Small Businesses in NYC Struggling with $15 Minimum Wage

And if they can’t find employees for that price they offer more.

Or they will hire foreigners who are willing to work for nothing and live in a two bedroom house with seven other people.
They can't hire someone if the government doesn't let them in here.

It's almost as if we're burrowing our way to the larger problem. How many of those foreign laborers do we allow to come here legally? Because the obvious answer for illegally should be zero right?
 
We have 3.7 percent unemployment

And $15/hour is not the standard minimum wage...dumbass.

Ya think?

Minimum wage workers are about 3 percent of the workforce. Cutting minimum wage workers will have minimal effect

If you own a business and want to sweep your own floors and clean your own toilets....you can

Sigh...logic and common sense certainly in not in your wheelhouse. About 42% of workers in the US make $15/hour or less.

After paying for shelter, food, clothing, transportation, insurance (health care in particular), taxes and fees, $15 dollars and hour is slavery***.

The future is bleak, for when a charismatic leader organizes the vast majority of the 42%, a General Strike is in our future. The systemic problem is a product of greed coupled with a callous disregard for those who struggle to make ends meet.

Socialism did not create the chaos in Venezuela, corruption by the power elite's and political leader's fiscally irresponsible behavior and personal greed have done so.

***SAYIT's comment in the post above is an example of callous conservatism, total disregard for the problems of the working poor, and blaming them as if they are all lazy and irresponsible.

Socialism has NEVER WORKED ANYWHERE.

$15 an hour is a lot of money for entry level jobs. Minimum wage is not supposed to be for adults raising a family. It's for people entering the workforce at entry level. People are supposed to work their way into better paying jobs.

With two parent families and each of them earning $12-16 an hour that equates to $24-32 an hour. That's decent money and enough to raise a family on. A minimum wage of 15 just lowers wages for everyone. Fewer jobs and less earnings.

$24 an hour is $860 per week. Off the top of which you have to deduct 15% withholding, transportation and child care - the cost of going to work. $129 withholding, $200 per child. $30 per week per worker minimum, so that’s $471 per week left with one child. How much is rent?

These people can’t afford more than $500 per month. And that only leaves them about $350 per week for food, clothing, medical, dental, and savings. This also assumes they don’t own a car because they can’t really afford one.
 
It isn't just small businesses and it has nothing to do with the Minimum Wage.

Uh, if you read the article, you'll find out that new minimum wage does have something to do with it. Have you read any of the zillion studies that document the harmful effects of an excessive minimum wage?
Liberals don’t read studies. They go on feelings.

Apparently you must be Elizabeth Warren then.
Listen I don’t care who youre going to vote for, it’s none of my business
 
And, of course, liberals never bother to ask, "What if a given job is *not* worth $15 per hour?" Hey? What if the job is so basic and easy that it's not worth paying someone $15 per hour to do? Do liberals just think that all businesses have money trees?

All this talk about minimum wage, livable wage, wealth inequity is pretty simple to follow.

What is a worker actually worth? You as a worker are worth as much as the person your employer can pay to do the same job and same quality work as you do. That's it. It doesn't matter if you can support yourself or others, it doesn't matter how much education you have or don't have, it doesn't matter what your living needs are. This is all you are wroth.

An employer can find people to clean toilets for ten bucks an hour. What the left wants to do is force that employer to pay that worker fifteen bucks an hour even though he or she can find people to do the job for much less. If the pay you receive is not enough to sustain your lifestyle, it's not up to the employer to overpay you, or government to force him to overpay you. It's up to you to make your work more valuable to employers.
 
And $15/hour is not the standard minimum wage...dumbass.

Ya think?

Minimum wage workers are about 3 percent of the workforce. Cutting minimum wage workers will have minimal effect

If you own a business and want to sweep your own floors and clean your own toilets....you can

Sigh...logic and common sense certainly in not in your wheelhouse. About 42% of workers in the US make $15/hour or less.

After paying for shelter, food, clothing, transportation, insurance (health care in particular), taxes and fees, $15 dollars and hour is slavery***.

The future is bleak, for when a charismatic leader organizes the vast majority of the 42%, a General Strike is in our future. The systemic problem is a product of greed coupled with a callous disregard for those who struggle to make ends meet.

Socialism did not create the chaos in Venezuela, corruption by the power elite's and political leader's fiscally irresponsible behavior and personal greed have done so.

***SAYIT's comment in the post above is an example of callous conservatism, total disregard for the problems of the working poor, and blaming them as if they are all lazy and irresponsible.

Socialism has NEVER WORKED ANYWHERE.

$15 an hour is a lot of money for entry level jobs. Minimum wage is not supposed to be for adults raising a family. It's for people entering the workforce at entry level. People are supposed to work their way into better paying jobs.

With two parent families and each of them earning $12-16 an hour that equates to $24-32 an hour. That's decent money and enough to raise a family on. A minimum wage of 15 just lowers wages for everyone. Fewer jobs and less earnings.

$24 an hour is $860 per week. Off the top of which you have to deduct 15% withholding, transportation and child care - the cost of going to work. $129 withholding, $200 per child. $30 per week per worker minimum, so that’s $471 per week left with one child. How much is rent?

These people can’t afford more than $500 per month. And that only leaves them about $350 per week for food, clothing, medical, dental, and savings. This also assumes they don’t own a car because they can’t really afford one.

$350/week for food, clothing, medical, dental and savings? Who is their right mind spends that kinda money if they're on a budget?
 
It does? Then start your own company and pay people by how much you think an hour of their life is worth, and see how long you stay in business.

I got a better idea. How about you go fuck yourself instead.

You labor hating piece of shit.

I am labor pal. I go in every day, punch the clock, and drive my tractor-trailer 8 to 10 or more hours. The problem with you leftists is you only want to see things from your view. You are so myopic you don't want to do the calculations to see how your great ideas are flawed.

The real difference between you and me is I examine every angle. I put myself in everybody's shoes--not just my own. Yes, I see things from my point of view, but I also see it from the employers point of view as well. I also see it from the politicians point of view.

From the employers point of view, you can't pay people a wage you think they can live off of, what their value in life is, or what it would take for them to support their family. You have to pay a wage that allows you to make a profit, and sell your products or services to the public against your competition. If you pay people on feel good instead of pragmatism, you will be out of business in less than a year.
 
Sounds about right. Workers in the 1950s earned $30-$40 a week. They supported families on that wage with one salary. $1.25 bought you a lot
Typical BS pulled directly from your always ignorant ass. Many worked overtime or 2 jobs and most Americans lived far simpler lives.
Average family income in 1950 was $3,300 a year
Income of Families and Persons in the United States: 1950
That is $65/wk which conflicts BIGLY with your previous post claiming $30 - $40/wk.

The prob with mindless leftards like you is that you can never understand how 2+2=4.

What he says is true. Even in L.A. County, California you could make it on a buck, a buck and a quarter an hour and have an apartment and own a car in the early '60's. Guys living with their parents after turning 19 or 20 were ridiculed unless they were going to college. It's the inequality of wealth index we have now, and it's getting worse as far as I can see.

Wealth inequity has nothing to do with it. If we took every single dollar from every rich person in this country, it won't benefit you one bit. It will just make government richer.

If the wealthy paid living wages to their workers, government income supports wouldn’t be necessary. The working poor wouldn’t get all of the free stuff you hate so much.

You sit in your little shack up in Canada thinking you have all the solutions. I work in industry every day. Many of our customers use temporary employment services. Most of the workers are on welfare. They don't want a full time job because more income would eliminate them from the qualifications to get on social programs. With temp services, you can work as much or as little as desired, so you can continue getting your freebies.

What social programs do is discourage people from getting ahead in life, seeking and finding opportunities, and benefiting their family and society (taxpayers) in general. When these companies I speak of get busy, they ask their temp employees if they can work more hours? Most of them refuse because more income just gets deducted from their government stipend. For them, it's like working for free.

Outside of mental or physical disabilities, there is no reason anybody (especially younger people) to not be working or working less than 40 hours a week. Every industrial area I drive to are littered with HELP WANTED signs, and have been for the last several years, even when Ears was President.

The problem isn’t that the wage supports discourage people from working, it’s that the wages paid for the work are too low to make it worthwhile to take the job. The jobs simply don't pay enough for these people to give up their income supports.

When my husband’s trade went south after NAFTA, and all the remaining jobs paid minimum wage, there was no point in him working at all. By the time we paid a baby sitter and subway fares, we’d be losing money at $7 an hour. So he stayed home and I went back to work on Bay Street, which paid enough for all of us to live on.
 
Who cares if business fails simply Because the can only make a profit on Cheap Labor.

So would you frequent an establishment that charge 20%-25% more and doesn’t have discounts and sales because they pay their employees over $18 an hour?
we already have metrics from the restaurant sector. you are just making up drama.

I am not asking about restaurants, I am asking about businesses. If you had a choice of giving your business to a company that paid their employees over $18 an hour but charged 20%-25% more to cover the added wages would you frequent them?

I will tell you right now, that people would not, so if you don’t give a damn about them doing the right thing, then why would they give a damn about what you think? You are a hypocrite, left wing cheapskate.
 
And if they can’t find employees for that price they offer more.

Or they will hire foreigners who are willing to work for nothing and live in a two bedroom house with seven other people.
They can't hire someone if the government doesn't let them in here.

It's almost as if we're burrowing our way to the larger problem. How many of those foreign laborers do we allow to come here legally? Because the obvious answer for illegally should be zero right?

The United States government creates around a million new citizens a year. This is on top of green cards, VISA's and work permits we issue to visitors. Unless somebody can show me a civilized nation that comes close to ours, we are the most generous country in the world.

So what's the problem? The problem is that regardless how much we give, it's not enough. It's more like "what have you done for me lately?" Not a wonder why Democrats can relate to them.

We have all this foreign labor moving into our territory taking our jobs and keeping our wages down with the blessing of the DNC. If they really cared about the US worker, they wouldn't be focusing on the minimum wage. They would join us in solidarity to put Americans first, and the wages will take care of themselves like they always have.
 
It does? Then start your own company and pay people by how much you think an hour of their life is worth, and see how long you stay in business.

I got a better idea. How about you go fuck yourself instead.

You labor hating piece of shit.
Nobody hates labor you indoctrinated fucking turd. Labor builds companies, at a reasonable wage for the job. That doesn't mean you deserve 15 an hour just to show the hell up. Some jobs pay more, Why? because they require something above and beyond entry level retard to perform.
 
Typical BS pulled directly from your always ignorant ass. Many worked overtime or 2 jobs and most Americans lived far simpler lives.That is $65/wk which conflicts BIGLY with your previous post claiming $30 - $40/wk.

The prob with mindless leftards like you is that you can never understand how 2+2=4.

What he says is true. Even in L.A. County, California you could make it on a buck, a buck and a quarter an hour and have an apartment and own a car in the early '60's. Guys living with their parents after turning 19 or 20 were ridiculed unless they were going to college. It's the inequality of wealth index we have now, and it's getting worse as far as I can see.

Wealth inequity has nothing to do with it. If we took every single dollar from every rich person in this country, it won't benefit you one bit. It will just make government richer.

If the wealthy paid living wages to their workers, government income supports wouldn’t be necessary. The working poor wouldn’t get all of the free stuff you hate so much.

You sit in your little shack up in Canada thinking you have all the solutions. I work in industry every day. Many of our customers use temporary employment services. Most of the workers are on welfare. They don't want a full time job because more income would eliminate them from the qualifications to get on social programs. With temp services, you can work as much or as little as desired, so you can continue getting your freebies.

What social programs do is discourage people from getting ahead in life, seeking and finding opportunities, and benefiting their family and society (taxpayers) in general. When these companies I speak of get busy, they ask their temp employees if they can work more hours? Most of them refuse because more income just gets deducted from their government stipend. For them, it's like working for free.

Outside of mental or physical disabilities, there is no reason anybody (especially younger people) to not be working or working less than 40 hours a week. Every industrial area I drive to are littered with HELP WANTED signs, and have been for the last several years, even when Ears was President.

The problem isn’t that the wage supports discourage people from working, it’s that the wages paid for the work are too low to make it worthwhile to take the job. The jobs simply don't pay enough for these people to give up their income supports.

When my husband’s trade went south after NAFTA, and all the remaining jobs paid minimum wage, there was no point in him working at all. By the time we paid a baby sitter and subway fares, we’d be losing money at $7 an hour. So he stayed home and I went back to work on Bay Street, which paid enough for all of us to live on.

We always had low paying labor in this country. When I got out of school, I worked minimum wage jobs, in fact several of them. On a few occasions, I worked under the minimum wage when I delivered pizzas for mostly tips, and drove a catering truck that was strictly commission.

We had social programs, but it was only a little help, and not a lifestyle. Even if you could make it a lifestyle, you had too much pride to do it. So what did we do back then? We worked more hours, that's what we did. And if your company didn't offer overtime, you got two jobs which is something I usually had until I became a landlord in my 30's.

Other people took in roommates until they got married and was able to provide two incomes into their household.

As Ronald Reagan once said, government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem.

I have no empathy for people today in this economy who work minimum wage. The two most likely reasons for working those jobs for any real length of time as an adult is laziness and government benefits, or not willing to sacrifice recreational narcotics. But the solution to laziness and drugs is not forcing employers to pay you more.
 
Lets raise the minimum wage to $1,500 an hour maybe that will work.

Why do you waste your time posting such a stupid comment? Are you that desperate for attention?

To mock your side, I thought that was obvious. Mission accomplished!

Mocking requires thought, you don't qualify.

mens-premium-tee-showing-trump-voters-as-ostrich-and-man-with-heads-in-sand.jpg

Give us a real number will you? Exactly how much exactly should people minimumly earn? Is $15 an hour the line? Would you be satisfied with that and no more?
it is a simple cost of living adjustment. besides, social services cost the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour.
This is the simpleton bullshit you get out of Democrats. It’s a simple cost adjustment, at your expense. Takes nothing further into consideration to arrive at this stupid ass conclusion but you did throw in how much welfare costs which nobody but the government is responsible for that ridiculous cost.
 
Small Businesses Struggle With $15 Minimum Wage Hike in NY: 'They're Shutting Down'

EXCERPT: According to a report published Monday by the Wall Street Journal, many business leaders and owners in the Big Apple have said that they are having to cut hours, raise prices, and reduce staff in their businesses due to the rising labor costs that they say come from the recent city law bumping up the minimum wage. . . .

The president of the Queens Chamber of Commerce, Thomas Grech, told the Wall Street Journal that he has seen an increased number of small businesses closing in the last six to nine months. He believes the rising closures are due to the minimum wage legislation.

“They’re cutting their staff. They’re cutting their hours. They’re shutting down,” Grech said. “It’s not just the rent.”
Jesus dude...your own article refutes your bullshit.'

The only two businesses cited admit they have not even had to cut anyone and that all their employees are doing 40 hour weeks

Jesus what a lame thread
Ever noticed the self checkouts everywhere and the lack of cashiers?

I wonder what caused that?

Yes, in Arizona there are a ton of self-checkouts.
 
Why do you waste your time posting such a stupid comment? Are you that desperate for attention?

To mock your side, I thought that was obvious. Mission accomplished!

Mocking requires thought, you don't qualify.

mens-premium-tee-showing-trump-voters-as-ostrich-and-man-with-heads-in-sand.jpg

Give us a real number will you? Exactly how much exactly should people minimumly earn? Is $15 an hour the line? Would you be satisfied with that and no more?
it is a simple cost of living adjustment. besides, social services cost the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour.
This is the simpleton bullshit you get out of Democrats. It’s a simple cost adjustment, at your expense. Takes nothing further into consideration to arrive at this stupid ass conclusion but you did throw in how much welfare costs which nobody but the government is responsible for that ridiculous cost.


To that statement I quote Rush Limbaugh.

"If you pay people not to work, don't be too surprised when they don't!
Rush Limbaugh
 
Small Businesses Struggle With $15 Minimum Wage Hike in NY: 'They're Shutting Down'

EXCERPT: According to a report published Monday by the Wall Street Journal, many business leaders and owners in the Big Apple have said that they are having to cut hours, raise prices, and reduce staff in their businesses due to the rising labor costs that they say come from the recent city law bumping up the minimum wage. . . .

The president of the Queens Chamber of Commerce, Thomas Grech, told the Wall Street Journal that he has seen an increased number of small businesses closing in the last six to nine months. He believes the rising closures are due to the minimum wage legislation.

“They’re cutting their staff. They’re cutting their hours. They’re shutting down,” Grech said. “It’s not just the rent.”
Jesus dude...your own article refutes your bullshit.'

The only two businesses cited admit they have not even had to cut anyone and that all their employees are doing 40 hour weeks

Jesus what a lame thread
Ever noticed the self checkouts everywhere and the lack of cashiers?

I wonder what caused that?

Yes, in Arizona there are a ton of self-checkouts.
Of course there are. Hell I installed a thousand of them. Why? Because a company can’t keep paying people ten bucks an hour plus obiecare costs and taxes to have people swipe shit across a scanner. But the brilliant dems want to raise that cost to 15 an hour. And of course then sit there with a stupefied confused look on their face as the swipe their own purchases through a robot.
 
Small Businesses Struggle With $15 Minimum Wage Hike in NY: 'They're Shutting Down'

EXCERPT: According to a report published Monday by the Wall Street Journal, many business leaders and owners in the Big Apple have said that they are having to cut hours, raise prices, and reduce staff in their businesses due to the rising labor costs that they say come from the recent city law bumping up the minimum wage. . . .

The president of the Queens Chamber of Commerce, Thomas Grech, told the Wall Street Journal that he has seen an increased number of small businesses closing in the last six to nine months. He believes the rising closures are due to the minimum wage legislation.

“They’re cutting their staff. They’re cutting their hours. They’re shutting down,” Grech said. “It’s not just the rent.”
Jesus dude...your own article refutes your bullshit.'

The only two businesses cited admit they have not even had to cut anyone and that all their employees are doing 40 hour weeks

Jesus what a lame thread
Ever noticed the self checkouts everywhere and the lack of cashiers?

I wonder what caused that?

Yes, in Arizona there are a ton of self-checkouts.

I refuse to use self checkouts. All you are doing is taking jobs away from other people. The stores deliberately have longer lines with cashiers to pressure you to use the self checkout. What they want to do is eliminate cashier checkouts altogether, just like gas stations did with self serve pumps.
 
NYC doesn't like chain stores and blocks them whenever and however possible.

When the last of the small businesses close Noo Yawkaws will have to shop in Joisey.

Then the tolls on the bridges will skyrocket 'cause sales tax revenue will be gone.

Sometimes electing Democrats is just a way of having something to laugh at. Which is why folks in Joisey often donate lavishly to Democrat mayoral campaigns in Da Big Rotten Apple.
 

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