Second amendment, should felons be allowed to own guns?

[Asclepias]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

But not according to the constitution itself... Surely you see the disconnect..? The question none of the self professed "law abiding" gun owners ask, is... when did this "felon" thing strip free men of the right to arm himself, and why? You should look into it. It isn't a hallowed foundational principle of liberty. In fact... its quite new.

Why does it matter when this law came about? I would be interested in the why as long as it doesnt involve a conspiracy theory.

It was designed to keep troublesome niqqers from getting guns when at the same time civil rights were being conferred upon them. Did I say that out loud..? Thats why every state can decide Carte Blanche what constitutes a " felony. There is no national standard as far as the crime committed. Only the " potential" penalty that may be issued by a given State. One day over a year, as a possible sentence? Your a " Felon". Youre Mr. Negro Centric. How the fuck don't you know this shit?

What do knickers have to do with guns and when did pants gain civil rights?

 

[Vastator]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

But not according to the constitution itself... Surely you see the disconnect..? The question none of the self professed "law abiding" gun owners ask, is... when did this "felon" thing strip free men of the right to arm himself, and why? You should look into it. It isn't a hallowed foundational principle of liberty. In fact... its quite new.

Why does it matter when this law came about? I would be interested in the why as long as it doesnt involve a conspiracy theory.

It was designed to keep troublesome niqqers from getting guns when at the same time civil rights were being conferred upon them. Did I say that out loud..? Thats why every state can decide Carte Blanche what constitutes a " felony. There is no national standard as far as the crime committed. Only the " potential" penalty that may be issued by a given State. One day over a year, as a possible sentence? Your a " Felon". Youre Mr. Negro Centric. How the fuck don't you know this shit?

What do knickers have to do with guns and when did pants gain civil rights?

You're welcome , Mr. " We was Kangs"...

 

[Asclepias]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

But not according to the constitution itself... Surely you see the disconnect..? The question none of the self professed "law abiding" gun owners ask, is... when did this "felon" thing strip free men of the right to arm himself, and why? You should look into it. It isn't a hallowed foundational principle of liberty. In fact... its quite new.

Why does it matter when this law came about? I would be interested in the why as long as it doesnt involve a conspiracy theory.

It was designed to keep troublesome niqqers from getting guns when at the same time civil rights were being conferred upon them. Did I say that out loud..? Thats why every state can decide Carte Blanche what constitutes a " felony. There is no national standard as far as the crime committed. Only the " potential" penalty that may be issued by a given State. One day over a year, as a possible sentence? Your a " Felon". Youre Mr. Negro Centric. How the fuck don't you know this shit?

What do knickers have to do with guns and when did pants gain civil rights?

You're welcome , Mr. " We was Kangs"...

I'm welcome to what? You dont have anything I want but thanks anyway.

 

[WinterBorn]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

 

[Jitss617]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

 

[WinterBorn]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Yes

depends on the offense. if you were convicted of a violent crime, then no, you shouldn't be allowed to ever own a firearm.

other than that - if you paid yer dues & are no longer on probation/parole, then full rights should be restored.

I know a guy that was in a basketball game, his teammate got shoved, it was a all out brawl, he was getting hit, he swung and knocked a guy out, broke his jaw, judge put him in jail, he’s out now, does he have the right to own a gun? He lives in a dangerous neon.

So he got convicted of a violent crime right?

yes he punched a guy in the face in a brawl at a basketball game

When you become a convict you give up the right to own a gun. Consequences.

Well , it used to be if you became a FELON you gave up your right to vote. But since liberals love their criminals, they now allow many to vote because the liberals say if they have done their time, they should get to vote again. If that is the way, then they should have all rights restored, not selective rights as you assholes want...

 

[Jitss617]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

If you had to go drop into Afghanistan and you had 2 side arms to chose, which one?

Either a sig 226 or a 1911 single stack. Those are your choices.

Decisions I have to make

 

[freyasman]

When you become a convict you give up the right to own a gun.

Only inalienable rights (grants and privileges) can be taken or given or given up.
Unalineabe rights are inherent, therefore not tangible, therefore cannot be given, taken, passed on etc.
They can only be restricted or ignored. The 2nd amendment clearly states: shall not be infringed- there are no caveats in shall not.

So why cant you own a LAW or hell...a nuclear weapon?

do you think those that do own nukes should have them????

Nothing in history more murderous than government, and yet there are still people who think they should decide who is armed and empowered?

You voted those people into power. You made that decision.

There's some truth to that, but it's also true that almost all of those people immediately begin ignoring the limits of the position they were elected to, and begin asserting power they were never given.

This is what the tar, feathers, ropes, and guns are for.

See this is where you guys lose me. You claim you have all these rights and the ordinance to protect them and in the next breath you claim youre being abused. Why arent you attacking the government for taking away your rights?

because they made laws that make them better armed than us,,,

but not enough that we will remain silent about it or stop fighting to get them back,,,

You do realize when you vote people into power you give them the authority to make laws that may affect you right?

...and quite often they do the wrong thing. That is why the right to keep and bear arms is included in the list of inalieable rights. To correct the wrong if needed.

But no one has ever successfully defended those rights to date. The get Waco'd

No, there have been a couple cases where guys won in court after shooting cops for kicking in their doors, but those cases don't get much press..... for reasons that should be obvious.

True but thats not the same thing. Someone kicks in my door they will get shot but not because I'm protecting my rights?

What are you protecting then?

My life and the lives of those I love.

Do you and your loved ones have the right to live in peace?

No. Who told you that you had a right to peace? The essence of life is noisy. Its reacting and acting within your environment to stay alive. The only absolute is that you survive and even thats not a right.

Okay, do you have a right to defend your life and that of your loved ones?
Do you have the right to try?

Or are you just livestock?

Nope you dont have the right to do anything except die and if medical staff is available not even that if they can keep you alive. Correct me if I am wrong but isnt a right something that can be forcibly taken from you? If so, what is it that cannot be forcibly taken from you? A right is simply something someone bestowed on you.

Its not an either or question. I may not have a right but I am damn sure going to do what I need to until I am unable to do it.

I disagree.

 

[Unkotare]

Why are these jitler clown posts on this forum? This isn't the FZ or the Badlands.

 

[freyasman]

Yes

depends on the offense. if you were convicted of a violent crime, then no, you shouldn't be allowed to ever own a firearm.

other than that - if you paid yer dues & are no longer on probation/parole, then full rights should be restored.

I know a guy that was in a basketball game, his teammate got shoved, it was a all out brawl, he was getting hit, he swung and knocked a guy out, broke his jaw, judge put him in jail, he’s out now, does he have the right to own a gun? He lives in a dangerous neon.

So he got convicted of a violent crime right?

yes he punched a guy in the face in a brawl at a basketball game

When you become a convict you give up the right to own a gun. Consequences.

Well , it used to be if you became a FELON you gave up your right to vote. But since liberals love their criminals, they now allow many to vote because the liberals say if they have done their time, they should get to vote again. If that is the way, then they should have all rights restored, not selective rights as you assholes want...

If the government didn't constantly overstep it's authority and do shit it was never granted the power to do, would anyone care if felons voted?
Would it matter?

 

[Flash]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

However, the Supreme Court has yet to determine the level of scrutiny the Second Amendment should get.

The States and Locals and at times even the Federals have ignored that the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, even when Heller said it is an individual right the same as freedom of speech and religion.

It is time to fix that.

Hopefully this case from New York that the Supreme have agreed to review will establish Strict Scrutiny to the right to keep and bear arms and put an end to all the oppressive state and local regulations. Maybe even overturn the filthy NFA laws.

 

[WinterBorn]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

If you had to go drop into Afghanistan and you had 2 side arms to chose, which one?

Either a sig 226 or a 1911 single stack. Those are your choices.

Decisions I have to make

Bullshit. The military wouldn't take you because of your felony record, or so you claimed.

Besides, wouldn't the unit you are with (in your fantasy) want all sidearms to have the same caliber?

 

[freyasman]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

If you had to go drop into Afghanistan and you had 2 side arms to chose, which one?

Either a sig 226 or a 1911 single stack. Those are your choices.

Decisions I have to make

I chose to carry a few more mags for my M14 the first time, and my M4 on the rest of my vacations there. They seemed to be more useful, IMO.

 

[WinterBorn]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

If you had to go drop into Afghanistan and you had 2 side arms to chose, which one?

Either a sig 226 or a 1911 single stack. Those are your choices.

Decisions I have to make

I chose to carry a few more mags for my M14 the first time, and my M4 on the rest of my vacations there. They seemed to be more useful, IMO.

When I was in the Navy, the armory still had the M14. I liked it. More range and fire power.

 

[Jitss617]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

If you had to go drop into Afghanistan and you had 2 side arms to chose, which one?

Either a sig 226 or a 1911 single stack. Those are your choices.

Decisions I have to make

I chose to carry a few more mags for my M14 the first time, and my M4 on the rest of my vacations there. They seemed to be more useful, IMO.

Yes I belong to this security group I can carry over there but not on my own land. Stupid

 

[freyasman]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

If you had to go drop into Afghanistan and you had 2 side arms to chose, which one?

Either a sig 226 or a 1911 single stack. Those are your choices.

Decisions I have to make

I chose to carry a few more mags for my M14 the first time, and my M4 on the rest of my vacations there. They seemed to be more useful, IMO.

When I was in the Navy, the armory still had the M14. I liked it. More range and fire power.

Love that rifle, still got an M1A of my own.


Humping those steel mags full of 7.62 up and down mountains in Afghanistan was no joke though.

 

[Unkotare]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

If you had to go drop into Afghanistan and you had 2 side arms to chose, which one?

Either a sig 226 or a 1911 single stack. Those are your choices.

Decisions I have to make

I chose to carry a few more mags for my M14 the first time, and my M4 on the rest of my vacations there. They seemed to be more useful, IMO.

Yes I belong to this security group I can carry over there but not on my own land. Stupid

You don't belong to any "security group," troll.

 

[freyasman]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

If you had to go drop into Afghanistan and you had 2 side arms to chose, which one?

Either a sig 226 or a 1911 single stack. Those are your choices.

Decisions I have to make

I chose to carry a few more mags for my M14 the first time, and my M4 on the rest of my vacations there. They seemed to be more useful, IMO.

Yes I belong to this security group I can carry over there but not on my own land. Stupid

What company?

 

[Unkotare]

I think the question is whether or not the felony conviction was for violent crimes.

Multiple violent felonies would show you should not be allowed to own a modern firearm.

Why Not what the constitution says

According to the US Supreme Court, the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution can still be regulated.

You support them? I Lynched a nicca in roslindale tonight, I followed him, he talked shit, I took him
Out,, what do you gotta say?

I simply stated a fact. And it has been upheld from multiple US Supreme Court decisions, from the act that restricted automatic weapons in the 1930s, through the Gun Control Act of 1968. And the 1st amendment has seen restrictions too. Such as laws against inciting to riot ect.

As for your claims of lynching someone? What do I have to say? I'd say it was just like your claim that you have been trained to hold an M230 chaingun in each hand and fire them at the same time. Or that you have a special federal permit to carry weapons most people can't own. I'd say it is bullshit.

Jitler, I see that you reacted with the laughing icon. I agree. Your claims have been good for laughs.

Your anti Frontier justice is funny

"anti Frontier justice"? lol Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

If you had to go drop into Afghanistan and you had 2 side arms to chose, which one?

Either a sig 226 or a 1911 single stack. Those are your choices.

Decisions I have to make

I chose to carry a few more mags for my M14 the first time, and my M4 on the rest of my vacations there. They seemed to be more useful, IMO.

Yes I belong to this security group I can carry over there but not on my own land. Stupid

What company?

He'll say he can't tell you. If pressed for any details, the stupid little fiction will become more and more ridiculous and obvious. It's all the troll EVER does.