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I asked as you asked. And If Obama "created" ISIS then Reagan/Bush "created" al Qaeda; I do not argue that point however. al Qaeda turned attention to the US in 1990 when we assisted Kuwait fight off Iraq, I did not object then, and will not now. Both groups have, and had, long simmering resentments of the Soviets, Russians, Saudis, and USA.
You need a history lesson. The circumstances are very different. Obama's incompetence and horrible decisions by pulling our troops out early from Iraq and standing idle while Assad commits genocide on his people gave rise to ISIS.

Reagan and Bush indirectly sent weapons to the Afghans to help them repel the Russians, and it was successful. Bin Laden / Al Queda and the Taliban were some of the many groups that had joined to fight and repel the Russians.

It was Bill Clinton's total ignorance of the brutal aftermath of the Russians leaving when the Talibans took total power in Afghanistan, which then became a safe haven for radical Islamic terrorism, including Al Queda and its leader, that brought about 9-11.

Some help for you:

At all relevant times from in or about 1989 until the date of the filing of this Indictment, an international terrorist group existed which was dedicated to opposing non-Islamic governments with force and violence. This organization grew out of the "mekhtab al khidemat" (the "Services Office") organization which had maintained offices in various parts of the world, including Afghanistan, Pakistan (particularly in Peshawar), and the United States. The group was founded by Usama Bin Laden and Muhammad Atef, a/k/a "Abu Hafs al Masry," together with "Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri," and others. From in or about 1989 until the present, the group called itself "al Qaeda" ("the Base"). From 1989 until in or about 1991, the group (hereafter referred to as "al Qaeda") was headquartered in Afghanistan and Peshawar, Pakistan. In or about 1991, the leadership of al Qaeda, including its "emir" (or prince) Usama Bin Laden, relocated to the Sudan. Al Qaeda was headquartered in the Sudan from approximately 1991 until approximately 1996 but still maintained offices in various parts of the world. In 1996, Usama Bin Laden and other members of al Qaeda relocated to Afghanistan. At all relevant times, al Qaeda was led by its emir, Usama Bin Laden. Members of al Qaeda pledged an oath of allegiance (called a "bayat") to Usama Bin Laden and al Qaeda. Those who were suspected of collaborating against al Qaeda were to be identified and killed.

2. Bin Laden and al Qaeda violently opposed the United States for several reasons. First, the United States was regarded as an "infidel" because it was not governed in a manner consistent with the group's extremist interpretation of Islam. Second, the United States was viewed as providing essential support for other "infidel" governments and institutions, particularly the governments of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the nation of Israel, and the United Nations organization, which were regarded as enemies of the group. Third, al Qaeda opposed the involvement of the United States armed forces in the Gulf War in 1991 and in Operation Restore Hope in Somalia in 1992 and 1993. In particular, al Qaeda opposed the continued presence of American military forces in Saudi Arabia (and elsewhere on the Saudi Arabian peninsula) following the Gulf War. Fourth, al Qaeda opposed the United States Government because of the arrest, conviction and imprisonment of persons belonging to al Qaeda or its affiliated terrorist groups or those with whom it worked. For these and other reasons, Bin Laden declared a jihad, or holy war, against the United States, which he has carried out through al Qaeda and its affiliated organizations.

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Excerpts from the U.S. indictment of Zacarias Moussaoui, filed in December 2001. Moussaoui is the alleged "20th hijacker" in the Sept. 11 attacks and this indictment offers information on what U.S. authorities know to date about bin Laden's Al Qaeda organization.

The following excerpts from the Moussaoui indictment outline Al Qaeda's origins, why it violently opposes the U.S., its goals, structure, organization, and affiliated groups, its training camps and business dealings, and its fatwahs and declarations of war against its enemies. (Note: the full indictment is available at the Department of Justice website.)

Al Qaeda - Background - Al Qaeda | Inside The Terror Network | FRONTLINE | PBS
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Yes, and? It was only a matter of time the Islamists would come after the leader of the "crusaders" aka the US. Bill Clinton totally ignored the failed state Afghanistan had become, the brutalization of its people by the barbaric Taliban, and let the problem fester, until 9-11 was launched from there. Of course, as they say, hindsight is always 20/20, the US and the world selfishly thought it's not our business but didn't realize that it will come to our shores one day.

Reagan, George HW Bush and George W. Bush did what exactly? 1980s, Reagan was sending all the money he could the Afghan "freedom fighters". Real history.
Yes, instead of sending our troops in, we let the Afghans and others repel the Russians. What is wrong with that.

Then Afghanistan became a failed state with barbaric Taliban Neanderthals running show while Bill Clinton was thumbing his nose for eight years while the Taliban were brutalizing Afghans and in effect making Afghanistan the Harvard of Islamic terrorism.

Haha, weren't you just saying Brzezinski was wrong for that, now it's okay when Reagan did that?
 
Fake meme photo, that is Shah Massoud, who was actually assassinated by Al Queda for his stance against them.
Like I said, the US was supporting many groups at the time.

Nothing fake about it. It's RR with Islamist his regime supported. Justification being to fight the Russians.

RR, like America in general cared not a whit for the evil ideology of Islam.
 
You need a history lesson. The circumstances are very different. Obama's incompetence and horrible decisions by pulling our troops out early from Iraq and standing idle while Assad commits genocide on his people gave rise to ISIS.

Reagan and Bush indirectly sent weapons to the Afghans to help them repel the Russians, and it was successful. Bin Laden / Al Queda and the Taliban were some of the many groups that had joined to fight and repel the Russians.

It was Bill Clinton's total ignorance of the brutal aftermath of the Russians leaving when the Talibans took total power in Afghanistan, which then became a safe haven for radical Islamic terrorism, including Al Queda and its leader, that brought about 9-11.

Some help for you:

At all relevant times from in or about 1989 until the date of the filing of this Indictment, an international terrorist group existed which was dedicated to opposing non-Islamic governments with force and violence. This organization grew out of the "mekhtab al khidemat" (the "Services Office") organization which had maintained offices in various parts of the world, including Afghanistan, Pakistan (particularly in Peshawar), and the United States. The group was founded by Usama Bin Laden and Muhammad Atef, a/k/a "Abu Hafs al Masry," together with "Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri," and others. From in or about 1989 until the present, the group called itself "al Qaeda" ("the Base"). From 1989 until in or about 1991, the group (hereafter referred to as "al Qaeda") was headquartered in Afghanistan and Peshawar, Pakistan. In or about 1991, the leadership of al Qaeda, including its "emir" (or prince) Usama Bin Laden, relocated to the Sudan. Al Qaeda was headquartered in the Sudan from approximately 1991 until approximately 1996 but still maintained offices in various parts of the world. In 1996, Usama Bin Laden and other members of al Qaeda relocated to Afghanistan. At all relevant times, al Qaeda was led by its emir, Usama Bin Laden. Members of al Qaeda pledged an oath of allegiance (called a "bayat") to Usama Bin Laden and al Qaeda. Those who were suspected of collaborating against al Qaeda were to be identified and killed.

2. Bin Laden and al Qaeda violently opposed the United States for several reasons. First, the United States was regarded as an "infidel" because it was not governed in a manner consistent with the group's extremist interpretation of Islam. Second, the United States was viewed as providing essential support for other "infidel" governments and institutions, particularly the governments of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the nation of Israel, and the United Nations organization, which were regarded as enemies of the group. Third, al Qaeda opposed the involvement of the United States armed forces in the Gulf War in 1991 and in Operation Restore Hope in Somalia in 1992 and 1993. In particular, al Qaeda opposed the continued presence of American military forces in Saudi Arabia (and elsewhere on the Saudi Arabian peninsula) following the Gulf War. Fourth, al Qaeda opposed the United States Government because of the arrest, conviction and imprisonment of persons belonging to al Qaeda or its affiliated terrorist groups or those with whom it worked. For these and other reasons, Bin Laden declared a jihad, or holy war, against the United States, which he has carried out through al Qaeda and its affiliated organizations.

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Excerpts from the U.S. indictment of Zacarias Moussaoui, filed in December 2001. Moussaoui is the alleged "20th hijacker" in the Sept. 11 attacks and this indictment offers information on what U.S. authorities know to date about bin Laden's Al Qaeda organization.

The following excerpts from the Moussaoui indictment outline Al Qaeda's origins, why it violently opposes the U.S., its goals, structure, organization, and affiliated groups, its training camps and business dealings, and its fatwahs and declarations of war against its enemies. (Note: the full indictment is available at the Department of Justice website.)

Al Qaeda - Background - Al Qaeda | Inside The Terror Network | FRONTLINE | PBS
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Yes, and? It was only a matter of time the Islamists would come after the leader of the "crusaders" aka the US. Bill Clinton totally ignored the failed state Afghanistan had become, the brutalization of its people by the barbaric Taliban, and let the problem fester, until 9-11 was launched from there. Of course, as they say, hindsight is always 20/20, the US and the world selfishly thought it's not our business but didn't realize that it will come to our shores one day.

Reagan, George HW Bush and George W. Bush did what exactly? 1980s, Reagan was sending all the money he could the Afghan "freedom fighters". Real history.
Yes, instead of sending our troops in, we let the Afghans and others repel the Russians. What is wrong with that.

Then Afghanistan became a failed state with barbaric Taliban Neanderthals running show while Bill Clinton was thumbing his nose for eight years while the Taliban were brutalizing Afghans and in effect making Afghanistan the Harvard of Islamic terrorism.

Haha, weren't you just saying Brzezinski was wrong for that, now it's okay when Reagan did that?
Brezinski was the idiot behind Carter's disastrous foreign policy that ushered in the Islamic revolution of Iran and the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan, which made Carter the second worst president in US history, right after Obama. Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, stupido.
 
Fake meme photo, that is Shah Massoud, who was actually assassinated by Al Queda for his stance against them.
Like I said, the US was supporting many groups at the time.

Nothing fake about it. It's RR with Islamist his regime supported. Justification being to fight the Russians.

RR, like America in general cared not a whit for the evil ideology of Islam.
The photo is not fake, the caption is. That is shah Massoud who was not an Islamist or Taliban. He was instrumental in the defeat of the Soviets, trusted by the US and the West, and the best and last hope for Afghanistan, who got assassinated by an Al Queda suicide bomber. Look it up.
 
Some help for you:

At all relevant times from in or about 1989 until the date of the filing of this Indictment, an international terrorist group existed which was dedicated to opposing non-Islamic governments with force and violence. This organization grew out of the "mekhtab al khidemat" (the "Services Office") organization which had maintained offices in various parts of the world, including Afghanistan, Pakistan (particularly in Peshawar), and the United States. The group was founded by Usama Bin Laden and Muhammad Atef, a/k/a "Abu Hafs al Masry," together with "Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri," and others. From in or about 1989 until the present, the group called itself "al Qaeda" ("the Base"). From 1989 until in or about 1991, the group (hereafter referred to as "al Qaeda") was headquartered in Afghanistan and Peshawar, Pakistan. In or about 1991, the leadership of al Qaeda, including its "emir" (or prince) Usama Bin Laden, relocated to the Sudan. Al Qaeda was headquartered in the Sudan from approximately 1991 until approximately 1996 but still maintained offices in various parts of the world. In 1996, Usama Bin Laden and other members of al Qaeda relocated to Afghanistan. At all relevant times, al Qaeda was led by its emir, Usama Bin Laden. Members of al Qaeda pledged an oath of allegiance (called a "bayat") to Usama Bin Laden and al Qaeda. Those who were suspected of collaborating against al Qaeda were to be identified and killed.

2. Bin Laden and al Qaeda violently opposed the United States for several reasons. First, the United States was regarded as an "infidel" because it was not governed in a manner consistent with the group's extremist interpretation of Islam. Second, the United States was viewed as providing essential support for other "infidel" governments and institutions, particularly the governments of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the nation of Israel, and the United Nations organization, which were regarded as enemies of the group. Third, al Qaeda opposed the involvement of the United States armed forces in the Gulf War in 1991 and in Operation Restore Hope in Somalia in 1992 and 1993. In particular, al Qaeda opposed the continued presence of American military forces in Saudi Arabia (and elsewhere on the Saudi Arabian peninsula) following the Gulf War. Fourth, al Qaeda opposed the United States Government because of the arrest, conviction and imprisonment of persons belonging to al Qaeda or its affiliated terrorist groups or those with whom it worked. For these and other reasons, Bin Laden declared a jihad, or holy war, against the United States, which he has carried out through al Qaeda and its affiliated organizations.

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Excerpts from the U.S. indictment of Zacarias Moussaoui, filed in December 2001. Moussaoui is the alleged "20th hijacker" in the Sept. 11 attacks and this indictment offers information on what U.S. authorities know to date about bin Laden's Al Qaeda organization.

The following excerpts from the Moussaoui indictment outline Al Qaeda's origins, why it violently opposes the U.S., its goals, structure, organization, and affiliated groups, its training camps and business dealings, and its fatwahs and declarations of war against its enemies. (Note: the full indictment is available at the Department of Justice website.)

Al Qaeda - Background - Al Qaeda | Inside The Terror Network | FRONTLINE | PBS
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Yes, and? It was only a matter of time the Islamists would come after the leader of the "crusaders" aka the US. Bill Clinton totally ignored the failed state Afghanistan had become, the brutalization of its people by the barbaric Taliban, and let the problem fester, until 9-11 was launched from there. Of course, as they say, hindsight is always 20/20, the US and the world selfishly thought it's not our business but didn't realize that it will come to our shores one day.

Reagan, George HW Bush and George W. Bush did what exactly? 1980s, Reagan was sending all the money he could the Afghan "freedom fighters". Real history.
Yes, instead of sending our troops in, we let the Afghans and others repel the Russians. What is wrong with that.

Then Afghanistan became a failed state with barbaric Taliban Neanderthals running show while Bill Clinton was thumbing his nose for eight years while the Taliban were brutalizing Afghans and in effect making Afghanistan the Harvard of Islamic terrorism.

Haha, weren't you just saying Brzezinski was wrong for that, now it's okay when Reagan did that?
Brezinski was the idiot behind Carter's disastrous foreign policy that ushered in the Islamic revolution of Iran and the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan, which made Carter the second worst president in US history, right after Obama. Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, stupido.

But you were just defending Reagan for supporting the Soviet-Afghan War, but when Brzezinski did it he was bad?

You're definitely one of the more primitive users here, and a Jew.
 
Yes, and? It was only a matter of time the Islamists would come after the leader of the "crusaders" aka the US. Bill Clinton totally ignored the failed state Afghanistan had become, the brutalization of its people by the barbaric Taliban, and let the problem fester, until 9-11 was launched from there. Of course, as they say, hindsight is always 20/20, the US and the world selfishly thought it's not our business but didn't realize that it will come to our shores one day.

Reagan, George HW Bush and George W. Bush did what exactly? 1980s, Reagan was sending all the money he could the Afghan "freedom fighters". Real history.
Yes, instead of sending our troops in, we let the Afghans and others repel the Russians. What is wrong with that.

Then Afghanistan became a failed state with barbaric Taliban Neanderthals running show while Bill Clinton was thumbing his nose for eight years while the Taliban were brutalizing Afghans and in effect making Afghanistan the Harvard of Islamic terrorism.

Haha, weren't you just saying Brzezinski was wrong for that, now it's okay when Reagan did that?
Brezinski was the idiot behind Carter's disastrous foreign policy that ushered in the Islamic revolution of Iran and the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan, which made Carter the second worst president in US history, right after Obama. Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, stupido.

But you were just defending Reagan for supporting the Soviet-Afghan War, but when Brzezinski did it he was bad?

You're definitely one of the more primitive users here, and a Jew.
Carter and Brezinski's weakness and ineptitude gave the Soviets the green light to invade Afghanistan. The US had become a paper tiger under these two fuckups, there would not be a need to support any rebels because under any other president the Soviets would not have DARED invade Afghanistan.

That piece of shit MOFO Brezkinski is the root of most of today's problems with Muslims today. It was the Carter / Brezinski manufactured Shiite Islamic Revolution of Iran that brought about a counter reactionary radical Sunni version such as Al Queda and ISIS financed by the Wahabbi Saudis.
 
Reagan, George HW Bush and George W. Bush did what exactly? 1980s, Reagan was sending all the money he could the Afghan "freedom fighters". Real history.
Yes, instead of sending our troops in, we let the Afghans and others repel the Russians. What is wrong with that.

Then Afghanistan became a failed state with barbaric Taliban Neanderthals running show while Bill Clinton was thumbing his nose for eight years while the Taliban were brutalizing Afghans and in effect making Afghanistan the Harvard of Islamic terrorism.

Haha, weren't you just saying Brzezinski was wrong for that, now it's okay when Reagan did that?
Brezinski was the idiot behind Carter's disastrous foreign policy that ushered in the Islamic revolution of Iran and the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan, which made Carter the second worst president in US history, right after Obama. Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, stupido.

But you were just defending Reagan for supporting the Soviet-Afghan War, but when Brzezinski did it he was bad?

You're definitely one of the more primitive users here, and a Jew.
Carter and Brezinski's weakness and ineptitude gave the Soviets the green light to invade Afghanistan. The US had become a paper tiger under these two fuckups, there would not be a need to support any rebels because under any other president the Soviets would not have DARED invade Afghanistan.

That piece of shit MOFO Brezkinski is the root of most of today's problems with Muslims today. It was the Carter / Brezinski manufactured Shiite Islamic Revolution of Iran that brought about a counter reactionary radical Sunni version such as Al Queda and ISIS financed by the Wahabbi Saudis.

Oh okay, when Reagan backed the Muslims against Soviets in Afghanistan it's understandable, but not when Brzezinski / Carter did it's horrible.
 
Yes, instead of sending our troops in, we let the Afghans and others repel the Russians. What is wrong with that.

Then Afghanistan became a failed state with barbaric Taliban Neanderthals running show while Bill Clinton was thumbing his nose for eight years while the Taliban were brutalizing Afghans and in effect making Afghanistan the Harvard of Islamic terrorism.

Haha, weren't you just saying Brzezinski was wrong for that, now it's okay when Reagan did that?
Brezinski was the idiot behind Carter's disastrous foreign policy that ushered in the Islamic revolution of Iran and the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan, which made Carter the second worst president in US history, right after Obama. Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, stupido.

But you were just defending Reagan for supporting the Soviet-Afghan War, but when Brzezinski did it he was bad?

You're definitely one of the more primitive users here, and a Jew.
Carter and Brezinski's weakness and ineptitude gave the Soviets the green light to invade Afghanistan. The US had become a paper tiger under these two fuckups, there would not be a need to support any rebels because under any other president the Soviets would not have DARED invade Afghanistan.

That piece of shit MOFO Brezkinski is the root of most of today's problems with Muslims today. It was the Carter / Brezinski manufactured Shiite Islamic Revolution of Iran that brought about a counter reactionary radical Sunni version such as Al Queda and ISIS financed by the Wahabbi Saudis.

Oh okay, when Reagan backed the Muslims against Soviets in Afghanistan it's understandable, but not when Brzezinski / Carter did it's horrible.

I'd agree with you but anti Semites make me ill.
 



Yet, the conservative movement has always kissed Reagans ass even through he supported Islamic terrorist, Saddam and amnesty!

^^^^ Operation Cyclone ie. supporting the Mujahideen was started during Jimmy Carter's Presidency.

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"Islamic terrorist, Saddam"

Except Saddam wasn't, under Saddam Hussein Iraq wasn't Islamist, Iraq was a Secular Society. The reason why Reagan's Administration supported Iraq was because of the Iraq-Iran War and Iran was Islamist post 1979 Islamic Revolution under Ayatollah Khomeini.
 
Yes, instead of sending our troops in, we let the Afghans and others repel the Russians. What is wrong with that.

Then Afghanistan became a failed state with barbaric Taliban Neanderthals running show while Bill Clinton was thumbing his nose for eight years while the Taliban were brutalizing Afghans and in effect making Afghanistan the Harvard of Islamic terrorism.

Haha, weren't you just saying Brzezinski was wrong for that, now it's okay when Reagan did that?
Brezinski was the idiot behind Carter's disastrous foreign policy that ushered in the Islamic revolution of Iran and the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan, which made Carter the second worst president in US history, right after Obama. Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, stupido.

But you were just defending Reagan for supporting the Soviet-Afghan War, but when Brzezinski did it he was bad?

You're definitely one of the more primitive users here, and a Jew.
Carter and Brezinski's weakness and ineptitude gave the Soviets the green light to invade Afghanistan. The US had become a paper tiger under these two fuckups, there would not be a need to support any rebels because under any other president the Soviets would not have DARED invade Afghanistan.

That piece of shit MOFO Brezkinski is the root of most of today's problems with Muslims today. It was the Carter / Brezinski manufactured Shiite Islamic Revolution of Iran that brought about a counter reactionary radical Sunni version such as Al Queda and ISIS financed by the Wahabbi Saudis.

Oh okay, when Reagan backed the Muslims against Soviets in Afghanistan it's understandable, but not when Brzezinski / Carter did it's horrible.

It's just that Leftist Double Standard again, when Conservatives do something it's bad, when Leftists do the same thing it's good.
 
Haha, weren't you just saying Brzezinski was wrong for that, now it's okay when Reagan did that?
Brezinski was the idiot behind Carter's disastrous foreign policy that ushered in the Islamic revolution of Iran and the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan, which made Carter the second worst president in US history, right after Obama. Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, stupido.

But you were just defending Reagan for supporting the Soviet-Afghan War, but when Brzezinski did it he was bad?

You're definitely one of the more primitive users here, and a Jew.
Carter and Brezinski's weakness and ineptitude gave the Soviets the green light to invade Afghanistan. The US had become a paper tiger under these two fuckups, there would not be a need to support any rebels because under any other president the Soviets would not have DARED invade Afghanistan.

That piece of shit MOFO Brezkinski is the root of most of today's problems with Muslims today. It was the Carter / Brezinski manufactured Shiite Islamic Revolution of Iran that brought about a counter reactionary radical Sunni version such as Al Queda and ISIS financed by the Wahabbi Saudis.

Oh okay, when Reagan backed the Muslims against Soviets in Afghanistan it's understandable, but not when Brzezinski / Carter did it's horrible.

It's just that Leftist Double Standard again, when Conservatives do something it's bad, when Leftists do the same thing it's good.

Reagan called them FREEDOM FIGHTERS remember?
 
Brezinski was the idiot behind Carter's disastrous foreign policy that ushered in the Islamic revolution of Iran and the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan, which made Carter the second worst president in US history, right after Obama. Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, stupido.

But you were just defending Reagan for supporting the Soviet-Afghan War, but when Brzezinski did it he was bad?

You're definitely one of the more primitive users here, and a Jew.
Carter and Brezinski's weakness and ineptitude gave the Soviets the green light to invade Afghanistan. The US had become a paper tiger under these two fuckups, there would not be a need to support any rebels because under any other president the Soviets would not have DARED invade Afghanistan.

That piece of shit MOFO Brezkinski is the root of most of today's problems with Muslims today. It was the Carter / Brezinski manufactured Shiite Islamic Revolution of Iran that brought about a counter reactionary radical Sunni version such as Al Queda and ISIS financed by the Wahabbi Saudis.

Oh okay, when Reagan backed the Muslims against Soviets in Afghanistan it's understandable, but not when Brzezinski / Carter did it's horrible.

It's just that Leftist Double Standard again, when Conservatives do something it's bad, when Leftists do the same thing it's good.

Reagan called them FREEDOM FIGHTERS remember?
Reagan called Shah Massoud's group freedom fighters. Not the Taliban or Al Queda.
 
Oh okay, when Reagan backed the Muslims against Soviets in Afghanistan it's understandable, but not when Brzezinski / Carter did it's horrible.
It's just that Leftist Double Standard again, when Conservatives do something it's bad, when Leftists do the same thing it's good.
Reagan called them FREEDOM FIGHTERS remember?

Well, he didnt call THOSE PARTICULAR Muslims freedom fighters. Fighting for your freedom is one thing, fighting to eliminate the infidel is quite another.

Those are not the Muslims you are looking for.
 

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