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[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION]Most gun deaths are sucidies, domestic arguments and accidents.
A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a member of the household than a bad guy.
Would you like me to point out that Kellerman himself now claims 2.7 times?
How many fucking times must your lies be shown before you stop repeating them?
Did you Wiki-vandalize that entry.
Kellerman has never backed down from his figures, and they are solid.
Meanwhile, Kleck's methodology has been proven to be up there with UFO abductions.
how do you know it was not consensual?
how can you "consent" when you are property, have no legal rights, can be legally whipped, legally sold, and have no recourse to law?
By saying "YES".....
You can buy a gun at gun shows with little to no checks.
That is just ridiculous and stupid. If you know so little that you would seriously make such a statement, there's no point reading anything you've written.
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No sir, I did not. I am not a registered contributor to wikipedea and have never been. I have posted that paragraph in response to your quoting the debunked study at least 3 times in the last 6 months.
Suppose you prove me wrong. I cited a reference. If you dispute it, provide your own information. Until you do, we will just have to assume that Kellerman did in fact, back off the 43 times claim.
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so far you have named Jefferson as a " slave rapist"
You used the plural " slave rapists".
Have any more?
Ben Franklin?
Washington?
Adams?
money where mouth is time
Do you actually concede that Jefferson did Rape his Slave?
you used the plural form
put up or shut up asshole
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If, in fact he forced himself on her which is impossible to prove, he wasn't charged with a crime any more that you are charged with a crime when you type out your drivel here. Your keyboard is your property, simple as that.
In 2013, a white man forcing himself on a 15 year old black girl is rape. In the 1770's, it was not.
The morality is immaterial. We are a nation of laws that hopes to be moral, but we are not a nation of morals.
No, it was ALWAYS wrong.
It just wasn't illegal.
Slavery was always wrong. Rape was always wrong. Burning witches was always wrong.
That people used your invisible sky man to justify it from time to time did not make it right.
Bayoubill -
Yes, shooting people is illegal. And yet (in many states) there are no background checks, no 'drivers licenses' for guns, no compulsory safety training, and no clear system of disarming offenders.
Cars have been made safer by the mandatory use of safety belts, tail lights and so forth. Unsafe cars have been taken off the streets, and unsafe drivers frequently banned from dirivng.
All most people want of gun owners is a similar sense of respect and social responsibility.
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I don't dispute that rape, slavery and burning witches is and was wrong, I only stated it wasn't illegal. Now we find out that it didn't even happen. Another of your oft repeated claims debunked. You will, however, continue to bring up Jefferson's raping of a slave and Kellerman's self debunked 43 times number, hoping that an oft repeated lie will eventually be accepted as fact.
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Would it be a bad time to point out that Mexico has become MUCH safer after those gun crackdown laws were passed. Wait erm um .
Just take my word for that. No need to dabble in anything like facts and stuff .
Mexico would have been better off if Arizona didn't have such liberal gun laws that anyone can drive up to Arizona and buy a shitload of them.
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Would it be a bad time to point out that Mexico has become MUCH safer after those gun crackdown laws were passed. Wait erm um .
Just take my word for that. No need to dabble in anything like facts and stuff .
Mexico would have been better off if Arizona didn't have such liberal gun laws that anyone can drive up to Arizona and buy a shitload of them.
WITH the blessings of the DOJ, of course.
Mexico would have been better off if Arizona didn't have such liberal gun laws that anyone can drive up to Arizona and buy a shitload of them.
WITH the blessings of the DOJ, of course.
You mean as in The DEA and ATF tried to get local officials to stop it, and they wouldn't?
Hey, maybe you can catch the Roswell Aliens who brought down the world Trade Center to hide Obama's real birth certificate. Might as well do all your Loon Shopping at one stop.
Do you actually concede that Jefferson did Rape his Slave?
you used the plural form
put up or shut up asshole
Why should I have to. The fact is, you can tell that slave rape was common just by the fact black people have about 30 different skin tones.
WITH the blessings of the DOJ, of course.
You mean as in The DEA and ATF tried to get local officials to stop it, and they wouldn't?
Hey, maybe you can catch the Roswell Aliens who brought down the world Trade Center to hide Obama's real birth certificate. Might as well do all your Loon Shopping at one stop.
Facts are not your friend, In the failed Fast and Furious the ATF DEA and other agencies ORDERED FFL to sell firearms to straw buyers that broke the law. The FFL would NOT have sold them with out being ordered to by the ATF.
Mexico would have been better off if Arizona didn't have such liberal gun laws that anyone can drive up to Arizona and buy a shitload of them.
WITH the blessings of the DOJ, of course.
You mean as in The DEA and ATF tried to get local officials to stop it, and they wouldn't?
Hey, maybe you can catch the Roswell Aliens who brought down the world Trade Center to hide Obama's real birth certificate. Might as well do all your Loon Shopping at one stop.
you used the plural form
put up or shut up asshole
Why should I have to. The fact is, you can tell that slave rape was common just by the fact black people have about 30 different skin tones.
you broached the subject
name names
WITH the blessings of the DOJ, of course.
You mean as in The DEA and ATF tried to get local officials to stop it, and they wouldn't?
Hey, maybe you can catch the Roswell Aliens who brought down the world Trade Center to hide Obama's real birth certificate. Might as well do all your Loon Shopping at one stop.
No. I mean as in ATF encouraged it. Are you at all familiar with Fast and Furious?
You mean as in The DEA and ATF tried to get local officials to stop it, and they wouldn't?
Hey, maybe you can catch the Roswell Aliens who brought down the world Trade Center to hide Obama's real birth certificate. Might as well do all your Loon Shopping at one stop.
Facts are not your friend, In the failed Fast and Furious the ATF DEA and other agencies ORDERED FFL to sell firearms to straw buyers that broke the law. The FFL would NOT have sold them with out being ordered to by the ATF.
No, they would have went down the block to another FFL that would have, and that's the problem.
The fed's mistake was trying to track THESE Guns, like trying to keep track of one turd floating down a sewer.
You mean as in The DEA and ATF tried to get local officials to stop it, and they wouldn't?
Hey, maybe you can catch the Roswell Aliens who brought down the world Trade Center to hide Obama's real birth certificate. Might as well do all your Loon Shopping at one stop.
No. I mean as in ATF encouraged it. Are you at all familiar with Fast and Furious?
You mean the program started by Bush?
Joe! How many times must you be proven wrong before you stop tossing out the same lies?
