Russian Mercenary Chief Says His Are Rebelling, Some Left Ukraine and Entered Russian City.




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Military convoy on motorway connecting Moscow and southern Russia - regional administration

24 Jun 2023 ~~ Reuters


The government of the southern Russian Voronezh region urged residents to avoid the M-4 north-south motorway connecting Moscow to southern regions because a military convoy was on the move there, after the leader of the Wagner private militia suggested that he planned to oust Russia's military leadership.
The government said on its Telegram channel that the situation was under control and that measures were being taken to ensure public safety.

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I wonder how many Russian soldiers will just join the Wagner soldiers.
More importantly the Russian army wants to get paid - and is extremely annoyed that their own officers embezzled the money supposed to go towards body armor, food rations, vehicle maintenance and most importantly ammunition.
So, Putin’s paid mercenaries are reportedly rebelling and from the looks of today’s White House press conference Biden’s mercenaries may be rebelling too. Should be a fun weekend.
Presently. there is no land force capable of stopping Wagner soldiers between Moscow and Rostov. The only hope is the Russian Air Force, which has had a weak record in Ukraine and their willingness to get involved entirely depends on their loyalty.
Russia simply does not have extra combat capable units sitting around. And I don't see Putin ordering the MOD to send their front-line units on a fighting retreat from the Donbas and Crimea to attack Prigozhin's rear.
 
The same Wagner the US kicked the living shit out of?


Yes, but more experienced now, after the Ukraine front and Bakhmut. For a private force of their size, I understand they are pretty good, with leadership of former Russian Special Forces and former Russian Officers, that got fed up with the Russian military.
 
There is a lot of 'separatist' in fighting going on right now too. Prigozhin (Wagner chief) is threatening the Defense minister (Sergie Shoigu) for his ordering a rocket attack against the Wagners Ukraine field camps. This is personal apparently.
Personal and professional. He had complaint of lack of support, even while his forces were the only Russian forces making headway, and his group the one that took briefly Bakhmut, being better tactically than the Russian military Generals. Pretty butal. Their punishment for treason is a sledge hammer to the head, not wasting bullets. Shoigu, had best stay off the field, or Russia will be missing another General.
 
Trump and his supporters need to pick better allies. Russia couldn't take care of Ukraine and seem to have a little uprising of their own to deal with.

Biden keeps looking better and better. Great news for Americans...bad news for MAGA dolts.

Huh? Not sure this is going to end (at least in the short term) the way you are thinking. Russia imploding likely leads to a whole chain of events that as I said in the short term arent going to be great.
 
he owner of the Wagner private military contractor made his most direct challenge to the Kremlin yet on Friday, calling for an armed rebellion aimed at ousting Russia’s defense minister. The security services reacted immediately by calling for the arrest of Yevgeny Prigozhin.

In a sign of how seriously the Kremlin was taking the threat, security was heightened in Moscow and in Rostov-on-Don, which is home to the Russian military headquarters for the southern region and also oversees the fighting in Ukraine.


While the outcome of the confrontation was still unclear, it appeared likely to further hinder Moscow’s war effort as Kyiv’s forces were probing Russian defenses in the initial stages of a counteroffensive.

Prigozhin claimed early Saturday that his forces had crossed into Russia from Ukraine and had reached Rostov, saying they faced no resistance from young conscripts at checkpoints and that his forces “aren’t fighting against children.”

This guy was Pooty's fair haired boy, until he was not. He is accusing of the Russian Defense Ministry of using his men as cannon fodder. He is also saying the war in Ukraine cannot be won.

He will not allow his men to be killed on the alter to Pooty.
The head of the Wagner group might be viewed by most Russian soldiers as the real deal. And perhaps they criticize Putin for not being on the front lines.

Progozin whatever you think about this guy here is a guy who is in his 60s and is out there fighting on the front lines. The guy looks like he’s a bodybuilder. Talk about somebody being healthy taking care of themselves talk about the fact that you can have 65-year-olds who are in better shape than 20 year olds.

The other question is if progrozin takes over Russia will Russia become more authoritarian, what direction will the Russia Ukraine war take? Will there be an attempted truce with Ukraine?
 
More like Ukraine is falling for it.

I don’t know how you idiots can keep believing everything this serial propagandists says.

Rostov On Don is the Headquarters for Russian Southern Military District. Which is also the headquarters for the Invasion of Ukraine. Yevgeny Prigozhin is accusing the Russian Military of starving his men on supplies and ammunition.

Right now, what Prigozhin is doing favors Ukraine. Pooty cannot fight a two front war, especially when his own troops are ill-equipped, ill-fed and ill-led.

I would be more worried about who winds up with control of the Russian Stock Pile of Nuclear Weapons. You can N.A.T.O. is on alert right now.
 
he owner of the Wagner private military contractor made his most direct challenge to the Kremlin yet on Friday, calling for an armed rebellion aimed at ousting Russia’s defense minister. The security services reacted immediately by calling for the arrest of Yevgeny Prigozhin.

In a sign of how seriously the Kremlin was taking the threat, security was heightened in Moscow and in Rostov-on-Don, which is home to the Russian military headquarters for the southern region and also oversees the fighting in Ukraine.


While the outcome of the confrontation was still unclear, it appeared likely to further hinder Moscow’s war effort as Kyiv’s forces were probing Russian defenses in the initial stages of a counteroffensive.

Prigozhin claimed early Saturday that his forces had crossed into Russia from Ukraine and had reached Rostov, saying they faced no resistance from young conscripts at checkpoints and that his forces “aren’t fighting against children.”

This guy was Pooty's fair haired boy, until he was not. He is accusing of the Russian Defense Ministry of using his men as cannon fodder. He is also saying the war in Ukraine cannot be won.

He will not allow his men to be killed on the alter to Pooty.

A plane tied to Putin left Moscow this morning with the transponder turned off. Another plane with Lashenko on board left Belarus with its transponder turned off, and reappeared in Turkey.

It’s on.

Let’s see which Russian trolls on usmb are notably absent today.
 
Prior to taking over Russia, Putin said his greatest regret was watching the USSR collapse and that one day he would rebuild it one day.

Now Putin is just trying to keep Russia.
 
Rostov On Don is the Headquarters for Russian Southern Military District. Which is also the headquarters for the Invasion of Ukraine. Yevgeny Prigozhin is accusing the Russian Military of starving his men on supplies and ammunition.

Right now, what Prigozhin is doing favors Ukraine. Pooty cannot fight a two front war, especially when his own troops are ill-equipped, ill-fed and ill-led.

I would be more worried about who winds up with control of the Russian Stock Pile of Nuclear Weapons. You can N.A.T.O. is on alert right now.
Prigozhin isn’t Russian military, why should they be supplying him?

Prigozhin’s Wagner has been kicking Ukraine’s ass on his own with a bunch of convicts.
 
Yeehaw! Got us a convoy! We ought to offer Russia membership in the EU and nato. There are just a few hurdles like democracy human rights...
 
Prigozhin isn’t Russian military, why should they be supplying him?

Prigozhin’s Wagner has been kicking Ukraine’s ass on his own with a bunch of convicts.
Actually they were getting incredibly high casualty rates but at least they tried. Very badly trained. Hopefully this will be the end of Wagner in Africa and Syria where they're causing all kinds of trouble. For Putin mainly...
 
Prigozhin isn’t Russian military, why should they be supplying him?

Prigozhin’s Wagner has been kicking Ukraine’s ass on his own with a bunch of convicts.

The Wagner group is a band of mercenaries, a tool for Putin to use. I doubt Putin saw them as much more than that. Killing Prigozhin's troops was a mistake.

Now Putin not only has his war in Ukraine to fight but has to fight to jold onto Russia.
 
Prigozhin isn’t Russian military, why should they be supplying him?

Prigozhin’s Wagner has been kicking Ukraine’s ass on his own with a bunch of convicts.


Prigozhin was fighting Pooty's war in Ukraine, so yeah his men needed to be supplied. AND the fact of the matter is that Ukraine is now engaging in a counter-offensive. The Russian Army had it's collective ass kicked by Ukraine.
 

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