Seriously, why does anyone like Trump?

[bitter clinging swiftie]

you are being a bit dishonest, intellectually
behaviors that violate the rights of others of course don't fall into the category of "don't like it, don't do it"

And you are the one that gets to decide which actions effect others and which don't?

Changing the meaning of the word marriage was not something that did not effect others.

It was MEANT to effect others. That is why they did it the way they did it.

all I am sayin, dude, is this
maybe you don't approve of 30 round mags.......BUT me having a 30 round mag is none of your biz
maybe you think weed is evil....but me twisting up a doob in my own home is none of your biz

Maybe I don't want my child growing up in a nation with legalized drugs. THat effects ME.

so do you think booze, porn and racism should be banned too?

It's okay that his opinion doesn't match yours.

oh,I agree totally, of course its cool that our opinions aren't the same.....I welcome my way of thinking being challenged, especially by guys like him who do it in a respectful manner

 

[ElmerMudd]

Why don't you put together a list. You will not be able to.

Not unless I had more than one lifetime! But I did make a partial list of many Hillary things once. Why don't you get started squeaking this? But you want me to put a list together, do a full research project for you so you will deny it? Sure, if you pay me. I get $60/hr. You can retain me by depositing $600 for the first ten hours in my paypal account.

Why Trump's Not So Bad

Read away, baby.

still cannot make a list as long as Trump's. Not even close.

Anyone can make a long list if they are making shit up and taking stuff out of context. And that is all that list is. Put another way, WHAT PERSON HAS THE TIME TO SIT AROUND AND NOTE AND COMPILE EVERY SINGLE PHRASE TRUMP SAYS AS A LIE SINCE HIS FIRST DAY IN OFFICE UNLESS THEY SET OUT AT THE START PAID BY THEIR EMPLOYER TO SPECIFICALLY MAKE A LIST OF TRUMP LIES?

The question is, how would you know they were lies before he even said them unless compiling a list of alleged lies was your goal to begin with?

But there are lots of lists of terrible things done by Obama and Hillary. My link above is one of them. I have lists for Obama too, one is 252 items long, of actual BAD THINGS DONE. People hurt, billions wasted or stolen, industries manipulated, secret deals, country harmed, cronyism for personal gain. Not lies, words, but ACTIONS that hurt the country.

Actions are far worse than mere words. As they say, talk is cheap. Words can never hurt you. But then you knew that, that is why you are keying in on alleged words. While Trump chalks up great accomplishment after great accomplishment much to the ignoring of the press, you try to conceal that by claiming endless lies. That is subterfuge.

WE ARE ON TO YOU.

you are saying you cannot do it

 

[John Shaw]

you are being a bit dishonest, intellectually
behaviors that violate the rights of others of course don't fall into the category of "don't like it, don't do it"

And you are the one that gets to decide which actions effect others and which don't?

Changing the meaning of the word marriage was not something that did not effect others.

It was MEANT to effect others. That is why they did it the way they did it.

all I am sayin, dude, is this
maybe you don't approve of 30 round mags.......BUT me having a 30 round mag is none of your biz
maybe you think weed is evil....but me twisting up a doob in my own home is none of your biz

Maybe I don't want my child growing up in a nation with legalized drugs. THat effects ME.

so do you think booze, porn and racism should be banned too?

I have no objection if some communities want to ban alcohol or pornography.

I certainly have no desire to have a strip club in my residential community that I would have to explain to my child.

It seems like you have no confidence in your ability to instill the values you want in your children.

Temptations are going to be there, whether they're legal or not. Weed is illegal, yet kids who want to smoke it do, and those who don't, don't. It's laughably easy to get one's hands on. It's not as though its illegality is making it any less accessible.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The republicans can't even pass a healthcare bill despite having all the power. They're failures. And Trump himself is a moral crisis and a complete disappointment. I'd hoped he'd magically grow up after taking office, but he's a 70-year old manchild, so I guess that hope was in vain.

Jobs were increasing under Obama.

Deregulation ... jury's still out on that one.

Self-deportation is good.

Ban on lobbying, I doubt will have any serious effect. It's just a bone thrown to Trump's anti-establishment followers to distract them while he pumps his administration full of fat cats just like him.

You people should realize that it is more about not liking the prospect of Hillary as President and continuation of Obama's policies. Bring it on. Impeach all you want. At this point, what difference does it make? You didn't build that.

 

[toobfreak]

How exactly did allowing gays to marry affect others, other than shifting finances around slightly? It's actually a perfect example of a freedom that has minimal effect on those not personally involved.

Freedom? What happened to the freedom of the photographer who was closed by the DOJ because he didn't want to shoot a gay wedding?

Freedom? What happened to the freedom of a bakery shop who didn't want to make a cake for a gay couple because what they wanted to put on the cake was an offense to their religious morals?

 

[Correll]

How exactly did allowing gays to marry affect others, other than shifting finances around slightly? It's actually a perfect example of a freedom that has minimal effect on those not personally involved.

The whole argument was crafted as a deconstruction tactic aimed at Traditional American CUlture and at getting gay marriage only as a secondary goal.

They smeared and insulted and attempted to marginalize ANYONE and EVERYTHING that didn't fall completely in line with them.

Except for dem politicians who had to get elected. THey got passes.

Is that a fact, or just your opinion? Because it sounds like your opinion.

What exactly do you object to? Gay marriage, or "deconstructing the traditional American culture", as you put it?

I objected to the way that people who did not agree with the tactic of redefining a word in order to justify judicial activism were viciously smeared and marginalized.

Except for certain important dem politicians of course. They got a pass.


Because modern "liberals" only pretend to care about "traditionally oppressed groups" when they can use that as a weapon to gain partisan advantage.

Well, I was never involved in smearing anyone. I thought gay marriage was fine. Didn't really hurt me, and if it made someone else happy, then why not? I don't understand the position against it, but I didn't smear people who took it, and I don't think anyone should have, or should, unless they are railing against gays or something. In which case, they should be criticized.

I didn't say you did it personally.

But I saw a lot of that done. Often as a thinly veiled anti-christian bigotry move.

 

[toobfreak]

Why don't you put together a list. You will not be able to.

Not unless I had more than one lifetime! But I did make a partial list of many Hillary things once. Why don't you get started squeaking this? But you want me to put a list together, do a full research project for you so you will deny it? Sure, if you pay me. I get $60/hr. You can retain me by depositing $600 for the first ten hours in my paypal account.

Why Trump's Not So Bad

Read away, baby.

still cannot make a list as long as Trump's. Not even close.

Anyone can make a long list if they are making shit up and taking stuff out of context. And that is all that list is. Put another way, WHAT PERSON HAS THE TIME TO SIT AROUND AND NOTE AND COMPILE EVERY SINGLE PHRASE TRUMP SAYS AS A LIE SINCE HIS FIRST DAY IN OFFICE UNLESS THEY SET OUT AT THE START PAID BY THEIR EMPLOYER TO SPECIFICALLY MAKE A LIST OF TRUMP LIES?

The question is, how would you know they were lies before he even said them unless compiling a list of alleged lies was your goal to begin with?

But there are lots of lists of terrible things done by Obama and Hillary. My link above is one of them. I have lists for Obama too, one is 252 items long, of actual BAD THINGS DONE. People hurt, billions wasted or stolen, industries manipulated, secret deals, country harmed, cronyism for personal gain. Not lies, words, but ACTIONS that hurt the country.

Actions are far worse than mere words. As they say, talk is cheap. Words can never hurt you. But then you knew that, that is why you are keying in on alleged words. While Trump chalks up great accomplishment after great accomplishment much to the ignoring of the press, you try to conceal that by claiming endless lies. That is subterfuge.

WE ARE ON TO YOU.

you are saying you cannot do it

Idiot. You don't know what the fuck you even read. I might as well talk to the dog.

 

[John Shaw]

How exactly did allowing gays to marry affect others, other than shifting finances around slightly? It's actually a perfect example of a freedom that has minimal effect on those not personally involved.

Freedom? What happened to the freedom of the photographer who was closed by the DOJ because he didn't want to shoot a gay wedding?

Freedom? What happened to the freedom of a bakery shop who didn't want to make a cake for a gay couple because what they wanted to put on the cake was an offense to their religious morals?

Blame that on the regressives. I certainly never endorsed those things. I believe that small businesses should have the right to stick to their values. If those values are anathema to the majority, they'll just flush themselves out of business.

 

[Correll]

And you are the one that gets to decide which actions effect others and which don't?

Changing the meaning of the word marriage was not something that did not effect others.

It was MEANT to effect others. That is why they did it the way they did it.

all I am sayin, dude, is this
maybe you don't approve of 30 round mags.......BUT me having a 30 round mag is none of your biz
maybe you think weed is evil....but me twisting up a doob in my own home is none of your biz

Maybe I don't want my child growing up in a nation with legalized drugs. THat effects ME.

so do you think booze, porn and racism should be banned too?

I have no objection if some communities want to ban alcohol or pornography.

I certainly have no desire to have a strip club in my residential community that I would have to explain to my child.

It seems like you have no confidence in your ability to instill the values you want in your children.

...

Damn straight I don't and anyone who does is a fool.

The world is full of assholes with asshole messages trying to spread them for various reasons.

 

[bitter clinging swiftie]

How exactly did allowing gays to marry affect others, other than shifting finances around slightly? It's actually a perfect example of a freedom that has minimal effect on those not personally involved.

Freedom? What happened to the freedom of the photographer who was closed by the DOJ because he didn't want to shoot a gay wedding?

Freedom? What happened to the freedom of a bakery shop who didn't want to make a cake for a gay couple because what they wanted to put on the cake was an offense to their religious morals?

as controversial as this might be, I think a business should have the right to discrimante on whatever basis they want to

 

[bitter clinging swiftie]

you are being a bit dishonest, intellectually
behaviors that violate the rights of others of course don't fall into the category of "don't like it, don't do it"

And you are the one that gets to decide which actions effect others and which don't?

Changing the meaning of the word marriage was not something that did not effect others.

It was MEANT to effect others. That is why they did it the way they did it.

all I am sayin, dude, is this
maybe you don't approve of 30 round mags.......BUT me having a 30 round mag is none of your biz
maybe you think weed is evil....but me twisting up a doob in my own home is none of your biz

Maybe I don't want my child growing up in a nation with legalized drugs. THat effects ME.

so do you think booze, porn and racism should be banned too?

I have no objection if some communities want to ban alcohol or pornography.

I certainly have no desire to have a strip club in my residential community that I would have to explain to my child.

do you believe in property rights or not?

 

[ElmerMudd]

Why don't you put together a list. You will not be able to.

Not unless I had more than one lifetime! But I did make a partial list of many Hillary things once. Why don't you get started squeaking this? But you want me to put a list together, do a full research project for you so you will deny it? Sure, if you pay me. I get $60/hr. You can retain me by depositing $600 for the first ten hours in my paypal account.

Why Trump's Not So Bad

Read away, baby.

still cannot make a list as long as Trump's. Not even close.

Anyone can make a long list if they are making shit up and taking stuff out of context. And that is all that list is. Put another way, WHAT PERSON HAS THE TIME TO SIT AROUND AND NOTE AND COMPILE EVERY SINGLE PHRASE TRUMP SAYS AS A LIE SINCE HIS FIRST DAY IN OFFICE UNLESS THEY SET OUT AT THE START PAID BY THEIR EMPLOYER TO SPECIFICALLY MAKE A LIST OF TRUMP LIES?

The question is, how would you know they were lies before he even said them unless compiling a list of alleged lies was your goal to begin with?

But there are lots of lists of terrible things done by Obama and Hillary. My link above is one of them. I have lists for Obama too, one is 252 items long, of actual BAD THINGS DONE. People hurt, billions wasted or stolen, industries manipulated, secret deals, country harmed, cronyism for personal gain. Not lies, words, but ACTIONS that hurt the country.

Actions are far worse than mere words. As they say, talk is cheap. Words can never hurt you. But then you knew that, that is why you are keying in on alleged words. While Trump chalks up great accomplishment after great accomplishment much to the ignoring of the press, you try to conceal that by claiming endless lies. That is subterfuge.

WE ARE ON TO YOU.

you are saying you cannot do it

Idiot. You don't know what the fuck you even read. I might as well talk to the dog.

You can shut me up; produce a list.
You are producing whiny excuses.

 

[whitehall]

Better than anyone? Seriously the post doesn't add anything to the political discourse. It's a billboard for crazy angry lefties to vent their incoherent anger and use the "F" word. When it comes to screwups and CYA adventures you have to admit that nobody in history did it better than Hillary's husband. You have to scratch your head in disbelief that the mainstream media never apologized for supporting Bill Clinton's bombing of Europe when he was literally caught with his pants down. It's estimated that the U.S. based bombing campaign on defenseless Yugoslavia/Bosnia cost the lives of about 5,000 innocent civilians while the gang that tried the first WTC bombing went on to freaking flight school in Florida learning how to navigate a 747 into a freaking building.

 

[SavannahMann]

We avoided the not quite clever enough crook. I'll take well intentioned but bumbling over ill intentioned and inept.

Yet, after 25 years of trying
Republicans never established any illegal activity by Hillary

Trump is in worse shape after only six months

Not being prosecuted is not the same is not committing a crime. If anything, Hillary has demonstrated that power and position protect those who reach it.

Yes it is

Especially with Republicans crying wolf so often
Republicans used their power and position to investigate her for 25 years.

Came up with squat didn't they?

Right.

Mistrial declared for third time for ex-cop accused of killing daughter's black boyfriend

?

That cop murdered a man. So far, he hasn't been convicted. Does that mean the murder never happened? Does it mean he didn't shoot the black man who was his daughters boyfriend?

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

I'm Asian and grew up in California, and I still live here. That's reason enough for me to vote for Trump.

 

[jillian]

I've tried, but I can't find anything good to say about him, except that he's amazing at fucking up and then getting someone else to pay for it. He does that better than anyone. Not sure that's a good quality to have in a president, though.

Otherwise, what is actually good about him?

Oh, and before someone tries to call me on a double-standard, I didn't like Hillary either, but at least she had the fake veneer of class and sophistication. Trump doesn't even have that. He's basically the world's most successful used car salesman.

Also, keep in mind that liberalism is the belief in freedom. So, unless you hate freedom, you're a liberal. Sorry to break it to you.

because they're lowlifes like he is? course... crass... uninformed.... delusional.... bordering on treasonous.

as long as he's their internet troll of a president, the scum love him.

 

[jillian]

I'm Asian and grew up in California, and I still live here. That's reason enough for me to vote for Trump.

voting for someone who hates you makes you feel good"?

that's pretty freaking stupid.

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

I'm Asian and grew up in California, and I still live here. That's reason enough for me to vote for Trump.

voting for someone who hates you makes you feel good"?

that's pretty freaking stupid.

That's hilarious since liberals are the KKK for Asian people.

 

[LuckyDuck]

I've tried, but I can't find anything good to say about him, except that he's amazing at fucking up and then getting someone else to pay for it. He does that better than anyone. Not sure that's a good quality to have in a president, though.

Otherwise, what is actually good about him?

Oh, and before someone tries to call me on a double-standard, I didn't like Hillary either, but at least she had the fake veneer of class and sophistication. Trump doesn't even have that. He's basically the world's most successful used car salesman.

Also, keep in mind that liberalism is the belief in freedom. So, unless you hate freedom, you're a liberal. Sorry to break it to you.

Four years of late night talk show comedy skits (especially Alec Baldwin as Trump).
Watching the far-left both implode and explode at the same time.
That aside, let's move on to the more concrete things.
1. It's the current liberals who clearly hate freedom and the nation that has drawn millions to it to pursue their dreams. Trump clearly lacks any decent grammatical skills, however, his opponent and her ilk, expressed the following:
a. No borders (nations without borders aren't sovereign nations, they're just one vast tract of land adjoining each other, with people strolling across the land into other areas (people like....oh.....thieves, murderers, rapists, drug dealers, terrorists and other assortments of unsavory individuals. Maintaining borders (strong borders with good vetting) reduces the flow of potential criminals and such. Also, with no borders, you have a situation like what is happening in Europe. The number of rapes soar due to the influx of Muslims. The crimes and riots skyrocket due to the Muslim migration into Europe. The people in those nations no longer have a say in their nations as Brussels and Germany make the decisions for Europe. In short, foreign entities decide for people, not the people themselves.
b. The far-left protesters are chanting that there should be "no free speech" for those who disagree with them; thus no free speech.
c. The far-left protesters are chanting that there should be "no privately owned property," thus negating what drew people here in the millions.
d. The far-left protesters are complaining that the republicans are "nationalists." I hate to burst their far-left/socialist/proto-communist thought processes, but Fidel Castro, Che Guevera (who many wear t-shirts of), Stalin, Mao tse-tung, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John Kennedy were nationalists. Nothing wrong with believing in having a sovereign nation.
e. The far-left is calling the Trump administration "Nazis and Fascists." Interesting. The Nazi party was a "socialist" party, which republicans aren't.
Mussolini was head of an actual "Fascist" party.
f. The far-left is claiming Trump is anti-immigration. He's not anti-immigrant. He's pro-"legal" immigration. He has nothing against anyone entering through the legal process and thus being thoroughly "vetted" to ensure that you're not a terrorist or criminal. By the way, those people crossing our borders illegally.......aren't immigrants. The word immigrant implies that an individual crossed a border via legal channels, what is slipping over the border are what is called...."illegal aliens." The operative word here is "illegal." Come through legally.
g. Trump isn't pro-KKK. He disavowed them when they announced their support for him. He's disavowed them on multiple occasions. This may come as a surprise, but the KKK has been around since the late 1800's and they support presidential candidates in "every" presidential election that has gone on since the late 1800's.
h. One of the things Trump has run on was.....JOBS, and he's going about making it easier to hire people and for companies to stay here.
i. The Muslim travel restriction. The countries listed in the travel restriction were the same ones your precious Obama was going to restrict travel from; he just implemented it. Those nations have no way of confirming who we are getting for migrating individuals. Personally, since Islam seeks the destruction of not just the west, but of all non-Islamic nations, I would prefer no one coming in from any nation any longer. End immigration altogether.

 

[toobfreak]

Blame that on the regressives. I certainly never endorsed those things. I believe that small businesses should have the right to stick to their values. If those values are anathema to the majority, they'll just flush themselves out of business.

Then I'll have to blame it on the Progressives, the Activists, the Obama Leftist Socialists, because it was Holder's DOJ that did that all.