Should Israel bomb Iran???

[Toddsterpatriot]

Israel Has Been Claiming Since 1979 That Iran Is Building A Nuclear Bomb - Christians for Truth

(Christian Science Monitor) The Israeli propaganda campaign of fear of an Iranian nuclear weapon predates Iran’s 1979 Islamic revolution, when the pro-West Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was deep in negotiations on a nuclear-energy spending spree:: Late 1970s: US receives intelligence [from Israel...

christiansfortruth.com

Bomb Iran Half Way Back to the Stone Age

Is it just a coincidence that TV networks are re-running old “Dirty Harry” films just as a powerful US Naval armada and Air Force B-52 bombers are...

www.ronpaulinstitute.org

2008

Israeli threat to attack Iran over nuclear weapons

Former Israeli defence minister warns military action would be 'unavoidable' if Tehran continues to develop nuclear weapons

www.theguardian.com

If----then.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Do people not understand that when they're talking about Iran that these are the freakin Persians? HelloOooo....

They're not going anywhere. They've been around for a very, very long time.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The biggest shortcoming that bureaucrats have is that they have absolutely no understanding of history. They have no understanding of relationships that other nations have had with other nations for centuries. And that's just for starters.

 

[healthmyths]

Israel Has Been Claiming Since 1979 That Iran Is Building A Nuclear Bomb - Christians for Truth

(Christian Science Monitor) The Israeli propaganda campaign of fear of an Iranian nuclear weapon predates Iran’s 1979 Islamic revolution, when the pro-West Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was deep in negotiations on a nuclear-energy spending spree:: Late 1970s: US receives intelligence [from Israel...

christiansfortruth.com

Bomb Iran Half Way Back to the Stone Age

Is it just a coincidence that TV networks are re-running old “Dirty Harry” films just as a powerful US Naval armada and Air Force B-52 bombers are...

www.ronpaulinstitute.org

2008

Israeli threat to attack Iran over nuclear weapons

Former Israeli defence minister warns military action would be 'unavoidable' if Tehran continues to develop nuclear weapons

www.theguardian.com

Well first of all thank you for providing support to your comment. Much appreciated that you at least attempt to be an honest observer.
Now as far as Israel aggressive attacks on Iran.

Israeli threat to attack Iran over nuclear weapons​

Israeli threat to attack Iran over nuclear weapons

Former Israeli defence minister warns military action would be 'unavoidable' if Tehran continues to develop nuclear weapons

www.theguardian.com

Hmmm... so why would a "peaceful, non-aggressive country from day one of the Obama Iran treaty did they break the treaty and
continue nuclear bomb efforts? OH wait yea that's it!
They want nuclear powered electric generators and like you are a green peace person against all fossil fuels. That's it!
Sorry but I'm old enough to know what they did in Iran in 1979 and the tremendous angst there was regarding the USA hostages...again by those peaceful Iranians.
Tell me how many of these actions taken by Iranians have been done by the Israelis in their own country?
The authorities heavily suppressed the rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly. Security forces used unlawful force to crush protests. The authorities continued to arbitrarily detain hundreds of protesters, dissidents and human rights defenders, and sentenced many to imprisonment and flogging. Women, as well as ethnic and religious minorities, faced entrenched discrimination as well as violence.

Human rights in Iran

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Iran with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.

www.amnesty.org

 

[surada]

Well first of all thank you for providing support to your comment. Much appreciated that you at least attempt to be an honest observer.
Now as far as Israel aggressive attacks on Iran.

Israeli threat to attack Iran over nuclear weapons​

Israeli threat to attack Iran over nuclear weapons

Former Israeli defence minister warns military action would be 'unavoidable' if Tehran continues to develop nuclear weapons

www.theguardian.com

Hmmm... so why would a "peaceful, non-aggressive country from day one of the Obama Iran treaty did they break the treaty and
continue nuclear bomb efforts? OH wait yea that's it!
They want nuclear powered electric generators and like you are a green peace person against all fossil fuels. That's it!
Sorry but I'm old enough to know what they did in Iran in 1979 and the tremendous angst there was regarding the USA hostages...again by those peaceful Iranians.
Tell me how many of these actions taken by Iranians have been done by the Israelis in their own country?
The authorities heavily suppressed the rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly. Security forces used unlawful force to crush protests. The authorities continued to arbitrarily detain hundreds of protesters, dissidents and human rights defenders, and sentenced many to imprisonment and flogging. Women, as well as ethnic and religious minorities, faced entrenched discrimination as well as violence.

Human rights in Iran

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Iran with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.

www.amnesty.org

Me too. I remember atoms for Peace under Eisenhower. Iran needs nuclear power plants to expand their electrical grid.

Netanyahu in 1992: Iran close to having nuclear bomb

Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is trapped in reflection theory. He was allegedly himself involved in illegally smuggling nuclear triggers out of the US, and he assumes that Iran desperately wants a nuclear weapon as well. But Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has given a fatwa against nukes, and...

www.juancole.com

 

[August West]

Iran nuke program is to vast and complex
Much is deeply under ground

The sooner they show us what they have the sooner Israel and the U.S. will stop threatening them.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Should Israel bomb Iran???
SUBTOPIC: The Question on War
※→ Toddsterpatriot, et al,

I apologize for being so late on this response.
I'm not an attorney; just a layman.

BLUF: SShort Answer is NO.

Didn't they outlaw war? How'd that work out?

(COMMENT)

You really can't claim that "War" is outlawed. In the first place, you should use the terminology:

"Armed Conflict" Defined in International Humanitarian Law:

◈ International Armed Conflict (IAC)​

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◈ Non-International Armed Conflict (NIAC)​

Really, there is a difference between criminal law (below), and international humanitarian law (above).

◈ Article 8 bis3 Crime of aggression. (not War)​

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For the purpose of this Statute, “crime of aggression” means the planning, preparation, initiation or execution, by a person in a position effectively to exercise control over or to direct the political or military action of a State, of an act of aggression which, by its character, gravity and scale, constitutes a manifest violation of the Charter of the United Nations.​

There are really two key issues [UN Carter Article 2(4)]:

◈ refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force​

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✦ threat of force​

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✦ use of force​

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◈ against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state​

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✦ territorial integrity​

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✦ political independence​

Don't embargoes violate the 1906 Geneva Convention?

(COMMENT)

Short Answer: NO

Embargos and Economic Sanctions are two different things.

The enforcement by the least violent method - like sanctions - enforces law.
Hague Convention VI [of 1907 relative to the Status of Enemy Merchant Ships at the Outbreak of Hostilities ( 205 C.T.S. 305 )].

Most Respectfully,
R


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[surada]

The sooner they show us what they have the sooner Israel and the U.S. will stop threatening them.

Maybe Israel should show us what they have.

In the summer of 1995, I heard Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin speak to a group of peace activists. If the audience expected warm idealism, they didn't get it. In his smoke-scarred voice, Rabin gave a rationale for peacemaking that was all strategic realism. The only "new Middle East" he described was one in which the dangers had shifted. Israel had to resolve the conflicts close at hand, I recall him saying, so that it could focus on greater threats further off – such as Iran.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Me too. I remember atoms for Peace under Eisenhower. Iran needs nuclear power plants to expand their electrical grid.

Stupid idea.
They can burn nat gas.

 

[surada]

Stupid idea.
They can burn nat gas.

Nope.. Iran needs nuclear powered desalination plants that produce cheap electricity as a by-product. They are concerned about fossil fuel pollution too.

Benjamin Netanyahu's Long History of Crying Wolf About Iran's Nuclear Weapons

The Israeli Prime Minister is expected to warn the U.S. Congress an Iranian bomb is imminent — just as he warned in 1992, 1995, 2002, 2009, and 2012.

theintercept.com

The Israeli Prime Minister is expected to warn the U.S. Congress an Iranian bomb is imminent — just as he warned in 1992, 1995, 2002, 2009, and 2012.

 

[Likkmee]

C'mon man. It'll keep the "news" people busy

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nope.. Iran needs nuclear powered desalination plants that produce cheap electricity as a by-product. They are concerned about fossil fuel pollution too.

Benjamin Netanyahu's Long History of Crying Wolf About Iran's Nuclear Weapons

The Israeli Prime Minister is expected to warn the U.S. Congress an Iranian bomb is imminent — just as he warned in 1992, 1995, 2002, 2009, and 2012.

theintercept.com

The Israeli Prime Minister is expected to warn the U.S. Congress an Iranian bomb is imminent — just as he warned in 1992, 1995, 2002, 2009, and 2012.

They can use nat gas and solar for desalination.

 

[JoeBlow]

Israel 'Ready to Attack Iran' as Defense Minister Says 'We Need to Take Military Action'​

Israel 'Ready to Attack Iran' as Defense Minister Says 'We Need to Take Military Action'

So who's side will Biden be on?
Remember Biden wants to re-instate the deal that Trump tattered!

The Biden administration wants to finalize a deal with Iran to reenter the tattered 2015 nuclear deal within the next six weeks, all before the new Iranian new president-elect, Conservative judiciary chief Ebrahim Raisi is inaugurated, according to a new report from Axios.

Biden Rushing To Reenter Iran Nuke Deal By August

The Biden administration wants to finalize a deal with Iran to reenter the tattered 2015 nuclear deal within the next six weeks, all before the new Iranian new president-elect, Conservative judiciary chief Ebrahim Raisi is inaugurated, according to a new report from Axios.

floridianpress.com

All of this while Biden continues to encourage the southern border illegal Covid immigrants!

Bombing arabs is always ok with me. Any day. Any time. And twice on Sunday.

 

[surada]

They can use nat gas and solar for desalination.

Iran needs to expand their electrical grid since 1950.

 

[JoeBlow]

Iran needs to expand their electrical grid since 1950.

Isn't donkey power enough to cook some sheermal?

 

[surada]

Isn't donkey power enough to cook some sheermal?

All this kalaam is to prevent Iran from having nuclear power plants.

 

[Rigby5]

Not like the commies, eh?

So there is nothing wrong with controlling the economy when it is done collectively,

Castro collectively controlled the shit out of the Cuban economy.

Collectively means through popular election process.
From what I have heard of Castro, thee were no free elections, so there was nothing collective about it at all.

 

[JoeBlow]

All this kalaam is to prevent Iran from having nuclear power plants.

Just wait until they build it halfway then blow it up. Like last time.

 

[healthmyths]

Iran needs to expand their electrical grid since 1950.

FACT:
According to a new report, keeping Iran's condemned nuclear program going has already cost Tehran more than $100 billion in lost oil revenue and foreign investments alone.

How much is a nuclear program worth? For Iran, well over $100 billion.

According to a new report, keeping Iran's condemned nuclear program going has already cost Tehran more than $100 billion in lost oil revenue and foreign investments alone.

www.csmonitor.com

FACT: Iran's GDP per person...$12,389 (2019 est.)

Iran - The World Factbook

www.cia.gov

FACT: Israel GDP per person $41,953 (2020 est.)

Israel - The World Factbook

www.cia.gov

FACT:USA's GDP per person $62,530 (2019 est.)

United States - The World Factbook

www.cia.gov

So why does Iran spend billions of dollars on nuclear weapons?

 

[Rigby5]

You know you keep putting crap up like the above with NO substation. NO LINKS. Do you really believe people respect that?
NOW how about some reality!

Let's see the rhetoric from both sides OK?

Iran: 'Death to Israel' chants from motorcades on anniversary of Islamic revolution​

i24NEWS

www.i24news.tv

Israel chants: I couldn't find anything comparable to "Death to Iran", etc. when I did a search.
I kept find these 881,000 results that as you can I hopefully and honestly read..
Iran inciting Genocide against Israel,

..........all of this while Israel provides this to the Palestinians:

Reconstruction in Gaza
Israel is actively working to support reconstruction efforts in the Gaza Strip. Israel has undertaken these measures in the face of its valid concerns about the diversion of materials by

New Israeli-Palestinian regional business development center​

Israeli aid to the Palestinians - COGAT update February 2016​

29.02.2016
There were over 190,000 entrances from the West Bank into Israel for Palestinians receiving medical treatment in Israel and their companions in 2015. There was a 108% increase in the number ...

https://embassies.gov.il/MFA/FOREIGNPOLICY/Peace/HUMANITARIAN/Pages/Departments.aspx

So where is Iran?


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That is incorrect.
Chants like "death to Israel" means they want Israel be defeated and Palestine to be returned in its place.
Everyone should want that.
They do not mean that Jews should be killed or exterminated.
The Quran explicitly says Jews are NOT to be killed, and that Judaism is a valid religion.
In fact, Islam is almost identical to Judaism, is based on Judaism, and Moslems consider themselves a type of reformed Jew.

There has never been a massacre of Jews by Moslems.
But Zionists have massacred hundreds of Arab villages.