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Bottom line...the only idiots talking about secession are those to damn cowardly to do anything other than pipe dream on the internet.
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If factual photos of the Civil War offend you...may I suggest you stick your head up your ass.Roto and Recon: The two of you need to take your snuff pornography to some filthy motel room where you can go crazy on each other and blow off the obvious sexual energy you have built up for one another. Both of you deviant fucks might consider leaving the rest of humanity out of your vile photo exhibition.
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Give us the best "real" version of what the south did in 1860!
well, lincoln said in 1848
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.
Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.
A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848
lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861
Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
and the south foolishly took him at his word when they tried to peacefully withdraw. lincoln sent troops and ships to invade charleston and the patriotic southerners repelled the invasion....
Which just shows that some will see the horrible reasons to have slavery and some never see it.
If you are condoning slavery, which it seems you are, what a sad state of being human.
If and when the tables were turned what would someone like you want to have happen?
Let the south and others use blacks as slave! Gocha!
On another thought, the spoils goes the victor.
To bad that Mr. Lincoln wanted to pacify so many in the south and the rest of the country.
The North should have taken all the land and kicked the plantation owners out and made them fend for themselves.
What a wonderful thought.
Give us the best "real" version of what the south did in 1860!
well, lincoln said in 1848
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.
Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.
A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848
lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861
Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
and the south foolishly took him at his word when they tried to peacefully withdraw. lincoln sent troops and ships to invade charleston and the patriotic southerners repelled the invasion....
A bunch of inbred hicks were too stupid to realize they were no better than the Africans and allowed the Southern wealthy to dupe their stupid asses into a ass whipping of historical proportions.
Here are your genetically superior ancestors:
Did you not see that I deleted these earlier? So why are you posting them again?
Bottom line...the only idiots talking about secession are those to damn cowardly to do anything other than pipe dream on the internet.
If factual photos of the Civil War offend you...may I suggest you stick your head up your ass.Roto and Recon: The two of you need to take your snuff pornography to some filthy motel room where you can go crazy on each other and blow off the obvious sexual energy you have built up for one another. Both of you deviant fucks might consider leaving the rest of humanity out of your vile photo exhibition.
Both of you:![]()
Factual photos of you ancestors offends you, so why don't you take some of your own medicine?
The South tried to peacefully and legally withdraw. .
Fuck You...if the photos offend you, stick your head up your ass.If factual photos of the Civil War offend you...may I suggest you stick your head up your ass.Roto and Recon: The two of you need to take your snuff pornography to some filthy motel room where you can go crazy on each other and blow off the obvious sexual energy you have built up for one another. Both of you deviant fucks might consider leaving the rest of humanity out of your vile photo exhibition.
Both of you:![]()
Fuck you and your fellow pornographer.
The South tried to peacefully and legally withdraw. .
The FACTS of history prove that a lie.
Which just shows that some will see the horrible reasons to have slavery and some never see it.
If you are condoning slavery, which it seems you are, what a sad state of being human.
If and when the tables were turned what would someone like you want to have happen?
Let the south and others use blacks as slave! Gocha!
On another thought, the spoils goes the victor.
To bad that Mr. Lincoln wanted to pacify so many in the south and the rest of the country.
The North should have taken all the land and kicked the plantation owners out and made them fend for themselves.
What a wonderful thought.
Give us the best "real" version of what the south did in 1860!
well, lincoln said in 1848
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.
Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.
A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848
lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861
Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
and the south foolishly took him at his word when they tried to peacefully withdraw. lincoln sent troops and ships to invade charleston and the patriotic southerners repelled the invasion....
No one condoned slavery ,you fucking dumbass.
Hey stupid f*ck, learn some history.
Which just shows that some will see the horrible reasons to have slavery and some never see it.
If you are condoning slavery, which it seems you are, what a sad state of being human.
If and when the tables were turned what would someone like you want to have happen?
Let the south and others use blacks as slave! Gocha!
On another thought, the spoils goes the victor.
To bad that Mr. Lincoln wanted to pacify so many in the south and the rest of the country.
The North should have taken all the land and kicked the plantation owners out and made them fend for themselves.
What a wonderful thought.
Give us the best "real" version of what the south did in 1860!
well, lincoln said in 1848
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.
Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.
A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848
lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861
Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
and the south foolishly took him at his word when they tried to peacefully withdraw. lincoln sent troops and ships to invade charleston and the patriotic southerners repelled the invasion....
No one condoned slavery ,you fucking dumbass.
Hey stupid f*ck, learn some history.
Which just shows that some will see the horrible reasons to have slavery and some never see it.
If you are condoning slavery, which it seems you are, what a sad state of being human.
If and when the tables were turned what would someone like you want to have happen?
Let the south and others use blacks as slave! Gocha!
On another thought, the spoils goes the victor.
To bad that Mr. Lincoln wanted to pacify so many in the south and the rest of the country.
The North should have taken all the land and kicked the plantation owners out and made them fend for themselves.
What a wonderful thought.
Give us the best "real" version of what the south did in 1860!
well, lincoln said in 1848
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.
Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.
A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848
lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861
Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
and the south foolishly took him at his word when they tried to peacefully withdraw. lincoln sent troops and ships to invade charleston and the patriotic southerners repelled the invasion....
No one condoned slavery ,you fucking dumbass.
No one here has condoned slavery. You're unhinged.
Hey stupid f*ck, learn some history.
Which just shows that some will see the horrible reasons to have slavery and some never see it.
If you are condoning slavery, which it seems you are, what a sad state of being human.
If and when the tables were turned what would someone like you want to have happen?
Let the south and others use blacks as slave! Gocha!
On another thought, the spoils goes the victor.
To bad that Mr. Lincoln wanted to pacify so many in the south and the rest of the country.
The North should have taken all the land and kicked the plantation owners out and made them fend for themselves.
What a wonderful thought.
Give us the best "real" version of what the south did in 1860!
well, lincoln said in 1848
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.
Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.
A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848
lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861
Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
and the south foolishly took him at his word when they tried to peacefully withdraw. lincoln sent troops and ships to invade charleston and the patriotic southerners repelled the invasion....
No one condoned slavery ,you fucking dumbass.
No one here has condoned slavery. You're unhinged.
From everything posted by you and others with your going back to 1860's, the hell you don't. You just hide it with your new views on secession. If you want to secede go ahead and do it but quite referring to the 1860's and try to say it was the North that made the wrong move.
Hey stupid f*ck, learn some history.
Which just shows that some will see the horrible reasons to have slavery and some never see it.
If you are condoning slavery, which it seems you are, what a sad state of being human.
If and when the tables were turned what would someone like you want to have happen?
Let the south and others use blacks as slave! Gocha!
On another thought, the spoils goes the victor.
To bad that Mr. Lincoln wanted to pacify so many in the south and the rest of the country.
The North should have taken all the land and kicked the plantation owners out and made them fend for themselves.
What a wonderful thought.
well, lincoln said in 1848
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.
Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.
A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848
lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861
Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
and the south foolishly took him at his word when they tried to peacefully withdraw. lincoln sent troops and ships to invade charleston and the patriotic southerners repelled the invasion....
No one condoned slavery ,you fucking dumbass.
No one here has condoned slavery. You're unhinged.
From everything posted by you and others with your going back to 1860's, the hell you don't. You just hide it with your new views on secession. If you want to secede go ahead and do it but quite referring to the 1860's and try to say it was the North that made the wrong move.
Hey stupid f*ck, learn some history.
Which just shows that some will see the horrible reasons to have slavery and some never see it.
If you are condoning slavery, which it seems you are, what a sad state of being human.
If and when the tables were turned what would someone like you want to have happen?
Let the south and others use blacks as slave! Gocha!
On another thought, the spoils goes the victor.
To bad that Mr. Lincoln wanted to pacify so many in the south and the rest of the country.
The North should have taken all the land and kicked the plantation owners out and made them fend for themselves.
What a wonderful thought.
No one condoned slavery ,you fucking dumbass.
No one here has condoned slavery. You're unhinged.
I don't want to secede.
I want to be kicked out.
Hey stupid f*ck, learn some history.
Which just shows that some will see the horrible reasons to have slavery and some never see it.
If you are condoning slavery, which it seems you are, what a sad state of being human.
If and when the tables were turned what would someone like you want to have happen?
Let the south and others use blacks as slave! Gocha!
On another thought, the spoils goes the victor.
To bad that Mr. Lincoln wanted to pacify so many in the south and the rest of the country.
The North should have taken all the land and kicked the plantation owners out and made them fend for themselves.
What a wonderful thought.
well, lincoln said in 1848
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.
Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.
A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848
lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861
Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
and the south foolishly took him at his word when they tried to peacefully withdraw. lincoln sent troops and ships to invade charleston and the patriotic southerners repelled the invasion....
No one condoned slavery ,you fucking dumbass.
No one here has condoned slavery. You're unhinged.
Slavery was bad, that is a given
Funny thing though, back in GA, descendants of slaves my family owned still proudly carry the name.
Most did not even leave the area but continued to work with the family after the war.
I have an unusual last name, not many of us in the GOUSA, but, most are BLACK, and do not change the name.
Must not have been too bitter over it.
Which means? You lack character to stand by a conviction.
From everything posted by you and others with your going back to 1860's, the hell you don't. You just hide it with your new views on secession. If you want to secede go ahead and do it but quite referring to the 1860's and try to say it was the North that made the wrong move.
Hey stupid f*ck, learn some history.
No one condoned slavery ,you fucking dumbass.
No one here has condoned slavery. You're unhinged.
I don't want to secede.
I want to be kicked out.
From everything posted by you and others with your going back to 1860's, the hell you don't.
That doesn't even make sense. Try again.You just hide it with your new views on secession.
If you want to secede go ahead and do it
but quite referring to the 1860's and try to say it was the North that made the wrong move.
From everything posted by you and others with your going back to 1860's, the hell you don't.
No one here has ever said anything about condoning slavery, scooter...quit exaggerating.
That doesn't even make sense. Try again.You just hide it with your new views on secession.
If you want to secede go ahead and do it
Thanks for granting your permission...
but quite referring to the 1860's and try to say it was the North that made the wrong move.
lincoln lied in his comments before congress in 1848 and he lied in his first inaugural address. Want me to post them again? Let me know..
the north sent troops and ships to invade the south because the people decided to legally and peacefully withdraw from the union. No other reason...
Southern patriots then repelled the invaders at fort sumter but lincoln now had his casus belli to make war on civilians...fellow american civilians.
We haven't forgotten.
Those are facts, son.