Sanders pushes to give Americans a paid vacation

[SAYIT]

Would it shock you to consider that whether or not I get a paid vacation is between me and my employer, and none of the government's business?

No but if you didn't get it you would be singing a very different tune.

If she didn't get a package she liked, she would work elsewhere. It's called FREEDOM.

 

[CowboyTed]

Venezuela: Workers are entitled to enjoy 15 days of paid annual leave in the first year plus one day for each year of service with the same employer up to a maximum of 15 extra days.[5]
United states: There is no statutory minimum.

Woo ... you sure can pick 'em:
As recently as 2013, the socialist gov't of Venezuela was unable to deliver milk, flour and other staples to its people despite the country's vast oil wealth and as of December 2014, Venezuela's inflation rate was 68.5%. The solution? Plenty of "free" money for everyone! WooHoo!

All I'm doing is showing the workers leave, that's it, I can just throw up Norway/the uk/etc if you want.

What I'm saying is there is no free lunch and all socialist gov'ts become far less attractive once they run out of OPC (Other People's Cash) to spend on YOUR favorite freebies. I guess next you'll tout the virtues of Greece and Syriza. Wait ... maybe not, eh?

That is making its way up the clueless post of the year...
UK has 28 days mandatory holidays and 9 public ones...
Now start again on your socialist crap...

I'm not certain what your point is but I don't take orders from raging idiots. The UK is not a socialist state but rather a welfare state where the means of production can be (and mostly is) privately owned and operated. The nature of the discussion was Socialist's favorable (yet ridiculous) comparison of Cuba and Venezuela to the US.
One of the wonderful rights we Americans enjoy is the right to relocate. I suggest you find a "Worker's Paradise" that satisfies your need for vacation time and move there.

Have the same right in EU (Europe)... The point I am making is in Europe they don't go on all day talking about family values but they get out and support the family. What they are doing is leveling the playing field... By introducing minimum standards they are raising the bar for families.

Look at Health and Safety from 40 years ago and look at the work place accidents now.

100 of thousands lives saved... Father and Mothers...


So the next time some one asks where are the parents, they are probably at work trying to keep there job.

 

[CowboyTed]

The US while talking a big game on Family Values are complete hypocrites when having to pay for it...

"Family Values" does not refer to the number of babies produced.

And neither is what I was saying... It is about allowing parents to be able to raise there kids... Europe supports that while US policy is to hinder that while talking about family values...

So talk about moral values and discipline all you like but when it comes to paying for it, the family values guys shy out... Thus hypocrites

 

[M14 Shooter]

So talk about moral values and discipline all you like but when it comes to paying for it, the family values guys shy out... Thus hypocrites

"Family values guys" expect people to be responsible with and for bringing up their kids.
This includes paying for them - they're you're YOUR kids; YOU, and no one else, are responsible for taking care of them.

 

[BluesLegend]

I work for a corporation that oppresses their workers, they only give us 4 weeks of paid vacation, plus paid sick time, paid short and long term disability, and 14 paid holidays /SARCASM

 

[SAYIT]

One of the wonderful rights we Americans enjoy is the right to relocate. I suggest you find a "Worker's Paradise" that satisfies your need for vacation time and move there.

Have the same right in EU (Europe)... The point I am making is in Europe they don't go on all day talking about family values...

Nor do we here in America rendering your "point" a Straw Man argument.

 

[The Rabbi]

Woo ... you sure can pick 'em:
As recently as 2013, the socialist gov't of Venezuela was unable to deliver milk, flour and other staples to its people despite the country's vast oil wealth and as of December 2014, Venezuela's inflation rate was 68.5%. The solution? Plenty of "free" money for everyone! WooHoo!

All I'm doing is showing the workers leave, that's it, I can just throw up Norway/the uk/etc if you want.

What I'm saying is there is no free lunch and all socialist gov'ts become far less attractive once they run out of OPC (Other People's Cash) to spend on YOUR favorite freebies. I guess next you'll tout the virtues of Greece and Syriza. Wait ... maybe not, eh?

That is making its way up the clueless post of the year...
UK has 28 days mandatory holidays and 9 public ones...
Now start again on your socialist crap...

I'm not certain what your point is but I don't take orders from raging idiots. The UK is not a socialist state but rather a welfare state where the means of production can be (and mostly is) privately owned and operated. The nature of the discussion was Socialist's favorable (yet ridiculous) comparison of Cuba and Venezuela to the US.
One of the wonderful rights we Americans enjoy is the right to relocate. I suggest you find a "Worker's Paradise" that satisfies your need for vacation time and move there.

Have the same right in EU (Europe)... The point I am making is in Europe they don't go on all day talking about family values but they get out and support the family. What they are doing is leveling the playing field... By introducing minimum standards they are raising the bar for families.

Look at Health and Safety from 40 years ago and look at the work place accidents now.

View attachment 42614
100 of thousands lives saved... Father and Mothers...


So the next time some one asks where are the parents, they are probably at work trying to keep there job.

You understand most of that is probably because the more dangerous manufacturing jobs have been replaced by less dangerous office jobs, right?

 

[SAYIT]

The US while talking a big game on Family Values are complete hypocrites when having to pay for it...

"Family Values" does not refer to the number of babies produced.

And neither is what I was saying... It is about allowing parents to be able to raise there kids... Europe supports that while US policy is to hinder that while talking about family values... So talk about moral values and discipline all you like but when it comes to paying for it, the family values guys shy out... Thus hypocrites

See if you can find any post in which I mention either moral values or discipline. Again you engage in a Straw Man argument.

 

[CowboyTed]

All I'm doing is showing the workers leave, that's it, I can just throw up Norway/the uk/etc if you want.

What I'm saying is there is no free lunch and all socialist gov'ts become far less attractive once they run out of OPC (Other People's Cash) to spend on YOUR favorite freebies. I guess next you'll tout the virtues of Greece and Syriza. Wait ... maybe not, eh?

That is making its way up the clueless post of the year...
UK has 28 days mandatory holidays and 9 public ones...
Now start again on your socialist crap...

I'm not certain what your point is but I don't take orders from raging idiots. The UK is not a socialist state but rather a welfare state where the means of production can be (and mostly is) privately owned and operated. The nature of the discussion was Socialist's favorable (yet ridiculous) comparison of Cuba and Venezuela to the US.
One of the wonderful rights we Americans enjoy is the right to relocate. I suggest you find a "Worker's Paradise" that satisfies your need for vacation time and move there.

Have the same right in EU (Europe)... The point I am making is in Europe they don't go on all day talking about family values but they get out and support the family. What they are doing is leveling the playing field... By introducing minimum standards they are raising the bar for families.

Look at Health and Safety from 40 years ago and look at the work place accidents now.

View attachment 42614
100 of thousands lives saved... Father and Mothers...


So the next time some one asks where are the parents, they are probably at work trying to keep there job.

You understand most of that is probably because the more dangerous manufacturing jobs have been replaced by less dangerous office jobs, right?

Prove it... I will produce the number of papers proving wrong then...

 

[Broncho4]

Fuck, look at cuba: Every worker is entitled to enjoy one month of paid annual leave after 11 months of effective work. Workers are also entitled to 9 paid public holidays.[5]

And people are leaving that country in rafts to come here?!?!?!? I wonder why that is...

 

[CowboyTed]

So talk about moral values and discipline all you like but when it comes to paying for it, the family values guys shy out... Thus hypocrites

"Family values guys" expect people to be responsible with and for bringing up their kids.
This includes paying for them - they're you're YOUR kids; YOU, and no one else, are responsible for taking care of them.

How can they when you have given no holidays and no parental leave...

Same stuff every time, the anti family guys use every time. You are probably a guy who sits in front of a TV and gives out about kids on the street... Where are there parents? (AT WORK)

The US is the only one that hasn't joined the dots... They want parents raising their kids but want to have no hand in making that possible. EU has on this years ago, in France a parent by right is allowed to work 80% of the week for 80% of the money. Proper mandatory holidays and mandatory maternity leave...

Maternity leave is especially sick one. The economic forced separation of a mother from a baby at that time is just plain sick...

Could you do at least one thing next Mother's day, meet your mother and tell her how you don't believe she deserved maternity leave when she had you...

Hypocrites...

 

[SwimExpert]

Every American can give themselves a week of paid vacation with this simple and easy to use plan:

1 - Save money so that you can not work for a week and still pay all your expenses.
2 - Take off for a week.

 

[CowboyTed]

Every American can give themselves a week of paid vacation with this simple and easy to use plan:

1 - Save money so that you can not work for a week and still pay all your expenses.
2 - Take off for a week.

Employer doesn't have to give you the week off. Many employers don't want hassle of finding replacement staff.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So talk about moral values and discipline all you like but when it comes to paying for it, the family values guys shy out... Thus hypocrites

"Family values guys" expect people to be responsible with and for bringing up their kids.
This includes paying for them - they're you're YOUR kids; YOU, and no one else, are responsible for taking care of them.

How can they when you have given no holidays and no parental leave...

No one other than you are responsible for your child's food, water, shelter, clothing health care, education and well being.
How do you provide things w/o paid vacation?
You work.

 

[SwimExpert]

Every American can give themselves a week of paid vacation with this simple and easy to use plan:

1 - Save money so that you can not work for a week and still pay all your expenses.
2 - Take off for a week.

Employer doesn't have to give you the week off. Many employers don't want hassle of finding replacement staff.

Here in the real world, pretty much any employer will provide their employees with reasonable opportunities to take time off for vacations. It might not be paid, and there might be some blackout dates depending on your industry. But any manager worth two shits knows that people will need time off occasionally. An employer fails to do this will not retain employees very long.

 

[CowboyTed]

Every American can give themselves a week of paid vacation with this simple and easy to use plan:

1 - Save money so that you can not work for a week and still pay all your expenses.
2 - Take off for a week.

Employer doesn't have to give you the week off. Many employers don't want hassle of finding replacement staff.

Here in the real world, pretty much any employer will provide their employees with reasonable opportunities to take time off for vacations. It might not be paid, and there might be some blackout dates depending on your industry. But any manager worth two shits knows that people will need time off occasionally. An employer fails to do this will not retain employees very long.

But it is not legally obliged... You have no legal standing...

 

[M14 Shooter]

But it is not legally obliged...

Of course it isn't - you have no right to a job, much less to a paid vacation.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This is fantastic.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) wants to give Americans a paid vacation, as part of a "family values" agenda he outlined Thursday.

Sanders, who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, said he is introducing a bill, the Guaranteed Paid Vacation Act, that would give 10 days of paid vacation to every employee that had worked for an employer for at least one year. The legislation would apply to employers with at least 15 employees.

"What family values are about is that at least for two weeks a year, people can come together under a relaxed environment and enjoy the family," Sanders said from the Senate floor. "That is a family value that I want to see happen in this country."

The legislation is part of the senator's "family values agenda." As part of the agenda, he also backed legislation that would give an employee 12 weeks of paid leave if they have a child or serious medical condition, as well as a separate bill that would give workers up to seven paid sick days.

On his support for paid sick leave, Sanders added, "I am not crazy about the idea of somebody who is sick coming to to work, preparing the food that I eat in a restaurant."

While Republicans had previously discussed "family values," Sanders said that "generally speaking, what they mean by family values is opposition to a woman's right to choose, opposition to contraception, opposition to gay rights."

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Sanders pushes to give Americans a paid vacation TheHill

He's going to pay for it out of his own pocket?

Oh wait, he is going to rob some people at gun point to buy the votes of other people with the money he stole...

 

[Uncensored2008]

And who's gonna pay for it? Oh, wait, let me guess. Somebody else?

Armed robbery - it's THE foundation of socialism...

 

[CowboyTed]

So talk about moral values and discipline all you like but when it comes to paying for it, the family values guys shy out... Thus hypocrites

"Family values guys" expect people to be responsible with and for bringing up their kids.
This includes paying for them - they're you're YOUR kids; YOU, and no one else, are responsible for taking care of them.

How can they when you have given no holidays and no parental leave...

No one other than you are responsible for your child's food, water, shelter, clothing health care, education and well being.
How do you provide things w/o paid vacation?
You work.

I didn't even say paid vacation... I am saying any vacation at all... Employers are not legally obliged to give any days off...

I don't think you get it... The US is the only place with this poor conditions for workers....