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This is proof that atheists believe what they want even lies. It's just like evolution. It was Noah who sent his bird to seek dry land.That's not true. As I recall Noah saw a bird and knew that land had appeared because it found a fresh olive leaf. Obviously some life survived.
smh. Even more evidence that atheists believe what they want. Witnesses from both sides confirmed it. There were things that happened that could not be explained rationally. We still take notice today and this is the message.And one of the two greatest supernatural miracles, the resurrection, that only a few took notice of.
That's rich coming from someone with a B&W avatar from a century ago.I am saying that you are not qualified to be a science teacher because you think in Black & White.
Who was more ingenious at nuance than anyone in history.That's rich coming from someone with a B&W avatar from a century ago.
If all living things died in the flood (does that include fish and bacteria) how could that bird find a fresh olive leaf?This is proof that atheists believe what they want even lies. It's just like evolution. It was Noah who sent his bird to seek dry land.
What were the two sides?Witnesses from both sides confirmed it.
I don't know everyone in history so I'll have to take your word for it. I am a fan of his of course.Who was more ingenious at nuance than anyone in history.
When James B. tries to use that as scientific proof, he forgets that real proof should be that the plethora of floods all happened within a very short window of 40 days at around 2304 BC. But those people around the world presumably drowned.Flood stories exist all over the world and they most likely happened.
The flood stories across the world only support a finding that there was extensive flooding. Of course, ancient writers in the Middle East would have some passed-down memory of flooding in their area. Look at the Bosphorus strait. They were locals who would have had no idea about other areas of the world that they didn't even know existed. People of all cultures have attributed things that they didn't understand to supernatural behavior. Remember that thousands of years passed after the writing of Genesis before people like the Vikings and Christopher Columbus accidently bumped into a large land mass, now known as the Western Hemisphere. They were probably quite surprised to find that other people were living there who had other beliefs.The flood stories over the world from the ancient times back up the one true supernatural Noah's Flood. We also have the fountain of the deep ring around the world where the water from the oceans came up. It caused the Himalayas and Mt. Everest to rise and cover our surface with 3/4 water. That's hard evidence and real science. It's like the atheists go blind when presented with the truth.
When James B. tries to use that as scientific proof, he forgets that real proof should be that the plethora of floods all happened within a very short window of 40 days at around 2304 BC. But those people around the world presumably drowned.
Now, you're changing your story. You need to own up to your wrongness. Atheists are usually wrong. 20 lashes should be reigned down upon you for every wrong lol. Why don't you continue this rewriting of a story BY YOU of what happened so Noah knew that he had found land and it was safe to disembark?If all living things died in the flood (does that include fish and bacteria) how could that bird find a fresh olive leaf?
What were the two sides?
You might want to read the Bible before you talk about it. If you were a better reader you'd see that my story has not changed.Now, you're changing your story. You need to own up to your wrongness. Atheists are usually wrong. 20 lashes should be reigned down upon you for every wrong lol. Why don't you continue this rewriting of a story BY YOU of what happened so Noah knew that he had found land and it was safe to disembark?
>>That's not true. As I recall Noah saw a bird and knew that land had appeared because it found a fresh olive leaf. Obviously some life survived.<<You might want to read the Bible before you talk about it. If you were a better reader you'd see that my story has not changed.
Genesis 8:
10 He waited seven more days and again sent out the dove from the ark.
11 When the dove returned to him in the evening, there in its beak was a freshly plucked olive leaf! Then Noah knew that the water had receded from the earth.
Creation science is backed by the scientific method, so it should be taught in schools. Part of the problem is science today only accepts what is natural in the physical world. It is based on the philosophy of empiricism, but today's science does not follow it nor is it backed by the scientific method. What today's science of evolution is backed by is consensus and circumstantial forensic evidence. Why only evolution is taught in schools is because today's science does not allow for a supernatural creator to be involved in the "creation" of the universe, Earth, and everything in it. This is not science when evidence can be provided for the supernatural in creation through the Bible. It is part of Genesis and how God created the natural world. The assumption that there was no supernatural occurrence during the beginning is unscientific. One of the most basic arguments for a creator is the universe began to exist, not an eternal universe, and we have Kalam's Cosmological argument.
Furthermore, we are here -- the universe and everything in it exists! Now, if evolution and its big bang could explain in detail of how the electromagnetic spectrum, the Higgs field, the cosmic microwave background, and how amino acids formed into proteins in outer space from nothing or invisible quantum particles, then they would have a better explanation and argument with big bang. We need to have the theory fit the evidence instead of the evidence made to fit the theory. Science should not just be based on empiricism, but also on a priori reasoning in addition to the scientific a posteriori reasoning. This is all part of epistemology. We need to use facts, reasoning, and historical truths in science since not everything can be proven by scientific method.
I've read Dr. John Morris' explanation for a creator -- Should the Public Schools Teach Creation? -- and today we have a more updated version from Lee Strobel -- Strong case, but flawed by compromise (Review of Lee Strobel, Case for Creator) - creation.com. creation.com gives a brief overview without reading his book. Sorry, I haven't read his book, but have watched the video below.
Jeez. Try to get that past the Board of School Directors.We should teach this Noah's Flood and creation science in schools as there is scientific evidence for the global flood.
That's not true -- Can creation be taught in public schools?. My take is creationism can be taught in public school as creation science, i.e. Genesis only. The Bible can be used as a textbook, but rather see a textbook made specifically for its teaching. It could be creation vs. evolution, but that is too contentious. I've never seen a science class taught that way. I rather see creation science taught as an elective, at first. Regardless, we'll have to fight ACLU and teachers will have to check the local law.Religionism under a burqa of the phony label called creationism has been addressed repeatedly by the courts. “Cretinism” lost.
I understand how desperate you are to force your religious view on others, especially in the public schools but that horse is not just dead, it’s a Montanan fossil.That's not true -- Can creation be taught in public schools?. My take is creationism can be taught in public school as creation science, i.e. Genesis only. The Bible can be used as a textbook, but rather see a textbook made specifically for its teaching. It could be creation vs. evolution, but that is too contentious. I've never seen a science class taught that way. I rather see creation science taught as an elective, at first. Regardless, we'll have to fight ACLU and teachers will have to check the local law.
I remember the incident. I was able to refresh my memory from a long article at the web site:Dover was perhaps the last gasp for fundamentalist Christians to force religion nto the public schools.
You leave out atheism which is a belief in no God nor gods. "A belief is just an assumption that something is factual, without any factual basis to it."
OTOH, Christianity has the existence of the universe, Earth, and everything in it. It is in the Bible which explains step-by-step how everything was created from void of nothing. The Bible isn't a science book, but science backs it up. Thus, I have something that is factual and has factual basis. Thus, you are wrong.
The Biblical evidence shows how we are here from the only eyewitness who was here at the time. From God himself. This is not a belief, but a finding. The Bible is God's word and his auto-biography.
I said that many times, but he doesn't have anything further to say. He won't rationalize the out-of-order sequence of the 6 days of creation, and he makes up a weird and very incomplete story about the flood that is clearly not implied in the Bible.Science does NOT back up the Bible by any stretch of the imagination. Even the great sage Rambam deferred to science.
You're a troll and being ignored by me. Real science backs up the Bible while no science backs up evolution; It's not observable nor testable. Just stop discussing me with others as you should just ignore what I have to say since I'm the troll to you.I said that many times, but he doesn't have anything further to say. He won't rationalize the out-of-order sequence of the 6 days of creation, and he makes up a weird and very incomplete story about the flood that is clearly not implied in the Bible.
