Science can not even get when life started right

[ReinyDays]

And sisters...

The Bible says wives ... could have been sisters ... you might be shocked to learn just how long political spin has been around ...

 

[Flash]

If all it took was a little water, a few organic compounds and some energy every Jr High Science class would be creating life as a classroom lab.

It also takes time ... not many Jr High School classes last a million years ...

Just a nitpick ... ammonia, water and carbon dioxide are not organic compounds ... so just methane is ... and all these compounds are common in the universe ... so really, it's just water in it's liquid state that's needed, everything else is available in abundance ... especially time ...

The thing is that we don't really don't know how to change chemistry into biology.

Until we figure it then have nothing.

It may be that the events that turned chemistry into biology here on on earth are so rare that life is unique.

For instance, the moon played a large part in it from what I understand. The tidal pools are considered to be where life originated. Back then the moon was closer and there were more massive tidal surges. The days were much shorter. The atmosphere was different that allowed a different spectrum of radiation to penetrate to the surface.

So many factors that came into play. It is a lot more than just having the chemical components. Those components may be common in the universe but that doesn't mean life exist elsewhere.

One of the great unknowns of science. We will never know the answer until we find life elsewhere. If we never find it then we will never know, which is a real possibility.

Even if we do manage to create life in a test tube unless we find it elsewhere we never know if exist outside the earth.

My personal opinion is that the universe is probably pretty much sterile. Not only sterile but very dangerous and hostile to life. Earth may very well be unique.

 

[ReinyDays]

"Life elsewhere" cannot be falsified ... thus is a philosophical position ... we can apply scientific principles to the question, but at it's heart, it is not a scientific question ...

The Moon certainly had a roll in the development of life on land ... and you seem to only care about cute adorable fuzzy lifeforms with faces that resemble human infants ... whereas most likely these alien life forms will be yeast type organisms, things that ferment rather than respirate ... even piggy-backing an interferometer on the scaled up version of the LIGO experiment won't be able to detect this type of life ...

There's some technological issues with resolving objects a few microns in diameter from 10 light-years away ... issues that may never be fixed ... so not having the ability to see alien life isn't proof it doesn't exist ... and the millions of years for a lab experiment to answer this question will just have to be something we'll be waiting on ...

We observe that all of life on Earth seems to follow certain rules ... with these rules in hand, we can say they must be true, see how all of life seems to follow them ... the logical fallacy of "Begging the Question" ... If A, then A ... we take no step to further our understanding ... someday we'll see the N2/O2 spectrum from an exoplanet ... proof positive of advanced life ... someday ... maybe in our lifetimes if we build the right telescope ...

 

[james bond]

So you are accepting Genesis was, and still IS Wrong.

No. We have accepted that you were wrong and are still wrong. Atheists and their scientists are usually wrong.

 

[james bond]

Origin of Life Theory Called Into Question by Volcanic Rock Study

Animals may have emerged under very different conditions.

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They have been claiming for hundred years or more life needed oxygen to evolve into complex forms. Turns out they were mostly wrong, Very little oxygen was present when the first complex life forms evolved. If they got that wrong what else have they gotten wrong?

That is false !! You’re a science illiterate
Took hundreds of millions of years for green plants to form which produced the oxygen for bigger brains and life

Takes too long. The Earth would be gone by then. Rocks and fossils would've dissolved and crumbled into dust. Stars would've spent their fuel or exploded. The planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies are not indestructible. Where's your common sense?

 

[james bond]

Hollie ... why do you know so many quotes from Adolf Hitler? ...

It is a way to educate the ‘’Hitler was not a Christian”, Christians.

You clearly have zero understanding on what it means to be a Christian. You seem to not understand politicians either. You probably think Bill and Hillary Clinton are Christians too.

Actually, I am the true authority on what it means to be a Christian.

You are the true authority on what it means to be an Anti-Christian. You have a way of always getting things wrong.

 

[Hollie]

Hollie ... why do you know so many quotes from Adolf Hitler? ...

It is a way to educate the ‘’Hitler was not a Christian”, Christians.

You clearly have zero understanding on what it means to be a Christian. You seem to not understand politicians either. You probably think Bill and Hillary Clinton are Christians too.

Actually, I am the true authority on what it means to be a Christian.

You are the true authority on what it means to be an Anti-Christian. You have a way of always getting things wrong.

What things?

 

[Hollie]

Origin of Life Theory Called Into Question by Volcanic Rock Study

Animals may have emerged under very different conditions.

getpocket.com

They have been claiming for hundred years or more life needed oxygen to evolve into complex forms. Turns out they were mostly wrong, Very little oxygen was present when the first complex life forms evolved. If they got that wrong what else have they gotten wrong?

That is false !! You’re a science illiterate
Took hundreds of millions of years for green plants to form which produced the oxygen for bigger brains and life

Takes too long. The Earth would be gone by then. Rocks and fossils would've dissolved and crumbled into dust. Stars would've spent their fuel or exploded. The planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies are not indestructible. Where's your common sense?

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

 

[ReinyDays]

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

I find it more ironic that Ian Flemming's James Bond is a murderer, a thief, a spy and a rapist ... not a name I would use to advocate Christian lifestyle ...

 

[buttercup]

Origin of Life Theory Called Into Question by Volcanic Rock Study

Animals may have emerged under very different conditions.

getpocket.com

They have been claiming for hundred years or more life needed oxygen to evolve into complex forms. Turns out they were mostly wrong, Very little oxygen was present when the first complex life forms evolved. If they got that wrong what else have they gotten wrong?

That is false !! You’re a science illiterate
Took hundreds of millions of years for green plants to form which produced the oxygen for bigger brains and life

Takes too long. The Earth would be gone by then. Rocks and fossils would've dissolved and crumbled into dust. Stars would've spent their fuel or exploded. The planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies are not indestructible. Where's your common sense?

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

There's no "common sense" in believing that life came from non-life, or that the universe, natural laws and everything in existence put itself together by dumb luck. In fact, that's the opposite of common sense. That's pure foolishness while thinking one is so smart.

 

[buttercup]

If all it took was a little water, a few organic compounds and some energy every Jr High Science class would be creating life as a classroom lab.

It also takes time ... not many Jr High School classes last a million years ...

Just a nitpick ... ammonia, water and carbon dioxide are not organic compounds ... so just methane is ... and all these compounds are common in the universe ... so really, it's just water in it's liquid state that's needed, everything else is available in abundance ... especially time ...

Ah, yes. With enough time, anything can happen. A pile of rubble might turn itself into a cathedral. Let's just give a few billion years!

 

[Flash]

Origin of Life Theory Called Into Question by Volcanic Rock Study

Animals may have emerged under very different conditions.

getpocket.com

They have been claiming for hundred years or more life needed oxygen to evolve into complex forms. Turns out they were mostly wrong, Very little oxygen was present when the first complex life forms evolved. If they got that wrong what else have they gotten wrong?

That is false !! You’re a science illiterate
Took hundreds of millions of years for green plants to form which produced the oxygen for bigger brains and life

Takes too long. The Earth would be gone by then. Rocks and fossils would've dissolved and crumbled into dust. Stars would've spent their fuel or exploded. The planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies are not indestructible. Where's your common sense?

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

You mean like these secularist that believe that the universe magically created itself out of nothing?

That is the best magic trick of all time, isn't it?

 

[Flash]

.. someday we'll see the N2/O2 spectrum from an exoplanet . ... proof positive of advanced life .

No, you may be a little confused.

Proof positive would be for humans to visit another planet or moon that has life, either existing or in some fossil record, or life coming here.

If we never find life elsewhere then we will never know.

 

[buttercup]

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

You mean like these secularist that believe that the universe magically created itself out of nothing?

That is the best magic trick of all time, isn't it?

That's exactly what I was thinking. It's hilarious that they are always going on and on about "magic" when what they believe is infinitely more "magical" and takes far, far, FAR more faith. I definitely wouldn't have enough faith to be an atheist.

 

[Flash]

The problem that humans have is that we have been brainwashed for 100 years by Science Fiction.

We are absolutely sure that life exist elsewhere because we read about it in books, see it on TV and in the movies.

However, the cold hard facts is that the only thing that is real is that life exist on earth. We have absolutely no proof it exist elsewhere. There are no Green Orion Slave Girls for Cpt Kirk to screw. There is no ET. There is no Rebel Alliance fighting the Evil Empire in a galaxy far, far away.

We all want to believe but it ain't real.

 

[Flash]

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

You mean like these secularist that believe that the universe magically created itself out of nothing?

That is the best magic trick of all time, isn't it?

That's exactly what I was thinking. It's hilarious that they are always going on and on about "magic" when what they believe is infinitely more "magical" and takes far, far, FAR more faith. I definitely wouldn't have enough faith to be an atheist.

Absolutely!

If we are not the result of intelligent design then the only alternative is that the universe magically created itself out of nothing, which is nothing more than ridiculous magic. Against all the Laws of Physics that we understand.

 

[ReinyDays]

There's no "common sense" in believing that life came from non-life, or that the universe, natural laws and everything in existence put itself together by dumb luck. In fact, that's the opposite of common sense. That's pure foolishness while thinking one is so smart.

Gravity is dumb luck? ... I'm very interested and would like to subscribe to your newsletter ...

 

[buttercup]

The problem that humans have is that we have been brainwashed for 100 years by Science Fiction.

We are absolutely sure that life exist elsewhere because we read about it in books, see it on TV and in the movies.

However, the cold hard facts is that the only thing that is real is that life exist on earth. We have absolutely no proof it exist elsewhere. There are no Green Orion Slave Girls for Cpt Kirk to screw. There is no ET. There is no Rebel Alliance fighting the Evil Empire in a galaxy far, far away.

We all want to believe but it ain't real.

I agree. In fact, I'd go a step further and say that we've been lied to about most things. The more I learn, through study and life experience, the more I realize that the powers who run this world have done everything they can to mislead the public away from actual truth.

 

[buttercup]

There's no "common sense" in believing that life came from non-life, or that the universe, natural laws and everything in existence put itself together by dumb luck. In fact, that's the opposite of common sense. That's pure foolishness while thinking one is so smart.

Gravity is dumb luck? ... I'm very interested and would like to subscribe to your newsletter ...

Never said that, try again.

 

[ReinyDays]

There are no Green Orion Slave Girls for Cpt Kirk to screw.

That would have been Cpt Pike ...