Sexist pig Kasich advises personal responsibility

[thereisnospoon]

You know, drunk women don't rape themselves.

It appears the obvious escapes you.

The only way college women can be made to feel more safe is to avoid dangerous situations. His advice was sound. As president, he can't make her feel more safe. Only she by her own decisions, and the local police, and local citizens standing up against violence, can do that.

Nobody is blaming the victim. However, women must be advised to look out for themselves and avoid bad news situations.

You're mistaken. One way that college women can be made to feel more safe is to change the culture of young men in those settings SO THEY DON'T RAPE THEM.

Goddamn.

No...Because the whole college rape culture thing is nothing more than a left wing agenda.
It crap. The Rolling Stone magazine even had to fabricate a story in order to report on the phenomenon.
This is not to say that sexual assaults do not take place at these institutions. They happen. But not nearly in the numbers or the frequency at which feminist groups claim.
That cum dumpster slut pig stripper in the Duke Lacrosse case, was full of shit. She saw a bunch of white guys she thought came from well to do families. And she took an opportunity to enrich herself..
Just keep this in the back of your self entitled arrogant cranium. Men are a minority on most college campuses. Meaning, women had better get used to the idea of being perceived as an oppressing majority.

 

[edthecynic]

The problem is young women who do things that they are later ashamed of and use accusations of rape to put the blame on someone other them themselves.

The rapist is always the innocent victim of a false accusation, except if it is Clinton!

 

[edthecynic]

Consciously put yourself into a position of risk, and you take your chances.

But WHY should drinking socially put women at risk?!
Why do men bear no responsibility for the "risk?"

 

[bripat9643]

Consciously put yourself into a position of risk, and you take your chances.

But WHY should drinking socially put women at risk?!
Why do men bear no responsibility for the "risk?"

What does it even mean to "bear responsibility for the risk?"

 

[Davros]

But isn't blaming "male culture" another way of excusing rapists for their crimes like blaming the victim? It is not my fault people are raped.

No. It in no way takes away from the personal culpability of individual rapists.

There was never any time in your life that you knew that another guy might do something to a woman, and did nothing?

Correct. But what could I do if I "knew a guy might do something"? That's real vague.

 

[Davros]

Consciously put yourself into a position of risk, and you take your chances.

But WHY should drinking socially put women at risk?!
Why do men bear no responsibility for the "risk?"

Men risk getting beaten up, killed, robbed, or even raped by a queer at late night parties with lots of alcohol.

 

[bripat9643]

Good luck with that ....

Thanks. I actually work on that issue very hard now because 3 of the 360 young men we've worked with over the past 3 years have raped young women. And it occurred to me that some of them didn't realize that what they were doing was a crime, so education might be helpful to them. I think that every young man we educate is potentially one less rapist, and that those young men can also disseminate the information we provide to their peers.

I appreciate your sincere expression of support.

And in the meantime, college women should protect themselves by avoiding dangerous situations.

Pretty straightforward.

Why should we put the onus of self-protection entirely on women for a crime that is committed primarily by men?

Riddle me that, batman?

It basically absolves men of the responsibility to persuade or stop other men from raping.

Is that your intention?

Why should we put the onus of accepting reality on those who will become its victims if they ignore it? Isn't that question self-answering?

 

[Davros]

Consciously put yourself into a position of risk, and you take your chances.

But WHY should drinking socially put women at risk?!
Why do men bear no responsibility for the "risk?"

What does it even mean to "bear responsibility for the risk?"

It seems they do want to somehow punish all men for the acts of rapists. Seems because I am male I am responsible for being law enforcement at parties, and if I "know a man might do something" I am responsible for somehow stopping him from doing this unknown act or else I am to blame.

I guess I wasn't hanging out with the "in crowd" but I never witnessed a single act of sex on campus let alone rape or sexual assault. People I was with were too busy doing boring stuff like studying and sports. Yeah I saw drinking and kissing but not sex. Oh well.

 

[edthecynic]

Consciously put yourself into a position of risk, and you take your chances.

But WHY should drinking socially put women at risk?!
Why do men bear no responsibility for the "risk?"

What does it even mean to "bear responsibility for the risk?"

Playing dumb, I see!

 

[Snouter]

These blue lights are at Yale and other locations in CT that are adjacent to afro-american areas in which afro-americans freely indulge in their criminal/welfare/democrat lifestyles.

Approximately 500 exterior phones are strategically located throughout the campus and are readily identified at night by blue lights located above or near them. The phones are equipped with red emergency buttons for direct connection to the University Police for police, fire, or medical emergencies and a keypad for dialing any campus number....Students, Staff or Faculty may request a Security Escort by calling 432-WALK (203.432.9255). A security officer will walk you to and from any point on campus, within a reasonable walking distance on campus between Yale buildings.

Blue Phones | Public Safety

 

[Two Thumbs]

It’s called blaming the victim, a hateful and ignorant response common to most on the right.

The ‘remedy’ for sexual assault is not for women to hide themselves away like cloistered nuns (a moronic idea that likely appeals to many conservatives).

you're a liar, a bad one, and a fucking idiot.

a complete and utter fool that thinks up ignorant things and convinces himself that that cons must be doing it b/c his brain cell told itself so.

 

[Kondor3]

Consciously put yourself into a position of risk, and you take your chances.

But WHY should drinking socially put women at risk?! Why do men bear no responsibility for the "risk?"

A man is responsible if he commits an act of rape.

A woman is responsible if she puts herself willingly and voluntarily into a situation where the odds increase that rape will occur.

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"Mister Myagi... what's the best defense against a sucker-punch?"

"Ahhhhh... Daniel-san... best defense... no be there!"

"Mister Myagi... what's the best way for my girlfriend to avoid getting raped at a drinking party?"

"Ahhhh... Daniel-san... best defense... no be there!"

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Not every complicated, is it?

The point of the exercise is not to assign responsibility for risk and safety.

The point of the exercise is to avoid being raped.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Consciously put yourself into a position of risk, and you take your chances.

But WHY should drinking socially put women at risk?!
Why do men bear no responsibility for the "risk?"

Why are you putting the responsibility on one and not the other?

Alcohol affects people of both genders, especially when you are young. The more alcohol, the less responsible you will be.

Such bad decisions bring into question of what is rape? Was a woman (who was drinking at a party) brutally attacked and forced to have sex while screaming for help? That's usually not the case.

At times there are accusations of women getting the date rape drug, or passing out from too much alcohol and a male partner took advantage of the situation, or she was too drunk when she made her decision to have sex and half-way in the middle of the event, she called it off but the male didn't stop. Or she agreed to have sex but because she was so drunk, remembers the situation entirely different than what really happened.

Rape is a very fragile charge because if woman produces evidence of having sex, and claims rape, the male could be in hot water even if it was consensual. It's her word against his.

Should a woman be forbidden from going to a party and drinking without worry of getting raped? No, in an ideal world. But a woman should also not be forbidden from dressing in shorts and a tank top and walk through Central Park at 3:00 in the morning as well.

 

[Mac1958]

The Regressive Lefties here would be just fine seeing their daughter going to a party with bunch of drunk, horny guys.

Hey, take them some extra booze while you're at it, and be sure to wear the least amount of clothing possible, if any.

In fact, it would be fine if she were the only woman at the party, too.

What could possibly go wrong?
.

 

[pillars]

But isn't blaming "male culture" another way of excusing rapists for their crimes like blaming the victim? It is not my fault people are raped.

No. It in no way takes away from the personal culpability of individual rapists.

There was never any time in your life that you knew that another guy might do something to a woman, and did nothing?

Correct. But what could I do if I "knew a guy might do something"? That's real vague.

You could say something. "Hey leave her alone." "Bro can't you tell she has had too much to drink." " "hey do you have a female friend I can call?"

 

[Moonglow]

John Kasich: 'Don't go to parties where there's a lot of alcohol' - CNNPolitics.com

What an asshole! How dare you give advice to a young woman not to place herself under greater risk of sexual assault. How dare you advise her to avoid parties with lots of alcohol. What the hell do you know. You're only the father of teenaged girls, not some know it all lesbo feminist from the DNC. Learn to have compassion for young women!

Kasich isn't a sexist pig, he just likes alcohol fueled sausage fest orgies..

 

[pillars]

The Regressive Lefties here would be just fine seeing their daughter going to a party with bunch of drunk, horny guys.

Hey, take them some extra booze while you're at it, and be sure to wear the least amount of clothing possible, if any.

In fact, it would be fine if she were the only woman at the party, too.

What could possibly go wrong?
.

So college girls should stay home in their dorm room and never go to parties where liquor is served.

And you call liberals regressive. Maybe they should wear burqas, too.

Except even girls who go to the library or stay in their dorm rooms get raped.

Derp.

 

[Mac1958]

The Regressive Lefties here would be just fine seeing their daughter going to a party with bunch of drunk, horny guys.

Hey, take them some extra booze while you're at it, and be sure to wear the least amount of clothing possible, if any.

In fact, it would be fine if she were the only woman at the party, too.

What could possibly go wrong?
.

So college girls should stay home in their dorm room and never go to parties where liquor is served.

And you call liberals regressive. Maybe they should wear burqas, too.

Except even girls who go to the library or stay in their dorm rooms get raped.

Derp.

Excellent. Right to the intellectually dishonest straw man arguments you go. Always a good sign.

You appear to have an issue with my post that caused you to try that.

Tell me, with which of the four sentences in my post do you disagree?

Precisely?
.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

RWNJs believe that all men are rapists.

As for Kasich - he's running as the sane one but he's just as rabidly radical as KrazyKruz and Trumpery.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

No one takes issue with the principle of ‘personal responsibility; the issue is the wrongheaded notion that women subject to sexual assault are somehow ‘responsible.’