Shattering Another Liberal Myth

[PoliticalChic]

a. There are a mere 11 million illegal aliens living in our country

Estimates vary - but that's about right:
5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

b. Obama didn't tell them to vote, and, anyway….they didn't

Correct and endlessly debunked:
FALSE: Obama Encouraged 'Illegal Aliens' to Vote

c. They pay taxes and are a benefit to our economy

Yes, they support local businesses and pay taxes on consumables

Deport them all? Here is the cost:
How Much Would It Cost to Deport 11 Million People?

d. They commit far fewer crimes than our own citizens

Affirmative:
Contrary to Trump’s Claims, Immigrants Are Less Likely to Commit Crimes

Anything else?

c. They pay taxes and are a benefit to our economy

Yes, they support local businesses and pay taxes on consumables


Wrong again.

The claim is that the economy needs these illegals.
"...undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation."
Study Finds Illegal Immigrants Pay $11.8B in Taxes


But the facts aren't their friend...

11) “The conservative Heritage Foundation estimated unlawful immigrant households paid $39.2 billion in 2010, but received $93.7 billion in government services.” -- Oliver Darcy

[So much for that fable.]
15 Stats That Destroy Liberal Narratives


And, the money taken from working Americans is sent to Mexico by these Mexican citizens....more money than the

"Remittances totaled more than oil income

Money sent from abroad came to $24.8 billion last year, up 4.75%

Mexico News Daily | Tuesday, February 2, 2016

Remittances sent home by Mexicans working outside the country surpassed [Mexican] petroleum revenues in 2015 for the first time.

There was a 4.75% increase in money sent from abroad, most of which comes from the U.S., to total US $24.8 billion last year, up from $23.6 billion in 2014, said the Bank of México.


The bank said it was the first time remittances had totaled more than petroleum revenues since it began tracking them in 1995.


Oil revenues last year totaled $23.4 billion."

Remittances totaled more than Mexico's oil income



On the bright side, you have all of the makings of a reliable Democrat voter: you accept the DNC marching order without thinking.
A gold star for you!

 

[dudmuck]

This thread is looking like a modern version of
Der Stürmer..

 

[PoliticalChic]

a. There are a mere 11 million illegal aliens living in our country

Estimates vary - but that's about right:
5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

b. Obama didn't tell them to vote, and, anyway….they didn't

Correct and endlessly debunked:
FALSE: Obama Encouraged 'Illegal Aliens' to Vote

c. They pay taxes and are a benefit to our economy

Yes, they support local businesses and pay taxes on consumables

Deport them all? Here is the cost:
How Much Would It Cost to Deport 11 Million People?

d. They commit far fewer crimes than our own citizens

Affirmative:
Contrary to Trump’s Claims, Immigrants Are Less Likely to Commit Crimes

Anything else?

d. They commit far fewer crimes than our own citizens

Affirmative:
Contrary to Trump’s Claims, Immigrants Are Less Likely to Commit Crimes


Clean off your specs, old timer....this was posted earlier:

Latest statistics from the US Sentencing Commission [ Topic]


Non-Citizens Federal Crimes:

22% of Murders

18% of Fraud

33% of Money Laundering

29% of Drug Trafficking

72% of Drug Possession





Get it????
Non-Citizens are FAR more likely to commit crimes that Americans are.

Which party hid this from you????

Which party hates Americans?



Judging by your posts, on wonders how many times you've fallen for Lucy's football ploy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sorry - not gonna play your stupid games. Stopped reading here:

There are between 50 million and 80 million illegal aliens living in this country.

80 million? So IOW almost one in three Americans is an illegal alien.

See ya - and for the love of God, get some new sources

"Stopped reading here"

It's certainly wasn't necessary for you to either explain nor prove your ignorance.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This thread is looking like a modern version of
Der Stürmer..

This is usually the best fools can do when they are unable to find any errors in the posts.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Really?

“Piecing together state and federal reports, it appears that half the correctional population in California consists of illegal aliens. According to a state report, there were fewer than two hundred thousand inmates in the entire California prison population, including mental hospitals, in 2009. That year, 102,795 illegal aliens were incarcerated in California, costing the state more than $1 billion a year.”
― Ann Coulter, ¡Adios, America!: The Left's Plan to Turn Our Country into a Third World Hellhole

REALLY? You're going to use fuking Ann Coulter as a factual source?

Morons regularly object to the source....in this case a well documented scholar....when they can't dispute the facts.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

other liberal myths
1) liberals are open minded
2) liberals want to share
3) liberals are for civil rights and voting rights

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's stay focused.
The thread proves.....PROVES.....yet one more lie from the lying low-life Leftists is false.
Non-citizens, undocumented aliens, illegal aliens are NOT more law abiding than American citizens.

Far from it.




7. Let's do the math.


If the (bogus) figure cited ...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....which neither changes nor is questioned, is accepted….

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance."


….that is about 0.03 % of the population…..committing crime WAY out of proportion:

Per the US Sentencing Commission [ Topic]


Non-Citizens Federal Crimes:

22% of Murders

18% of Fraud

33% of Money Laundering

29% of Drug Trafficking

72% of Drug Possession



And these are only federal statistics.


Wanna see the figures from California, or New York????



Wake up, Liberals: there is one reason and one reason alone, to explain why the Democrats put Americans at risk and at debt for illegals.....

.....they vote Democrat.

 

[DrLove]

Morons regularly object to the source....in this case a well documented scholar....when they can't dispute the facts.

Next you'll be citing a study by Sebastian Gorka, Stephen Miller and Richard B Spencer.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own alternative facts.

 

[DrLove]

LoL Chick - I googled your claim which leads to NOTHING but RW propaganda

Non-Citizens Federal Crimes: 22% of Murders 18% of Fraud 33% of Money Laundering 29% of Drug Trafficking 72% of Drug Possession

 

[PoliticalChic]

Morons regularly object to the source....in this case a well documented scholar....when they can't dispute the facts.

Next you'll be citing a study by Sebastian Gorka, Stephen Miller and Richard B Spencer.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own alternative facts.

Now....why would you be trying to change the subject?

Must be because I demolished every objection you attempted to raise.

I've proven that every one of these is a bald-faced lie.

1. When the topic of illegal immigration is brought up, there are several boilerplate positions parroted by the Left's drones:

a. There are a mere 11 million illegal aliens living in our country

b. Obama didn't tell them to vote, and, anyway….they didn't

c. They pay taxes and are a benefit to our economy

d. They commit far fewer crimes than our own citizens


Every single one of the above is a bald-faced lie.



You must be terribly embarrassed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

LoL Chick - I googled your claim which leads to NOTHING but RW propaganda

Non-Citizens Federal Crimes: 22% of Murders 18% of Fraud 33% of Money Laundering 29% of Drug Trafficking 72% of Drug Possession

There's no link there.....so....caught you lying, huh?


BTW.....those are just the FEDERAL convictions and imprisonments.


Try getting the stats from states,or cities...

Like this:


Check out the Los Angeles Police Department's recent list of "Most Wanted:"

Monarrez, Jesse Enrique

Nistal, Cesar Augusto

Padilla, Jose A.

Reyes, Ramon

Vargas, Victor

Villa, Ruben

Alvarado-Monasterio, Julio Cesar

Araiza, Gustavo

Araujo, Fernando

Avila, Guillermo Lua
All Most Wanted - Los Angeles Police Department


Getting the drift???


Soooo......how long have you been a victim of Liberal lies?????

 

[Thinker101]

I'd love be able to claim that this is one of those tales that Liberals live and die by....but....there are so many fables in the Leftist constellations....well....they'll simply pivot to another of 'em

But....this thread will provide a significant revelation.



1. When the topic of illegal immigration is brought up, there are several boilerplate positions parroted by the Left's drones:

a. There are a mere 11 million illegal aliens living in our country

b. Obama didn't tell them to vote, and, anyway….they didn't

c. They pay taxes and are a benefit to our economy

d. They commit far fewer crimes than our own citizens


Every one of the above is a bald-faced lie.



Democrats/Liberals encourage illegal immigration, resist strengthening our borders, and pay out huge amounts from the public fisc to support illegals…..and all for one reason alone: illegals do what so very many Americans won't do:

They Vote Democrat.




2. The single most dangerous of the lies Liberals tell is this one:

d. They commit far fewer crimes than our own citizens

Until now, it was hard to pin the tail on that donkey, because the government has assiduously hidden the data.

Not anymore!



3. The government collects any and all data related to the needs of authorized 'victims' of general nastiness by white America, but somehow it neglects to collect data about criminality of illegal aliens...who, by definition....are criminals!
Seems all Democrats rely on illegal aliens do to is what they were allowed to come here to do: vote Democrat.
And they do.
If you'd like to see how scrupulous the data-miners have been, to actually hide the crime statistics on illegal aliens, pick any infinitesimal bit of information you'd like to know about inhabitants of America ....oh, say....like how many occupants of American Samoa have battery powered radios in their homes.....
Wanna know? It's actually here: American FactFinder - Using FactFinder
(2,651 in 2010)


4. Now try to find data on how many legal and illegal aliens are arrested and convicted for crimes...and what those crimes are.

And, based on this obfuscation and/or outright refusal to collect this data, Liberals can simply sneer at the logic and experience of the other side's attempts to estimate the numbers of illegal aliens, how many vote, the financial burden they place on the public services they require, the costs to the judicial system, increases in police forces, prison guards.....and rape counselors.




Until now.

I'll reveal the actual data.

2010 compiled after the GOP/Bush years...and you want to hang this on just democrats.. Why not lie to yourself about it? The GOP administrations had illegal influxes also and didn't stop it...Thread fail..

all that matters to me are the ones that will replace my roof for $450.00

Really?

“Piecing together state and federal reports, it appears that half the correctional population in California consists of illegal aliens. According to a state report, there were fewer than two hundred thousand inmates in the entire California prison population, including mental hospitals, in 2009. That year, 102,795 illegal aliens were incarcerated in California, costing the state more than $1 billion a year.”
― Ann Coulter, ¡Adios, America!: The Left's Plan to Turn Our Country into a Third World Hellhole

2009 clearly during the Bush presidency...

2009 clearly during the Bush presidency.....WTF?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Morons regularly object to the source....in this case a well documented scholar....when they can't dispute the facts.

Next you'll be citing a study by Sebastian Gorka, Stephen Miller and Richard B Spencer.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own alternative facts.

Mine are 'facts.'

That's the reason you have been unable to dispute them, other than the usual Liberal 'is not, issssssss nooooottttttt!!!!'

True, you dunce?

 

[DrLove]

2009 clearly during the Bush presidency.....WTF?

She's yammering incoherently - pay no attention

 

[PoliticalChic]

2009 clearly during the Bush presidency.....WTF?

She's yammering incoherently - pay no attention

If you didn't know, deep down, that everything I've posted is true, linked and documented....unlike the lie you attempted in post #30...
"LoL Chick - I googled your claim which leads to NOTHING but RW propaganda

Non-Citizens Federal Crimes: 22% of Murders 18% of Fraud 33% of Money Laundering 29% of Drug Trafficking 72% of Drug Possession"

....a total lie, as a click of that proves that every post therein agreed with me.....


....well...you wouldn't keep coming back, hoping to prove that you haven't been lied to your whole life.



I've proven that every one of these is a bald-faced lie.

1. When the topic of illegal immigration is brought up, there are several boilerplate positions parroted by the Left's drones:

a. There are a mere 11 million illegal aliens living in our country

b. Obama didn't tell them to vote, and, anyway….they didn't

c. They pay taxes and are a benefit to our economy

d. They commit far fewer crimes than our own citizens


...and, that you've lived your life as a total fool.

 

[ColonelAngus]

a. There are a mere 11 million illegal aliens living in our country

Estimates vary - but that's about right:
5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

b. Obama didn't tell them to vote, and, anyway….they didn't

Correct and endlessly debunked:
FALSE: Obama Encouraged 'Illegal Aliens' to Vote

c. They pay taxes and are a benefit to our economy

Yes, they support local businesses and pay taxes on consumables

Deport them all? Here is the cost:
How Much Would It Cost to Deport 11 Million People?

d. They commit far fewer crimes than our own citizens

Affirmative:
Contrary to Trump’s Claims, Immigrants Are Less Likely to Commit Crimes

Anything else?

Pure bullshit.

Absolute bullshit.

Read this New York Times article, then STFU

About one in five inmates in federal prison are foreign-born, and more than 90 percent of those are in the United States illegally, according to a report released on Thursday by the Trump administration, which has sought to highlight the dangers it says unauthorized immigrants pose to public safety.

Officials at the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security quickly framed the statistics as evidence that the country needed stricter anti-immigration measures, particularly the wall President Trump has pushed to erect across the southern border.

Thousands of Federal Inmates Are in the U.S. Illegally, Administration Says

 

[PoliticalChic]

2009 clearly during the Bush presidency.....WTF?

She's yammering incoherently - pay no attention

Wow....post #37's gotta hurt, huh?

And from your Liberal house organ, the NYTimes!


Sooooo....
Does that neon light flashing IDIOT over your head keep you awake at night?

 

[ColonelAngus]

2009 clearly during the Bush presidency.....WTF?

She's yammering incoherently - pay no attention

Wow....post #37's gotta hurt, huh?

And from your Liberal house organ, the NYTimes!


Sooooo....
Does that neon light flashing IDIOT over your head keep you awake at night?

According to the New York Times, 18% of all federal prison inmates are illegal immigrants.

Do they make up 18% of the general Population of the Nation?

No wonder Obama blocked these statistics from being released. It proves the liberals are straight up fucking liars when they say illegal immigrants are more law abiding than native born Americans.

Fucking shameless lying Dems....all for votes. They are disgusting and selling out the nation for their own personal gain of power and money.

 

[DrLove]

According to the New York Times, 18% of all federal prison inmates are illegal immigrants.

Do they make up 18% of the general Population of the Nation?

Yes they do - next question?

The Hispanic population has reached a new high, but growth has slowed. In 2016, Hispanics accounted for 18% of the nation’s population and were the second-largest racial or ethnic group behind whites. (All racial groups are single race non-Hispanic.)

How the U.S. Hispanic population is changing