Sabra and Shatila: 30 Years Ago Today

[Hossfly]

Because the PLO fighters left the camps prior to the massacres.

"The Sabra and Shatila massacre was the slaughter of between 762 and 3,500 Palestinian and Lebanese Shiite civilians, by a Lebanese Christian Phalangist militia, in the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camps in Beirut, Lebanon between September 16 and September 18, 1982, during the Lebanese civil war.

"The massacre was presented as retaliation for the assassination of newly elected Lebanese president Bachir Gemayel, the leader of the Lebanese Kataeb Party. It was wrongly assumed that Palestinian militants had carried out the assassination, which is now generally attributed to native, pro-Syrian militants.

"Israel invaded Lebanon with the intention of rooting out the PLO. Under the supervision of the Multinational Force the PLO withdrew from Lebanon following weeks of battles in West Beirut and shortly before the massacre took place."

Can you think of any valid purpose Sharon would have had for allowing revenge-seeking militia to have access to unarmed civilians for three days?

Sabra and Shatila massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My question was about why didn't the people defend themselves.

Your question is about why unarmed women, children, and the elderly didn't defend themselves against heavily armed militia?

Yep. Just like the Jews who were marched to box cars. Anti-Semites always ask that question about the Jews. "Why did they allow themselves to be herded like sheep? Why didn't they resist?" Heavily armed thugs be damned.

 

[irosie91]

there was a huge difference between the jews murdered by the islamo nazis in the islamo nazi genocides in germany----and the Lebanese christian attack on Sabra and Shatilla Most important----the terrrorist islamo nazis of those two camps were ARMED ----it was an encampment of terrorists. AND there was ongoing conflict between the islamo nazis of Lebanon and the christians AND the islamo nazis of Lebanon had engaged in horrific atrocities against christians shortly before that event---in DAMOUR The islamo nazi pigs in germany and europe simply attacked innocent and completely unarmed jews----completely unprovoked ------just as they did in to chrisstians in Sudan, and Nigeria, and Armenia and in hindus in east pakistan and continue to do so in to hindus and christians in Indonesia and Kenya

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Christians in Lebanon, before the Muslims killed them off, were known as "Arab Christians", because of the way they dressed, the language they spoke, etc. That's why it was rumored that Sharon said, "Arabs kill Arabs, and they blame the Jews". Georgie even blamed Israel for Syria's current revolution, and Assad's massacres of his own people.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Christians in Lebanon, before the Muslims killed them off, were known as "Arab Christians", because of the way they dressed, the language they spoke, etc. That's why it was rumored that Sharon said, "Arabs kill Arabs, and they blame the Jews". Georgie even blamed Israel for Syria's current revolution, and Assad's massacres of his own people.

 

[irosie91]

My unnamed former FBI agent -----told me so................... and my dozens of "other sources said" and "we all know-----that ----US troops are---here and there and everywhere" and the entire arab spring and the cholera epidemic of 1947 have been machinations of the ZIONIST CONTROLLED CIA


I first encountered LOTS OF MUSLIMS----highly educated----the cream of muslim youth from more than a dozen muslim countries way back -----45 years ago One of the first of the most fascinating phrases I learned was "ZIONIST CONTROLLED CIA" no matter what disaster took place back home from assassinations to epidemics to typhoons -------it was all the MACHIINATIONS OF THE ZIONIST CONTROLLED CIA somehow the phrase seems to have falled out of favor I am surprised that tinnie does not use it

anyone remember the pakistani civil war of 1971? YUP----you guessed it------THE ZIONIST CONTROLLED CIA

 

[georgephillip]

The Israeli public was horrified by the news of the massacre, so some one had to take the blame, and since Sharon was Defense Minister, it was him, but to be fair the decision to trust the SLA in the camps was made much further down in the chain of command and passed forward as a recommended action. Sharon took it to the security cabinet and there was a difference of opinion, but it was finally approved. Clearly, it was a mistake to trust the Lebanese militia, and since Sharon was Defense Minister, it was ultimately his mistake.

How many "mistakes" did the heroic Jews make in Sabra and Shatila?

"On the morning of 18 September, Morris Draper, another of President Reagan's envoys dispatched to Beirut, sent a message to Sharon alleging Israeli responsibility: 'You must stop the massacres. They are obscene. I have an officer in the camp counting the bodies. You ought to be ashamed. They situation is rotten and terrible. They are killing children. You are in absolute control of the area, and therefore responsible for that area.'

"But the responsibility was greater than Draper suggested. On 15 September Israeli troops had surrounded Sabra and Shatila. They were never more than 300 yards away from the camps and sometimes as close as 50 yards.

"Moreover, Israeli soldiers were on the roof of the Kuwait embassy nearby and could see what was happening in both camps. There is a mass of evidence to show that the Israelis knew that a massacre was in progress by Thursday evening but did nothing to stop it until Saturday morning."

The IDF not only allowed the Phalange to enter the camps, it also prevented the civilians of Sabra and Shatila to flee from their murders. Does that count as one or multiple "mistakes" in your accounting?

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

The Lebanese militia had convinced the IDF that there were 2,000 to 3,000 PLO militant still in the camps so when the Lebanese went in the Israeli soldiers expected to hear gunfire and other signs of battle. There is no reason to think that the Israeli soldiers or officers knew that the people being killed were mostly women, children and some elderly. It was a terrible error in judgment to trust the Lebanese militia.

There was no error in judgement of any kind.
Jews were watching the massacres unfold from fifty yards away.

"Israeli soldiers were on the roof of the Kuwait embassy nearby and could see what was happening in both camps. There is a mass of evidence to show that the Israelis knew that a massacre was in progress by Thursday evening but did nothing to stop it until Saturday morning."

"There is further evidence which indicates the extent of Israel's complicity in the massacre. The discovery in one of the camps of an Israeli sergeant's identity tag does not prove that he actually took part in the killing but it is significant that the Israeli army did not allow him to appear before the Israeli Commission of Enquiry.

"More importantly, the Israelis were prepared to assist their Phalangist allies in a number of different ways: they lent bulldozers so that the killers could bury some of the dead; they fired flares throughout the night of 16 September--at a rate of two a minute according to one Israeli soldier -- so that the killers could see what they were doing; worst of all, they prevented civilians from fleeing and forced those who tried back into the camps."

Why did the heroic Jews force women and children back into the camps?

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

 

[irosie91]

Lots of mistakes are made in the military -----even during peace time there are avoidable accidental deaths just in training "games" There were a few during my time in active duty In the course of war there are LOTS AND LOTS OF MISTAKES -----the comment made by the NAZI PIG "how many mistakes did the JEWs make" is typical of nazi shit pigs for the record--------all militaries lose lots of people thru friendly fire-----in war time and lose lots of the enemy unneccessarily STINKING SHIT NAZI PIGS KNOW THAT FACT------but like to exploit the JEW issue ------because they are shit and always have "jew" on their lump of shit brains

 

[toomuchtime_]

How many "mistakes" did the heroic Jews make in Sabra and Shatila?

"On the morning of 18 September, Morris Draper, another of President Reagan's envoys dispatched to Beirut, sent a message to Sharon alleging Israeli responsibility: 'You must stop the massacres. They are obscene. I have an officer in the camp counting the bodies. You ought to be ashamed. They situation is rotten and terrible. They are killing children. You are in absolute control of the area, and therefore responsible for that area.'

"But the responsibility was greater than Draper suggested. On 15 September Israeli troops had surrounded Sabra and Shatila. They were never more than 300 yards away from the camps and sometimes as close as 50 yards.

"Moreover, Israeli soldiers were on the roof of the Kuwait embassy nearby and could see what was happening in both camps. There is a mass of evidence to show that the Israelis knew that a massacre was in progress by Thursday evening but did nothing to stop it until Saturday morning."

The IDF not only allowed the Phalange to enter the camps, it also prevented the civilians of Sabra and Shatila to flee from their murders. Does that count as one or multiple "mistakes" in your accounting?

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

The Lebanese militia had convinced the IDF that there were 2,000 to 3,000 PLO militant still in the camps so when the Lebanese went in the Israeli soldiers expected to hear gunfire and other signs of battle. There is no reason to think that the Israeli soldiers or officers knew that the people being killed were mostly women, children and some elderly. It was a terrible error in judgment to trust the Lebanese militia.

There was no error in judgement of any kind.
Jews were watching the massacres unfold from fifty yards away.

"Israeli soldiers were on the roof of the Kuwait embassy nearby and could see what was happening in both camps. There is a mass of evidence to show that the Israelis knew that a massacre was in progress by Thursday evening but did nothing to stop it until Saturday morning."

"There is further evidence which indicates the extent of Israel's complicity in the massacre. The discovery in one of the camps of an Israeli sergeant's identity tag does not prove that he actually took part in the killing but it is significant that the Israeli army did not allow him to appear before the Israeli Commission of Enquiry.

"More importantly, the Israelis were prepared to assist their Phalangist allies in a number of different ways: they lent bulldozers so that the killers could bury some of the dead; they fired flares throughout the night of 16 September--at a rate of two a minute according to one Israeli soldier -- so that the killers could see what they were doing; worst of all, they prevented civilians from fleeing and forced those who tried back into the camps."

Why did the heroic Jews force women and children back into the camps?

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

Of course it was a mistake. It is foolish to pretend that Israel wanted this massacre. It obviously served no useful purpose and the reactions of both the Israeli government and the Israeli people after news of it came showed no one was more horrified by these events than the Israelis.

 

[irosie91]

So far none of the islamo nazi pigs have provided ANYTHING to suggest that either Sharon or the IDF took part in or planned the massacre in Sabra and Shatilla -----and they certainly had absolutely nothing to do with the islamic rape and murder of little girls fest and of as many obscene for allah mutilations as they could manage in Damour The most the pigs can assert is THE JOOOOOOS WERE THERE ----which in the minds of the meccaist dogs makes THE JOOOOOOOOS responsible. why? because the dogs of mecca see themselves as so stupid that they cannot function at all without JOOOOOOOOS telling them what to do and what SHOULD HAPPEN TO THEM

 

[georgephillip]

The Lebanese militia had convinced the IDF that there were 2,000 to 3,000 PLO militant still in the camps so when the Lebanese went in the Israeli soldiers expected to hear gunfire and other signs of battle. There is no reason to think that the Israeli soldiers or officers knew that the people being killed were mostly women, children and some elderly. It was a terrible error in judgment to trust the Lebanese militia.

There was no error in judgement of any kind.
Jews were watching the massacres unfold from fifty yards away.

"Israeli soldiers were on the roof of the Kuwait embassy nearby and could see what was happening in both camps. There is a mass of evidence to show that the Israelis knew that a massacre was in progress by Thursday evening but did nothing to stop it until Saturday morning."

"There is further evidence which indicates the extent of Israel's complicity in the massacre. The discovery in one of the camps of an Israeli sergeant's identity tag does not prove that he actually took part in the killing but it is significant that the Israeli army did not allow him to appear before the Israeli Commission of Enquiry.

"More importantly, the Israelis were prepared to assist their Phalangist allies in a number of different ways: they lent bulldozers so that the killers could bury some of the dead; they fired flares throughout the night of 16 September--at a rate of two a minute according to one Israeli soldier -- so that the killers could see what they were doing; worst of all, they prevented civilians from fleeing and forced those who tried back into the camps."

Why did the heroic Jews force women and children back into the camps?

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

Of course it was a mistake. It is foolish to pretend that Israel wanted this massacre. It obviously served no useful purpose and the reactions of both the Israeli government and the Israeli people after news of it came showed no one was more horrified by these events than the Israelis.

The useful purpose the massacres served was Ariel Sharon's need to avenge the murder of Bachir Gemayel, a useful Christian tool in expanding Greater Israel's northern border.

Whatever purpose Israel pursued in Sabra and Shatila in 1982, it was at least as useful as the deliberate killing of 34 US sailors and Marines aboard the USS Liberty in 1967.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

There was no error in judgement of any kind.
Jews were watching the massacres unfold from fifty yards away.

"Israeli soldiers were on the roof of the Kuwait embassy nearby and could see what was happening in both camps. There is a mass of evidence to show that the Israelis knew that a massacre was in progress by Thursday evening but did nothing to stop it until Saturday morning."

"There is further evidence which indicates the extent of Israel's complicity in the massacre. The discovery in one of the camps of an Israeli sergeant's identity tag does not prove that he actually took part in the killing but it is significant that the Israeli army did not allow him to appear before the Israeli Commission of Enquiry.

"More importantly, the Israelis were prepared to assist their Phalangist allies in a number of different ways: they lent bulldozers so that the killers could bury some of the dead; they fired flares throughout the night of 16 September--at a rate of two a minute according to one Israeli soldier -- so that the killers could see what they were doing; worst of all, they prevented civilians from fleeing and forced those who tried back into the camps."

Why did the heroic Jews force women and children back into the camps?

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

Of course it was a mistake. It is foolish to pretend that Israel wanted this massacre. It obviously served no useful purpose and the reactions of both the Israeli government and the Israeli people after news of it came showed no one was more horrified by these events than the Israelis.

The useful purpose the massacres served was Ariel Sharon's need to avenge the murder of Bachir Gemayel, a useful Christian tool in expanding Greater Israel's northern border.

Whatever purpose Israel pursued in Sabra and Shatila in 1982, it was at least as useful as the deliberate killing of 34 US sailors and Marines aboard the USS Liberty in 1967.

You know very well, georgie, that Israelis would never purposely kill Americans. That is the job of Arabs/Muslims, and they've done it by the thousands.

 

[georgephillip]

So far none of the islamo nazi pigs have provided ANYTHING to suggest that either Sharon or the IDF took part in or planned the massacre in Sabra and Shatilla -----and they certainly had absolutely nothing to do with the islamic rape and murder of little girls fest and of as many obscene for allah mutilations as they could manage in Damour The most the pigs can assert is THE JOOOOOOS WERE THERE ----which in the minds of the meccaist dogs makes THE JOOOOOOOOS responsible. why? because the dogs of mecca see themselves as so stupid that they cannot function at all without JOOOOOOOOS telling them what to do and what SHOULD HAPPEN TO THEM

Hasbarosie gets it wrong again.
Are you paid by the lie or the fallacy?

"On the morning of 18 September, Morris Draper, another of President Reagan's envoys dispatched to Beirut, sent a message to Sharon alleging Israeli responsibility: 'You must stop the massacres. They are obscene. I have an officer in the camp counting the bodies. You ought to be ashamed. They situation is rotten and terrible. They are killing children. You are in absolute control of the area, and therefore responsible for that area.'"

The IDF was the Occupying Power in West Beirut.
The (brain-dead) pig Sharon was in charge of the IDF.
Sharon's a war criminal who RICHLY deserves his fate.

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

 

[georgephillip]

Of course it was a mistake. It is foolish to pretend that Israel wanted this massacre. It obviously served no useful purpose and the reactions of both the Israeli government and the Israeli people after news of it came showed no one was more horrified by these events than the Israelis.

The useful purpose the massacres served was Ariel Sharon's need to avenge the murder of Bachir Gemayel, a useful Christian tool in expanding Greater Israel's northern border.

Whatever purpose Israel pursued in Sabra and Shatila in 1982, it was at least as useful as the deliberate killing of 34 US sailors and Marines aboard the USS Liberty in 1967.

You know very well, georgie, that Israelis would never purposely kill Americans. That is the job of Arabs/Muslims, and they've done it by the thousands.

Would you happen to know how many times the US Congressional Medal of Honor has been awarded in friendly fire incidents?

"McGonagle (Liberty's Captain) received the Medal of Honor, the highest U.S. medal, for his actions.[42][43] The Medal of Honor is generally presented by the President of the United States in the White House,[43][44] but this time it was awarded at the Washington Navy Yard by the Secretary of the Navy in an unpublicized ceremony, breaking with established tradition.[43]

"Other Liberty sailors received decorations for their actions during and after the attack, but most of the award citations omitted mention of Israel as the perpetrator. In 2009, however, a Silver Star awarded to crewmember Terry Halbardier, who braved machine-gun and cannon fire to repair a damaged antenna that restored the ship's communications, in the award citation named Israel as the attacker."

USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is not one single survivor of that attack who believes it was accidental.

As for the thousands of Americans killed by Muslims, all but three thousand would be alive today if they had refused to take part in a pair of illegal invasions of Muslim countries. And those who died on 911 perished because of decades of blind US support for the Jewish state.

 

[Hossfly]

So far none of the islamo nazi pigs have provided ANYTHING to suggest that either Sharon or the IDF took part in or planned the massacre in Sabra and Shatilla -----and they certainly had absolutely nothing to do with the islamic rape and murder of little girls fest and of as many obscene for allah mutilations as they could manage in Damour The most the pigs can assert is THE JOOOOOOS WERE THERE ----which in the minds of the meccaist dogs makes THE JOOOOOOOOS responsible. why? because the dogs of mecca see themselves as so stupid that they cannot function at all without JOOOOOOOOS telling them what to do and what SHOULD HAPPEN TO THEM

Hasbarosie gets it wrong again.
Are you paid by the lie or the fallacy?

"On the morning of 18 September, Morris Draper, another of President Reagan's envoys dispatched to Beirut, sent a message to Sharon alleging Israeli responsibility: 'You must stop the massacres. They are obscene. I have an officer in the camp counting the bodies. You ought to be ashamed. They situation is rotten and terrible. They are killing children. You are in absolute control of the area, and therefore responsible for that area.'"

The IDF was the Occupying Power in West Beirut.
The (brain-dead) pig Sharon was in charge of the IDF.
Sharon's a war criminal who RICHLY deserves his fate.

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

Of course Georgie, the shill for some Muslim group (I hope the pay is good because I hear living in Los Angeles is expensive), would never call those Muslims pigs who are responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people, now would you, Georgie? Let's face it -- Georgie can spend days on this one subject, but he will never ever bring up the murders committed by Muslims. Mums the word on those events -- whether they happened to the Armenians, the Hindus, the Christians and even other Muslims such as the event known as Black September and even what is happening in Syria these days. He can't even keep up with the events happening right now in today's world while he obsesses over this one thing because the Israelis were involved.

Sudanese regime bombs its own people in attack on bustling marketplace | Fox News

 

[georgephillip]

So far none of the islamo nazi pigs have provided ANYTHING to suggest that either Sharon or the IDF took part in or planned the massacre in Sabra and Shatilla -----and they certainly had absolutely nothing to do with the islamic rape and murder of little girls fest and of as many obscene for allah mutilations as they could manage in Damour The most the pigs can assert is THE JOOOOOOS WERE THERE ----which in the minds of the meccaist dogs makes THE JOOOOOOOOS responsible. why? because the dogs of mecca see themselves as so stupid that they cannot function at all without JOOOOOOOOS telling them what to do and what SHOULD HAPPEN TO THEM

Hasbarosie gets it wrong again.
Are you paid by the lie or the fallacy?

"On the morning of 18 September, Morris Draper, another of President Reagan's envoys dispatched to Beirut, sent a message to Sharon alleging Israeli responsibility: 'You must stop the massacres. They are obscene. I have an officer in the camp counting the bodies. You ought to be ashamed. They situation is rotten and terrible. They are killing children. You are in absolute control of the area, and therefore responsible for that area.'"

The IDF was the Occupying Power in West Beirut.
The (brain-dead) pig Sharon was in charge of the IDF.
Sharon's a war criminal who RICHLY deserves his fate.

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

Of course Georgie, the shill for some Muslim group (I hope the pay is good because I hear living in Los Angeles is expensive), would never call those Muslims pigs who are responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people, now would you, Georgie? Let's face it -- Georgie can spend days on this one subject, but he will never ever bring up the murders committed by Muslims. Mums the word on those events -- whether they happened to the Armenians, the Hindus, the Christians and even other Muslims such as the event known as Black September and even what is happening in Syria these days. He can't even keep up with the events happening right now in today's world while he obsesses over this one thing because the Israelis were involved.

Sudanese regime bombs its own people in attack on bustling marketplace | Fox News

From your link:

"The attack came even as al-Bashir, who is wanted for genocide by the International Criminal Court, and his South Sudan counterpart, Salva Kiir, were meeting in Ethiopia to reach a deal to allow oil to flow across the vague border separating the nations, which were divided last year amid an ongoing and bloody civil war."

Sudanese regime bombs its own people in attack on bustling marketplace | Fox News

I suppose it's expecting too much from conservatives to make the connection between corporate control of Arab oil today and the first British military governor of Jerusalem in 1922 longing for a little loyal Jewish Ulster in the heart of Arab oil?

 

[irosie91]

I suppose it's expecting too much from conservatives to make the connection between corporate control of Arab oil today and the first British military governor of Jerusalem in 1922 longing for a little loyal Jewish Ulster in the heart of Arab oil?


I suppose its too much to ask ----that georgie grasp the fact that when the OTTOMANS seeking to SELL LAND for---<gasp> money decided to mitigate the shit of shariah which denies jews INCLUDING JEWS BORN IN PALESTINE or in any country in the grip of the shit of shariah------it was the OTTOMANS who------facilitated the FAIT ACCOMPLI which was the state of Israel LONG BEFORE 1922

poor georgie----he cannot bring himself to blame it on those really responsible-----THE OTTOMANS WANTED MONEY FOR THE LAND THEY OWNED that land they could not sell to muslims and -----even if muslims lived on it and used it-----NEVER PAID TAXES---poor georgie. But its not oil that bothers georgie----its the loss of his favorite------SHARIAH LAW ---LEGALIZED RAPE----LEGALIZED ENSLAVEMENT OF CHILDREN

 

[Hossfly]

Hasbarosie gets it wrong again.
Are you paid by the lie or the fallacy?

"On the morning of 18 September, Morris Draper, another of President Reagan's envoys dispatched to Beirut, sent a message to Sharon alleging Israeli responsibility: 'You must stop the massacres. They are obscene. I have an officer in the camp counting the bodies. You ought to be ashamed. They situation is rotten and terrible. They are killing children. You are in absolute control of the area, and therefore responsible for that area.'"

The IDF was the Occupying Power in West Beirut.
The (brain-dead) pig Sharon was in charge of the IDF.
Sharon's a war criminal who RICHLY deserves his fate.

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

Of course Georgie, the shill for some Muslim group (I hope the pay is good because I hear living in Los Angeles is expensive), would never call those Muslims pigs who are responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people, now would you, Georgie? Let's face it -- Georgie can spend days on this one subject, but he will never ever bring up the murders committed by Muslims. Mums the word on those events -- whether they happened to the Armenians, the Hindus, the Christians and even other Muslims such as the event known as Black September and even what is happening in Syria these days. He can't even keep up with the events happening right now in today's world while he obsesses over this one thing because the Israelis were involved.

Sudanese regime bombs its own people in attack on bustling marketplace | Fox News

From your link:

"The attack came even as al-Bashir, who is wanted for genocide by the International Criminal Court, and his South Sudan counterpart, Salva Kiir, were meeting in Ethiopia to reach a deal to allow oil to flow across the vague border separating the nations, which were divided last year amid an ongoing and bloody civil war."

Sudanese regime bombs its own people in attack on bustling marketplace | Fox News

I suppose it's expecting too much from conservatives to make the connection between corporate control of Arab oil today and the first British military governor of Jerusalem in 1922 longing for a little loyal Jewish Ulster in the heart of Arab oil?

I fail to connect your rambling about oil to a civilian market being bombed by the Government.

 

[Hossfly]

Hasbarosie gets it wrong again.
Are you paid by the lie or the fallacy?

"On the morning of 18 September, Morris Draper, another of President Reagan's envoys dispatched to Beirut, sent a message to Sharon alleging Israeli responsibility: 'You must stop the massacres. They are obscene. I have an officer in the camp counting the bodies. You ought to be ashamed. They situation is rotten and terrible. They are killing children. You are in absolute control of the area, and therefore responsible for that area.'"

The IDF was the Occupying Power in West Beirut.
The (brain-dead) pig Sharon was in charge of the IDF.
Sharon's a war criminal who RICHLY deserves his fate.

On the 29th anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacre | Mondoweiss

Of course Georgie, the shill for some Muslim group (I hope the pay is good because I hear living in Los Angeles is expensive), would never call those Muslims pigs who are responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people, now would you, Georgie? Let's face it -- Georgie can spend days on this one subject, but he will never ever bring up the murders committed by Muslims. Mums the word on those events -- whether they happened to the Armenians, the Hindus, the Christians and even other Muslims such as the event known as Black September and even what is happening in Syria these days. He can't even keep up with the events happening right now in today's world while he obsesses over this one thing because the Israelis were involved.

Sudanese regime bombs its own people in attack on bustling marketplace | Fox News

From your link:

"The attack came even as al-Bashir, who is wanted for genocide by the International Criminal Court, and his South Sudan counterpart, Salva Kiir, were meeting in Ethiopia to reach a deal to allow oil to flow across the vague border separating the nations, which were divided last year amid an ongoing and bloody civil war."

Sudanese regime bombs its own people in attack on bustling marketplace | Fox News

I suppose it's expecting too much from conservatives to make the connection between corporate control of Arab oil today and the first British military governor of Jerusalem in 1922 longing for a little loyal Jewish Ulster in the heart of Arab oil?

It looks like Georgie is being a good Muslim today. He can never blame Muslim leaders for murdering their own people. Will he even blame the Christians for the Sudanese murdering over 2,000,000 of them? No doubt, if he could figure out a way, he will blame the millions of Hindus for their being murdered by the Muslims in Bangladesh. Since Georgie brought up the British, who does he think noticed that the Arabs were coming in hordes from their surrounding impoverished countries when the Jews had jobs for them? Anyhow, it is nice that Christian Southern Sudan has broken away, and we all hope for the best for them in the future. By the way, Georgie, even though the President of Sudan was out of the country, there are still ways he could have ordered the bombing of his own people.

 

[irosie91]

so georgie------is suggesting that a COMMANDING OFFICER in a foreign land-----if faced with a conflict between TWO FACTIONS IN THAT FOREIGN LAND -------must intervene ----thus risking the lives of his men------for the sake of a DOMESTIC DISPUTE in the foreign land

keep in mind posters GEORGIE CLAIMS ----that if american troops enter PAKISTAN and some sunnis and shiites are KILLING each other---------an american general MUST order HIS AMERICAN TROOPS into the FRAY to save one side of the other

AMERICAN SOLDIERS YOU MUST DIE TO SAVE THE SHIITES OF KARACHI!!!!!!!

go to hell georgie If I were a commanding officer in Pakistan over american troops ------I would not send them to their deaths to keep AHMAD FROM MURDERING AHMAD

 

[georgephillip]

so georgie------is suggesting that a COMMANDING OFFICER in a foreign land-----if faced with a conflict between TWO FACTIONS IN THAT FOREIGN LAND -------must intervene ----thus risking the lives of his men------for the sake of a DOMESTIC DISPUTE in the foreign land

keep in mind posters GEORGIE CLAIMS ----that if american troops enter PAKISTAN and some sunnis and shiites are KILLING each other---------an american general MUST order HIS AMERICAN TROOPS into the FRAY to save one side of the other

AMERICAN SOLDIERS YOU MUST DIE TO SAVE THE SHIITES OF KARACHI!!!!!!!

go to hell georgie If I were a commanding officer in Pakistan over american troops ------I would not send them to their deaths to keep AHMAD FROM MURDERING AHMAD

The COMMANDING OFFICER of an OCCUPYING POWER is responsible for everything that occurs within the territory his forces OCCUPY. International law required Sharon to stop the war crimes in Sabra and Shatila since they would NOT have been occurring without the Israeli presence.

Putting a mindless drone like you in charge of the US military would ensure SHARIA LAW in America within a generation.