Should people have to perform/provide services for gay weddings?

[Antares]

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Were you born this stupid or do you work at it? The whole topic is business owners, like bakers who make wedding cakes, hall owners who rent reception halls, photographers that take wedding pictures, wedding planners, and the 101 other businesses that specialize in wedding related goods and services being forced by law to include offering these goods and services to sodomites and dykes who get legally married in jurisdictions that have gay "marriage" or get sued for discriminating against them. This has ALREADY happened dumbass, If you are telling bakers they have to bake a wedding cake for two sodomites that are getting married or they get sued, or if you tell a wedding planner that if they turn down two faggots or dykes just because they are faggots or dykes and you don't believe in gay marriage that they can be sued, or if you tell a person that rents out halls for wedding receptions that if they refuse to rent the hall to deviants who wish to celebrate their reception at your hall only because he believes gay marriage is immoral and against his religious beliefs he can be sued, you are forcing them to participate in a gay marriage/wedding. Damn you're an idiot.

If they don't approve of certain kinds of weddings, they shouldn't be in that kind of business.

Seems pretty simple to me.

I would look at it this way. You guys would make horrible businessmen the way you are always on about business.

their money is just as green as the straights, that's the way I look at it.

Coors and Chik-fil-A found that out, didn't they?

LMAO, Chik-Fil-A set records because of that stupid stunt.

 

[Desperado]

Seems that there are plenty of wedding planners, bakers and photographers so let me ask this question. Why would one want to do business with a company that didn't want your business in the first place when there are other businesses around that would just at the chance to get your money?

 

[Antares]

Seems that there are plenty of wedding planners, bakers and photographers so let me ask this question. Why would one want to do business with a company that didn't want your business in the first place when there are other businesses around that would just at the chance to get your money?

Just to force their way of life onto others.

 

[Amelia]

So why aren't you railing against public accommodation laws instead of civil marriage?

Why aren't you railing against Obama for being against gay marriage both times he ran, only to change his mind again? When I mean public accommodation, I mean anyone I find that I would rather not serve, that includes homosexuals. But back to the question. Why aren't you saying anything about Obama's changing stances on gay marriage? I love how you keep calling us bigoted and intolerant. This guy calls your bluff:

“Was he (Obama) a bigot 14 months ago?” Reed asked Maddow regarding Obama’s previous views, implying how difficult it would be for her to characterize other Democratic DOMA supporters such as Joe Biden and Harry Reid as “intolerant and motivated by an animus and a hatred for gays.”

RALPH REED: …this suggestion that because somebody wants to affirm the institution of marriage that they’re ipso facto intolerant? By that argument, Barack Obama was intolerant 14 months ago. By that argument, 342 members of the House, 85 members of the Senate, including, by the way, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, Pat Leahy, who all voted for this law, and Bill Clinton who signed it into law, were intolerant and motivated by an animus and a hatred for gays.

RACHEL MADDOW: They’ve all changed their mind on it. All of them.

RALPH REED: But…Obama was 14 months ago. Was he a bigot 14 months ago?

RACHEL MADDOW: Nobody’s calling anybody a bigot.

Was Obama a ?Bigot 14 Months Ago??: Ralph Reed Confronts Rachel Maddow, Rips Liberal Hypocrisy Over Who Is Labeled Anti-Gay | Video | TheBlaze.com

Why don't you rail against the people of the United States who have changed their minds....at least the majority has. Why whine about one person, the President, who seems to have grown up like many many other people have?

He grew up? Was he more grown up in 1996 than he was in 2006?

We rail against the Democrat shillery which props Obama up no matter what kind of hypocrisy he displays but which talks trash about sincere good-hearted people for their conscientiously held religious belief.

Obama was for gay marriage in 1996 when he thought that was prudent for his run for state senate. He was against it later when he needed to be against it so he could be a player on the national stage. But saying he was against it for political reasons sounded bad so then he became against it for religious reasons. The defense of Obama's principle-less pandering is breathtaking. But people who are against gay marriage for true religious reasons -- and not just because they're triangulating votes -- those people are bigots. lol

 

[KevinWestern]

Again Government getting involved in small business, never a good idea.
If the small businessman wants to stay in business he will adapt to market.

"Never a good idea"? What about when the government gets involved to investigate fraud that has hurt the business, or when the government enacts laws that make it illegal for a vendor not to pay the small business back for work?

There are exceptions to every rule, and some laws are acceptable. It is when the government tries to micromanage small businesses or treat them like large corporations that it becomes a problem.

Telling employers that they can't turn away applicants and specifically cite it's "because they're black" or "because they're gay" is hardly micromanaging.

I agree there's too many rules and regulations, but if you're worried about this one then you've likely got some character issues.

 

[George Costanza]

I think this issue has to do largely with what is being withheld from others for reasons of discrimination. Several decades ago, California passed an initiative which allowed homeowners to discriminate against minorities in the sale of their homes. The California Supremes struck down the law as unconstitutional. Housing is something you simply cannot deprive someone of for reasons of racial or ethnic bigotry. Housing is essential or, essential enough to get this type of protection.

Not sure that the catering needs of gay couples getting married rises to the same level as discimination in housing.

 

[Desperado]

Telling employers that they can't turn away applicants and specifically cite it's "because they're black" or "because they're gay" is hardly micromanaging.

I agree there's too many rules and regulations, but if you're worried about this one then you've likely got some character issues.

Actually that was not one of the laws I was thinking about

 

[squeeze berry]

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Were you born this stupid or do you work at it? The whole topic is business owners, like bakers who make wedding cakes, hall owners who rent reception halls, photographers that take wedding pictures, wedding planners, and the 101 other businesses that specialize in wedding related goods and services being forced by law to include offering these goods and services to sodomites and dykes who get legally married in jurisdictions that have gay "marriage" or get sued for discriminating against them. This has ALREADY happened dumbass, If you are telling bakers they have to bake a wedding cake for two sodomites that are getting married or they get sued, or if you tell a wedding planner that if they turn down two faggots or dykes just because they are faggots or dykes and you don't believe in gay marriage that they can be sued, or if you tell a person that rents out halls for wedding receptions that if they refuse to rent the hall to deviants who wish to celebrate their reception at your hall only because he believes gay marriage is immoral and against his religious beliefs he can be sued, you are forcing them to participate in a gay marriage/wedding. Damn you're an idiot.

If they don't approve of certain kinds of weddings, they shouldn't be in that kind of business.

Seems pretty simple to me.

I would look at it this way. You guys would make horrible businessmen the way you are always on about business.

their money is just as green as the straights, that's the way I look at it.

Coors and Chik-fil-A found that out, didn't they?

they both went out of business?

 

[Uncensored2008]

So you think it's appropriate for children to be raised by crazy white supremicists?

Please take the bait. Please take the bait.

Is it any worse than them being raised by fucktarded Communists, Comrade Stalin?

 

[Uncensored2008]

How is anyone going to be "forced to participate in a gay wedding"? The gay mafia going to shotgun you into attending weddings?

No, his royal majesty, Barack Hussein Obama II - Emperor of all the Americas, anointed above all gods, creator of the Universe, cum guzzler and turd burglar, will send his the personal henchmen, the IRS, to punish any who defy the royal decree of the GLORIOUS PEOPLES JUDGES who have made this law.

 

[bodecea]

[Personally not a concern of mine since as an employer I won't hire felons, dopers, blacks, atheists or homosexuals in the first place.

Wow...missed the blacks part the first time. You're an all inclusive bigot. You are breaking the law though.

Screw the law. It's MY business and I'll hire who I want to represent MY business. See I don't buy that bs obama's spoon feeding the ignorant. I built my business myself, and I will choose who I hire to represent it and me, and that would not include felons, dopers, drunks, homosexuals, negroes or heathens. Won't hire long haired, ear ring wearing hipsters or blatant liberals either.

Interesting.....so you don't follow any licenses, safety, health requirements, pay taxes, etc.

 

[bodecea]

You Libs can justify anything

Even facism.

Thanks Roo, very descriptive and insightful.

It is spot on.

The Left has no problem trying to force EVERYONE to think the same way they do.

Its just a fact of life.

a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control — J. W. Aldridge>

Fascism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

How about linking a definition of the word you used.

Facism.

 

[bodecea]

New rights should not be decided by a 5/9 majority of unelected job for life lawyers.

New rights are for the amendment process if we think they are important enough. Rights flow from the people, not from the bench.

"new rights"?

Find me some historical precedence for same sex marriage. if you can't I would call that new, and considering the use of the courts, you are implying it is a "right"

It's in the same historical precedence for opposite sex marriage.

 

[bodecea]

If they don't approve of certain kinds of weddings, they shouldn't be in that kind of business.

Seems pretty simple to me.

I would look at it this way. You guys would make horrible businessmen the way you are always on about business.

their money is just as green as the straights, that's the way I look at it.

Coors and Chik-fil-A found that out, didn't they?

Oh yeah, the Chik-fil-A boycott worked REAL well. You know they just use thier own money (from thier corporate salaries) to fund the exact same things, right?

Actually, it's still going on...and if you'd pay attention, Chik-fil-A has been backing down.

 

[bodecea]

No, you voted for the guy who lied to get his socially conservative black voters to come out in greater numbers, only to reverse course when he can't get re-elected, under the assumption that said black voters are in the bag, and won't really vote against democrats.

But just wait until some of thier buisnesses get sued for not participating in Gay cerimonies.

The backlash is a comin.

Oh...so they DIDN'T just vote for him because he was black......funny, that goes against what some RWrs have been telling us all along.

....and we didn't vote for him because he is half black?

You'll have to tell me. Is that why you didn't vote for him? Or DID you vote for him?

 

[bodecea]

No, you voted for the guy who lied to get his socially conservative black voters to come out in greater numbers, only to reverse course when he can't get re-elected, under the assumption that said black voters are in the bag, and won't really vote against democrats.

But just wait until some of thier buisnesses get sued for not participating in Gay cerimonies.

The backlash is a comin.

Oh...so they DIDN'T just vote for him because he was black......funny, that goes against what some RWrs have been telling us all along.

It would of been a question of turnout. If BO decided to come out in support of SSM before the election, I think alot of the more conservative socially black people might have stayed home.

Like they did in 2012?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Interesting.....so you don't follow any licenses, safety, health requirements, pay taxes, etc.

Our government has no respect for the law; why should we?

 

[bodecea]

If they don't approve of certain kinds of weddings, they shouldn't be in that kind of business.

Seems pretty simple to me.

I would look at it this way. You guys would make horrible businessmen the way you are always on about business.

their money is just as green as the straights, that's the way I look at it.

Coors and Chik-fil-A found that out, didn't they?

LMAO, Chik-Fil-A set records because of that stupid stunt.

For a very short period of time. How come the RW isn't in it for the long haul?

BTW...looks like Cathy is at it again.... Chick-Fil-A Founder?s Gay Marriage Tweet Deleted

 

[martybegan]

Oh...so they DIDN'T just vote for him because he was black......funny, that goes against what some RWrs have been telling us all along.

It would of been a question of turnout. If BO decided to come out in support of SSM before the election, I think alot of the more conservative socially black people might have stayed home.

Like they did in 2012?

It would have been worse if he came out for gay marriage before the election.

 

[bodecea]

Seems that there are plenty of wedding planners, bakers and photographers so let me ask this question. Why would one want to do business with a company that didn't want your business in the first place when there are other businesses around that would just at the chance to get your money?

I wouldn't. I support my community.