So what IS the best way to reduce or prevent mass shootings?

[candycorn]

I see where you went wrong…well first, you are a lefty…but as to the post…..I gave you the wrong link…..here is the correct link with highlights on all the shootings…

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• 16 January 1998 to 15 June 2009 – Melbourne gangland killings – A series of 35 murders of crime figures and their associates that began with the slaying of Alphonse Gangitano in his home, most likely by Jason Moran, the latest victim being Des Moran who was murdered in Ascot Vale on 15 June 2009.

• 25 January 1996 – Hillcrest murders – Peter May shot and killed his three children, his estranged wife and her parents in the Brisbane suburb of Hillcrest before killing himself.[54]

• 16 August 1998 – Victorian police officers Gary Silk and Rodney Miller were shot dead in an ambush by Bendali Debs and Jason Joseph Roberts in the Moorabbin Police murders.

• 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.

• 13 March 2000 – Millewa State Forest Murders – Barbara and Stephen Brooks and Stacie Willoughby were found dead, all three having been shot execution style and left in the forest.[60][61]

• 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
• • 14 October 2002 – Dr. Margret Tobin, the South Australian head of Mental Health Services, was shot dead by Jean Eric Gassy as she walked out of a lift in her office building.
  • 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
  • 25 October 2003 – Greenacre double murder – A man and a woman are shot dead in a house in the suburb of Greenacre, Sydney which was the result of a feud between two Middle Eastern crime families, 24-year-old Ziad Abdulrazak was shot 10 times in the chest and head and 22-year-old Mervat Hamka was shot twice in the neck while she slept in her bedroom, up to 100 shots were fired into the house from four men who were later arrested and convicted of the murders.
  • 26 July 2004 – Security guard Karen Brown shot dead armed robber William Aquilina in a Sydney carpark after he violently bashed her and stole the hotel's takings. Brown was charged with murder but acquitted on the grounds of self-defence.[66][67]

• 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]

• 10 April 2010 – Rajesh Osborne shot and killed his three children, 12 year-old Asia, 10-year-old Jarius and 7-year-old Grace before killing himself in Roxburgh, Victoria.[citation needed]

• 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
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• 29 January 2012 – Giovanni Focarelli, son of Comancheros gang member Vincenzo Focarelli, was shot dead whilst Vincenzo survived the fourth attempt on his life.[79]

• 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]

• 23 May 2012 – Christopher 'Badness' Binse, a career criminal well known to police, was arrested after a 44-hour siege at an East Keilor home in Melbourne's north west. During the siege, Binse fired several shots at police and refused to co-operate with negotiators; eventually tear gas had to be used to force him out of the house, at which point he refused to put down his weapon and was then sprayed with a volley of non-lethal bullets.[citation needed]

• 15 December 2012 – Aaron Carlino murdered drug dealer Stephen Cookson in his East Perth home by shooting him twice in the head and then he cut up and dismembered his body. He buried his arms legs and torso in the backyard of his house and he wrapped his head in a plastic bag and dumped it on Rottnest Island. The head of Cookson was later found washed up on Rottnest Island by an 11-year-old girl. Carlino was convicted of the murder and was sentenced to life in prison.[citation needed]
• 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
• 29 July 2013 – Two bikie gang associates, Vasko Boskovski and Bassil Hijazi were shot dead in two separate shooting incidents minutes apart in South West Sydney. The previous week Bassil Hijazi had survived a previous attempt against his life after he was shot inside his car.[citation needed]

• 9 September 2014 – Lockhart massacre – Geoff Hunt shot and killed his wife, Kim, his 10-year-old son Fletcher, and his daughters Mia, eight and Phoebe, six before killing himself on a farm in Lockhart in the Riverina district near Wagga Wagga New South Wales. The body of Geoff Hunt and a firearm are later found in a dam on the farm by police divers and a suicide note written by Geoff Hunt is also found inside the house on the farm.[citation needed]

• 22 October 2014 – Wedderburn shootings – Ian Jamieson shot dead Peter Lockhart, Peter's wife Mary and Mary's son Greg Holmes on two farm properties in Wedderburn, Victoria over a property dispute. Jamieson surrendered to police after a three-and-a-half hour siege.[citation needed]

• 7 November 2014 – Jordy Brook carjacked a Channel 7 news cameraman at gun point during a crime spree on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. He was later captured and arrested by police after luring police on a high speed chase and crashing the car.[citation needed]

• 12 November 2014 – Jamie Edwards and Joelene Joyce a married couple who were drug dealers are found shot dead in a car on a highway in the town of Moama, New South Wales.[86]

• 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]

• 27 June 2015 – Hermidale triple murder – the bodies of three people, two men and a woman are found shot dead on a property in a rural farming community in the town of Hermidale west of Nyngan, the bodies of 28-year-old Jacob Cumberland his father 59-year-old Stephen Cumberland and a 36-year-old woman were found with gun shot wounds, the body of Jacob Cumberland was found on the drive way of the property, the body of the 36-year-old woman was found in the backyard of the property and the body of Stephen Cumberland was found in a burnt out caravan on the property. 61-year-old Allan O'Connor is later arrested and charged with the murders.

• 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.

• 2 October 2015 - 2015 Parramatta shooting On 2 October 2015, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, a 15-year-old boy, shot and killed Curtis Cheng, an unarmed police civilian finance worker, outside the New South Wales Police Force headquarters in Parramatta, Australia. Jabar was subsequently shot and killed by special constables who were protecting the police station.

The highlighted shootings are shootings that either qualify as mass shootings or missed being mass shootings only because the shooter didn't decide to be a mass shooter…in each case, they could easily have murdered more people, targeted schools, or theaters and some actually did target malls..


So no….gun control in Australia did not work.

9 shootings over a decade....some failure.

Are you insane?

those are the big ones moron…….and they each could have been as bad as Port Arthur, the shooters all had guns in a country that confiscated guns and in particular pistols………and just last week a 15 year old immigrant teenager got a gun and murdered the police employee………he could have just walked into his school….

And these are just the crimes they reported on in wikipedia…drive by shootings are up, teenagers carrying guns is up, gun crime is going up in Australia…but our media won't cover that because they need Australia to work…..

So gun violence there is a very small % of what it is here and the difference is media coverage?

Again, are you insane?

No,the difference is the criminal culture……their criminals get guns as easily as ours do…they just don't use them as much…..culture, economics and race relations all dictate violence levels….and sadly for them, their criminal culture is getting more violent and using guns more……in all of those countries…..

And in Europe…their criminals prefer fully automatic military rifles….and grenades…….

Criminal culture?

There aren't that many shootings in Prison (where the criminal culture is something like 100%). You know why? There are no guns. You eliminate guns; you eliminate shootings.

Again, are you insane?

 

[koshergrl]

If parents do not take parenting seriously and get help for their children when they are having trouble adjusting, the school should have hearings and assessments on students who show traits of mental issues. Parents should be held responsible for not locking up guns or other weapons in their homes and the kids get them and act out their vicious fantasies.


I also blame video games for the violence that our children are exposed to. I liked it when a sheriff refused to name the student who shot innocents recently. Don't let these kids think that their names will be known through the media for the evil they do.

This kid was 25 years old. He went to a special school for crazies. He was diagnosed with aspergers and his screen name included the word lithium in it. At some point we have to acknowledge that some people...and many are intelligent....just can't be mainstreamed and pose a threat to themselves and others and need to be locked away even though they haven't had an opportunity to act out their crazy fantasies. I think if a person is insane, and repeatedly states a desire to kill or harm...that should be enough.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If parents do not take parenting seriously and get help for their children when they are having trouble adjusting, the school should have hearings and assessments on students who show traits of mental issues. Parents should be held responsible for not locking up guns or other weapons in their homes and the kids get them and act out their vicious fantasies.


I also blame video games for the violence that our children are exposed to. I liked it when a sheriff refused to name the student who shot innocents recently. Don't let these kids think that their names will be known through the media for the evil they do.

This kid was 25 years old. He went to a special school for crazies. He was diagnosed with aspergers and his screen name included the word lithium in it. At some point we have to acknowledge that some people...and many are intelligent....just can't be mainstreamed and pose a threat to themselves and others and need to be locked away even though they haven't had an opportunity to act out their crazy fantasies. I think if a person is insane, and repeatedly states a desire to kill or harm...that should be enough.

Nuts and guns, never a good fit but there is the small problem of innocence. Being nuts isn't a crime. If I was running the place we'd lock your kind away, you're a loon.

 

[Freiheit]

The highlighted shootings are shootings that either qualify as mass shootings or missed being mass shootings only because the shooter didn't decide to be a mass shooter…in each case, they could easily have murdered more people, targeted schools, or theaters and some actually did target malls..


So no….gun control in Australia did not work.

9 shootings over a decade....some failure.

Are you insane?

those are the big ones moron…….and they each could have been as bad as Port Arthur, the shooters all had guns in a country that confiscated guns and in particular pistols………and just last week a 15 year old immigrant teenager got a gun and murdered the police employee………he could have just walked into his school….

And these are just the crimes they reported on in wikipedia…drive by shootings are up, teenagers carrying guns is up, gun crime is going up in Australia…but our media won't cover that because they need Australia to work…..

So gun violence there is a very small % of what it is here and the difference is media coverage?

Again, are you insane?

No,the difference is the criminal culture……their criminals get guns as easily as ours do…they just don't use them as much…..culture, economics and race relations all dictate violence levels….and sadly for them, their criminal culture is getting more violent and using guns more……in all of those countries…..

And in Europe…their criminals prefer fully automatic military rifles….and grenades…….

Criminal culture?

There aren't that many shootings in Prison (where the criminal culture is something like 100%). You know why? There are no guns. You eliminate guns; you eliminate shootings.

Again, are you insane?

So you advocate treating citizens as if they are in prison? Prisons use random cell searches, censorship of communication,
random search and seizure, absolute control of every aspect of prisoners life. This you advocate for each and every citizen?
Sounds like a life worth living yeah right. Again Mencken had it right:
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
H. L. Mencken

 

[2aguy]

The highlighted shootings are shootings that either qualify as mass shootings or missed being mass shootings only because the shooter didn't decide to be a mass shooter…in each case, they could easily have murdered more people, targeted schools, or theaters and some actually did target malls..


So no….gun control in Australia did not work.

9 shootings over a decade....some failure.

Are you insane?

those are the big ones moron…….and they each could have been as bad as Port Arthur, the shooters all had guns in a country that confiscated guns and in particular pistols………and just last week a 15 year old immigrant teenager got a gun and murdered the police employee………he could have just walked into his school….

And these are just the crimes they reported on in wikipedia…drive by shootings are up, teenagers carrying guns is up, gun crime is going up in Australia…but our media won't cover that because they need Australia to work…..

So gun violence there is a very small % of what it is here and the difference is media coverage?

Again, are you insane?

No,the difference is the criminal culture……their criminals get guns as easily as ours do…they just don't use them as much…..culture, economics and race relations all dictate violence levels….and sadly for them, their criminal culture is getting more violent and using guns more……in all of those countries…..

And in Europe…their criminals prefer fully automatic military rifles….and grenades…….

Criminal culture?

There aren't that many shootings in Prison (where the criminal culture is something like 100%). You know why? There are no guns. You eliminate guns; you eliminate shootings.

Again, are you insane?

You do know that they get guns in prison..right? Even with all the security….right?

And a situation where the prisoners are monitored at all times, with fences and gates and armed guards….and cameras and having every activity completely controlled……that is how you want to control guns in the outside world? Really?

Of course you do……….that is also why you guys always end up with death camps for people who simply, won't, just, do what you say…...

 

[FA_Q2]

I'll disagree with you here. The US has 330,000,000 people. In terms of the earth's population, that is about 1/15 or whatever. So 14/15's do not live under the 2nd Amendment's allowance for you to get a gun relatively easily.
Lets chop that number in half to 7/15's or 2.8 Billion folks that live in nations that are somewhat advanced and modernized. Undoubtedly there are males who have "crises of masculinity" as you so deftly put it in China, Japan, India, etc... Moreover, as women begin to ascend to higher social levels in these nations, you'll have scores more of these men who are being emasculated figuratively. While you could argue about the cultural value system, Hollywood would be the first to the tell you that it values much more what movies a Chinese teen is attending in Hong Kong more than what an American in Houston is attending. They launch the same movies worldwide and the teens are seeing the same scenes of James Bond, Tony Stark, Star Trek, Star Wars, Hunger Games, etc... Harry Potter was set in London!!! Books? They read the same books. Television shows are pretty much the same. Wars? Europe has seen combat hundreds of more times than the US. Australia was once a penal colony if you want to talk about deviant behavior.

Anyway,you have males who are frustrated simply by the law of big numbers. And you have the same influences by and large.

The only major difference is the 2nd Amendment and a Wal*Mart willing to sell you as many weapons as you can afford.

Utter nonsense.

There are a million differences that are completely unrelated to the existence of Wal-Mart weapons or the second amendment. This is why comparing homicide rates between nations is asinine - you cant control the thousands of variables from diversity and population density to cultural values.

The only difference between a jaded youth in Lisbon and the jaded youth in Littleton is the ability to acquire an Arsenal.

Utterly false again.

It is really sad that you have no idea how vastly different cultural realities and population norms are across the globe.

Come back when you bother to have an inkling that the world is not actually like America sans one amendment.

You're obviously devoid of any knowledge outside of your own experiences which are few; you fill in the rest with prejudices and jizz from the NRA.

lol.

You declare that I do not know what I am talking about when I bring facts to the table.

You are one of the most moronic and idiotic posters here candy. Fuck off.

 

[guno]

" what IS the best way to reduce or prevent mass shootings?"

Catholics shouldn't bring guns to mass?

No guns at mass= No mass shootings

 

[Little-Acorn]

There aren't that many shootings in Prison (where the criminal culture is something like 100%). You know why? There are no guns. You eliminate guns; you eliminate shootings.

Check off another liberal who wants 100% confiscation of everyone's guns, followed by the massive police state necessary to repeatedly search people's houses to make sure no one has one.

At least this one acknowledges that what she wants will basically turn the entire U.S. into an oppressive prison of 300,000,000 inmates.

 

[candycorn]

I'll disagree with you here. The US has 330,000,000 people. In terms of the earth's population, that is about 1/15 or whatever. So 14/15's do not live under the 2nd Amendment's allowance for you to get a gun relatively easily.
Lets chop that number in half to 7/15's or 2.8 Billion folks that live in nations that are somewhat advanced and modernized. Undoubtedly there are males who have "crises of masculinity" as you so deftly put it in China, Japan, India, etc... Moreover, as women begin to ascend to higher social levels in these nations, you'll have scores more of these men who are being emasculated figuratively. While you could argue about the cultural value system, Hollywood would be the first to the tell you that it values much more what movies a Chinese teen is attending in Hong Kong more than what an American in Houston is attending. They launch the same movies worldwide and the teens are seeing the same scenes of James Bond, Tony Stark, Star Trek, Star Wars, Hunger Games, etc... Harry Potter was set in London!!! Books? They read the same books. Television shows are pretty much the same. Wars? Europe has seen combat hundreds of more times than the US. Australia was once a penal colony if you want to talk about deviant behavior.

Anyway,you have males who are frustrated simply by the law of big numbers. And you have the same influences by and large.

The only major difference is the 2nd Amendment and a Wal*Mart willing to sell you as many weapons as you can afford.

Utter nonsense.

There are a million differences that are completely unrelated to the existence of Wal-Mart weapons or the second amendment. This is why comparing homicide rates between nations is asinine - you cant control the thousands of variables from diversity and population density to cultural values.

The only difference between a jaded youth in Lisbon and the jaded youth in Littleton is the ability to acquire an Arsenal.

Utterly false again.

It is really sad that you have no idea how vastly different cultural realities and population norms are across the globe.

Come back when you bother to have an inkling that the world is not actually like America sans one amendment.

You're obviously devoid of any knowledge outside of your own experiences which are few; you fill in the rest with prejudices and jizz from the NRA.

lol.

You declare that I do not know what I am talking about when I bring facts to the table.

You are one of the most moronic and idiotic posters here candy. Fuck off.

Really....what fact did you bring to the table? It is a fact that our cultures are the same in terms of music movies, books, etc. That if you want to talk about violence being part of it, Europe has seen exponential sums of war compared to us.

Well let's hear it.

 

[amrchaos]

If parents do not take parenting seriously and get help for their children when they are having trouble adjusting, the school should have hearings and assessments on students who show traits of mental issues. Parents should be held responsible for not locking up guns or other weapons in their homes and the kids get them and act out their vicious fantasies.


I also blame video games for the violence that our children are exposed to. I liked it when a sheriff refused to name the student who shot innocents recently. Don't let these kids think that their names will be known through the media for the evil they do.

This kid was 25 years old. He went to a special school for crazies. He was diagnosed with aspergers and his screen name included the word lithium in it. At some point we have to acknowledge that some people...and many are intelligent....just can't be mainstreamed and pose a threat to themselves and others and need to be locked away even though they haven't had an opportunity to act out their crazy fantasies. I think if a person is insane, and repeatedly states a desire to kill or harm...that should be enough.

Nuts and guns, never a good fit but there is the small problem of innocence. Being nuts isn't a crime. If I was running the place we'd lock your kind away, you're a loon.

You are right. People could use that argument to lock up YEC'ers and evangelicals as a group.

That is wrong.

 

[idb]

Try and figure out what the common denominator is in every shooting and work from there.
Hmmmmm....thinking caps on...

 

[candycorn]

There aren't that many shootings in Prison (where the criminal culture is something like 100%). You know why? There are no guns. You eliminate guns; you eliminate shootings.

Check off another liberal who wants 100% confiscation of everyone's guns, followed by the massive police state necessary to repeatedly search people's houses to make sure no one has one.

At least this one acknowledges that what she wants will basically turn the entire U.S. into an oppressive prison of 300,000,000 inmates.

Weak. Even for you.

Simply pointed out that culture does not equal gun violence when guns are not there or hard to get.

My plan doesn't confiscate a weapon unless a crime is committed in the use or sale of that gun. Responsible gun owners simply go on living.

 

[amrchaos]

There aren't that many shootings in Prison (where the criminal culture is something like 100%). You know why? There are no guns. You eliminate guns; you eliminate shootings.

Check off another liberal who wants 100% confiscation of everyone's guns, followed by the massive police state necessary to repeatedly search people's houses to make sure no one has one.

At least this one acknowledges that what she wants will basically turn the entire U.S. into an oppressive prison of 300,000,000 inmates.

You just described Stalin's communism, buddy!

 

[amrchaos]

Try and figure out what the common denominator is in every shooting and work from there.
Hmmmmm....thinking caps on...

Well, there is the gun.

Either insanity in the individual or anger towards the group is another

Lack of defensive training/techniques in the victims is a third.

That seems like a good start.

 

[candycorn]

Try and figure out what the common denominator is in every shooting and work from there.
Hmmmmm....thinking caps on...

It's crazy.

Its almost like there are two companies across the street from one another. One spends $10 to fix a leaky roof in their posh HQ and we spend $400 to merely patch the roof in ours.

When you ask what the difference is in the two companies and why can't we be smart like they are... you're told

• We like being wet, always have.
• It doesn't rain on their side of the street
• They have different colored employees
• Ha ha...once in a while one of them gets wet too so quit yer bitchin
• Those of us who got wet are wet not because we do not fix the roof but because they lived on the wrong floor...so we don't care.

It's perverse in it's bloodlust.

 

[2aguy]

Utter nonsense.

There are a million differences that are completely unrelated to the existence of Wal-Mart weapons or the second amendment. This is why comparing homicide rates between nations is asinine - you cant control the thousands of variables from diversity and population density to cultural values.

The only difference between a jaded youth in Lisbon and the jaded youth in Littleton is the ability to acquire an Arsenal.

Utterly false again.

It is really sad that you have no idea how vastly different cultural realities and population norms are across the globe.

Come back when you bother to have an inkling that the world is not actually like America sans one amendment.

You're obviously devoid of any knowledge outside of your own experiences which are few; you fill in the rest with prejudices and jizz from the NRA.

lol.

You declare that I do not know what I am talking about when I bring facts to the table.

You are one of the most moronic and idiotic posters here candy. Fuck off.

Really....what fact did you bring to the table? It is a fact that our cultures are the same in terms of music movies, books, etc. That if you want to talk about violence being part of it, Europe has seen exponential sums of war compared to us.

Well let's hear it.

they also respect authority more than out thugs do....they trust the government more than our people do...they have a the remnants of a social class,system where the peasants were unarmed...and yes, they lived through the destruction of both World wars. the First World war had massive casualties, amd the second saw their cities bombed....it affected them in ways we didn't experience....so yes...we have different cultures.

We never experienced feudalism and it's,effects,in a culture...and we fought a war for independence from them....they freely gave up their guns and were willing to accept more violent crime rates.....we won't give up our guns and our violent crime rates are going down, not up.

 

[2aguy]

Try and figure out what the common denominator is in every shooting and work from there.
Hmmmmm....thinking caps on...

Well, there is the gun.

Either insanity in the individual or anger towards the group is another

Lack of defensive training/techniques in the victims is a third.

That seems like a good start.

Gun free zones for mass shooters, and fatherless boys for most of the other gun murders....

 

[koshergrl]

If parents do not take parenting seriously and get help for their children when they are having trouble adjusting, the school should have hearings and assessments on students who show traits of mental issues. Parents should be held responsible for not locking up guns or other weapons in their homes and the kids get them and act out their vicious fantasies.


I also blame video games for the violence that our children are exposed to. I liked it when a sheriff refused to name the student who shot innocents recently. Don't let these kids think that their names will be known through the media for the evil they do.

This kid was 25 years old. He went to a special school for crazies. He was diagnosed with aspergers and his screen name included the word lithium in it. At some point we have to acknowledge that some people...and many are intelligent....just can't be mainstreamed and pose a threat to themselves and others and need to be locked away even though they haven't had an opportunity to act out their crazy fantasies. I think if a person is insane, and repeatedly states a desire to kill or harm...that should be enough.

Nuts and guns, never a good fit but there is the small problem of innocence. Being nuts isn't a crime. If I was running the place we'd lock your kind away, you're a loon.

You are right. People could use that argument to lock up YEC'ers and evangelicals as a group.

That is wrong.

Evangelicals aren't insane, and they don't go around saying their admiration of others depends on how many people they have personally killed. Nor do they go around saying they want to kill people. Nor do they scare the neighborhood children and their classmates.

That isn't to say evangelicals can't be mentally ill. I'm sure there are a few who do have delusions and who aren't rational.

But being a different religion isn't the definition of *crazy* I'm afraid.

Though it's a little crazy to say people should be locked up for their religion.

 

[koshergrl]

Try and figure out what the common denominator is in every shooting and work from there.
Hmmmmm....thinking caps on...

It's crazy.

Its almost like there are two companies across the street from one another. One spends $10 to fix a leaky roof in their posh HQ and we spend $400 to merely patch the roof in ours.

When you ask what the difference is in the two companies and why can't we be smart like they are... you're told

• We like being wet, always have.
• It doesn't rain on their side of the street
• They have different colored employees
• Ha ha...once in a while one of them gets wet too so quit yer bitchin
• Those of us who got wet are wet not because we do not fix the roof but because they lived on the wrong floor...so we don't care.

It's perverse in it's bloodlust.

See, I think it sounds like you are mentally ill. Crazy people speak to a dialogue that only they can hear.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If parents do not take parenting seriously and get help for their children when they are having trouble adjusting, the school should have hearings and assessments on students who show traits of mental issues. Parents should be held responsible for not locking up guns or other weapons in their homes and the kids get them and act out their vicious fantasies.


I also blame video games for the violence that our children are exposed to. I liked it when a sheriff refused to name the student who shot innocents recently. Don't let these kids think that their names will be known through the media for the evil they do.

This kid was 25 years old. He went to a special school for crazies. He was diagnosed with aspergers and his screen name included the word lithium in it. At some point we have to acknowledge that some people...and many are intelligent....just can't be mainstreamed and pose a threat to themselves and others and need to be locked away even though they haven't had an opportunity to act out their crazy fantasies. I think if a person is insane, and repeatedly states a desire to kill or harm...that should be enough.

Yeah, but then you're back to the book 1984 where they had thought police.

We used to lock people up (committed) who acted or did weird things, but liberals put a stop to that calling the institutions crime-less prisons. Even people with mental issues have the Constitutional right to be free in a free country.

If you call the police because you suspect somebody is going to harm you, they will come out, shrug their shoulders and tell you there is nothing they can do until a crime is committed.

Our Constitution is a great thing, but sometimes it works against us and we have to live with that. It guarantees us the right to own and use firearms, but it also gives us a right to a fair trial and judgement IF we commit a crime.