutist shit from them really hasn't helped anything.
You want better Congressional outcomes? Get more absolutists elected. Until then, that's the way it goes. You'll have to deal with the adults who understand that (a) cooperation is not capitulation, and (b) incremental victories would be better than none.
.
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So where's the middle ground at????
The Republicans promised us change if they got leadership of the Congress. We gave it to them. When that didn't work, they said they were held hostage by the Senate, and they need leadership of that too. We gave it to them. That didn't work, so now they are telling us they need the White House on top of everything else.
Look: when Democrats have leadership, we have to do things the Democrat way. When Republicans have leadership, we have to do things the Democrat way. What's the point of even trying if Democrats get their way no matter who's in charge?
I didn't elect GOP leadership to look good. I didn't hire GOP leadership so they can solely focus on reelections. I hired them to do a job, and they're not doing it.
That's how it works. But you want to pass conservative reforms that are as big a deal as Obamacare (such as doing away with Obamacare) with much less power than what Democrats had. And when you don't get it, you get angry at your own party leaders and you oust them.
That is insanity. But go ahead. Be insane. See if you get different results.
