Should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

[Joy4Uall]

I'm not gay, myself - I just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody", so I love them too much to deny them the right to adopt. They are not hurting me, so I don't want to hurt them by denying them the right to be a loving parent. Hopefully that makes sense.

The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership.

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Not a fan of communism - a fan of freedom.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Every child should be handed over to such parents.
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They seem more loving than those that say that gays should NOT be allowed to adopt.

So then you've answered your own question. Now you can go back to gay central and report.

I'm not gay, myself - I just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody", so I love them too much to deny them the right to adopt. They are not hurting me, so I don't want to hurt them by denying them the right to be a loving parent. Hopefully that makes sense.

just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody",

You apparently disagree with "love everybody"? Is "hate everybody" better?

It is more widely practiced in american society.

 

[Sunni Man]

There is only 1 reason faggots want to adopt children.

And it not a good one. .....

 

[ding]

The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership.

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Not a fan of communism - a fan of freedom.

I don't know what to tell you then because history has shown your world view to lead to communism.

 

[Fenton Lum]

I'm not gay, myself - I just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody", so I love them too much to deny them the right to adopt. They are not hurting me, so I don't want to hurt them by denying them the right to be a loving parent. Hopefully that makes sense.

The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership.

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

We've seen capitalism, different path to the same ultimate destination.

 

[Joy4Uall]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

No. Children are best served by having a male and female role model. It is not ethical for people who prefer to have sex with the same gender to adopt kids. It is selfish for them to do so. That isn't ethical. That is selfishness.

This is the classic Christian response.

But you ding -go are forgetting the 1st Amendment -- separation of church and state.

Bad memory.

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

Fuck you and your religion.

Bless your heart.

I admire how you countered his hatred with love. Good on you.

 

[ding]

The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership.

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

We've seen capitalism, differnt path to the same ultimate destination.

I see you are a fan of socialism.

 

[Fenton Lum]

No. Children are best served by having a male and female role model. It is not ethical for people who prefer to have sex with the same gender to adopt kids. It is selfish for them to do so. That isn't ethical. That is selfishness.

This is the classic Christian response.

But you ding -go are forgetting the 1st Amendment -- separation of church and state.

Bad memory.

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

Fuck you and your religion.

Bless your heart.

I admire how you countered his hatred with love. Good on you.

Oh you should get to know him better.

 

[ding]

No. Children are best served by having a male and female role model. It is not ethical for people who prefer to have sex with the same gender to adopt kids. It is selfish for them to do so. That isn't ethical. That is selfishness.

This is the classic Christian response.

But you ding -go are forgetting the 1st Amendment -- separation of church and state.

Bad memory.

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

Fuck you and your religion.

Bless your heart.

I admire how you countered his hatred with love. Good on you.

Now if you would only see that what you are doing is hate then everything would be perfect.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

We've seen capitalism, differnt path to the same ultimate destination.

I see you are a fan of socialism.

You see what you assign, always on here.

 

[Fenton Lum]

This is the classic Christian response.

But you ding -go are forgetting the 1st Amendment -- separation of church and state.

Bad memory.

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

Fuck you and your religion.

Bless your heart.

I admire how you countered his hatred with love. Good on you.

Now if you would only see that what you are doing is hate then everything would be perfect.

What a hopelessly self-righteous prick as per usual.

 

[ding]

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

Fuck you and your religion.

Bless your heart.

I admire how you countered his hatred with love. Good on you.

Now if you would only see that what you are doing is hate then everything would be perfect.

What a hopelessly self-righteous prick as per usual.

Bless your heart.

 

[ding]

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

We've seen capitalism, differnt path to the same ultimate destination.

I see you are a fan of socialism.

You see what you assign, always on here.

Don't we all?

 

[Joy4Uall]

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Not a fan of communism - a fan of freedom.

I don't know what to tell you then because history has shown your world view to lead to communism.

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Not a fan of communism - a fan of freedom.

I don't know what to tell you then because history has shown your world view to lead to communism.

The Ten Commandments of Scientific Humanism
1. Believe in freedom:
a. Political (secular democracy)
b. Religious
c. Freedom of speech

Obviously a different belief system than communists....180 degrees different.

 

[miketx]

Children should be raised by a mother and a father.

Really? Because I had a father and a mother until I was orphaned at 8. Wanna know how my "fathers" treated me?

My biological father was pressured by his family after he divorced my mother to have her new husband adopt me. Why? He is from a very wealthy family and they didn't want me to have any claims to their fortune. He paid off her new husband 25,000 to make it happen.

Her next husband was a dude named Jack, and apparently he had a bit of PTSD, because everytime he got in a bad mood, I got thrown down cement stairs.

The last husband she had before she died was named Bob. He was the worst of all, because not only did he beat me senseless at least once a week, he also sexually abused my sister and on occasion did it in front of me.

The parents of the foster families that followed weren't much better. Why? Because most of the time, one parent was happy I was there, but one parent feltput upon because I was there. Not exactly happy childhood conditions, even though I had a male and a female that were parent figures.

The only place I ever felt wanted (besides my mother), was with my Grandparents, which is why I went to live with them my last year of high school.

No, having parents isn't always an ideal situation.

For the majority it is.

 

[miketx]

I don't think any should be in an environment with mentally disturbed people like fags.

 

[Joy4Uall]

This is the classic Christian response.

But you ding -go are forgetting the 1st Amendment -- separation of church and state.

Bad memory.

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

Fuck you and your religion.

Bless your heart.

I admire how you countered his hatred with love. Good on you.

Now if you would only see that what you are doing is hate then everything would be perfect.

You appear to believe that, say as an example, if I, in the 1950's showed people a better way regarding treatment of blacks that I would be "spewing hatred" against the whites that treated blacks poorly. I teach love, but I do show how my way is better than Jesus' way, I do contrast the belief systems, because people don't seem to understand that the way that I understand it. If I'm wrong, hopefully people will show me exactly where.

Speaking of love, which is more loving: sending (ethical) Jews to a lake of fire or sending them to gas chambers?
Please tell us which is more moving, ding, sending (ethical) Jews to a lake of fire, or sending them to gas chambers?

 

[Joy4Uall]

I don't think any should be in an environment with mentally disturbed people like fags.

2000 years, and Jesus' teachings are not loving enough to teach against this hatred. Nothing in the Bible says to love gays as equals. But my belief system does.

 

[miketx]

I don't think any should be in an environment with mentally disturbed people like fags.

2000 years, and Jesus' teachings are not loving enough to teach against this hatred. Nothing in the Bible says to love gays as equals. But my belief system does.

But that's not the topic of your post now is it?

 

[Joy4Uall]

There is only 1 reason faggots want to adopt children.

And it not a good one. .....

One could (wrongly) claim this about heetrosexual men, as well. It would be wrong though.

The hatred towards innocent people (gays) I'm seeing on this forum (resulting from the Bible) is one huge factor leading to this:
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Beliefs that teach hatred do have consequences! Such as suicides.