The Great Goose
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He's lying!
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The debt has only went up... Poach all RinosSounds like you're into self defeating prophecies. "We're doomed, oh no", when the deficit has been cut by 70% since 2009, largely through the efforts of the men you hate the most (Republican leadership), and you are in position to have a truly historic election victory. But, no. It' s wah wah I can't get 100% of what I want right now, so I'm taking my ball and going homeSpending has been reduced. It will be reduced further. Conservatives don't have the votes to force their agenda on the people. Republicans know the prolonged shutdown that would occur if conservatives tried to force their agenda would be blamed on Republicans, and they would lose the election (the previous shutdown was not long enough to have an effect on a 2014 election cycle that through gerrymandering and the number of Dem vs Rep Senate seats up for grabs favored Reps).It's a money game and corporate backers of either party don't want a reduction of the money being spent by Washington.
Push for your agenda now, you will lose.
Make your case now and through October and you might win.
Spending has been reduced? By how much, a buck 50?
Besides, I thought deficits don't matter, like Dick Cheney once said.
America has chosen its path. Higher taxation and spending, lower wages, a dwindling quality of life.
Soon we will all be speaking Arabic/Spanish.
And to think, the demise of the GOP would happen during a period of time with the worst democrat President in US history is in office.
Bunch of loser crybabies, but you know better! I have no pity for you!
Buck up and win the election, quit crying.
What a bunch of whiny bastards. There is political stalemate. Expect the budget to continue the status quo. Get out and vote and see where the chips fall for 2017.
The debt has only went up... Poach all RinosSounds like you're into self defeating prophecies. "We're doomed, oh no", when the deficit has been cut by 70% since 2009, largely through the efforts of the men you hate the most (Republican leadership), and you are in position to have a truly historic election victory. But, no. It' s wah wah I can't get 100% of what I want right now, so I'm taking my ball and going homeSpending has been reduced. It will be reduced further. Conservatives don't have the votes to force their agenda on the people. Republicans know the prolonged shutdown that would occur if conservatives tried to force their agenda would be blamed on Republicans, and they would lose the election (the previous shutdown was not long enough to have an effect on a 2014 election cycle that through gerrymandering and the number of Dem vs Rep Senate seats up for grabs favored Reps).It's a money game and corporate backers of either party don't want a reduction of the money being spent by Washington.
Push for your agenda now, you will lose.
Make your case now and through October and you might win.
Spending has been reduced? By how much, a buck 50?
Besides, I thought deficits don't matter, like Dick Cheney once said.
America has chosen its path. Higher taxation and spending, lower wages, a dwindling quality of life.
Soon we will all be speaking Arabic/Spanish.
And to think, the demise of the GOP would happen during a period of time with the worst democrat President in US history is in office.
Bunch of loser crybabies, but you know better! I have no pity for you!
Buck up and win the election, quit crying.
Spending has been reduced. It will be reduced further. Conservatives don't have the votes to force their agenda on the people. Republicans know the prolonged shutdown that would occur if conservatives tried to force their agenda would be blamed on Republicans, and they would lose the election (the previous shutdown was not long enough to have an effect on a 2014 election cycle that through gerrymandering and the number of Dem vs Rep Senate seats up for grabs favored Reps).It's a money game and corporate backers of either party don't want a reduction of the money being spent by Washington.
Push for your agenda now, you will lose.
Make your case now and through October and you might win.
Meh, I would have no problem with the GOP ceasing to exist. Perhaps something would occupy that power vacuum that I could actually vote for.Sounds like you're into self defeating prophecies. "We're doomed, oh no", when the deficit has been cut by 70% since 2009, largely through the efforts of the men you hate the most (Republican leadership), and you are in position to have a truly historic election victory. But, no. It' s wah wah I can't get 100% of what I want right now, so I'm taking my ball and going homeSpending has been reduced. It will be reduced further. Conservatives don't have the votes to force their agenda on the people. Republicans know the prolonged shutdown that would occur if conservatives tried to force their agenda would be blamed on Republicans, and they would lose the election (the previous shutdown was not long enough to have an effect on a 2014 election cycle that through gerrymandering and the number of Dem vs Rep Senate seats up for grabs favored Reps).It's a money game and corporate backers of either party don't want a reduction of the money being spent by Washington.
Push for your agenda now, you will lose.
Make your case now and through October and you might win.
Spending has been reduced? By how much, a buck 50?
Besides, I thought deficits don't matter, like Dick Cheney once said.
America has chosen its path. Higher taxation and spending, lower wages, a dwindling quality of life.
Soon we will all be speaking Arabic/Spanish.
And to think, the demise of the GOP would happen during a period of time with the worst democrat President in US history is in office.
Bunch of loser crybabies, but you know better! I have no pity for you!
Buck up and win the election, quit crying.
I disagree in general. Absolutists will not achieve anything but we are also not getting 'incremental' victories. We are not getting victories at all.Limbaugh and the other media division pimps need to keep their listeners angry and animated.
This absolutist shit from them really hasn't helped anything.
You want better Congressional outcomes? Get more absolutists elected. Until then, that's the way it goes. You'll have to deal with the adults who understand that (a) cooperation is not capitulation, and (b) incremental victories would be better than none.
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Don't you think the GOP could get some victories if it didn't act like two different, warring parties? They can't even cooperate with each other, let alone the Democrats.I disagree in general. Absolutists will not achieve anything but we are also not getting 'incremental' victories. We are not getting victories at all.Limbaugh and the other media division pimps need to keep their listeners angry and animated.
This absolutist shit from them really hasn't helped anything.
You want better Congressional outcomes? Get more absolutists elected. Until then, that's the way it goes. You'll have to deal with the adults who understand that (a) cooperation is not capitulation, and (b) incremental victories would be better than none.
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Certainly. I also think they have gotten some victories.Don't you think the GOP could get some victories if it didn't act like two different, warring parties? They can't even cooperate with each other, let alone the Democrats.I disagree in general. Absolutists will not achieve anything but we are also not getting 'incremental' victories. We are not getting victories at all.Limbaugh and the other media division pimps need to keep their listeners angry and animated.
This absolutist shit from them really hasn't helped anything.
You want better Congressional outcomes? Get more absolutists elected. Until then, that's the way it goes. You'll have to deal with the adults who understand that (a) cooperation is not capitulation, and (b) incremental victories would be better than none.
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Not even close to true. The Republicans have the House. They have a small majority in the Senate, hence subject to filibuster. The Democrats have the Presidency.What a bunch of whiny bastards. There is political stalemate. Expect the budget to continue the status quo. Get out and vote and see where the chips fall for 2017.
The ruse is up. There is only one party.
Fuck them all.
Now, there is a major election in 1 year. The balance of power will change. There will be a chance to make big changes to public policy then.
Have the debate. Get it settled in the election.
Now is not the time to expect a revolutionary budget favoring one side's policies, when nobody knows what the outcome of the election will be.
The GOP has the House? What the hell for? What have they done other than play with themselves?
Certainly. I also think they have gotten some victories.Don't you think the GOP could get some victories if it didn't act like two different, warring parties? They can't even cooperate with each other, let alone the Democrats.I disagree in general. Absolutists will not achieve anything but we are also not getting 'incremental' victories. We are not getting victories at all.Limbaugh and the other media division pimps need to keep their listeners angry and animated.
This absolutist shit from them really hasn't helped anything.
You want better Congressional outcomes? Get more absolutists elected. Until then, that's the way it goes. You'll have to deal with the adults who understand that (a) cooperation is not capitulation, and (b) incremental victories would be better than none.
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The point is that they are not getting any (or even trying to) victories that I would support. The republican party as a whole does not actually support ANYTHING that I stand for even though they pay a lot of lip service to many positions I take.
Don't you think the GOP could get some victories if it didn't act like two different, warring parties? They can't even cooperate with each other, let alone the Democrats.I disagree in general. Absolutists will not achieve anything but we are also not getting 'incremental' victories. We are not getting victories at all.Limbaugh and the other media division pimps need to keep their listeners angry and animated.
This absolutist shit from them really hasn't helped anything.
You want better Congressional outcomes? Get more absolutists elected. Until then, that's the way it goes. You'll have to deal with the adults who understand that (a) cooperation is not capitulation, and (b) incremental victories would be better than none.
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The deficit is way, way down compared to 2009, is it not?
Don't you think the GOP could get some victories if it didn't act like two different, warring parties? They can't even cooperate with each other, let alone the Democrats.I disagree in general. Absolutists will not achieve anything but we are also not getting 'incremental' victories. We are not getting victories at all.Limbaugh and the other media division pimps need to keep their listeners angry and animated.
This absolutist shit from them really hasn't helped anything.
You want better Congressional outcomes? Get more absolutists elected. Until then, that's the way it goes. You'll have to deal with the adults who understand that (a) cooperation is not capitulation, and (b) incremental victories would be better than none.
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So where's the middle ground at????
The Republicans promised us change if they got leadership of the Congress. We gave it to them. When that didn't work, they said they were held hostage by the Senate, and they need leadership of that too. We gave it to them. That didn't work, so now they are telling us they need the White House on top of everything else.
Look: when Democrats have leadership, we have to do things the Democrat way. When Republicans have leadership, we have to do things the Democrat way. What's the point of even trying if Democrats get their way no matter who's in charge?
I didn't elect GOP leadership to look good. I didn't hire GOP leadership so they can solely focus on reelections. I hired them to do a job, and they're not doing it.
Well, the only answer can be to get more people you like, elected. The questions would then be (a) can you actually get them elected, and (b) would they be so conservative that they couldn't keep more moderate Republicans on their side in votes.I didn't elect GOP leadership to look good. I didn't hire GOP leadership so they can solely focus on reelections. I hired them to do a job, and they're not doing it.