Serious proposal for the gun control crowd

[P@triot]

lefty shrinks with an agenda would be a problem

Not it wouldn’t. Not in my proposal. Read it again. You saw what you wanted to see instead of what was written.

 

[P@triot]

..the US has the highest gun ownership in the world

And? So? Why is that a problem for you? We also have the highest homeownership in the world. Neither one is relevant to the discussion here.

 

[OnePercenter]

Is a poor with credit conservative who continuously votes against his own best interests mentally stable?

There is no such thing as a conservative who “votes against his own self-interest”. That is exclusively a left-wing phenomenon. Voting for the government to confiscate what you have and then control your life is the type special kind of stupid that can only come from the left.

Voting for liberty is never voting against self-interest.

I think the following describes you and yours.

"However, I regard the Libertarianism as a kind of business-worshiping cultish religion, which churns out annoying flamers who resemble nothing so much as street-preachers on the Information Sidewalk."

Libertarianism Makes You Stupid

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The gun problem and the opioid problem have the same causes. The manufacturers of both knew they were making way, way, way more than was needed for legal purposes.

They deliberately flooded the markets in the name of chasing higher and higher profits.

Dude we do not have a gun problem
What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

Sounds like the weapon of choice for killers. Maybe that's why countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a fraction of ours.

Three-quarters of all U.S. murders in 2017 – 14,542 out of 19,510 – involved a firearm.

I don't know why don't you ask Paris how well did their gun ban stop their mass shootings
ask England why they have a knife epidemic.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

..the US has the highest gun ownership in the world

And? So? Why is that a problem for you? We also have the highest homeownership in the world. Neither one is relevant to the discussion here.

Because even though we have more guns our murder rate is low.

 

[there4eyeM]

Obviously, the reason militias are mentioned in the cited amendment is that training/responsibility was expected to go along with the "right" guaranteed, as there are no rights without responsibility.
Then, there is the equally obvious matter of the evolution of firearms to an extent the 'founders' could not have foreseen...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

WRONG
Your numbers are way too high
Homicides are around 1300
The rest are police shootings and gang-related.

Your reliable source and working link, please.

Here Are 8 Stubborn Facts on Gun Violence in America

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Obviously, the reason militias are mentioned in the cited amendment is that training/responsibility was expected to go along with the "right" guaranteed, as there are no rights without responsibility.
Then, there is the equally obvious matter of the evolution of firearms to an extent the 'founders' could not have foreseen...

Ever heard of the puckle gun?

 

[JoeB131]

So, they DO belong in government hands, where we can trust that they will not be used against the people?



Disarm government first. Then, we'll talk. Otherwise, I want fucking machine gun, minimum.

This is the kind of crazy talk I was on about.

Hey, why not let civilians have nuclear weapons, by that logic.

WE MUST BAN ALCOHOL, they said back in the 1910s.

That worked out GREAT.

Banning anything is not only useless but highly authoritative and wrong.

Actually, you should look into the history of Prohibition, and how it was used as the kind of anti-immigrant crazy we are doing now. It was sold in WWI as a way to get those nasty German Immigrants under control, no one really thought their booze was going to be taken away, until it was.

 

[JoeB131]

No, you misunderstood. People will not be going to this therapy. The firearms will. The left's official stance is that guns are responsible. So let's get the guns trained in the value of human life and lets get them cleared by professional psychiatrists.

So you were being sarcastic and had no intent to have a serious conversation, then.

If you go back to my original post and read what was actually written, I can say with 100% absolute certainty that there is 0 chance of your concern coming to fruition. But again, it requires you to read what was actually written instead of seeing what you wanted to see in that post.

Okay, I guess we misunderstood when you said you wanted to have a serious conversation about gun control.

 

[sparky]

Obviously, the reason militias are mentioned in the cited amendment is that training/responsibility was expected to go along with the "right" guaranteed, as there are no rights without responsibility.

nail/head....

That the same sorts howling freedom isn't free wish consistent irresponsibility reeks of cognitive dissonance

~S~

 

[Hellbilly]

A mental heath evaluation every 2 years for all gun owners.

No exemptions.


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Who does the evaluation? WHO sets the standard for a designation of "Mentally Healthy"?

I think it should be you.


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[Hellbilly]

I don't believe there is a gun control debate. Just liberals trying to disarm American citizens at the behest of the UN.
We voted no on that in 2016 and intend to do it again next year.

Absolutely. We have this thing about lunatics killing our kids.



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[Hellbilly]

A mental heath evaluation every 2 years for all gun owners.

No exemptions.

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Which militia are you a member of?


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[sparky]

Which militia are you a member of?

N.I.M.S......the biggest one

~S~

 

[Hellbilly]

Which militia are you a member of?

N.I.M.S......the biggest one

~S~

I wasn’t asking you.


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[sparky]

I wasn’t asking you.

I know....

just throwing that out for those flexin' militia muscle Billy

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[Markle]

A mental heath evaluation every 2 years for all gun owners.

No exemptions.

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Which militia are you a member of?


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Why would I be a member of a militia?

If that's your question, my guess is that you need to be a member of an English punctuation class. Just sayin'!

 

[Markle]

Which militia are you a member of?

N.I.M.S......the biggest one

~S~

I wasn’t asking you.


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Why are you so rude? What difference does it make? You know, in the words of Hillary Clinton.

 

[Kentucky_Conservative]

[A mental heath evaluation every 2 years for all gun owners.

No exemptions.


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Who does the evaluation? WHO sets the standard for a designation of "Mentally Healthy"?

I think it should be you.

I will not be me, because I UNDERSTAND what "The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed" truly means.