RW domestic war on words ..

[Fenton Lum]

Again you blame me for the things that commies do.

Attention..I think commies should be summarily executed.

Then we don't have to worry about indoctrination in the schools, gulags, concentration camps, reservations (a progressive concept, incidentally)...all those issues go away.

"Attention..I think commies should be summarily executed."

Another fine Jesus loving freedom minded american.

Commies are the enemies of Christ, and they are the enemies of the US and all the children that live here.

I once asked a communist what percentage of the American population he would be willing to see die, in order to have his Communist REvolution.

I don't recall the exact number he admitted to, but it was high enough that it was very likely to include me.

I pointed out to him that it was noteworthy that the site we were on, required me to be civil to a man who admitted that he wanted me and my peer group genocided.

How many whites if they could would get rid of all the dark people and gays and Jews? Probably more of them then there are commys.

Actual card carrying commies? Maybe.

Hard left suckers who would carry water for commies right up till it was their turn against the wall?


That would be a different answer.

"Commies" is nothing more than a label some on the rabid frothy mouthed right hurl at others with different views when they have nothing to ague a point with. The use of the empty term "liberals" is much the same. Have another view, get a label, discussion avoided.

 

[Fenton Lum]

No reasonable observer would compare our secular societies with religious freedom with the shitholes of the ME.

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I've noticed!

THe vast majority of lefties, don't like it when someone asks hard questions and will keep pushing for a real answer.

You all sound alike to me, and accuse each other of the same stuff. Kinda like I don't see much of a difference in Fox and MSNBC. They both push the same perceptual reality, the same power structure, the same disease, division, fear, anxiety, and powerlessness of the masses to create a healthier society for all of us to live in.

 

[Fenton Lum]

I doubt they care what you call them. But we are certainly invested in a religious war here too, so I guess all this comes down to, "well you made it religious first!", "nu huh, you guys did!". Ya gotta wonder if Osama won, we seem just as fucked up and incoherent is a society as much of the middle east. And just as rabidly frothy mouthed fundamentalist.

No reasonable observer would compare our secular societies with religious freedom with the shitholes of the ME.

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I have my fair share of right wingers who hate me too.

I remember in the 90s and before that politicians argued on the Senate and house floor but got along personally. I think if you're honest you'd admit that it was the GOP who first started the hate. When you decide to use race and religion to divide us and when you have Alec and gerrymandering and Grover norquist. And then claim class warfare doesn't exist?

I'm sure guys like you want what's best I just think you're being conned.

The other day I was listening to a story about how in the 60s things changed in America. The social contract was changed. Workers matter less and shareholders are number 1. Gordon geeko. Enron. The 2007 great recession, breaking unions, sending jobs overseas, no more pensions and affordable insurance.

You guys talk about "when America was great". Wasn't that when our parents had job security and pensions? I want what the baby boomers got

There it is, the entire economic system has been rerigged over the past 5-6 decades or so, and it simply no longer works for those not perched at the top. That used to be considered unamerican. Now to even question the thing has become unamerican. But look, 6 major multinational corporations control 90% of what americans see, hear and read since the "liberal" Bill Clinton deregualted the FCC. And americans willingly turn on their televisions and radios to be programmed daily.

 

[Fenton Lum]

They don't consider themselves commies because the commie indoctrination they have succumbed to doesn't use the word "communist".

But they are still commies. Of the same brand that are in China, the ones who snitch out their neighbors for an extra onion on the plate, and drag pregnant women into the street for their compulsory late term abortions.

How much time have you spent in China? Is this the same China that american corporations are clammoring to do business with? Are you giving them a piece of your mind on their cooperation with the "commies"?

No reasonable observer would compare our secular societies with religious freedom with the shitholes of the ME.

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I have my fair share of right wingers who hate me too.

I remember in the 90s and before that politicians argued on the Senate and house floor but got along personally. I think if you're honest you'd admit that it was the GOP who first started the hate. When you decide to use race and religion to divide us and when you have Alec and gerrymandering and Grover norquist. And then claim class warfare doesn't exist?

I'm sure guys like you want what's best I just think you're being conned.

The other day I was listening to a story about how in the 60s things changed in America. The social contract was changed. Workers matter less and shareholders are number 1. Gordon geeko. Enron. The 2007 great recession, breaking unions, sending jobs overseas, no more pensions and affordable insurance.

You guys talk about "when America was great". Wasn't that when our parents had job security and pensions? I want what the baby boomers got

It was way before that

This use of the Politics of Personal destruction go way back.

Google Sen Bob Packwood sometime.

Or the way that Tip O'Neal talked about Reagan when Reagan wasn't in the room.

What changed was that conservatives started fighting BACK.



And yes. That is all part of the RIse of Trump and the GOP flipping on Free Trade and Immigration.

You all sound alike and you all fall back on the playgroundish "well yeah but they started it" crap. The fact of the matter is that we can no longer self govern, and until the zealots on "both" sides realize they are being played by the power structure, it will remain so.

 

[sealybobo]

No reasonable observer would compare our secular societies with religious freedom with the shitholes of the ME.

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I have my fair share of right wingers who hate me too.

I remember in the 90s and before that politicians argued on the Senate and house floor but got along personally. I think if you're honest you'd admit that it was the GOP who first started the hate. When you decide to use race and religion to divide us and when you have Alec and gerrymandering and Grover norquist. And then claim class warfare doesn't exist?

I'm sure guys like you want what's best I just think you're being conned.

The other day I was listening to a story about how in the 60s things changed in America. The social contract was changed. Workers matter less and shareholders are number 1. Gordon geeko. Enron. The 2007 great recession, breaking unions, sending jobs overseas, no more pensions and affordable insurance.

You guys talk about "when America was great". Wasn't that when our parents had job security and pensions? I want what the baby boomers got

There it is, the entire economic system has been rerigged over the past 5-6 decades or so, and it simply no longer works for those not perched at the top. That used to be considered unamerican. Now to even question the thing has become unamerican. But look, 6 major multinational corporations control 90% of what americans see, hear and read since the "liberal" Bill Clinton deregualted the FCC. And americans willingly turn on their televisions and radios to be programmed daily.

Can not argue with you there my friend. Us liberals are mad at the Clinton's for NAFTA and Deregulating the media and a lot of other things they went along with the GOP on. I'm sure they gave tax breaks to the rich and corporations too. While I understand what you are saying, these things are no reason to vote GOP.

Do you want the Supreme Court Justice to be a right winger or moderate democrat? And do you want the President signing ALEC, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell legislation passed? Then vote Trump. Not me.

 

[easyt65]

Another radical islanic terrorist attack
Liberals / Obama blames Conservatives
Conservatives point it out
Liberals / Obama Double-Down

Welcome to 'Groundhog Day'

 

[sealybobo]

They don't consider themselves commies because the commie indoctrination they have succumbed to doesn't use the word "communist".

But they are still commies. Of the same brand that are in China, the ones who snitch out their neighbors for an extra onion on the plate, and drag pregnant women into the street for their compulsory late term abortions.

How much time have you spent in China? Is this the same China that american corporations are clammoring to do business with? Are you giving them a piece of your mind on their cooperation with the "commies"?

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I have my fair share of right wingers who hate me too.

I remember in the 90s and before that politicians argued on the Senate and house floor but got along personally. I think if you're honest you'd admit that it was the GOP who first started the hate. When you decide to use race and religion to divide us and when you have Alec and gerrymandering and Grover norquist. And then claim class warfare doesn't exist?

I'm sure guys like you want what's best I just think you're being conned.

The other day I was listening to a story about how in the 60s things changed in America. The social contract was changed. Workers matter less and shareholders are number 1. Gordon geeko. Enron. The 2007 great recession, breaking unions, sending jobs overseas, no more pensions and affordable insurance.

You guys talk about "when America was great". Wasn't that when our parents had job security and pensions? I want what the baby boomers got

It was way before that

This use of the Politics of Personal destruction go way back.

Google Sen Bob Packwood sometime.

Or the way that Tip O'Neal talked about Reagan when Reagan wasn't in the room.

What changed was that conservatives started fighting BACK.



And yes. That is all part of the RIse of Trump and the GOP flipping on Free Trade and Immigration.

You all sound alike and you all fall back on the playgroundish "well yeah but they started it" crap. The fact of the matter is that we can no longer self govern, and until the zealots on "both" sides realize they are being played by the power structure, it will remain so.

I believe We the People need to take back one party. Do you think it is possible for poor and middle class people to take over the GOP when the rich already completely own it? Better to start with the Democrats. Take them over first. We already have a voice with them. You can't take over the GOP when the Koch brothers own it. But we can take back the Democratic party that used to be for the people.

Hillary Clinton Secures Organized Labor's Prize Endorsement

 

[Fenton Lum]

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I have my fair share of right wingers who hate me too.

I remember in the 90s and before that politicians argued on the Senate and house floor but got along personally. I think if you're honest you'd admit that it was the GOP who first started the hate. When you decide to use race and religion to divide us and when you have Alec and gerrymandering and Grover norquist. And then claim class warfare doesn't exist?

I'm sure guys like you want what's best I just think you're being conned.

The other day I was listening to a story about how in the 60s things changed in America. The social contract was changed. Workers matter less and shareholders are number 1. Gordon geeko. Enron. The 2007 great recession, breaking unions, sending jobs overseas, no more pensions and affordable insurance.

You guys talk about "when America was great". Wasn't that when our parents had job security and pensions? I want what the baby boomers got

There it is, the entire economic system has been rerigged over the past 5-6 decades or so, and it simply no longer works for those not perched at the top. That used to be considered unamerican. Now to even question the thing has become unamerican. But look, 6 major multinational corporations control 90% of what americans see, hear and read since the "liberal" Bill Clinton deregualted the FCC. And americans willingly turn on their televisions and radios to be programmed daily.

Can not argue with you there my friend. Us liberals are mad at the Clinton's for NAFTA and Deregulating the media and a lot of other things they went along with the GOP on. I'm sure they gave tax breaks to the rich and corporations too. While I understand what you are saying, these things are no reason to vote GOP.

Do you want the Supreme Court Justice to be a right winger or moderate democrat? And do you want the President signing ALEC, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell legislation passed? Then vote Trump. Not me.

I'm not saying vote GOP, I'm saying the entire system is a sham, the Reps vs. Dems schtick is an illusion, and the vote is merely exercise, while the masses are enticed to sneer “libs” and “cons” at each other in mass distraction. Go on and vote if that's ingrained, but then what? Going back home after voting and awaiting the deliverance of what you voted for is exactly how we got here. It is a pointless distraction which is why it’s pushed so by the power structure. American style “capitalism” and Soviet style “communism” are/were nothing but divergent paths to the same ultimate destination wherein all the power and wealth get redistributed and concentrated into the hands of a privileged few at the top. And those at the top share no penchant for the interference of the rabble below. The citizenry is merely choosing from bickering factions of a ruling aristocracy who engage in societal wealth extraction.

 

[Fenton Lum]

They don't consider themselves commies because the commie indoctrination they have succumbed to doesn't use the word "communist".

But they are still commies. Of the same brand that are in China, the ones who snitch out their neighbors for an extra onion on the plate, and drag pregnant women into the street for their compulsory late term abortions.

How much time have you spent in China? Is this the same China that american corporations are clammoring to do business with? Are you giving them a piece of your mind on their cooperation with the "commies"?

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I have my fair share of right wingers who hate me too.

I remember in the 90s and before that politicians argued on the Senate and house floor but got along personally. I think if you're honest you'd admit that it was the GOP who first started the hate. When you decide to use race and religion to divide us and when you have Alec and gerrymandering and Grover norquist. And then claim class warfare doesn't exist?

I'm sure guys like you want what's best I just think you're being conned.

The other day I was listening to a story about how in the 60s things changed in America. The social contract was changed. Workers matter less and shareholders are number 1. Gordon geeko. Enron. The 2007 great recession, breaking unions, sending jobs overseas, no more pensions and affordable insurance.

You guys talk about "when America was great". Wasn't that when our parents had job security and pensions? I want what the baby boomers got

It was way before that

This use of the Politics of Personal destruction go way back.

Google Sen Bob Packwood sometime.

Or the way that Tip O'Neal talked about Reagan when Reagan wasn't in the room.

What changed was that conservatives started fighting BACK.



And yes. That is all part of the RIse of Trump and the GOP flipping on Free Trade and Immigration.

You all sound alike and you all fall back on the playgroundish "well yeah but they started it" crap. The fact of the matter is that we can no longer self govern, and until the zealots on "both" sides realize they are being played by the power structure, it will remain so.

I believe We the People need to take back one party. Do you think it is possible for poor and middle class people to take over the GOP when the rich already completely own it? Better to start with the Democrats. Take them over first. We already have a voice with them. You can't take over the GOP when the Koch brothers own it. But we can take back the Democratic party that used to be for the people.

Hillary Clinton Secures Organized Labor's Prize Endorsement

Sorry, I don't share that sentiment, "both" parties answer to the same ultimate power structure and "We the People" don't have the money required to get into the game. Corporate power runs the economic system and the political system, they have become one in the same. "Both" parties are playing the same game, the "good" guys and the "bad" guys are all riding in different cars of the same train. Folks like the Kochs own "both" parties, they have the game covered, they play "both" sides of the field. Hilary Clinton will never embrace my views, and pretending to get elected isn't enough. There was nothing "liberal" about the Clinton administration at all. If you go back and look strictly at policy, Nixon was the last "liberal" president. The terms "liberal" and "conservative" mean nothing anymore outside social issues. The parties are united in the societal wealth extraction paradigm, we're all sharecroppers now.

 

[Correll]

They don't consider themselves commies because the commie indoctrination they have succumbed to doesn't use the word "communist".

But they are still commies. Of the same brand that are in China, the ones who snitch out their neighbors for an extra onion on the plate, and drag pregnant women into the street for their compulsory late term abortions.

And you're a fascist. Trumps your Mussolini or Hitler. Wants to ban all Muslims even

Stopping Muslims from moving here is not equal of sending Jews to DEATH CAMPS.

How many Germans or japs immigrated here in 1943?

I don't see the relevance.

It is silly to equate stopping Muslims from moving here, which we do ALL THE TIME, btw, to sending Jews to Death Camps.

That is what you are doing when you call Trump a Hitler.

And btw, also, it is minimizing the actual horror of the Holocaust to liken it to being sent home.

I think you have failed to imagine the scale of the Horror of that time, if you see any similarity between then and now.

COMPLETELY FAILED.

You are focusing on the differences. We are just looking at the comparisons. And it's not just us liberals saying it

Former New Jersey Republican Gov. Christine Todd Whitman compared Donald Trump's comments calling for a ban on Muslim entering the United States to those of Adolf Hitler's in the run-up to World War II.

"If you go and look at your history and you read your history in the lead-up to the Second World War this is the kind of rhetoric that allowed Hitler to move forward," Whitman told CNN's Alisyn Camerota on "New Day" on Wednesday. "Because you have people who were scared the economy was bad, they want someone to blame."
Republican leaders from Party Chairman Reince Priebus to House Speaker Paul Ryan have denounced Trump's most recent comments. And some conservatives have labeled Trump a fascist.
But Trump's most recent comments have drawn comparisons to Hitler, including a front page Tuesday on the Philadelphia Daily News showing Trump with his hand raised looking like a Nazi salute and the headline "The New Furor." Trump-themed Nazi graffiti was also spotted in Atlanta.

Trump is not claiming that Hispanics secretly control the world,

he is saying that employers are hiring cheap immigrant workers at the expense of Americans who want better wages.


That is a completely reasonable position.



THe person that tries to liken THAT to Hitler?


Ironically HE is the one engaged in extreme and hateful and divisive rhetoric.


The fact that some Republicans have internalized the Lefts definitions and rules on what is acceptable speech, does not make those rules any less stupid or dishonest.

 

[Correll]

Fo

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I've noticed!

THe vast majority of lefties, don't like it when someone asks hard questions and will keep pushing for a real answer.

For example?

Are you asking for an example of a lefty who did that, and example of it happening, or an example of one of the hard questions?

If it is one of the "hard questions" a current on going example is another thread where I have been asking,

"If it is Racist for Trump to say ONE hispanic hates him, then what does that make the Liberals who have been saying that HISPANICS as a group, hate Trump?"

To assume a judge is not going to be fair just because he's hispanic is the textbook definition of a racist comment. Do you understand that? That's like blacks saying a white judge can't be fair to a black person on trial.

Hispanics as a group do hate trump. That's just stating a fact.

Hispanic Voters Truly Cannot Stand Donald Trump

In fact, Trump's numbers are so abysmal among Hispanic voters they're almost hard to believe.

The new survey, via ABC and the Washington Post, finds that nearly 90 percent of Hispanics nationwide have an unfavorable view of Trump, with a robust 76 percent holding a "strongly unfavorable" view of the GOP's presumptive candidate.

Getting nine out of ten voters from any demographic to agree on something is a feat in modern American politics. Unfortunately for Trump, what they agree on is that he's a spectacularly bad candidate for issues that Hispanic voters care about.

1. It is not "text book" racism. He did not say that the Judge was not fair, just because he was hispanic.

2. No one is assuming anything. THe judge released sealed court documents to a lefty media source so they could use the information to attack Trump. That was not a fair decision.

3. So, it is ok for Liberals to say that HIspanics as a group hate TRump, by margins that are in your words, "hard to believe"

And yet, it is racist for Trump to claim that one specific Judge who has ruled against him did so because the judge is hispanic and has been offended by Trump's policies?

That is ABSURDLY SELF SERVING AND HYPOCRITICAL OF LEFTIES.

4. Getting 9 out of 10 voters to agree is common. IF they are a minority that has been subjected to extensive propaganda for generations.

 

[Correll]

Hmmmm. Visit ANY liberal college campus. Then tell me who has a "War of Words"

Says a lot if education is your enemy.

Conservatives say go to college but then mock colleges. Clearly blue collar cons

Knowing the value of an education in a 21st century economy does not mean that we can't note and ridicule the political agenda and bias of the Educational Industry AND their failures and abuse of their trust and position.

Or really anyone or anything that considers any other point of view, we see that all the time. So now you do NOT wish to let the markets decide? Is that the deal?

I said what I meant to say.

Noting in your post addressed what I said at all.

I am not here to defend shit you just make up.

 

[Correll]

I doubt they care what you call them. But we are certainly invested in a religious war here too, so I guess all this comes down to, "well you made it religious first!", "nu huh, you guys did!". Ya gotta wonder if Osama won, we seem just as fucked up and incoherent is a society as much of the middle east. And just as rabidly frothy mouthed fundamentalist.

No reasonable observer would compare our secular societies with religious freedom with the shitholes of the ME.

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

Oh please.

"Attention..I think commies should be summarily executed."

Another fine Jesus loving freedom minded american.

Commies are the enemies of Christ, and they are the enemies of the US and all the children that live here.

I once asked a communist what percentage of the American population he would be willing to see die, in order to have his Communist REvolution.

I don't recall the exact number he admitted to, but it was high enough that it was very likely to include me.

I pointed out to him that it was noteworthy that the site we were on, required me to be civil to a man who admitted that he wanted me and my peer group genocided.

How many whites if they could would get rid of all the dark people and gays and Jews? Probably more of them then there are commys.

Actual card carrying commies? Maybe.

Hard left suckers who would carry water for commies right up till it was their turn against the wall?


That would be a different answer.

"Commies" is nothing more than a label some on the rabid frothy mouthed right hurl at others with different views when they have nothing to ague a point with. The use of the empty term "liberals" is much the same. Have another view, get a label, discussion avoided.

You are projecting the way YOU use labels.

That has nothing to do with me.

 

[easyt65]

'RW War on Words'

This coming from the party whose President was found in Contempt of Court and disbarred for deceitfully and unethically testifying by arguing about the sefinition of the word 'IS'...

 

[westwall]

"radical islamic terrorist" ... the new dividing point being driven home by RW's to help in the confusion and create another defection for the party ..

"This great nation of many religions understands, our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil," Bush said in January 2002.

even the leader of free world idiots got it right.

If you want to talk about "Newspeak", that's a progressive thing dude. The war on words is coming overwhelmingly from the left. You know.....from YOU!

 

[Correll]

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I've noticed!

THe vast majority of lefties, don't like it when someone asks hard questions and will keep pushing for a real answer.

You all sound alike to me, and accuse each other of the same stuff. Kinda like I don't see much of a difference in Fox and MSNBC. They both push the same perceptual reality, the same power structure, the same disease, division, fear, anxiety, and powerlessness of the masses to create a healthier society for all of us to live in.

YOu are kidding yourself.

Conservatives have been getting slammed for being "violent" while throwing protesters out of their rallies so that they can have their rallies and exercise their right to speech.


Lefties have been rioting in the streets attacking conservatives on their way to rallies in order to stop rallies and to stop their ideological enemies from exercising their right to speech.


If you can't see a difference there, it is because you don't WANT to see the difference.

 

[Correll]

They don't consider themselves commies because the commie indoctrination they have succumbed to doesn't use the word "communist".

But they are still commies. Of the same brand that are in China, the ones who snitch out their neighbors for an extra onion on the plate, and drag pregnant women into the street for their compulsory late term abortions.

How much time have you spent in China? Is this the same China that american corporations are clammoring to do business with? Are you giving them a piece of your mind on their cooperation with the "commies"?

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

I have my fair share of right wingers who hate me too.

I remember in the 90s and before that politicians argued on the Senate and house floor but got along personally. I think if you're honest you'd admit that it was the GOP who first started the hate. When you decide to use race and religion to divide us and when you have Alec and gerrymandering and Grover norquist. And then claim class warfare doesn't exist?

I'm sure guys like you want what's best I just think you're being conned.

The other day I was listening to a story about how in the 60s things changed in America. The social contract was changed. Workers matter less and shareholders are number 1. Gordon geeko. Enron. The 2007 great recession, breaking unions, sending jobs overseas, no more pensions and affordable insurance.

You guys talk about "when America was great". Wasn't that when our parents had job security and pensions? I want what the baby boomers got

It was way before that

This use of the Politics of Personal destruction go way back.

Google Sen Bob Packwood sometime.

Or the way that Tip O'Neal talked about Reagan when Reagan wasn't in the room.

What changed was that conservatives started fighting BACK.



And yes. That is all part of the RIse of Trump and the GOP flipping on Free Trade and Immigration.

You all sound alike and you all fall back on the playgroundish "well yeah but they started it" crap. The fact of the matter is that we can no longer self govern, and until the zealots on "both" sides realize they are being played by the power structure, it will remain so.

A firm grasp of how the situation has developed is part of understanding what is actually going on.

You show up and see to people fighting, you might assume it is a Duel, and avoid getting involved.


On the other hand if someone then tells you that the one guy just attacked the other guy for no reason, screaming that he was going to eat him, you suddenly realize that the situation is not what you thought.

And adjust your behavior accordingly.

 

[Fenton Lum]

And you're a fascist. Trumps your Mussolini or Hitler. Wants to ban all Muslims even

Stopping Muslims from moving here is not equal of sending Jews to DEATH CAMPS.

How many Germans or japs immigrated here in 1943?

I don't see the relevance.

It is silly to equate stopping Muslims from moving here, which we do ALL THE TIME, btw, to sending Jews to Death Camps.

That is what you are doing when you call Trump a Hitler.

And btw, also, it is minimizing the actual horror of the Holocaust to liken it to being sent home.

I think you have failed to imagine the scale of the Horror of that time, if you see any similarity between then and now.

COMPLETELY FAILED.

You are focusing on the differences. We are just looking at the comparisons. And it's not just us liberals saying it

Former New Jersey Republican Gov. Christine Todd Whitman compared Donald Trump's comments calling for a ban on Muslim entering the United States to those of Adolf Hitler's in the run-up to World War II.

"If you go and look at your history and you read your history in the lead-up to the Second World War this is the kind of rhetoric that allowed Hitler to move forward," Whitman told CNN's Alisyn Camerota on "New Day" on Wednesday. "Because you have people who were scared the economy was bad, they want someone to blame."
Republican leaders from Party Chairman Reince Priebus to House Speaker Paul Ryan have denounced Trump's most recent comments. And some conservatives have labeled Trump a fascist.
But Trump's most recent comments have drawn comparisons to Hitler, including a front page Tuesday on the Philadelphia Daily News showing Trump with his hand raised looking like a Nazi salute and the headline "The New Furor." Trump-themed Nazi graffiti was also spotted in Atlanta.

Trump is not claiming that Hispanics secretly control the world,

he is saying that employers are hiring cheap immigrant workers at the expense of Americans who want better wages.


That is a completely reasonable position.



THe person that tries to liken THAT to Hitler?


Ironically HE is the one engaged in extreme and hateful and divisive rhetoric.


The fact that some Republicans have internalized the Lefts definitions and rules on what is acceptable speech, does not make those rules any less stupid or dishonest.

" ... he is saying that employers are hiring cheap immigrant workers at the expense of Americans who want better wages."

Nothing new, been going on forever, and if your "job creator" class didn't want this then it would have never existed in the first place. But they still do and lobby for it. The fact of the matter is your system has lost all semblance of legitimacy and can no longer respond to the needs of the citizenry since it's entire allegiance is to the substantial people alone.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Hmmmm. Visit ANY liberal college campus. Then tell me who has a "War of Words"

Says a lot if education is your enemy.

Conservatives say go to college but then mock colleges. Clearly blue collar cons

Knowing the value of an education in a 21st century economy does not mean that we can't note and ridicule the political agenda and bias of the Educational Industry AND their failures and abuse of their trust and position.

Or really anyone or anything that considers any other point of view, we see that all the time. So now you do NOT wish to let the markets decide? Is that the deal?

I said what I meant to say.

Noting in your post addressed what I said at all.

I am not here to defend shit you just make up.

"Conservatives" are rather inconsistent in their "principles" aren’t they; it always depends upon who is affected, and how, and what message is put forth. So all we’re really saying here then is you just don’t like what some institutions of higher learning teach. Fine, don’t send your kids to those.

 

[Fenton Lum]

No reasonable observer would compare our secular societies with religious freedom with the shitholes of the ME.

"No reasonable observer would compare"

They're not reasonable though Correll, that's the fundamental problem, Leftists are devoid of reason, they illustrate this on a daily basis.

I mean they can't even handle people having a differing opinion, it doesn't take them long to throw a fit and resort to name calling. Therefore we can't expect them to show any other behaviour on the topic of Radical Islamic Terrorism, most of them have spent days, weeks, months apologising for Islam at every available opportunity, some have even continued this despite what occured in the Orlando nightclub.

Maybe some of them have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I'm a lib and I like correll

Thank you seely. I like you too.

BUT, the vast majority of libs on this site hate me with a fiery passion.

Oh please.

Commies are the enemies of Christ, and they are the enemies of the US and all the children that live here.

I once asked a communist what percentage of the American population he would be willing to see die, in order to have his Communist REvolution.

I don't recall the exact number he admitted to, but it was high enough that it was very likely to include me.

I pointed out to him that it was noteworthy that the site we were on, required me to be civil to a man who admitted that he wanted me and my peer group genocided.

How many whites if they could would get rid of all the dark people and gays and Jews? Probably more of them then there are commys.

Actual card carrying commies? Maybe.

Hard left suckers who would carry water for commies right up till it was their turn against the wall?


That would be a different answer.

"Commies" is nothing more than a label some on the rabid frothy mouthed right hurl at others with different views when they have nothing to ague a point with. The use of the empty term "liberals" is much the same. Have another view, get a label, discussion avoided.

You are projecting the way YOU use labels.

That has nothing to do with me.

Bullshit, you started with the labels love.