Sandy Hook families can sue gun manufacturers.

Should crime victims be able to sue gun manufacturers?


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Lets try to decipher slow-witted, right wingers' "logic"......

Any.....and I mean ANY drug dealer could pose a "defense" when caught by stating, "Hey, I only sell the stuff, how people who buy it use it, is THEIR concern, not mine...."

Now, the same slow-witted, right wingers will counter....."But, NO, drugs are illegal and THAT is why a drug dealer should/must be arrested and charged..."

The counter argument is blown apart, when we return to the original argument posed by this thread; i.e., a judge found enough evidence to conclude that a lawsuit against the gun manufacturer should be allowed to proceed and that case law would set a precedent against the indiscriminate sale of weapons which could basically be labeled, WMDs since their only true purpose is to kill as many people as possible in the shortest time possible.

Except for one crucial difference. Manufacturing weapons is not illegal and gun ownership is a constitutional right. :)

Now, now.....don't confuse Natalie with facts. She isn't quick enough to understand truth and logic. For instance, she has had her ass kicked repeatedly in this thread for days now and she actually thinks she is winning. I don't like to use the word retarded, but........
 
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Except, with respect....that is not accurate....322 is the number for all rifles combined....AR-15s in particular are responsible for incredibly less than that...if that on any given year.......
 
Are you for outlawing all guns?

Now, here's a rational question......The answer is NO...NO....NO......All that this thread was aiming at is the banning of sale of such guns that are STRICTLY for either making some idiots feel more manly.....and/or to kill as many people in the least amount of time.


Nope...wrong...they are great weapons for civilian defense, competition, plinking, collecting and tinkering.....and since 3,750,000 of them are in private hands and not used for any kind of crime.....there is no reason to ban them.....and if the police and military have them...we need them too...the Germans tried allowing only the police and military to have guns....and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children all through Europe....and just across our border with Mexico.....only the police and military get rifles...and the government and the drug cartels are murdering Mexican citizens in the thousands every year...

So yes...we need AR-15s for all sorts of reasons...........
Never mind nat and his comrade joe... They have an strange obsession of penis. They are Constantly bringing it up in their posts.
Very strange...
Lol
 
Here's What the Mainstream Media WON'T Tell You About Mass Shootings - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

There are about 319 million people in the United States, so that means there are about 118 million gun owners in this nation.

The “Mass Shooting Tracker” counts any incident where four or more people are shot, whether fatally or not, as a mass shooting. For 2015 so far, this tracker counts 294 incidents — of those, there are names for only 45 of the shooters, which leads me to believe the others are gang or crime related. But let’s assume for a moment all 294 shooters were actually law-abiding, legal gun owners.

That means, out of 118 million gun owners, 249 or .00025 percent of the gun-owning population are potential mass shooters.

Of course, now the gun control activists are out in force. Any person who legally owns a gun must be a certified nut bag.

It is a sad truth that there are likely more mentally ill individuals in our nation who will one day get their hands on guns, legally or illegally, and take the lives of some innocent souls.


But some perspective is needed.

According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, 375 individuals have been killed during a mass shooting in 2015.

Now compare that number to 10,076. According to MADD, that’s the number of people killed during drunk driving crashes in 2013 alone. In fact, every day in America, another 28 people die in drunk driving crashes. Every. Single. Day.

Using the liberal logic of banning guns because of tragic (and thankfully, comparatively rare) mass shootings undertaken by crazy white folks (and some not so white), should we not then ban cars?

Cars clearly cause many more fatalities in terms of numbers each day than whack nuts with a gun.


The mass shooting tracker is an anti gun lying site.....they use any shooting as a mass shooting including gang bangers shooting each other at a party over a craps game...check the list of incidents...the majority are crimes by criminals.....that is why the FBI does not include criminal behavior in public mass shooting counts...
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Mother JOnes actually counted mass shootings going back to the 90s....last year there were 4....2 of them were muslim terrorists.......I'll get it...
 
Here's What the Mainstream Media WON'T Tell You About Mass Shootings - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

There are about 319 million people in the United States, so that means there are about 118 million gun owners in this nation.

The “Mass Shooting Tracker” counts any incident where four or more people are shot, whether fatally or not, as a mass shooting. For 2015 so far, this tracker counts 294 incidents — of those, there are names for only 45 of the shooters, which leads me to believe the others are gang or crime related. But let’s assume for a moment all 294 shooters were actually law-abiding, legal gun owners.

That means, out of 118 million gun owners, 249 or .00025 percent of the gun-owning population are potential mass shooters.

Of course, now the gun control activists are out in force. Any person who legally owns a gun must be a certified nut bag.

It is a sad truth that there are likely more mentally ill individuals in our nation who will one day get their hands on guns, legally or illegally, and take the lives of some innocent souls.


But some perspective is needed.

According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, 375 individuals have been killed during a mass shooting in 2015.

Now compare that number to 10,076. According to MADD, that’s the number of people killed during drunk driving crashes in 2013 alone. In fact, every day in America, another 28 people die in drunk driving crashes. Every. Single. Day.

Using the liberal logic of banning guns because of tragic (and thankfully, comparatively rare) mass shootings undertaken by crazy white folks (and some not so white), should we not then ban cars?

Cars clearly cause many more fatalities in terms of numbers each day than whack nuts with a gun.


Here you go...the actual count...never trust Mass Shooting Tracker....

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


2015....4

2014....2

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985...0

1984...2

1983...0

1982...1
 
Here's What the Mainstream Media WON'T Tell You About Mass Shootings - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

There are about 319 million people in the United States, so that means there are about 118 million gun owners in this nation.

The “Mass Shooting Tracker” counts any incident where four or more people are shot, whether fatally or not, as a mass shooting. For 2015 so far, this tracker counts 294 incidents — of those, there are names for only 45 of the shooters, which leads me to believe the others are gang or crime related. But let’s assume for a moment all 294 shooters were actually law-abiding, legal gun owners.

That means, out of 118 million gun owners, 249 or .00025 percent of the gun-owning population are potential mass shooters.

Of course, now the gun control activists are out in force. Any person who legally owns a gun must be a certified nut bag.

It is a sad truth that there are likely more mentally ill individuals in our nation who will one day get their hands on guns, legally or illegally, and take the lives of some innocent souls.


But some perspective is needed.

According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, 375 individuals have been killed during a mass shooting in 2015.

Now compare that number to 10,076. According to MADD, that’s the number of people killed during drunk driving crashes in 2013 alone. In fact, every day in America, another 28 people die in drunk driving crashes. Every. Single. Day.

Using the liberal logic of banning guns because of tragic (and thankfully, comparatively rare) mass shootings undertaken by crazy white folks (and some not so white), should we not then ban cars?

Cars clearly cause many more fatalities in terms of numbers each day than whack nuts with a gun.


Here is the casualty count from the Mother JOnes research...I love Mother JOnes.....an anti gun, left wing site.......and the left wing gun grabbers have to deny their facts.....

Here is the left wing news source...Mother Jones...they hate guns, ..they too have tracked mass shootings...and here is what they found...

If you go to the link they list each year and the specific mass shootings with details....injured, killed, weapons used.....

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Sooooo....


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation



How many deaths on average according to Mother Jones...anti gun, uber left wing Mother Jones.......each year, well less than 73.

2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Deaths from mass shootings 2015..... 37


Accidental gun deaths 2013......505


Those are the numbers of deaths from mass shootings in the United States.....and even in the big year, 2012, they didn't break 72 deaths by mass shooters.

How many guns are there in American hands....357 million.

How many people carry guns for self defense...over 13 million.
 
Are you for outlawing all guns?

Now, here's a rational question......The answer is NO...NO....NO......All that this thread was aiming at is the banning of sale of such guns that are STRICTLY for either making some idiots feel more manly.....and/or to kill as many people in the least amount of time.


Nope...wrong...they are great weapons for civilian defense, competition, plinking, collecting and tinkering.....and since 3,750,000 of them are in private hands and not used for any kind of crime.....there is no reason to ban them.....and if the police and military have them...we need them too...the Germans tried allowing only the police and military to have guns....and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children all through Europe....and just across our border with Mexico.....only the police and military get rifles...and the government and the drug cartels are murdering Mexican citizens in the thousands every year...

So yes...we need AR-15s for all sorts of reasons...........
Never mind nat and his comrade joe... They have an strange obsession of penis. They are Constantly bringing it up in their posts.
Very strange...
Lol

They probably want to outlaw penises too . . because theirs are too small. :D Lol.
 


Except, with respect....that is not accurate....322 is the number for all rifles combined....AR-15s in particular are responsible for incredibly less than that...if that on any given year.......
My bad...
But to be fair progressives don't know the difference between any firearm... They stick their head in the sand when you try to point that out to them… It's a lost cause. LOL
 
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Here's What the Mainstream Media WON'T Tell You About Mass Shootings - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

There are about 319 million people in the United States, so that means there are about 118 million gun owners in this nation.

The “Mass Shooting Tracker” counts any incident where four or more people are shot, whether fatally or not, as a mass shooting. For 2015 so far, this tracker counts 294 incidents — of those, there are names for only 45 of the shooters, which leads me to believe the others are gang or crime related. But let’s assume for a moment all 294 shooters were actually law-abiding, legal gun owners.

That means, out of 118 million gun owners, 249 or .00025 percent of the gun-owning population are potential mass shooters.

Of course, now the gun control activists are out in force. Any person who legally owns a gun must be a certified nut bag.

It is a sad truth that there are likely more mentally ill individuals in our nation who will one day get their hands on guns, legally or illegally, and take the lives of some innocent souls.


But some perspective is needed.

According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, 375 individuals have been killed during a mass shooting in 2015.

Now compare that number to 10,076. According to MADD, that’s the number of people killed during drunk driving crashes in 2013 alone. In fact, every day in America, another 28 people die in drunk driving crashes. Every. Single. Day.

Using the liberal logic of banning guns because of tragic (and thankfully, comparatively rare) mass shootings undertaken by crazy white folks (and some not so white), should we not then ban cars?

Cars clearly cause many more fatalities in terms of numbers each day than whack nuts with a gun.


Here is the casualty count from the Mother JOnes research...I love Mother JOnes.....an anti gun, left wing site.......and the left wing gun grabbers have to deny their facts.....

Here is the left wing news source...Mother Jones...they hate guns, ..they too have tracked mass shootings...and here is what they found...

If you go to the link they list each year and the specific mass shootings with details....injured, killed, weapons used.....

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Sooooo....


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation



How many deaths on average according to Mother Jones...anti gun, uber left wing Mother Jones.......each year, well less than 73.

2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Deaths from mass shootings 2015..... 37


Accidental gun deaths 2013......505


Those are the numbers of deaths from mass shootings in the United States.....and even in the big year, 2012, they didn't break 72 deaths by mass shooters.

How many guns are there in American hands....357 million.

How many people carry guns for self defense...over 13 million.
That's why anyone with any common sense can see so-called "gun" violence is a non-issue… Criminal control is what needs to be done.
It's not about "gun" control… It's about "control" in general - like forcing stupid ass Obama care on everybody. Progressives can never change their spots - control freaks all. Lol
 
Are you for outlawing all guns?

Now, here's a rational question......The answer is NO...NO....NO......All that this thread was aiming at is the banning of sale of such guns that are STRICTLY for either making some idiots feel more manly.....and/or to kill as many people in the least amount of time.


Nope...wrong...they are great weapons for civilian defense, competition, plinking, collecting and tinkering.....and since 3,750,000 of them are in private hands and not used for any kind of crime.....there is no reason to ban them.....and if the police and military have them...we need them too...the Germans tried allowing only the police and military to have guns....and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children all through Europe....and just across our border with Mexico.....only the police and military get rifles...and the government and the drug cartels are murdering Mexican citizens in the thousands every year...

So yes...we need AR-15s for all sorts of reasons...........
Never mind nat and his comrade joe... They have an strange obsession of penis. They are Constantly bringing it up in their posts.
Very strange...
Lol

They probably want to outlaw penises too . . because theirs are too small. :D Lol.
Heres a story for nat and comrade joe... On their obsessive, compulsive subject they are always posting about.

Redback spider bites Australian man on penis - BBC News
 
Are you for outlawing all guns?

Now, here's a rational question......The answer is NO...NO....NO......All that this thread was aiming at is the banning of sale of such guns that are STRICTLY for either making some idiots feel more manly.....and/or to kill as many people in the least amount of time.


Nope...wrong...they are great weapons for civilian defense, competition, plinking, collecting and tinkering.....and since 3,750,000 of them are in private hands and not used for any kind of crime.....there is no reason to ban them.....and if the police and military have them...we need them too...the Germans tried allowing only the police and military to have guns....and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children all through Europe....and just across our border with Mexico.....only the police and military get rifles...and the government and the drug cartels are murdering Mexican citizens in the thousands every year...

So yes...we need AR-15s for all sorts of reasons...........
Never mind nat and his comrade joe... They have an strange obsession of penis. They are Constantly bringing it up in their posts.
Very strange...
Lol

They probably want to outlaw penises too . . because theirs are too small. :D Lol.
Heres a story for nat and comrade joe... On their obsessive, compulsive subject they are always posting about.

Redback spider bites Australian man on penis - BBC News

Yeesh, that is disgusting and very disturbing. Lol.
 
Now, here's a rational question......The answer is NO...NO....NO......All that this thread was aiming at is the banning of sale of such guns that are STRICTLY for either making some idiots feel more manly.....and/or to kill as many people in the least amount of time.


Nope...wrong...they are great weapons for civilian defense, competition, plinking, collecting and tinkering.....and since 3,750,000 of them are in private hands and not used for any kind of crime.....there is no reason to ban them.....and if the police and military have them...we need them too...the Germans tried allowing only the police and military to have guns....and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children all through Europe....and just across our border with Mexico.....only the police and military get rifles...and the government and the drug cartels are murdering Mexican citizens in the thousands every year...

So yes...we need AR-15s for all sorts of reasons...........
Never mind nat and his comrade joe... They have an strange obsession of penis. They are Constantly bringing it up in their posts.
Very strange...
Lol

They probably want to outlaw penises too . . because theirs are too small. :D Lol.
Heres a story for nat and comrade joe... On their obsessive, compulsive subject they are always posting about.

Redback spider bites Australian man on penis - BBC News

Yeesh, that is disgusting and very disturbing. Lol.
Is that "assaulting" the weapon or the other way around...
 
Nope...wrong...they are great weapons for civilian defense, competition, plinking, collecting and tinkering.....and since 3,750,000 of them are in private hands and not used for any kind of crime.....there is no reason to ban them.....and if the police and military have them...we need them too...the Germans tried allowing only the police and military to have guns....and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children all through Europe....and just across our border with Mexico.....only the police and military get rifles...and the government and the drug cartels are murdering Mexican citizens in the thousands every year...

So yes...we need AR-15s for all sorts of reasons...........
Never mind nat and his comrade joe... They have an strange obsession of penis. They are Constantly bringing it up in their posts.
Very strange...
Lol

They probably want to outlaw penises too . . because theirs are too small. :D Lol.
Heres a story for nat and comrade joe... On their obsessive, compulsive subject they are always posting about.

Redback spider bites Australian man on penis - BBC News

Yeesh, that is disgusting and very disturbing. Lol.
Is that "assaulting" the weapon or the other way around...

Hard to say. :lol:
 
Is there a constitutional right to smoke?

It's not explicitly protected the way speech, religion, and TRTBA are, but there is nothing in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to stop people from smoking.

Of course you Khmer Rouge types are openly attacking the right of speech, religion, and TRTBA anyway. Ending the BOR is job one for democrats.
 
Is there a constitutional right to smoke?

It's not explicitly protected the way speech, religion, and TRTBA are, but there is nothing in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to stop people from smoking.

Of course you Khmer Rouge types are openly attacking the right of speech, religion, and TRTBA anyway. Ending the BOR is job one for democrats.

:cuckoo:

There is no right to smoke in the constitution. Again, you say nothing worthwhile, just lies. Nowhere do I fight against freedom of speech, religion or anything else, internut.
 
Lets try to decipher slow-witted, right wingers' "logic"......

Any.....and I mean ANY drug dealer could pose a "defense" when caught by stating, "Hey, I only sell the stuff, how people who buy it use it, is THEIR concern, not mine...."

Now, the same slow-witted, right wingers will counter....."But, NO, drugs are illegal and THAT is why a drug dealer should/must be arrested and charged..."

The counter argument is blown apart, when we return to the original argument posed by this thread; i.e., a judge found enough evidence to conclude that a lawsuit against the gun manufacturer should be allowed to proceed and that case law would set a precedent against the indiscriminate sale of weapons which could basically be labeled, WMDs since their only true purpose is to kill as many people as possible in the shortest time possible.

Wait stupid, you think drug dealers face murder charges when their customers OD? :eek:

You're sure are dumb, gnat.. :lmao:
 
:cuckoo:

There is no right to smoke in the constitution. Again, you say nothing worthwhile, just lies. Nowhere do I fight against freedom of speech, religion or anything else, internut.

It's a lie that the freedom of speech, religion, and the right to bear arms is explicitly protected by the Constitution? :eek:

You should go back to using your meds.
 

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