So 4 Times the Government Had the Opportunity to Stop the Parkland Shooter

[Synthaholic]

Three FBI tips ignored and a deputy who froze.
And yet the left's response is we need to listen to the Tide Pod eating, bathroom confused generation to establish new firearm policy to disarm law abiding citizens so only the government which failed can have weapons. The same government the left is accusing of going around shooting innocent people just because of their skin color.

These truly are The Insane Years.

Go change your diaper.

Rick Scott deserves the most blame.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Anyone else catch the weirdness here of the gun nuts now arguing AGAINST armed guards in school?

Anyone notice that New Porker here is just as stupid as always with his silly straw men?

You're the one who started the thread trashing the armed guard. Missouri Mike said we don't need government in this business.

BTW, when are you going to tell us what laws the authorities, including the FBI, could have used to stop this shooting?

Thought crimes......Or Tide Pods per the OP...

They are now saying, or at least pretending, that they support gun confiscation without due process.

 

[Moonglow]

Anyone else catch the weirdness here of the gun nuts now arguing AGAINST armed guards in school?

Anyone notice that New Porker here is just as stupid as always with his silly straw men?

You're the one who started the thread trashing the armed guard. Missouri Mike said we don't need government in this business.

BTW, when are you going to tell us what laws the authorities, including the FBI, could have used to stop this shooting?

Thought crimes......Or Tide Pods per the OP...

They are now saying, or at least pretending, that they support gun confiscation without due process.

These fuckers are so used to jumping up and down from their masters command they don't know what to think when not scripted...

 

[Synthaholic]

Why not? The gun free zone signs aren't working.

That's because the design of the signs is flawed....

Currently they read:
"This is a gun free zone, guns are not permitted on these premises"

When actually they should read:
"This is a gun free zone, if you attempt to bring a gun on these premises YOU WILL BE SHOT!"

Guns are permitted in a gun free zone, dumbass.

So the signs are just a suggestion? Alright then. Glad we got that cleared up.

No, the signs tell you that unless you are explicitly authorized to have a gun on the premises, you can't.

He is right, they are a suggestion.

In fact, in Tennessee, they recently implemented a law that if you have a 'No Guns Allowed' sign on your business, and someone is injured or killed in a shooting, the business is liable for all cost to the infringed party.

Personally, I disregard those signs

-Geaux

Clearly an unconstitutional law.

 

[Weatherman2020]

While not equal at least you have some footing. It’s better than hiding under a desk with nothing.

What happens to the gun wielding teacher when the SWAT team shows up? They see somebody waiving a handgun around, do they ask questions first?

Yes, they do.
A. Everyone trained in gun handling knows to drop their weapon when the cops show up.
B. Despite leftist bullshit propaganda, police do not just start shooting everyone without warning.

 

[Moonglow]

While not equal at least you have some footing. It’s better than hiding under a desk with nothing.

What happens to the gun wielding teacher when the SWAT team shows up? They see somebody waiving a handgun around, do they ask questions first?

Yes, they do.
A. Everyone trained in gun handling knows to drop their weapon when the cops show up.
B. Despite leftist bullshit propaganda, police do not just start shooting everyone without warning.

They never taught us to drop our weapon in the Army when cops were around...

 

[NYcarbineer]

While not equal at least you have some footing. It’s better than hiding under a desk with nothing.

What happens to the gun wielding teacher when the SWAT team shows up? They see somebody waiving a handgun around, do they ask questions first?

Yes, they do.
A. Everyone trained in gun handling knows to drop their weapon when the cops show up.
B. Despite leftist bullshit propaganda, police do not just start shooting everyone without warning.

Do we get to raise your taxes to pay for all this hiring, training, and employment of this massive school guard force?

Or is that someone else's obligation?

 

[NYcarbineer]

While not equal at least you have some footing. It’s better than hiding under a desk with nothing.

What happens to the gun wielding teacher when the SWAT team shows up? They see somebody waiving a handgun around, do they ask questions first?

Yes, they do.
A. Everyone trained in gun handling knows to drop their weapon when the cops show up.
B. Despite leftist bullshit propaganda, police do not just start shooting everyone without warning.

They never taught us to drop our weapon in the Army when cops were around...

This is how you do it: (skip to 1:30)

 

[radical right]

A. Everyone trained in gun handling knows to drop their weapon when the cops show up.

Reminds me of a JV basketball game my friend was in. They were used to playing street ball, and when the other team was taking out the ball, he yelled "check". Instinctively the guy passed him the ball.
An armed gunman need only yell into the classroom. "Police" throw out your weapon.

 

[Weatherman2020]

While not equal at least you have some footing. It’s better than hiding under a desk with nothing.

What happens to the gun wielding teacher when the SWAT team shows up? They see somebody waiving a handgun around, do they ask questions first?

Yes, they do.
A. Everyone trained in gun handling knows to drop their weapon when the cops show up.
B. Despite leftist bullshit propaganda, police do not just start shooting everyone without warning.

Do we get to raise your taxes to pay for all this hiring, training, and employment of this massive school guard force?

Or is that someone else's obligation?

Yes, since most murderers have leftist political views, taxes on all registered Democrats will be tripled.

 

[Weatherman2020]

A. Everyone trained in gun handling knows to drop their weapon when the cops show up.

Reminds me of a JV basketball game my friend was in. They were used to playing street ball, and when the other team was taking out the ball, he yelled "check". Instinctively the guy passed him the ball.
An armed gunman need only yell into the classroom. "Police" throw out your weapon.

Wrong again. Every teacher is trained in active shooter scenarios. Which includes asking the cop to show ID in such cases as behind locked doors. And every cop knows they will be asked before that door is unlocked.

 

[radical right]

Do we get to raise your taxes to pay for all this hiring, training, and employment of this massive school guard force?

Or is that someone else's obligation?

Yes, since most murderers have leftist political views, taxes on all registered Democrats will be tripled.

So that's a NO in paying for it?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Do we get to raise your taxes to pay for all this hiring, training, and employment of this massive school guard force?

Or is that someone else's obligation?

Yes, since most murderers have leftist political views, taxes on all registered Democrats will be tripled.

So that's a NO in paying for it?

If we had that $3B Obama illegally shipped to terrorist Iran on pallets in the dead of the night it would be paid for.

 

[radical right]

An armed gunman need only yell into the classroom. "Police" throw out your weapon.

Wrong again. Every teacher is trained in active shooter scenarios. Which includes asking the cop to show ID in such cases as behind locked doors. And every cop knows they will be asked before that door is unlocked.

Are you kidding me. A locked door means nothing against a military rifle. As in the line from the movie Johnny Dangerously, the bad guy Johnny Vermin had an 88 magnum handgun made up for him special, "It will shoot through schools"

 

[Weatherman2020]

An armed gunman need only yell into the classroom. "Police" throw out your weapon.

Wrong again. Every teacher is trained in active shooter scenarios. Which includes asking the cop to show ID in such cases as behind locked doors. And every cop knows they will be asked before that door is unlocked.

Are you kidding me. A loicked door means nothing against a military rifle. As in the line from the movie Johnny Dangerously, the bad guy Johnny Vermin had an 88 magnum handgun made up for him special, "It will shoot through schools"

You're dumber than a brick about everything, aren't you.

 

[radical right]

So that's a NO in paying for it?

If we had that $3B Obama illegally shipped to terrorist Iran on pallets in the dead of the night it would be paid for.

You do know that money belonged to Iran, and the Tribunal already gave a preliminary ruling the USA had to return it.

 

[radical right]

Wrong again. Every teacher is trained in active shooter scenarios. Which includes asking the cop to show ID in such cases as behind locked doors. And every cop knows they will be asked before that door is unlocked.

Asking for, and showing ID sounds good, but there's no time in a shooting situation. A teacher hears shots going off, and somebody yells for him to open the door. I bet when the SWAT team kicks the door open, the teacher starts blasting at them like rambo.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Can anyone help the OP? He can't seem to back up his claim that the shooter could have been stopped, under the law, from doing the crime.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Assault weapons should be banned....there is no constitutional right to own them, this has already been settled by a Supreme Court decision. The 2nd amendment is still in tact.

the police officer outside did not want to die, he didn't stand a prayer of living with a mere handgun against an AR15....same with teachers if they were carrying a gun.....

There is no match up that could come out in their favor against someone with an AR15 or AK47 etc....

Banning assault weapons will not stop these crazies, but it will limit the number of innocent children and adults they kill, and will give an officer of the law, a fighting chance when confronting them imo.

He could have done the same amount of damage with pistols. Or a machete for that matter. When your one armed guy pusses out you're kinda screwed. He didn't do his job. Period. No new laws are going to make him braver.

How many times have police used the excuse, that they killed the unarmed man because they thought he was pulling a gun and his own life was in danger?

And the argument for the shooting and killing was that they may be paid peace officers, but they are not required to give up their own lives....

I think it's a made up movie script where there is always a hero, that is getting in the way of your common sense on this one....

That police officer, was as good as dead if he entered that building with his gun against the kid's AR15....

I would have hoped for some Rambo type action with some imaginary Rambo type arsenal for him to save the kids,

but in reality and at the same time... I would be grateful he did not go on this suicide mission if I were his wife, or daughter....

it's a hard call for that cop, all the way around

Still waiting for you to tell us what an Assault weapon is? Please, don't hesitate to show US your expertise...

 

[Reasonable]

Of course this worthless president does the bidding for the NRA. Advocating arming teachers is a reprehensible idea on so many levels.