SECESSION!!!!

[Unkotare]

the south tried to legally and peacefully secede....

No they did not, Spam-I-Am.

 

[Unkotare]

Roto and Recon: The two of you need to take your snuff pornography to some filthy motel room where you can go crazy on each other and blow off the obvious sexual energy you have built up for one another. Both of you deviant fucks might consider leaving the rest of humanity out of your vile photo exhibition.

Both of you:

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Guys, these photographs are amounting to nothing more than a flame war. Don't post any more of them unless they are specifically related to the topic at hand.

 

[bripat9643]

Yankees invaded the south not the other way around dumb ass.

The confederate traitors started the war they wanted. Well, they got it.

How many Confederates were convicted of treason after the war?

As per President Lincoln's magnanimity and vision.

lincoln was a lying, scheming POS.

Here's what he said previously regarding people forming their own government;


Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.

More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.

Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.

A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848


lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861

Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --

I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:

Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.






Blockading of southern ports with the Anaconda Plan was an act of war...invading the CSA was an act of war...

The United States was formed with the consent of each individual state, when the founders wrote the constitution and debated it they always said it was a states prerogative if they wanted to break away from the Union.
Even pro strong central government advocate Alexander Hamilton thought it was well within the state's rights to leave the Union voluntarily if they wanted to.
Slavery was wrong just as fighting a war to collect taxes and imports was wrong ....or fighting a war violating a states right to secession as most of the founders believed.

Is it any wonder Obama's favorite POTUS is Lincoln. They have so much in common...both are liars and particularly good at deceiving the public.

All dictators admire Lincoln. Hitler admired Lincoln and so did Stalin. Lincoln taught them how to be a dictator.

 

[bripat9643]

The Lincoln Memorial in DC is a disgusting tribute to a tyrant.

I'm sure you had something more appropriate in Mind...huh??


The Mammy Washington Almost Had
In 1923, the U.S. Senate approved a new monument in D.C. "in memory of the faithful slave mammies of the South."
The Mammy Washington Almost Had - The Atlantic

Oh brother...another fool.

Anyone who disagrees with the Lincoln Cult, must be a racist, KKK member, or worse.

Ignorance is a awful thing, but its presence among the Lincoln Cult, is overwhelming.

Yep. The minute you start telling the truth about Lincoln and the Civil War, the Lincoln cult members will descend on you like a hoard of angry hornets and call you all sorts of despicable names. It appears the are grossly insecure about their religion.

 

[bripat9643]

incorrect.

Indisputably correct.

Incorrect.

 

[Unkotare]

incorrect.

Indisputably correct.

Incorrect.

The confederate traitors didn't fire on Fort Sumpter? The champions of slavery weren't working for a Constitutional Amendment guaranteeing it in perpetuity right up until the act of rebellion began? What exactly are you confused about?

 

[RKMBrown]

incorrect.

Indisputably correct.

Incorrect.

The confederate traitors didn't fire on Fort Sumpter? The champions of slavery weren't working for a Constitutional Amendment guaranteeing it in perpetuity right up until the act of rebellion began? What exactly are you confused about?

Which facts are you sticking with... the south seceded or the south did not secede?

 

[reconmark]

slavery was a fading practice.
The people in the south and the leaders knew it would end as they watched the beginnings of the industrial revolution.
No need to import expensive, high maintenance farm animals when there were machines being invented that were cheaper and more efficient to own.

As told by the revisionists....

you deny the industrial revolution or do you deny that slavery was a dying practice?

Are you denying that the Southern States explicitly not only wanted to maintain chattel slavery but expand it into the Western Territories...

Please cut it out...the revisionist movement is fos!!!

the south tried to legally and peacefully secede.
Since they were no longer part of the nation, they had no say in what the rest of the country did with the territories.Slavery was a dying practice....lincoln had to have his war, though.

Your statement is so filled with the lies of historical revisionists and those ignorant of history it looks like swiss cheese.

There was never a period of time when the Southern states weren't part of the U.S.
Traitors attempted to subvert the Nation and were dealt with accordingly.
The South attempted to strong arm the legitimate and recognized Government of the U.S. to not allow continue to allow chattel slavery but allow it's expansion into the Western Territories.

Farm Animals, machinery and the Industrial Revolution are all attempts at distorting factual history as it pertains to the south's refusal to abolish slavery.

Peddle your wares eslewhere...

 

[reconmark]

Roto and Recon: The two of you need to take your snuff pornography to some filthy motel room where you can go crazy on each other and blow off the obvious sexual energy you have built up for one another. Both of you deviant fucks might consider leaving the rest of humanity out of your vile photo exhibition.

Both of you:

If factual photos of the Civil War offend you...may I suggest you stick your head up your ass.

 

[Unkotare]

Roto and Recon: The two of you need to take your snuff pornography to some filthy motel room where you can go crazy on each other and blow off the obvious sexual energy you have built up for one another. Both of you deviant fucks might consider leaving the rest of humanity out of your vile photo exhibition.

Both of you:

If factual photos of the Civil War offend you...may I suggest you stick your head up your ass.

Fuck you and your fellow pornographer.

 

[Rotagilla]

slavery was a fading practice.
The people in the south and the leaders knew it would end as they watched the beginnings of the industrial revolution.
No need to import expensive, high maintenance farm animals when there were machines being invented that were cheaper and more efficient to own.

As told by the revisionists....

you deny the industrial revolution or do you deny that slavery was a dying practice?

Are you denying that the Southern States explicitly not only wanted to maintain chattel slavery but expand it into the Western Territories...

Please cut it out...the revisionist movement is fos!!!

the south tried to legally and peacefully secede.
Since they were no longer part of the nation, they had no say in what the rest of the country did with the territories.Slavery was a dying practice....lincoln had to have his war, though.

Your statement is so filled with the lies of historical revisionists and those ignorant of history it looks like swiss cheese.

Good...you won't have any trouble refuting them, right?

There was never a period of time when the Southern states weren't part of the U.S.

Yes there was

Traitors attempted to subvert the Nation and were dealt with accordingly.

That's what the british said about the colonists who tried to peacefully withdraw from england.

The South tried to peacefully and legally withdraw. lincoln wanted war, though.

The South attempted to strong arm the legitimate and recognized Government of the U.S. to not allow continue to allow chattel slavery but allow it's expansion into the Western Territories.

The south tried to peacefully withdraw..not "strongarm" anyone. lincolns unprovoked act of aggression is what caused the shooting when patriots repelled invaders.

Farm Animals, machinery and the Industrial Revolution are all attempts at distorting factual history as it pertains to the south's refusal to abolish slavery.

Slavery was dying out because machines were lower maintenance to own than farm animals or negroes.

 

[reconmark]

Roto and Recon: The two of you need to take your snuff pornography to some filthy motel room where you can go crazy on each other and blow off the obvious sexual energy you have built up for one another. Both of you deviant fucks might consider leaving the rest of humanity out of your vile photo exhibition.

Both of you:

If factual photos of the Civil War offend you...may I suggest you stick your head up your ass.

Fuck you and your fellow pornographer.

Fuck You...if the photos offend you, stick your head up your ass.

 

[reconmark]

As told by the revisionists....

you deny the industrial revolution or do you deny that slavery was a dying practice?

Are you denying that the Southern States explicitly not only wanted to maintain chattel slavery but expand it into the Western Territories...

Please cut it out...the revisionist movement is fos!!!

the south tried to legally and peacefully secede.
Since they were no longer part of the nation, they had no say in what the rest of the country did with the territories.Slavery was a dying practice....lincoln had to have his war, though.

Your statement is so filled with the lies of historical revisionists and those ignorant of history it looks like swiss cheese.

Good...you won't have any trouble refuting them, right?

There was never a period of time when the Southern states weren't part of the U.S.

Yes there was

Traitors attempted to subvert the Nation and were dealt with accordingly.

That's what the british said about the colonists who tried to peacefully withdraw from england.

The South tried to peacefully and legally withdraw. lincoln wanted war, though.

The South attempted to strong arm the legitimate and recognized Government of the U.S. to not allow continue to allow chattel slavery but allow it's expansion into the Western Territories.

The south tried to peacefully withdraw..not "strongarm" anyone. lincolns unprovoked act of aggression is what caused the shooting when patriots repelled invaders.

Farm Animals, machinery and the Industrial Revolution are all attempts at distorting factual history as it pertains to the south's refusal to abolish slavery.

Slavery was dying out because machines were lower maintenance to own than farm animals or negroes.

So I have already refuted your fairy tales but you want to pretend otherwise...how typical.

Did the South refuse to abolish slavery???...yes or no???

Did the South want to expand slavery to the expanding Western Territories???...yes or no???

Revisionism isn't history.

 

[Rotagilla]

Roto and Recon: The two of you need to take your snuff pornography to some filthy motel room where you can go crazy on each other and blow off the obvious sexual energy you have built up for one another. Both of you deviant fucks might consider leaving the rest of humanity out of your vile photo exhibition.

Both of you:

If factual photos of the Civil War offend you...may I suggest you stick your head up your ass.

Fuck you and your fellow pornographer.

Fuck You...if the photos offend you, stick your head up your ass.

 

[boilermaker55]

Give us the best "real" version of what the south did in 1860!

The Lincoln Memorial in DC is a disgusting tribute to a tyrant.

I'm sure you had something more appropriate in Mind...huh??


The Mammy Washington Almost Had
In 1923, the U.S. Senate approved a new monument in D.C. "in memory of the faithful slave mammies of the South."
The Mammy Washington Almost Had - The Atlantic

Oh brother...another fool.

Anyone who disagrees with the Lincoln Cult, must be a racist, KKK member, or worse.

Ignorance is a awful thing, but its presence among the Lincoln Cult, is overwhelming.

Yep. The minute you start telling the truth about Lincoln and the Civil War, the Lincoln cult members will descend on you like a hoard of angry hornets and call you all sorts of despicable names. It appears the are grossly insecure about their religion.

 

[Rotagilla]

you deny the industrial revolution or do you deny that slavery was a dying practice?

Are you denying that the Southern States explicitly not only wanted to maintain chattel slavery but expand it into the Western Territories...

Please cut it out...the revisionist movement is fos!!!

the south tried to legally and peacefully secede.
Since they were no longer part of the nation, they had no say in what the rest of the country did with the territories.Slavery was a dying practice....lincoln had to have his war, though.

Your statement is so filled with the lies of historical revisionists and those ignorant of history it looks like swiss cheese.

Good...you won't have any trouble refuting them, right?

There was never a period of time when the Southern states weren't part of the U.S.

Yes there was

Traitors attempted to subvert the Nation and were dealt with accordingly.

That's what the british said about the colonists who tried to peacefully withdraw from england.

The South tried to peacefully and legally withdraw. lincoln wanted war, though.

The South attempted to strong arm the legitimate and recognized Government of the U.S. to not allow continue to allow chattel slavery but allow it's expansion into the Western Territories.

The south tried to peacefully withdraw..not "strongarm" anyone. lincolns unprovoked act of aggression is what caused the shooting when patriots repelled invaders.

Farm Animals, machinery and the Industrial Revolution are all attempts at distorting factual history as it pertains to the south's refusal to abolish slavery.

Slavery was dying out because machines were lower maintenance to own than farm animals or negroes.

So I have already refuted your fairy tales but you want to pretend otherwise...how typical.

Did the South refuse to abolish slavery???...yes or no???

Did the South want to expand slavery to the expanding Western Territories???...yes or no???

Revisionism isn't history.

Link?

Proof?

just kidding..I know you don't have any...

 

[reconmark]

Are you denying that the Southern States explicitly not only wanted to maintain chattel slavery but expand it into the Western Territories...

Please cut it out...the revisionist movement is fos!!!

the south tried to legally and peacefully secede.
Since they were no longer part of the nation, they had no say in what the rest of the country did with the territories.Slavery was a dying practice....lincoln had to have his war, though.

Your statement is so filled with the lies of historical revisionists and those ignorant of history it looks like swiss cheese.

Good...you won't have any trouble refuting them, right?

There was never a period of time when the Southern states weren't part of the U.S.

Yes there was

Traitors attempted to subvert the Nation and were dealt with accordingly.

That's what the british said about the colonists who tried to peacefully withdraw from england.

The South tried to peacefully and legally withdraw. lincoln wanted war, though.

The South attempted to strong arm the legitimate and recognized Government of the U.S. to not allow continue to allow chattel slavery but allow it's expansion into the Western Territories.

The south tried to peacefully withdraw..not "strongarm" anyone. lincolns unprovoked act of aggression is what caused the shooting when patriots repelled invaders.

Farm Animals, machinery and the Industrial Revolution are all attempts at distorting factual history as it pertains to the south's refusal to abolish slavery.

Slavery was dying out because machines were lower maintenance to own than farm animals or negroes.

So I have already refuted your fairy tales but you want to pretend otherwise...how typical.

Did the South refuse to abolish slavery???...yes or no???

Did the South want to expand slavery to the expanding Western Territories???...yes or no???

Revisionism isn't history.

Link?

Proof?

just kidding..I know you don't have any...

A link to what...now you are deflecting...answer the questions, or is it that revisionism can't stand up to facts.
Just to make you appear even more stupid, I'll post links. You could use some "real" history.

 

[Rotagilla]

Give us the best "real" version of what the south did in 1860!

well, lincoln said in 1848

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable,— most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it.
Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit.

More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement.

Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.

A. Lincoln
in Congress 1848


lincoln's first inaugural address;
March 4, 1861

Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that --

I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:

Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.



and the south foolishly took him at his word when they tried to peacefully withdraw. lincoln sent troops and ships to invade charleston and the patriotic southerners repelled the invasion....

 

[Rotagilla]

the south tried to legally and peacefully secede.
Since they were no longer part of the nation, they had no say in what the rest of the country did with the territories.Slavery was a dying practice....lincoln had to have his war, though.

Your statement is so filled with the lies of historical revisionists and those ignorant of history it looks like swiss cheese.

Good...you won't have any trouble refuting them, right?

There was never a period of time when the Southern states weren't part of the U.S.

Yes there was

Traitors attempted to subvert the Nation and were dealt with accordingly.

That's what the british said about the colonists who tried to peacefully withdraw from england.

The South tried to peacefully and legally withdraw. lincoln wanted war, though.

The South attempted to strong arm the legitimate and recognized Government of the U.S. to not allow continue to allow chattel slavery but allow it's expansion into the Western Territories.

The south tried to peacefully withdraw..not "strongarm" anyone. lincolns unprovoked act of aggression is what caused the shooting when patriots repelled invaders.

Farm Animals, machinery and the Industrial Revolution are all attempts at distorting factual history as it pertains to the south's refusal to abolish slavery.

Slavery was dying out because machines were lower maintenance to own than farm animals or negroes.

So I have already refuted your fairy tales but you want to pretend otherwise...how typical.

Did the South refuse to abolish slavery???...yes or no???

Did the South want to expand slavery to the expanding Western Territories???...yes or no???

Revisionism isn't history.

Link?

Proof?

just kidding..I know you don't have any...

A link to what...now you are deflecting...answer the questions, or is it that revisionism can't stand up to facts.
Just to make you appear even more stupid, I'll post links. You could use some "real" history.