Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

[bedowin62]

the WORLD is more fair right now; why dont you diversity-loving LWNJs like that?

 

[bedowin62]

You can accomplish all of those without a single punitive action. Reducing corporate taxes would bring jobs and business back overnight.

I doubt it; and, you don't solve for structural forms of unemployment. We could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment under capitalism, by merely employing enough socialism to bailout capitalism, like usual.

You mean like they do in Greece?
Oh, wait ... that is capitalists bailing the "Worker's Paradise."

There's a difference between investment like r&d, education and infrastructure that grows the economy and what happened in greece. Of course, you're anti-civilization and don't have a clue.

Simply put Greece didn't invest but was idiotic with shit.

What Greeks did with OPM is typical of how left-led societies operate and where it inevitably leads. There's even a new name for it:

INEPTOCRACY - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or even try are rewarded - in exchange for their votes - with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers

Oh goodie, ANOTHER right wing meme based on bumper sticker thinking. WooHooo

you mean like "CHANGE"; the ultimate bumper-sticker meme?

 

[SAYIT]

Lefties are one-trick ponies. At least you don't try to masquerade your agenda.

"Eat the rich!" "Kill the banksters!" "Create my Worker's Paradise!"

that was last millennium; we have better propaganda and rhetoric now.

Why not simply Tax the Wealthiest into Heaven.

Official poverty in Heaven would result in maXimal at-will productivity.

from each according to his ability to each according to his need; what a communal concept.

Yean ... and as the 20th Century showed, it works sooo well.

Oh you mean CONservative policy that hoses EVERYONE but the 1%?

America's top 1% pays nearly 40% of all personal federal income tax while the bottom 48% gets a free ride. All those fine interstate highways you use? Relax ... you ain't paying a dime, Princess.

 

[bedowin62]

you have to consider what you debating; who you are debating; a bunch of left-wing idiots talking out of both sides of their mouths; trying to brag that we are so great under this President right now; while at the same time out of the other corner of their mouths crying about how terrible our whole system is.

 

[bedowin62]

We dont have the healthcare system (single payer) the Left wants, the tax rates the Left wants, the regulations the Left wants, the energy polcy the Left wants, .............................NOTHING the left-wingers here crying want;

but they're still bragging how great we are doing

consider that when debating these pathetic people

 

[hadit]

I mean the government that became big enough and powerful enough that it inevitably attracted money from those seeking influence. Remove government's ability to force things and you remove corruption.

You mean that Randian fetish that has NEVER worked anywhere? I don't care the size of Gov't, but want effective Gov't the opposite of the CONservatives/GOP

You're not going to get it, because your masters in the DNC don't want you to have it. Here's a clue for the terminally dumb. They SELL influence, and you fall for the fiction that they're mad at the other guys for selling influence. Useful indeed to them you are.

Weird, so the Dems putting forward reform bills meant what Bubs?

That they knew the bills would go nowhere and they never intended for them to become law, Cletus. Those with an IQ above room temperature understand that.

Weird, I thought SCOTUS said what the Dems passed and the GOP took to them to court on, CIT UNITED, was a start? Sadly I guess I was wrong, the Dems don't REALLY want to have reform, lol

No, they really don't. Republicans wanted, for example, to have greater oversight and regulation on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Remember that? Democrats shut it down. So, you can pull bits and pieces here and there, but they don't eliminate the overall love of Big Business Money democrats have.

 

[SAYIT]

Official poverty in Heaven would result in maXimal at-will productivity.

from each according to his ability to each according to his need; what a communal concept.

Communist not communal.

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The right wing is Amoral NOT American's!

Ideological idiocy. Your POV is amoral.

Yep, wanting to feed the hungry children, wanting everyone legally eligible to vote to vote, wanting those who by FARRRR make the most money should step up like they used too and help pay down the debt that helped them create the amount of concentrated wealth at the top today, is "amoral" in right wing world *shaking head*

Ah ... there's my boy. Trying to make your vision of the "Worker's Paradise" sound like paradise is typical of loony lefties but it just doesn't work and has been known to crush the very people about whom you pretend to care.

 

[SAYIT]

We dont have the healthcare system (single payer) the Left wants, the tax rates the Left wants, the regulations the Left wants, the energy polcy the Left wants, .............................NOTHING the left-wingers here crying want;

but they're still bragging how great we are doing

consider that when debating these pathetic people

Their vision, agenda and methodology in America is creeping socialism. In lucid moments they know they can't sell the whole package at once but they are always pushing it. The end game is their "Worker's Paradise."

 

[bedowin62]

left-wing leaders are neck-deep in everything their lemmings cry about

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

If you simplified the tax system then there would be less IRS agents needed, less Tax Accountants, and more people on unemployment. One reason why the left doesn't want Tax simplification, is then they don't have a Lois Lerner, going after conservative pac, or other ways to stifle opposition voices. So we will continue to see an unjust tax system that punishes those that have worked hard, and reward those that sit back, in their parents basement, typing on plastic made from OIL, and bitching about the country, that they wish wasn't here.

 

[SAYIT]

You can accomplish all of those without a single punitive action. Reducing corporate taxes would bring jobs and business back overnight.

I doubt it; and, you don't solve for structural forms of unemployment. We could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment under capitalism, by merely employing enough socialism to bailout capitalism, like usual.

You mean like they do in Greece?
Oh, wait ... that is capitalists bailing the "Worker's Paradise."

There's a difference between investment like r&d, education and infrastructure that grows the economy and what happened in greece. Of course, you're anti-civilization and don't have a clue.

Simply put Greece didn't invest but was idiotic with shit.

What Greeks did with OPM is typical of how left-led societies operate and where it inevitably leads. There's even a new name for it:

INEPTOCRACY - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or even try are rewarded - in exchange for their votes - with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers

Oh goodie, ANOTHER right wing meme based on bumper sticker thinking. WooHooo

Which is a shining beacon of truth when compared to your screaming loony left meme, Comrade.

 

[Dad2three]

that was last millennium; we have better propaganda and rhetoric now.

Why not simply Tax the Wealthiest into Heaven.

Official poverty in Heaven would result in maXimal at-will productivity.

from each according to his ability to each according to his need; what a communal concept.

Yean ... and as the 20th Century showed, it works sooo well.

Oh you mean CONservative policy that hoses EVERYONE but the 1%?

America's top 1% pays nearly 40% of all personal federal income tax while the bottom 48% gets a free ride. All those fine interstate highways you use? Relax ... you ain't paying a dime, Princess.

Income taxes? Oh right that 46% of ALL federal revenues? Sorry sweepea, but interstate highways AREN'T funded solely by income taxes, in fact the majority IS from gas/user taxes that fall mainly on the bottom 99%, oops

 

[Dad2three]

You mean that Randian fetish that has NEVER worked anywhere? I don't care the size of Gov't, but want effective Gov't the opposite of the CONservatives/GOP

You're not going to get it, because your masters in the DNC don't want you to have it. Here's a clue for the terminally dumb. They SELL influence, and you fall for the fiction that they're mad at the other guys for selling influence. Useful indeed to them you are.

Weird, so the Dems putting forward reform bills meant what Bubs?

That they knew the bills would go nowhere and they never intended for them to become law, Cletus. Those with an IQ above room temperature understand that.

Weird, I thought SCOTUS said what the Dems passed and the GOP took to them to court on, CIT UNITED, was a start? Sadly I guess I was wrong, the Dems don't REALLY want to have reform, lol

No, they really don't. Republicans wanted, for example, to have greater oversight and regulation on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Remember that? Democrats shut it down. So, you can pull bits and pieces here and there, but they don't eliminate the overall love of Big Business Money democrats have.

Oh right, in right wing "reality", Dems SAYING that GOP's plan to destroy F/F during the ACCOUNTING scandals of 2003-2004 GOP HOUSE HEARING WHERE DEMS COULD STOP NOT A SINGLE BILL THE GOP WANTED TO PASS, means the Dems had some super powers to stop Dubya's hosing of F/F later on as HE WAS THE REGULATOR?


BITS AND PIECES HUH? LOL

Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again

Testimony from Dubya's s Treasury Secretary John Snow to the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS concerning the 'regulations' of the GSE's 2004

Mr. BARNEY Frank: ...Are we in a crisis now with these entities?

Secretary Snow. No, that is a fair characterization, Congressman Frank, of our position. We are not putting this proposal before you because of some concern over some imminent danger to the financial system for housing; far from it.

OOPS ANOTHER MEME BUSTED

Yeah, Dems supported reform, GOP OPPOSE IT. FACTS BUBBA, TRY IT!

 

[Dad2three]

from each according to his ability to each according to his need; what a communal concept.

Communist not communal.

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The right wing is Amoral NOT American's!

Ideological idiocy. Your POV is amoral.

Yep, wanting to feed the hungry children, wanting everyone legally eligible to vote to vote, wanting those who by FARRRR make the most money should step up like they used too and help pay down the debt that helped them create the amount of concentrated wealth at the top today, is "amoral" in right wing world *shaking head*

Ah ... there's my boy. Trying to make your vision of the "Worker's Paradise" sound like paradise is typical of loony lefties but it just doesn't work and has been known to crush the very people about whom you pretend to care.

Oh without false premises, distortions and lies, what would wingnutters EVER have Bubba?

 

[Dad2three]

We dont have the healthcare system (single payer) the Left wants, the tax rates the Left wants, the regulations the Left wants, the energy polcy the Left wants, .............................NOTHING the left-wingers here crying want;

but they're still bragging how great we are doing

consider that when debating these pathetic people

Their vision, agenda and methodology in America is creeping socialism. In lucid moments they know they can't sell the whole package at once but they are always pushing it. The end game is their "Worker's Paradise."

No Bubba, that's the rights goal, with the oversight by the 1/10th of 1% who you get on your knees for though!

 

[bedowin62]

all you do is cry and make a fool of yourself Dad2 three
you're depserate to keep this thread alive; because mean ol rich people need to pay..................

seriously how pathetic

 

[bedowin62]

We dont have the healthcare system (single payer) the Left wants, the tax rates the Left wants, the regulations the Left wants, the energy polcy the Left wants, .............................NOTHING the left-wingers here crying want;

but they're still bragging how great we are doing

consider that when debating these pathetic people

Their vision, agenda and methodology in America is creeping socialism. In lucid moments they know they can't sell the whole package at once but they are always pushing it. The end game is their "Worker's Paradise."

No Bubba, that's the rights goal, with the oversight by the 1/10th of 1% who you get on your knees for though!

we have literally millions of pages of "oversight". it's never enough for you idiots.

you want to crush the very people that make the things you want to offer people possible. ......

 

[bedowin62]

Mr. BARNEY Frank: ...Are we in a crisis now with these entities?

Secretary Snow. No, that is a fair characterization, Congressman Frank, of our position. We are not putting this proposal before you because of some concern over some imminent danger to the financial system for housing; far from it.

OOPS ANOTHER MEME BUSTED

which only means they didnt foresee a complete collapse and a bubble bursting AS IT DID.

THAT DOESNT PROVE REPUBS DIDNT TRY TO DO SOMETHING

it proves REPUBS DID TRY, and it still actually shows WHAT THE POSTER SAID TO BEGIN WITH; that conserns in the housing market WERE BROUGHT UP BY REPUBLICANS; and DOWNPLAYED BY DEMOCRATS

 

[bedowin62]

Barney Frank said " THERE'S NOTHING WRONG AT FANNIE MAE"
which is of course a whole different thing than Snow saying he didnt see an "imminent danger to the financial system". one is saying "NOTHING IS WRONG", THE OTHER IS SAYING THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG.

you lose again Dad2; you just keep proving left-wingers are never man enough to admit their are wron; or their leaders were wrong

 

[Boss]

bedowin, you are talking to idiots who think we tax wealth assets in America.