So Truman was a KKK member

[Rustic]

Socialists, communists and Nazis all part of socialism and one part or another, nasty people altogether

Yer not the brightest bulb in the light tower, are ya?

On paper socialism, communism and Nazism may look different, formed as a government in real time they all act like the same.

 

[Pogo]

Socialists, communists and Nazis all part of socialism and one part or another, nasty people altogether

Yer not the brightest bulb in the light tower, are ya?

On paper socialism, communism and Nazism may look different, formed as a government in real time they all act like the same.

Clearly you're too stupid to engage here.

Let's just stipulate for the moment that they are all the same. I've just posted bundles of evidence of the KKK directly OPPOSING communism. You're saying communism and socialism are the same thing, they're clearly against communism, and you have them described as "socialists". The DIRECT OPPOSITE of what they stand for.

Once again ---- not the brightest bulb in the light tower are ya?

Don't come in here with bullshit posts like this. You'll get torn apart.

 

[Rustic]

Socialists, communists and Nazis all part of socialism and one part or another, nasty people altogether

Yer not the brightest bulb in the light tower, are ya?

On paper socialism, communism and Nazism may look different, formed as a government in real time they all act like the same.

Clearly you're too stupid to engage here.

Let's just stipulate for the moment that they are all the same. I've just posted bundles of evidence of the KKK directly OPPOSING communism. You're saying communism and socialism are the same thing, they're clearly against communism, and you have them described as "socialists". The DIRECT OPPOSITE of what they stand for.

Once again ---- not the brightest bulb in the light tower are ya?

Don't come in here with bullshit posts like this. You'll get torn apart.

All three of those governments treat people the same if people disagree with said governments(socialism, communism and Nazism)

So, on paper they may look dissimilar, but as governments in real time, they are the same.

 

[Pogo]

 

[Rustic]

No doubt, socialism is always the start of all kinds of nasty.

 

[nuhuh]

Socialists, communists and Nazis all part of socialism and one form or another, nasty people altogether

You people in your best ignorant fashion think you've latched on to something that gives you the right to attach a label to the left. The truth is that conservatives are much more like fascist regimes than the liberals, who are naturally receptive to other ideas. It is the conservatives who want to tell you what you can and can't do in the bedroom, who you can marry, that Christianity should be the state religion dictating governmental policy, our legal system, the science we teach in schools, and what we put into books. Just considering the lack of tolerance of other people and ideas, the suppression of votes, the hostility to science, the move to fascism almost looks easy for conservatives.

Dr Lawrence Britt wrote about the defining characteristics of fascism and while debatable it certainly defines conservatives much more than Liberals.

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
   Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
   
   
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
   Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
   
   
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
   The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
   
   
4. Supremacy of the Military
   Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
   
   
5. Rampant Sexism
   The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
   
   
6. Controlled Mass Media
   Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
   
   
7. Obsession with National Security
   Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
   
   
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
   Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
   
   
9. Corporate Power is Protected
   The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
   
   
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
    
    
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
    
    
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
    
    
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
    
    
14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

 

[Rustic]

Socialists, communists and Nazis all part of socialism and one form or another, nasty people altogether

You people in your best ignorant fashion think you've latched on to something that gives you the right to attach a label to the left. The truth is that conservatives are much more like fascist regimes than the liberals, who are naturally receptive to other ideas. It is the conservatives who want to tell you what you can and can't do in the bedroom, who you can marry, that Christianity should be the state religion dictating governmental policy, our legal system, the science we teach in schools, and what we put into books. Just considering the lack of tolerance of other people and ideas, the suppression of votes, the hostility to science, the move to fascism almost looks easy for conservatives.

Dr Lawrence Britt wrote about the defining characteristics of fascism and while debatable it certainly defines conservatives much more than Liberals.

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
   Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
   
   
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
   Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
   
   
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
   The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
   
   
4. Supremacy of the Military
   Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
   
   
5. Rampant Sexism
   The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
   
   
6. Controlled Mass Media
   Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
   
   
7. Obsession with National Security
   Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
   
   
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
   Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
   
   
9. Corporate Power is Protected
   The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
   
   
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
    
    
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
    
    
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
    
    
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
    
    
14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

Herein lies the problem, trusting the government.

Never trust the government...

 

[Rustic]

Socialism always turns into to fascism, history has of all kinds of dictators to prove so.

 

[JakeStarkey]

the far right reactionaries, neo-cons, nativists, and social cons are much closer to the fascists than the great middle and left of America.

That is why they don't want America to watch on TV as their candidates out themselves.

 

[Pogo]

All three of those governments treat people the same if people disagree with said governments(socialism, communism and Nazism)

Completely bullshit Triple Blanket Generalization.

What kind of government some nation has is not determined by "how it treats dissent". That's patently absurd.

Exactly how dim do you have to be to come out with posts like this?

"Oh look -- lightning struck this guy and the result was death, and cancer got into that guy and the result was death. Therefore lightning and cancer are the same thing."

Dumb shit....

 

[Rustic]

the far right reactionaries, neo-cons, nativists, and social cons are much closer to the fascists than the great middle and left of America.

That is why they don't want America to watch on TV as their candidates out themselves.

That is why both sides have to stand stand their ground. The left recently has been much better at standing their ground, compromise is a bad word it weakens the country...

 

[Pogo]

Socialists, communists and Nazis all part of socialism and one part or another, nasty people altogether

Yer not the brightest bulb in the light tower, are ya?

On paper socialism, communism and Nazism may look different, formed as a government in real time they all act like the same.

Clearly you're too stupid to engage here.

Let's just stipulate for the moment that they are all the same. I've just posted bundles of evidence of the KKK directly OPPOSING communism. You're saying communism and socialism are the same thing, they're clearly against communism, and you have them described as "socialists". The DIRECT OPPOSITE of what they stand for.

Once again ---- not the brightest bulb in the light tower are ya?

Don't come in here with bullshit posts like this. You'll get torn apart.

All three of those governments treat people the same if people disagree with said governments(socialism, communism and Nazism)

So, on paper they may look dissimilar, but as governments in real time, they are the same.

Isn't that interesting. That's what the Klan says too:

 

[Rustic]

All three of those governments treat people the same if people disagree with said governments(socialism, communism and Nazism)

Completely bullshit Triple Blanket Generalization.

What kind of government some nation has is not determined by "how it treats dissent". That's patently absurd.

Exactly how dim do you have to be to come out with posts like this?

"Oh look -- lightning struck this guy and the result was death, and cancer got into that guy and the result was death. Therefore lightning and cancer are the same thing."

Dumb shit....

I hurt your feelings, sorry.
But you can't believe the government is the fix all, in fact most likely it will do the opposite.

There is no hope on the planet or in this world, Jesus Christ is the only way.

 

[Rustic]

Socialists, communists and Nazis all part of socialism and one part or another, nasty people altogether

Yer not the brightest bulb in the light tower, are ya?

On paper socialism, communism and Nazism may look different, formed as a government in real time they all act like the same.

Clearly you're too stupid to engage here.

Let's just stipulate for the moment that they are all the same. I've just posted bundles of evidence of the KKK directly OPPOSING communism. You're saying communism and socialism are the same thing, they're clearly against communism, and you have them described as "socialists". The DIRECT OPPOSITE of what they stand for.

Once again ---- not the brightest bulb in the light tower are ya?

Don't come in here with bullshit posts like this. You'll get torn apart.

All three of those governments treat people the same if people disagree with said governments(socialism, communism and Nazism)

So, on paper they may look dissimilar, but as governments in real time, they are the same.

Isn't that interesting. That's what the Klan says too:

Unbeknownst to either socialism or Nazism, they are two sides of the same coin, plainly evident on the way that form a governments ultimately behaves.
The last ones to see what those governments do, happen to be the fools who are following those governments.
Then it's always too late...

 

[Pogo]

All three of those governments treat people the same if people disagree with said governments(socialism, communism and Nazism)

Completely bullshit Triple Blanket Generalization.

What kind of government some nation has is not determined by "how it treats dissent". That's patently absurd.

Exactly how dim do you have to be to come out with posts like this?

"Oh look -- lightning struck this guy and the result was death, and cancer got into that guy and the result was death. Therefore lightning and cancer are the same thing."

Dumb shit....

I hurt your feelings, sorry.
But you can't believe the government is the fix all, in fact most likely it will do the opposite.

There is no hope on the planet or in this world, Jesus Christ is the only way.

I haven't brought up jack shit about "government fixes" or "Jesus Christ". Neither one. Nor do they even have anything to do with each other.

I accept your double deflection as concession. Would have been easier to just say you were wrong but I can see that's not gonna happen.

 

[Rustic]

All three of those governments treat people the same if people disagree with said governments(socialism, communism and Nazism)

Completely bullshit Triple Blanket Generalization.

What kind of government some nation has is not determined by "how it treats dissent". That's patently absurd.

Exactly how dim do you have to be to come out with posts like this?

"Oh look -- lightning struck this guy and the result was death, and cancer got into that guy and the result was death. Therefore lightning and cancer are the same thing."

Dumb shit....

I hurt your feelings, sorry.
But you can't believe the government is the fix all, in fact most likely it will do the opposite.

There is no hope on the planet or in this world, Jesus Christ is the only way.

I haven't brought up jack shit about "government fixes" or "Jesus Christ". Neither one. Nor do they even have anything to do with each other.

I accept your double deflection as concession. Would have been easier to just say you were wrong but I can see that's not gonna happen.

Socialism has many dictators in history to prove its ultimate worth.
I am sorry, you feel government is a fix all, least of all a socialist one.

History has proven that socialism is definitely a pseudo government, one that has never worked in history long term and never will.

The deflection is all yours, there is no proof In history that socialist government has or can ever work.

Nazi Germany tried among many others to make socialism work they all turned into fascism.

 

[Timmy]

All the winner countries are socialist .

The US has been socialist for at least 100 years. What's your problem?

 

[Rustic]

All the winner countries are socialist .

The US has been socialist for at least 100 years. What's your problem?

This is true, it has been all downhill for the last hundred years.

Clearly We are doing the absurd, we are paying in debt with more debt.

 

[Pogo]

All three of those governments treat people the same if people disagree with said governments(socialism, communism and Nazism)

Completely bullshit Triple Blanket Generalization.

What kind of government some nation has is not determined by "how it treats dissent". That's patently absurd.

Exactly how dim do you have to be to come out with posts like this?

"Oh look -- lightning struck this guy and the result was death, and cancer got into that guy and the result was death. Therefore lightning and cancer are the same thing."

Dumb shit....

I hurt your feelings, sorry.
But you can't believe the government is the fix all, in fact most likely it will do the opposite.

There is no hope on the planet or in this world, Jesus Christ is the only way.

I haven't brought up jack shit about "government fixes" or "Jesus Christ". Neither one. Nor do they even have anything to do with each other.

I accept your double deflection as concession. Would have been easier to just say you were wrong but I can see that's not gonna happen.

Socialism has many dictators in history to prove its ultimate worth.
I am sorry, you feel government is a fix all, least of all a socialist one.

History has proven that socialism is definitely a pseudo government, one that has never worked in history long term and never will.

The deflection is all yours, there is no proof In history that socialist government has or can ever work.

Nazi Germany tried among many others to make socialism work they all turned into fascism.

HEY DUMBASS.

Where did I ever bring up anything whatsoever about "government fixes"?

Quote?

Link?

Anything?

 

[Timmy]

All the winner countries are socialist .

The US has been socialist for at least 100 years. What's your problem?

This is true, it has been all downhill for the last hundred years.

Clearly We are doing the absurd, we are paying in debt with more debt.

You long for the good old days of ww1?!

How have we gone downhill ? What's with you sour puss right wingers hating everything about America . Oh the drama!!! Lighten up!