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You might not believe this, but most people don't carry a gun when they go to someone's house to watch football- even in Texas.That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
You might not believe this, but most people don't carry a gun when they go to someone's house to watch football- even in Texas.That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
Is it that they don't carry or others don't know they are carrying?
Seriously?!Agreed domestic violence is one of the top forms of violence in the US, but, tragic as it is, as the stats below prove, not an "epidemic".You say that as though you're unaware of the fact that relationship violence is epidemic in this country. Three women are killed every day by a current or former partner - and leaving is the most deadly time of all. Abusers aren't at all averse to also murdering children and other family members because of their anger over 'a relationship gone sour'. Domestic violence incidents are also the most deadly type of call-out for the police.That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
CDC: Half Of All Female Homicide Victims Are Killed By Intimate Partners
More than half of female homicide victims were killed in connection to intimate partner violence — and in 10 percent of those cases, violence shortly before the killing might have provided an opportunity for intervention.
That is according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, published Thursday, that takes a close look at the homicides of women.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers
Expanded Homicide Data
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ep·i·dem·ic
ˌepəˈdemik/
noun
adjective
- 1.
a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.
"a flu epidemic"
synonyms: outbreak, plague, pandemic, epizootic
"an epidemic of typhoid"
- 1.
relating to or of the nature of an epidemic.
"shoplifting has reached epidemic proportions"
synonyms: rife, rampant, widespread, wide-ranging, extensive, pervasive
Seriously?!Agreed domestic violence is one of the top forms of violence in the US, but, tragic as it is, as the stats below prove, not an "epidemic".You say that as though you're unaware of the fact that relationship violence is epidemic in this country. Three women are killed every day by a current or former partner - and leaving is the most deadly time of all. Abusers aren't at all averse to also murdering children and other family members because of their anger over 'a relationship gone sour'. Domestic violence incidents are also the most deadly type of call-out for the police.That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
CDC: Half Of All Female Homicide Victims Are Killed By Intimate Partners
More than half of female homicide victims were killed in connection to intimate partner violence — and in 10 percent of those cases, violence shortly before the killing might have provided an opportunity for intervention.
That is according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, published Thursday, that takes a close look at the homicides of women.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers
Expanded Homicide Data
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How many women would need to be murdered or assaulted by spouses/former spouses for you to consider it an epidemic?!
Domestic violence's real cost: Nearly three women die every day
I've had hundreds of hours in domestic violence training with advocates and law enforcement and attorneys and judges; it is a commonly accepted statistic among all these groups that approximately 70% of domestic violence goes unreported, so the statistics we know for certain are the tip of the iceberg.
Statistics
ep·i·dem·ic
ˌepəˈdemik/
noun
adjective
- 1.
a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.
"a flu epidemic"
synonyms: outbreak, plague, pandemic, epizootic
"an epidemic of typhoid"
- 1.
relating to or of the nature of an epidemic.
"shoplifting has reached epidemic proportions"
synonyms: rife, rampant, widespread, wide-ranging, extensive, pervasive
I'm assuming you didn't bother to click the statistics link I included, because the NCADV is very proactive about including stats of male victims and domestic violence projects nationwide have made very concerted efforts to reach out to male victims for at least 2 decades now.Seriously?!Agreed domestic violence is one of the top forms of violence in the US, but, tragic as it is, as the stats below prove, not an "epidemic".You say that as though you're unaware of the fact that relationship violence is epidemic in this country. Three women are killed every day by a current or former partner - and leaving is the most deadly time of all. Abusers aren't at all averse to also murdering children and other family members because of their anger over 'a relationship gone sour'. Domestic violence incidents are also the most deadly type of call-out for the police.That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
CDC: Half Of All Female Homicide Victims Are Killed By Intimate Partners
More than half of female homicide victims were killed in connection to intimate partner violence — and in 10 percent of those cases, violence shortly before the killing might have provided an opportunity for intervention.
That is according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, published Thursday, that takes a close look at the homicides of women.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers
Expanded Homicide Data
![]()
How many women would need to be murdered or assaulted by spouses/former spouses for you to consider it an epidemic?!
Domestic violence's real cost: Nearly three women die every day
I've had hundreds of hours in domestic violence training with advocates and law enforcement and attorneys and judges; it is a commonly accepted statistic among all these groups that approximately 70% of domestic violence goes unreported, so the statistics we know for certain are the tip of the iceberg.
Statistics
ep·i·dem·ic
ˌepəˈdemik/
noun
adjective
- 1.
a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.
"a flu epidemic"
synonyms: outbreak, plague, pandemic, epizootic
"an epidemic of typhoid"
- 1.
relating to or of the nature of an epidemic.
"shoplifting has reached epidemic proportions"
synonyms: rife, rampant, widespread, wide-ranging, extensive, pervasive
I certainly won't disagree that women are the victim of domestic violence. I will add for the purposes of fairness to those on the other side, that domestic violence against men occurs often and is very under reported. It might have improved over the years as the stigma isn't what it used to be, but it exists in many more cases than one would expect.
Violence against anyone outside of self defense is not right.
Right, Do you know some muslims shooter that you could share with us at my thread ?![]()
A police officer investigates after a shooting at a home in Plano, north of Dallas, Tex., Sunday night.
(Vernon Bryant/The Dallas Morning News via AP)
September 11, 2017
A Texas police officer shot a suspected gunman dead and found seven more slain inside a suburban Dallas home during a football party Sunday night.
A flurry of gunfire led authorities to the gruesome discovery inside a Plano home around 8 p.m., police said.
The first cop to the crime scene confronted the shooter inside and shot him dead, Plano police spokesman Officer David Tilley told reporters.
Two more people were wounded in the deadly attack and rushed to a hospital near the Dallas suburb. Their conditions were not immediately known.
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Police gather outside the Plano home where eight people, including the shooter, were killed.
(WFAA 8 News)
Police said all the victims were adults.
Witness Crystal Sugg said she heard a man and woman arguing moments before the gunfire.
“As she was going to the house, he started letting go. Just started releasing,”
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Two more people were wounded in the deadly incident, authorities said.
(LM Otero/AP)
The shooting took place as the victims watched the Dallas Cowboys battle the New York Giants at AT&T Stadium,
The paper states an unidentified man expressed agony after speaking with a neighbor and learning he was likely friends with most of the victims shot at the home.
The victims and suspect were not immediately identified.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/people-found-shot-death-texas-home-shooter-killed-article-1.3485744
Oh, the fun of guns.
Had he been Muslim people would be going insane right now, but as he's most likely a Christian Texan, it's okay.
Yes, serious. Obviously you didn't read the links nor my post. Have a really nice day, ma'm.Seriously?!Agreed domestic violence is one of the top forms of violence in the US, but, tragic as it is, as the stats below prove, not an "epidemic".You say that as though you're unaware of the fact that relationship violence is epidemic in this country. Three women are killed every day by a current or former partner - and leaving is the most deadly time of all. Abusers aren't at all averse to also murdering children and other family members because of their anger over 'a relationship gone sour'. Domestic violence incidents are also the most deadly type of call-out for the police.That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
CDC: Half Of All Female Homicide Victims Are Killed By Intimate Partners
More than half of female homicide victims were killed in connection to intimate partner violence — and in 10 percent of those cases, violence shortly before the killing might have provided an opportunity for intervention.
That is according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, published Thursday, that takes a close look at the homicides of women.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers
Expanded Homicide Data
![]()
How many women would need to be murdered or assaulted by spouses/former spouses for you to consider it an epidemic?!
Domestic violence's real cost: Nearly three women die every day
I've had hundreds of hours in domestic violence training with advocates and law enforcement and attorneys and judges; it is a commonly accepted statistic among all these groups that approximately 70% of domestic violence goes unreported, so the statistics we know for certain are the tip of the iceberg.
Statistics
ep·i·dem·ic
ˌepəˈdemik/
noun
adjective
- 1.
a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.
"a flu epidemic"
synonyms: outbreak, plague, pandemic, epizootic
"an epidemic of typhoid"
- 1.
relating to or of the nature of an epidemic.
"shoplifting has reached epidemic proportions"
synonyms: rife, rampant, widespread, wide-ranging, extensive, pervasive
Agreed that female on male domestic violence is under reported and agreed that violence shouldn't be used except in self-defense or the defense of another. However, the stats on male on female violence completely overwhelm even accurately reported female on male violence as previously posted stats reveal.Seriously?!Agreed domestic violence is one of the top forms of violence in the US, but, tragic as it is, as the stats below prove, not an "epidemic".You say that as though you're unaware of the fact that relationship violence is epidemic in this country. Three women are killed every day by a current or former partner - and leaving is the most deadly time of all. Abusers aren't at all averse to also murdering children and other family members because of their anger over 'a relationship gone sour'. Domestic violence incidents are also the most deadly type of call-out for the police.That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
CDC: Half Of All Female Homicide Victims Are Killed By Intimate Partners
More than half of female homicide victims were killed in connection to intimate partner violence — and in 10 percent of those cases, violence shortly before the killing might have provided an opportunity for intervention.
That is according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, published Thursday, that takes a close look at the homicides of women.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers
Expanded Homicide Data
![]()
How many women would need to be murdered or assaulted by spouses/former spouses for you to consider it an epidemic?!
Domestic violence's real cost: Nearly three women die every day
I've had hundreds of hours in domestic violence training with advocates and law enforcement and attorneys and judges; it is a commonly accepted statistic among all these groups that approximately 70% of domestic violence goes unreported, so the statistics we know for certain are the tip of the iceberg.
Statistics
ep·i·dem·ic
ˌepəˈdemik/
noun
adjective
- 1.
a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.
"a flu epidemic"
synonyms: outbreak, plague, pandemic, epizootic
"an epidemic of typhoid"
- 1.
relating to or of the nature of an epidemic.
"shoplifting has reached epidemic proportions"
synonyms: rife, rampant, widespread, wide-ranging, extensive, pervasive
I certainly won't disagree that women are the victim of domestic violence. I will add for the purposes of fairness to those on the other side, that domestic violence against men occurs often and is very under reported. It might have improved over the years as the stigma isn't what it used to be, but it exists in many more cases than one would expect.
Violence against anyone outside of self defense is not right.
Iceberg, why in the name of God are you on a political message board if you consistently refuse to argue one side or the other? Your relativism is wearying. I wouldn't have brought up the Muslim thing, but I certainly don't see anything wrong with making the point. What do YOU think was the OP's motive in starting this thread, putting up this news article? She didn't say, so maybe just to chat about it? So we're chatting.maybe. maybe a muslim doing it would have set them off.People here are joking about it. Don't mess with the bean dip...we take football seriously....How interesting and typical of you. You don't know if they were Muslim or not. You don't know if they are anything. Yet you use death to smear people. So damn typical so disgusting.![]()
A police officer investigates after a shooting at a home in Plano, north of Dallas, Tex., Sunday night.
(Vernon Bryant/The Dallas Morning News via AP)
September 11, 2017
A Texas police officer shot a suspected gunman dead and found seven more slain inside a suburban Dallas home during a football party Sunday night.
A flurry of gunfire led authorities to the gruesome discovery inside a Plano home around 8 p.m., police said.
The first cop to the crime scene confronted the shooter inside and shot him dead, Plano police spokesman Officer David Tilley told reporters.
Two more people were wounded in the deadly attack and rushed to a hospital near the Dallas suburb. Their conditions were not immediately known.
![]()
Police gather outside the Plano home where eight people, including the shooter, were killed.
(WFAA 8 News)
Police said all the victims were adults.
Witness Crystal Sugg said she heard a man and woman arguing moments before the gunfire.
“As she was going to the house, he started letting go. Just started releasing,”
![]()
Two more people were wounded in the deadly incident, authorities said.
(LM Otero/AP)
The shooting took place as the victims watched the Dallas Cowboys battle the New York Giants at AT&T Stadium,
The paper states an unidentified man expressed agony after speaking with a neighbor and learning he was likely friends with most of the victims shot at the home.
The victims and suspect were not immediately identified.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/people-found-shot-death-texas-home-shooter-killed-article-1.3485744
Oh, the fun of guns.
Had he been Muslim people would be going insane right now, but as he's most likely a Christian Texan, it's okay.
Yet you take umbrage when someone accurately points out that a Muslim doing this would have sent you all into high orbit and don't deny it.
No one has to take this religious or political heights. It is already there on ALL sides.
but it's not as if any ONE side has cornered the market on stupid. same thing, to me anyway, if trump does something people go into a tizzy for no other reason than he did it.
that is just as stupid.
kinda a human trait we beat up others for then excuse for ourselves cause we feel it right when we do it.
probably not invitedAgreed.....or if he was invited to the party.it would be interesting to see if the shooter had a restraining orderIt appears to have been at the house of the divorcing couple.Must have been a gun free zoneThat's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
You're right. I don't believe it.You might not believe this, but most people don't carry a gun when they go to someone's house to watch football- even in Texas.That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
I disagreed with her appeal to emotion argument by declaring domestic abuse an "epidemic", but she is correct about "three women are killed every day": Domestic violence's real cost: Nearly three women die every dayWhere is your proof of that falsehood?You say that as though you're unaware of the fact that relationship violence is epidemic in this country. Three women are killed every day by a current or former partner - and leaving is the most deadly time of all. Abusers aren't at all averse to also murdering children and other family members because of their anger over 'a relationship gone sour'. Domestic violence incidents are also the most deadly type of call-out for the police.That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
Making up more lies they know nothing about must be a libtard pastime.Remember...up to the moment he started shooting people, the shooter was just another good person owning a gun.
Agreed.probably not invitedAgreed.....or if he was invited to the party.it would be interesting to see if the shooter had a restraining orderIt appears to have been at the house of the divorcing couple.Must have been a gun free zoneThat's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.
A Dallas suburb is horrified after game night turns bloody, leaving 9 dead from one house
Correct and right up until he drove into a crowd, James Fields was a lawful driver. Are you suggesting we ban all cars "just in case"?Remember...up to the moment he started shooting people, the shooter was just another good person owning a gun.