Slut Or Not??

[Barb]

How much screaming about the first amendment and / or states rights was done in opposition to those changes?

Who cares? It doesn't alter the fact that you were openly lying in the most outrageous of manners.

The fact is that you are a perfect demonstration of the fact that your party has zero integrity. You want to win, so you'll say whatever you think will make you win. That what you say is an absurd lie doesn't even slow you for a second, you don't give a fuck, expanding power for the party is the ONLY objective - ethical dissemination isn't even a consideration to you. Truth, lies, half-truths, it's all the same - you say that which serves the party - which is the ONLY consideration.

I find that highly shameful.

I said, "since I got out of hs," and just because you don't like it, and just because your side has been thwarted over time doesn't make what I said a "lie."

You find a lot of things "shameful." It turns you on.

sicko

 

[Cammmpbell]

More middle class taxpayers benefited from the Bush tax cuts than the wealthy by far. Many were taken off the tax roles for federal income taxes completely and now only 50.7% of taxpayers pay federal income tax.

Those taken off the income tax roles were hardly middle class.

It's true that more middle class people benefited than wealthy people (because there are more middle-class people to begin with), but not true that the middle class benefited more, which is the proper question.

Let us take a look at what happened with the Bush tax cuts:
The Bush tax cuts put the rich paying more taxes after they were initiated than any time in the prior 20 years.
1990 the richest 1% paid 25% of all income taxes and in 2005 they paid 45% of all income taxes.
The richest 5% went from paying 44% of all income taxes in 1990 to paying 60% of all income taxes in 2005.
In 1980 the top income tax rate was 70% and the top 1% paid 19 % of all income taxes. They cut it in half.
Wall Street Journal analysis. 12/7/07

Bush cut taxes twice...2001 and 2003. He used the reconciliation procedure to block any Democratic opposition. I would like for you to look at what happened to the upper 1% right after the second cut in 2003:

 

[High_Gravity]

Well the Bunny Ranch can charge those outrageous prices because they are one of only legal brothels in the US, if the business was legal and more legal places like the Ranch started popping up everywhere, they would have to lower their prices because you wouldn't have as many people flying out there to get laid and for all those freaky bachelor parties they have.

Oh please! You can't be that naive! If you can't get a high end whore for your bachelor party just go to a fairly decent hotel and ask the concierge! Most bartenders in upscale bars know who they are too. Look in the phone book under escort services or massage services. When I graduated law school we hired one for our favorite professor. We hired her right out of the yellow pages! As a bonus, the whole class got the strip show. She didn't even charge extra.

Legalized prostitution won't solve any problems, not even by making nationwide bachelor parties more affordable. Should it be legal? I don't much care, saying it should be legal because it will have some benefit is just false pretenses.

Of course legalized prostitution makes a massive difference...YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU ARE A LAWYER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it beggars belief that you would hold such views,there is clear a documentary evidence and the actual physical on the ground proof.

Reasons include.....elimination of Pimps,continued health care for the women (and NO rubber NO fuck policy) check ups every week to prevent STD's from the MALE Clients......now none exsistance of personal or physical abuse and violence against the prostitutes.......NO CURB CRAWLING as women are not allow to walk the streets,creating safety for themselves.......almost total elimination of drug taking by the femme of the night..............drug pushers are harshly deal with by security.(Beaten Up,I believe it only happened on one occasion,and word soon got around)

You sound almost immature in the way you described "Bachelor Parties and a prostitute for your Alma-Ata"...............You are the type no doubt as a male that thinks it is OK to name call these women as WHORES,SLUTS etc., yet you take NO THOUGHT THAT YOU ARE PAYING TO WHAT IS A FORM OF ABUSE,and who is the REAL WHORE??????I'll tell you straight........YOU ARE, YOU PATHETIC voyeur sorry lawyer???? Your posts are a shame,which is exactly what YOU are, you creep. Now bend over and see how I kick your sorry ASS.....SLUT.
theliq What sort of Dickhead is Katzudags anyway

Go Liq Go!

 

[Gadawg73]

Those taken off the income tax roles were hardly middle class.

It's true that more middle class people benefited than wealthy people (because there are more middle-class people to begin with), but not true that the middle class benefited more, which is the proper question.

Let us take a look at what happened with the Bush tax cuts:
The Bush tax cuts put the rich paying more taxes after they were initiated than any time in the prior 20 years.
1990 the richest 1% paid 25% of all income taxes and in 2005 they paid 45% of all income taxes.
The richest 5% went from paying 44% of all income taxes in 1990 to paying 60% of all income taxes in 2005.
In 1980 the top income tax rate was 70% and the top 1% paid 19 % of all income taxes. They cut it in half.
Wall Street Journal analysis. 12/7/07

Bush cut taxes twice...2001 and 2003. He used the reconciliation procedure to block any Democratic opposition. I would like for you to look at what happened to the upper 1% right after the second cut in 2003:

Do even have a clue that your graph proves my point??
Tax revenues go up BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS MADE A SHIT LOAD OF $$$$$$$!
If that doesn't make sense to you then you need a basic Econ 101 course.
We doubled the tax revenues going into government, the top 1% paid TWICE AS MUCH IN TAX REVENUES AND TWICE AS MUCH AS A % OF TOTAL TAXES PAID when the tax rate was cut from 70% to 35%.
When you allow folks to keep more of what they make the tax revenues always increase.
$$$ left in the private sector is invested and spent.
There is an interview with Obama and I believe Matt Laurer. Laurer showed Obama this, the fact that the wealthy now pay twice as much as a % of all taxes paid as a result of the top rate going from 70% to 35% and Obama admitted that was true. This was Obama's response, "Well, that is true, when we give tax cuts to the rich the amount of taxes they pay as a % of all income taxes goes up but revenue streams do not tell the story. It simply IS NOT FAIR that the wealthy got a tax break and that is all that matters, fairness."
People do not care about the health of the nation and the amount of tax revenues total collected. They care about what "is fair" and they care if someone gets to keep the $$ THEY FUCKING EARNED.
Happy to educate you in economics.

 

[Katzndogz]

Well the Bunny Ranch can charge those outrageous prices because they are one of only legal brothels in the US, if the business was legal and more legal places like the Ranch started popping up everywhere, they would have to lower their prices because you wouldn't have as many people flying out there to get laid and for all those freaky bachelor parties they have.

Oh please! You can't be that naive! If you can't get a high end whore for your bachelor party just go to a fairly decent hotel and ask the concierge! Most bartenders in upscale bars know who they are too. Look in the phone book under escort services or massage services. When I graduated law school we hired one for our favorite professor. We hired her right out of the yellow pages! As a bonus, the whole class got the strip show. She didn't even charge extra.

Legalized prostitution won't solve any problems, not even by making nationwide bachelor parties more affordable. Should it be legal? I don't much care, saying it should be legal because it will have some benefit is just false pretenses.

Of course legalized prostitution makes a massive difference...YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU ARE A LAWYER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it beggars belief that you would hold such views,there is clear a documentary evidence and the actual physical on the ground proof.

Reasons include.....elimination of Pimps,continued health care for the women (and NO rubber NO fuck policy) check ups every week to prevent STD's from the MALE Clients......now none exsistance of personal or physical abuse and violence against the prostitutes.......NO CURB CRAWLING as women are not allow to walk the streets,creating safety for themselves.......almost total elimination of drug taking by the femme of the night..............drug pushers are harshly deal with by security.(Beaten Up,I believe it only happened on one occasion,and word soon got around)

You sound almost immature in the way you described "Bachelor Parties and a prostitute for your Alma-Ata"...............You are the type no doubt as a male that thinks it is OK to name call these women as WHORES,SLUTS etc., yet you take NO THOUGHT THAT YOU ARE PAYING TO WHAT IS A FORM OF ABUSE,and who is the REAL WHORE??????I'll tell you straight........YOU ARE, YOU PATHETIC voyeur sorry lawyer???? Your posts are a shame,which is exactly what YOU are, you creep. Now bend over and see how I kick your sorry ASS.....SLUT.
theliq What sort of Dickhead is Katzudags anyway

You are just wrong. Sorry. Look at how legalized prostitution has worked out in countries that have had it for awhile. It's been a dismal falure in solving the issues of pimps, spread of disease or anything else. Everywhere. They end up with legalized prostitution and every other problem they had to begin with. There will always be men looking for a bargain and women willing to undercut the legal purveyors to make a buck. There will always be pimps and they will always beat their whores up.

I don't think whores are sluts. Whores at least charge for their services and thus have some kind of integrity. Sluts steal the clientele from the whores and give it away free.

You main mistake in thinking I'm a male to begin with. You do this because you have built in biases that you can't overcome. As a woman, I really don't care whether prostitution is legalized or not. Some women will choose to become legal whores and work in a legal brothel, but some won't. Some men will choose only to patronize legal whorehouses and some will not, they'll go for the bargain or a women that won't insist on a condom. Still others will change girlfriends every night for the price of dinner and a movie instead. Why don't all the whores in Nevada work in a legal brothel? It's legal, seems like an enterprising pimp could buy some property out in the boonies and rake in big bucks. They don't. Why not?

Perhaps the most famous "trick" is Eliot Spitzer who patronized high end whores but had an objection to using a condom. The difference at the high end is that a whore at that level gets $2,000 a turn. Don't use a condom and it goes up to $5,000. Now even if, stretching it, even if a legal brothel obeys the no condom no sex law, it isn't going to stop some guy from taking his chances with Deseree off the corner to fuck without a condom.

No curb crawling! What are you proposing? To make unlicensed prostitution illegal! Seems like you just took prostitution from being illegal to making prostitution illegal.

 

[High_Gravity]

Oh please! You can't be that naive! If you can't get a high end whore for your bachelor party just go to a fairly decent hotel and ask the concierge! Most bartenders in upscale bars know who they are too. Look in the phone book under escort services or massage services. When I graduated law school we hired one for our favorite professor. We hired her right out of the yellow pages! As a bonus, the whole class got the strip show. She didn't even charge extra.

Legalized prostitution won't solve any problems, not even by making nationwide bachelor parties more affordable. Should it be legal? I don't much care, saying it should be legal because it will have some benefit is just false pretenses.

Of course legalized prostitution makes a massive difference...YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU ARE A LAWYER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it beggars belief that you would hold such views,there is clear a documentary evidence and the actual physical on the ground proof.

Reasons include.....elimination of Pimps,continued health care for the women (and NO rubber NO fuck policy) check ups every week to prevent STD's from the MALE Clients......now none exsistance of personal or physical abuse and violence against the prostitutes.......NO CURB CRAWLING as women are not allow to walk the streets,creating safety for themselves.......almost total elimination of drug taking by the femme of the night..............drug pushers are harshly deal with by security.(Beaten Up,I believe it only happened on one occasion,and word soon got around)

You sound almost immature in the way you described "Bachelor Parties and a prostitute for your Alma-Ata"...............You are the type no doubt as a male that thinks it is OK to name call these women as WHORES,SLUTS etc., yet you take NO THOUGHT THAT YOU ARE PAYING TO WHAT IS A FORM OF ABUSE,and who is the REAL WHORE??????I'll tell you straight........YOU ARE, YOU PATHETIC voyeur sorry lawyer???? Your posts are a shame,which is exactly what YOU are, you creep. Now bend over and see how I kick your sorry ASS.....SLUT.
theliq What sort of Dickhead is Katzudags anyway

You are just wrong. Sorry. Look at how legalized prostitution has worked out in countries that have had it for awhile. It's been a dismal falure in solving the issues of pimps, spread of disease or anything else. Everywhere. They end up with legalized prostitution and every other problem they had to begin with. There will always be men looking for a bargain and women willing to undercut the legal purveyors to make a buck. There will always be pimps and they will always beat their whores up.

I don't think whores are sluts. Whores at least charge for their services and thus have some kind of integrity. Sluts steal the clientele from the whores and give it away free.

You main mistake in thinking I'm a male to begin with. You do this because you have built in biases that you can't overcome. As a woman, I really don't care whether prostitution is legalized or not. Some women will choose to become legal whores and work in a legal brothel, but some won't. Some men will choose only to patronize legal whorehouses and some will not, they'll go for the bargain or a women that won't insist on a condom. Still others will change girlfriends every night for the price of dinner and a movie instead. Why don't all the whores in Nevada work in a legal brothel? It's legal, seems like an enterprising pimp could buy some property out in the boonies and rake in big bucks. They don't. Why not?

Perhaps the most famous "trick" is Eliot Spitzer who patronized high end whores but had an objection to using a condom. The difference at the high end is that a whore at that level gets $2,000 a turn. Don't use a condom and it goes up to $5,000. Now even if, stretching it, even if a legal brothel obeys the no condom no sex law, it isn't going to stop some guy from taking his chances with Deseree off the corner to fuck without a condom.

No curb crawling! What are you proposing? To make unlicensed prostitution illegal! Seems like you just took prostitution from being illegal to making prostitution illegal.

Katz the reason all the prostitutes in Nevada don't work for those legal ranches is because it is actually very hard and competitive to get in, women from all across the country apply to work at those ranches because the pay is very, very good. I watched a few episodes of the Bunny Ranch on HBO where a mother/daughter team both got accepted to work there and pair of twin sisters, if most of those street walkers in Nevada had a choice to work on a safe ranch with room, board, security and where they get to pick their own clientele andthey must use condoms, I would have to think most working girls would choose to do that. Like I said before the only reason most guys arent going to the Bunny Ranch is because its too damn expensive.

 

[Foxfyre]

HG hit the issue on the head. Just as somebody earlier hit it on the head that bootleggers are still in business and have been despite prohibitiion being repealed and liquor being legally sold just about everywhere. Why? Because the bootleggers can sell it much more cheaply and make a good profit than can the legal dealers. The product won't be as safe, but those wanting it cheap don't care.

Same with prostitution. Legalize it, license it, regulate it, tax it, and the costs go up. People who can afford a safer prostitute will go that route. But the unlicensed, illegal pimps and prostitutes will still have a clientele because there are people who want it cheap despite the risks.

So......my preference is that each state or each community do with it whatever they want. Those places that don't want prostitution should be able to vote it down and keep it illegal. Those who want it should legalize it, regulate it, tax it as they see fit. That's probably the best we're going to be able to do and say that we are a free society that governs itself.

 

[High_Gravity]

HG hit the issue on the head. Just as somebody earlier hit it on the head that bootleggers are still in business and have been despite prohibitiion being repealed and liquor being legally sold just about everywhere. Why? Because the bootleggers can sell it much more cheaply and make a good profit than can the legal dealers. The product won't be as safe, but those wanting it cheap don't care.

Same with prostitution. Legalize it, license it, regulate it, tax it, and the costs go up. People who can afford a safer prostitute will go that route. But the unlicensed, illegal pimps and prostitutes will still have a clientele because there are people who want it cheap despite the risks.

So......my preference is that each state or each community do with it whatever they want. Those places that don't want prostitution should be able to vote it down and keep it illegal. Those who want it should legalize it, regulate it, tax it as they see fit. That's probably the best we're going to be able to do and say that we are a free society that governs itself.

I can agree with that.

 

[Katzndogz]

Of course legalized prostitution makes a massive difference...YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU ARE A LAWYER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it beggars belief that you would hold such views,there is clear a documentary evidence and the actual physical on the ground proof.

Reasons include.....elimination of Pimps,continued health care for the women (and NO rubber NO fuck policy) check ups every week to prevent STD's from the MALE Clients......now none exsistance of personal or physical abuse and violence against the prostitutes.......NO CURB CRAWLING as women are not allow to walk the streets,creating safety for themselves.......almost total elimination of drug taking by the femme of the night..............drug pushers are harshly deal with by security.(Beaten Up,I believe it only happened on one occasion,and word soon got around)

You sound almost immature in the way you described "Bachelor Parties and a prostitute for your Alma-Ata"...............You are the type no doubt as a male that thinks it is OK to name call these women as WHORES,SLUTS etc., yet you take NO THOUGHT THAT YOU ARE PAYING TO WHAT IS A FORM OF ABUSE,and who is the REAL WHORE??????I'll tell you straight........YOU ARE, YOU PATHETIC voyeur sorry lawyer???? Your posts are a shame,which is exactly what YOU are, you creep. Now bend over and see how I kick your sorry ASS.....SLUT.
theliq What sort of Dickhead is Katzudags anyway

You are just wrong. Sorry. Look at how legalized prostitution has worked out in countries that have had it for awhile. It's been a dismal falure in solving the issues of pimps, spread of disease or anything else. Everywhere. They end up with legalized prostitution and every other problem they had to begin with. There will always be men looking for a bargain and women willing to undercut the legal purveyors to make a buck. There will always be pimps and they will always beat their whores up.

I don't think whores are sluts. Whores at least charge for their services and thus have some kind of integrity. Sluts steal the clientele from the whores and give it away free.

You main mistake in thinking I'm a male to begin with. You do this because you have built in biases that you can't overcome. As a woman, I really don't care whether prostitution is legalized or not. Some women will choose to become legal whores and work in a legal brothel, but some won't. Some men will choose only to patronize legal whorehouses and some will not, they'll go for the bargain or a women that won't insist on a condom. Still others will change girlfriends every night for the price of dinner and a movie instead. Why don't all the whores in Nevada work in a legal brothel? It's legal, seems like an enterprising pimp could buy some property out in the boonies and rake in big bucks. They don't. Why not?

Perhaps the most famous "trick" is Eliot Spitzer who patronized high end whores but had an objection to using a condom. The difference at the high end is that a whore at that level gets $2,000 a turn. Don't use a condom and it goes up to $5,000. Now even if, stretching it, even if a legal brothel obeys the no condom no sex law, it isn't going to stop some guy from taking his chances with Deseree off the corner to fuck without a condom.

No curb crawling! What are you proposing? To make unlicensed prostitution illegal! Seems like you just took prostitution from being illegal to making prostitution illegal.

Katz the reason all the prostitutes in Nevada don't work for those legal ranches is because it is actually very hard and competitive to get in, women from all across the country apply to work at those ranches because the pay is very, very good. I watched a few episodes of the Bunny Ranch on HBO where a mother/daughter team both got accepted to work there and pair of twin sisters, if most of those street walkers in Nevada had a choice to work on a safe ranch with room, board, security and where they get to pick their own clientele andthey must use condoms, I would have to think most working girls would choose to do that. Like I said before the only reason most guys arent going to the Bunny Ranch is because its too damn expensive.

That's your problem! No most street walkers wouldn't work in a legal brothel. There is nothing to stop someone from opening a legal brothel. These pimps could open one within weeks if they wanted to and they have the money to do it. They don't want to pay taxes or keep records. They don't want a doctor examining them once a month. They do want to take their drugs. And, more than anything, they do want their pimps. In a legal brothel, no one is going to pretend to love these whores like pimps do. Otherwise, legalizing prostitution would be successful and solve all these social problems elsewhere. It hasn't worked that way.

I'm in no way saying that we should keep prostitution illegal. Just don't expect too much if we make it legal. We will have both. No way around it. And it shouldn't be considered an occupation such that women who refuse sex work can be penalized either.

 

[High_Gravity]

You are just wrong. Sorry. Look at how legalized prostitution has worked out in countries that have had it for awhile. It's been a dismal falure in solving the issues of pimps, spread of disease or anything else. Everywhere. They end up with legalized prostitution and every other problem they had to begin with. There will always be men looking for a bargain and women willing to undercut the legal purveyors to make a buck. There will always be pimps and they will always beat their whores up.

I don't think whores are sluts. Whores at least charge for their services and thus have some kind of integrity. Sluts steal the clientele from the whores and give it away free.

You main mistake in thinking I'm a male to begin with. You do this because you have built in biases that you can't overcome. As a woman, I really don't care whether prostitution is legalized or not. Some women will choose to become legal whores and work in a legal brothel, but some won't. Some men will choose only to patronize legal whorehouses and some will not, they'll go for the bargain or a women that won't insist on a condom. Still others will change girlfriends every night for the price of dinner and a movie instead. Why don't all the whores in Nevada work in a legal brothel? It's legal, seems like an enterprising pimp could buy some property out in the boonies and rake in big bucks. They don't. Why not?

Perhaps the most famous "trick" is Eliot Spitzer who patronized high end whores but had an objection to using a condom. The difference at the high end is that a whore at that level gets $2,000 a turn. Don't use a condom and it goes up to $5,000. Now even if, stretching it, even if a legal brothel obeys the no condom no sex law, it isn't going to stop some guy from taking his chances with Deseree off the corner to fuck without a condom.

No curb crawling! What are you proposing? To make unlicensed prostitution illegal! Seems like you just took prostitution from being illegal to making prostitution illegal.

Katz the reason all the prostitutes in Nevada don't work for those legal ranches is because it is actually very hard and competitive to get in, women from all across the country apply to work at those ranches because the pay is very, very good. I watched a few episodes of the Bunny Ranch on HBO where a mother/daughter team both got accepted to work there and pair of twin sisters, if most of those street walkers in Nevada had a choice to work on a safe ranch with room, board, security and where they get to pick their own clientele andthey must use condoms, I would have to think most working girls would choose to do that. Like I said before the only reason most guys arent going to the Bunny Ranch is because its too damn expensive.

That's your problem! No most street walkers wouldn't work in a legal brothel. There is nothing to stop someone from opening a legal brothel. These pimps could open one within weeks if they wanted to and they have the money to do it. They don't want to pay taxes or keep records. They don't want a doctor examining them once a month. They do want to take their drugs. And, more than anything, they do want their pimps. In a legal brothel, no one is going to pretend to love these whores like pimps do. Otherwise, legalizing prostitution would be successful and solve all these social problems elsewhere. It hasn't worked that way.

I'm in no way saying that we should keep prostitution illegal. Just don't expect too much if we make it legal. We will have both. No way around it. And it shouldn't be considered an occupation such that women who refuse sex work can be penalized either.

How can pimps open a legal brothel when prostitution is illegal in most of the country?

 

[Katzndogz]

Good thing fetish isn't illegal or we'd be talking about fetish brothels.

 

[Katzndogz]

Katz the reason all the prostitutes in Nevada don't work for those legal ranches is because it is actually very hard and competitive to get in, women from all across the country apply to work at those ranches because the pay is very, very good. I watched a few episodes of the Bunny Ranch on HBO where a mother/daughter team both got accepted to work there and pair of twin sisters, if most of those street walkers in Nevada had a choice to work on a safe ranch with room, board, security and where they get to pick their own clientele andthey must use condoms, I would have to think most working girls would choose to do that. Like I said before the only reason most guys arent going to the Bunny Ranch is because its too damn expensive.

That's your problem! No most street walkers wouldn't work in a legal brothel. There is nothing to stop someone from opening a legal brothel. These pimps could open one within weeks if they wanted to and they have the money to do it. They don't want to pay taxes or keep records. They don't want a doctor examining them once a month. They do want to take their drugs. And, more than anything, they do want their pimps. In a legal brothel, no one is going to pretend to love these whores like pimps do. Otherwise, legalizing prostitution would be successful and solve all these social problems elsewhere. It hasn't worked that way.

I'm in no way saying that we should keep prostitution illegal. Just don't expect too much if we make it legal. We will have both. No way around it. And it shouldn't be considered an occupation such that women who refuse sex work can be penalized either.

How can pimps open a legal brothel when prostitution is illegal in most of the country?

Nye County Nevada is a big place. Open one there. Steal the trade out of Vegas, Jean and Laughlin. The point is, legal prostitution hasn't solved one problem where it is legal. It would work just like that anywhere.

 

[High_Gravity]

That's your problem! No most street walkers wouldn't work in a legal brothel. There is nothing to stop someone from opening a legal brothel. These pimps could open one within weeks if they wanted to and they have the money to do it. They don't want to pay taxes or keep records. They don't want a doctor examining them once a month. They do want to take their drugs. And, more than anything, they do want their pimps. In a legal brothel, no one is going to pretend to love these whores like pimps do. Otherwise, legalizing prostitution would be successful and solve all these social problems elsewhere. It hasn't worked that way.

I'm in no way saying that we should keep prostitution illegal. Just don't expect too much if we make it legal. We will have both. No way around it. And it shouldn't be considered an occupation such that women who refuse sex work can be penalized either.

How can pimps open a legal brothel when prostitution is illegal in most of the country?

Nye County Nevada is a big place. Open one there. Steal the trade out of Vegas, Jean and Laughlin.

Thats just one place though, pimps in Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles and Milwaukee cannot open a legal brothel if they tried.

 

[High_Gravity]

Good thing fetish isn't illegal or we'd be talking about fetish brothels.

I like fetish.

 

[Katzndogz]

Good thing fetish isn't illegal or we'd be talking about fetish brothels.

I like fetish.

What kind?

While I have never been a fetish escort, when I was in law school I picked up a little extra cash by providing fetish services. The best thing about it was no sex. No kissing, handholding, hugging, no sex. It was a breeze. It paid very well too. Men will fork over the cash for the oddest things.

 

[High_Gravity]

Good thing fetish isn't illegal or we'd be talking about fetish brothels.

I like fetish.

What kind?

While I have never been a fetish escort, when I was in law school I picked up a little extra cash by providing fetish services. The best thing about it was no sex. No kissing, handholding, hugging, no sex. It was a breeze. It paid very well too. Men will fork over the cash for the oddest things.

Big asses, some bondage etc. nothing too crazy. I used to have a foot fetish but that died out years ago for some reason.

 

[Foxfyre]

How can pimps open a legal brothel when prostitution is illegal in most of the country?

Nye County Nevada is a big place. Open one there. Steal the trade out of Vegas, Jean and Laughlin.

Thats just one place though, pimps in Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles and Milwaukee cannot open a legal brothel if they tried.

And probably most of the people in Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles, and Milwaukee like it that way. However, if we follow the intended concepts of the Constitution the people of those states and/or cities should be able to petition their governing authorities at least to put it to vote. If most of the people want it legalized, then it becomes legal. If most want it to remain illegal, then it becomes illegal until such time as advocates can make a good enough case to legalize it to change enough hearts and minds in that direction.

Freedom includes the ability to organize the sort of society we wish to have. And though I do see a woman who would voluntarily sell her body for money in that way as generally qualifying for that 'slut' label, I can't see how we can appreciate individual liberties and deny her that right. I don't think a community should be required to have it right in their faces though if they don't want that any more than a community should be required to license strip clubs or allow an adult bookstore to be built next to a school.

 

[Uncensored2008]

HG hit the issue on the head. Just as somebody earlier hit it on the head that bootleggers are still in business and have been despite prohibitiion being repealed and liquor being legally sold just about everywhere. Why? Because the bootleggers can sell it much more cheaply and make a good profit than can the legal dealers. The product won't be as safe, but those wanting it cheap don't care.

Fox,

I could walk less than a block and get crack, meth, or a hooker. I don't believe I could get moonshine within 500 miles of Los Angeles. It isn't profitable to make moonshine.

Same with prostitution. Legalize it, license it, regulate it, tax it, and the costs go up. People who can afford a safer prostitute will go that route. But the unlicensed, illegal pimps and prostitutes will still have a clientele because there are people who want it cheap despite the risks.

Nonsense.

The only thing I have to go on is the HBO series on prostitution in America; but those girls were charging $200 for a blow job. If anything, the prices would go sharply down as competition was introduced. In all business there is a risk/reward ratio. As risk goes up, so must reward. Take the risk out, prices fall.

So......my preference is that each state or each community do with it whatever they want. Those places that don't want prostitution should be able to vote it down and keep it illegal. Those who want it should legalize it, regulate it, tax it as they see fit. That's probably the best we're going to be able to do and say that we are a free society that governs itself.

Prohibition of drugs, gambling and prostitution are the root cause of the overwhelming majority of violent crime. End prohibition and violent crime drops by 90%

 

[Katzndogz]

I like fetish.

What kind?

While I have never been a fetish escort, when I was in law school I picked up a little extra cash by providing fetish services. The best thing about it was no sex. No kissing, handholding, hugging, no sex. It was a breeze. It paid very well too. Men will fork over the cash for the oddest things.

Big asses, some bondage etc. nothing too crazy. I used to have a foot fetish but that died out years ago for some reason.

What a SHAME! A good foot fetish is very popular with the ladies. There was this one Italian guy, really Italian from Italy with the smoothest accent who paid to rub, kiss and lick my feet for an hour twice a month. I should have married him. I would have let him for free, he was that good. A man with a foot fetish is worth his weight in gold.

 

[High_Gravity]

Nye County Nevada is a big place. Open one there. Steal the trade out of Vegas, Jean and Laughlin.

Thats just one place though, pimps in Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles and Milwaukee cannot open a legal brothel if they tried.

And probably most of the people in Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles, and Milwaukee like it that way. However, if we follow the intended concepts of the Constitution the people of those states and/or cities should be able to petition their governing authorities at least to put it to vote. If most of the people want it legalized, then it becomes legal. If most want it to remain illegal, then it becomes illegal until such time as advocates can make a good enough case to legalize it to change enough hearts and minds in that direction.

Freedom includes the ability to organize the sort of society we wish to have. And though I do see a woman who would voluntarily sell her body for money in that way as generally qualifying for that 'slut' label, I can't see how we can appreciate individual liberties and deny her that right. I don't think a community should be required to have it right in their faces though if they don't want that any more than a community should be required to license strip clubs or allow an adult bookstore to be built next to a school.

The thing is the citizens of Chicago, Baltimore, LA and Milwaukee still do have prostitution and brothels, just not legal ones, I agree with your idea of letting the people decide.