Should we NO longer trust our intelligence-gathering systems?

[TemplarKormac]

Its always "good" (if still moronic) to switch blame......Its what folks at FOX would want you to do.

So you're justifying it by what FOX does. Smart.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Let's say the Russians did try to hack the elections, were they successful? Is there any proof that they hacked paper ballots? That they were able to hack into stand alone voting machines? What exactly is it they are alleged to have done?

1. They hacked into the voter databases of several states. What can happen is, they can claim an absentee ballot, and that the person lives in another country or state, thus the mailed-in vote counts, and the actual person doesn't get to vote (if they show up).
2. They can hack into the software for the electronic vote machines, so if the software is updated, they'll give wrong results.
3. They can hack into the server that centralizes the vote results.

Types of fraud that can be committed by people on the ground (not hacking):
1. Not allowing people to vote.
2. Wrongly counting votes, especially if no opposing observers are present.
3. Introducing fraudulent votes.

You have no evidence.

Evidence of what is possible?

What is possible, but not existential.

 

[Freewill]

Is there any proof that they hacked paper ballots?

How can you hack paper? You mean with a pair of scissors or something?

Geez, do you need the Russians to tell us to use an eraser?