So Who's Really Being Intolerant ?

[Mr.Right]

There are no gay animals. It's a myth. Go educate yourself. You ignorance offends me.
Homosexuality in animals myth - Conservapedia

What a joke. Tell you what, you look at Conservapedia and I'll continue to trust the research done by National Geographic.

Same-sex Behavior Common Across Animal Species Review Finds Voices

I can claim that your source is just as much a joke as you claim mine is.

Same sex pairings and sexual activities have been observed in numerous species. To dismiss them all as confusion or some equally ridiculous reason is unscientific. There are several species that have been seen engaging in same gender relationships or homosexual activities, which have high intelligence. Bonobos Chimps and dolphins to name a couple.

If you had bothered to read the link I posted, it mentions them and possible reasons why they do it. But it's not because they are gay.

It is, according to the behavioral scientists who have expertize on the subject, homosexual behavior. Anyone who has witnessed other animals doing it readily acknowledge what they are seeing. On the contrary, all you've got is a ridiculous rant posted on Conservapedia by a creationist.
Next.

Which you didn't even read.

 

[orogenicman]

What a joke. Tell you what, you look at Conservapedia and I'll continue to trust the research done by National Geographic.

Same-sex Behavior Common Across Animal Species Review Finds Voices

I can claim that your source is just as much a joke as you claim mine is.

Same sex pairings and sexual activities have been observed in numerous species. To dismiss them all as confusion or some equally ridiculous reason is unscientific. There are several species that have been seen engaging in same gender relationships or homosexual activities, which have high intelligence. Bonobos Chimps and dolphins to name a couple.

If you had bothered to read the link I posted, it mentions them and possible reasons why they do it. But it's not because they are gay.

It is, according to the behavioral scientists who have expertize on the subject, homosexual behavior. Anyone who has witnessed other animals doing it readily acknowledge what they are seeing. On the contrary, all you've got is a ridiculous rant posted on Conservapedia by a creationist.
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Which you didn't even read.

Actually, I did. I might add that their other "specialist" is a bioethicist at University of Navarra, which is a Catholic University in Spain. And none of his expertize is in animal behavior. So he is not an expert in the field.

 

[WinterBorn]

The definition of "natural" (according to Merriam Webster) is ": existing in nature and not made or caused by people : coming from nature".

So the fact that animals do it on their own does, in fact, mean it is natural.

There are no gay animals. It's a myth. Go educate yourself. You ignorance offends me.
Homosexuality in animals myth - Conservapedia

What a joke. Tell you what, you look at Conservapedia and I'll continue to trust the research done by National Geographic.

Same-sex Behavior Common Across Animal Species Review Finds Voices

I can claim that your source is just as much a joke as you claim mine is.

Same sex pairings and sexual activities have been observed in numerous species. To dismiss them all as confusion or some equally ridiculous reason is unscientific. There are several species that have been seen engaging in same gender relationships or homosexual activities, which have high intelligence. Bonobos Chimps and dolphins to name a couple.

If you had bothered to read the link I posted, it mentions them and possible reasons why they do it. But it's not because they are gay.

Yes, I read the links. They suggested possible alternatives. But since they don't actually know, it is obvious that part of what they are doing is an attempt to discredit the work of the National Geographic and its partners.

 

[WinterBorn]

What a joke. Tell you what, you look at Conservapedia and I'll continue to trust the research done by National Geographic.

Same-sex Behavior Common Across Animal Species Review Finds Voices

I can claim that your source is just as much a joke as you claim mine is.

Same sex pairings and sexual activities have been observed in numerous species. To dismiss them all as confusion or some equally ridiculous reason is unscientific. There are several species that have been seen engaging in same gender relationships or homosexual activities, which have high intelligence. Bonobos Chimps and dolphins to name a couple.

If you had bothered to read the link I posted, it mentions them and possible reasons why they do it. But it's not because they are gay.

It is, according to the behavioral scientists who have expertize on the subject, homosexual behavior. Anyone who has witnessed other animals doing it readily acknowledge what they are seeing. On the contrary, all you've got is a ridiculous rant posted on Conservapedia by a creationist.
Next.

Which you didn't even read.

The entire article boils down to a statement made by the professor of Bioethics, and not a proper animal behaviorist. And his statement is:
"Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction."

The portion that I underlined is this professor's assumption. It is not a fact. It is what he THINKS. And the rest of his premise is only as accurate as that assumption. If any animals do not have this reproductive instinct that is directed towards the opposite gender, his entire premise goes down the drain.

Yes, I read the linked article.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Take a look and see how Hitler reacts to being denied a cake!

 

[Zoom-boing]

It's just not rocket science.

"A gay woman who donated $20 to Memories Pizza in Walkerton, Indiana, is speaking out about her decision to take a stand in support of all Americans’ right to live their lives according to their beliefs.

That’s why Hoffman’s donation stood out. While she clearly disagrees with the owners’ beliefs, she still supports their right to operate their business based on those beliefs. In addition to her $20 donation to Memories Pizza, Hoffman wrote:

“As a member of the gay community, I would like to apologize for the mean spirited attacks on you and your business. I know many gay individuals who fully support your right to stand up for your beliefs and run your business according to those beliefs. We are outraged at the level of hate and intolerance that has been directed at you and I sincerely hope that you are able to rebuild."

Why did she do it?

“My girlfriend and I are small business owners, and we think there is a difference between operating in a public market space and then attaching the name of your business to a private event,” she said. “Like, if we were asked to set up at an anti-gay marriage rally, I mean, we would have to decline.”

Gay Woman Who Donated 20 to Christian-Owned Indiana Pizzeria Reveals Why She Took Bold Stand Video TheBlaze.com

 

[Katzndogz]

I can claim that your source is just as much a joke as you claim mine is.

Same sex pairings and sexual activities have been observed in numerous species. To dismiss them all as confusion or some equally ridiculous reason is unscientific. There are several species that have been seen engaging in same gender relationships or homosexual activities, which have high intelligence. Bonobos Chimps and dolphins to name a couple.

If you had bothered to read the link I posted, it mentions them and possible reasons why they do it. But it's not because they are gay.

It is, according to the behavioral scientists who have expertize on the subject, homosexual behavior. Anyone who has witnessed other animals doing it readily acknowledge what they are seeing. On the contrary, all you've got is a ridiculous rant posted on Conservapedia by a creationist.
Next.

Which you didn't even read.

The entire article boils down to a statement made by the professor of Bioethics, and not a proper animal behaviorist. And his statement is:
"Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction."

The portion that I underlined is this professor's assumption. It is not a fact. It is what he THINKS. And the rest of his premise is only as accurate as that assumption. If any animals do not have this reproductive instinct that is directed towards the opposite gender, his entire premise goes down the drain.

Yes, I read the linked article.

All animals have is reproductive instinct. They don't have romance. They don't fall in love. They don't have the emotional attachment to sex that human beings have. Their biological urges and reproductive instinct is governed by scent.

 

[WinterBorn]

Same sex pairings and sexual activities have been observed in numerous species. To dismiss them all as confusion or some equally ridiculous reason is unscientific. There are several species that have been seen engaging in same gender relationships or homosexual activities, which have high intelligence. Bonobos Chimps and dolphins to name a couple.

If you had bothered to read the link I posted, it mentions them and possible reasons why they do it. But it's not because they are gay.

It is, according to the behavioral scientists who have expertize on the subject, homosexual behavior. Anyone who has witnessed other animals doing it readily acknowledge what they are seeing. On the contrary, all you've got is a ridiculous rant posted on Conservapedia by a creationist.
Next.

Which you didn't even read.

The entire article boils down to a statement made by the professor of Bioethics, and not a proper animal behaviorist. And his statement is:
"Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction."

The portion that I underlined is this professor's assumption. It is not a fact. It is what he THINKS. And the rest of his premise is only as accurate as that assumption. If any animals do not have this reproductive instinct that is directed towards the opposite gender, his entire premise goes down the drain.

Yes, I read the linked article.

All animals have is reproductive instinct. They don't have romance. They don't fall in love. They don't have the emotional attachment to sex that human beings have. Their biological urges and reproductive instinct is governed by scent.

And you know this how? There are animals that form lasting emotional bonds. Proclaiming that they do not love is just you making claims you cannot prove.

 

[Mr.Right]

If you had bothered to read the link I posted, it mentions them and possible reasons why they do it. But it's not because they are gay.

It is, according to the behavioral scientists who have expertize on the subject, homosexual behavior. Anyone who has witnessed other animals doing it readily acknowledge what they are seeing. On the contrary, all you've got is a ridiculous rant posted on Conservapedia by a creationist.
Next.

Which you didn't even read.

The entire article boils down to a statement made by the professor of Bioethics, and not a proper animal behaviorist. And his statement is:
"Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction."

The portion that I underlined is this professor's assumption. It is not a fact. It is what he THINKS. And the rest of his premise is only as accurate as that assumption. If any animals do not have this reproductive instinct that is directed towards the opposite gender, his entire premise goes down the drain.

Yes, I read the linked article.

All animals have is reproductive instinct. They don't have romance. They don't fall in love. They don't have the emotional attachment to sex that human beings have. Their biological urges and reproductive instinct is governed by scent.

And you know this how? There are animals that form lasting emotional bonds. Proclaiming that they do not love is just you making claims you cannot prove.

I thought this thread was about tolerance, and how gays have none for those who will not openly embrace their perverted lifestyle.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

It's just not rocket science.

"A gay woman who donated $20 to Memories Pizza in Walkerton, Indiana, is speaking out about her decision to take a stand in support of all Americans’ right to live their lives according to their beliefs.

That’s why Hoffman’s donation stood out. While she clearly disagrees with the owners’ beliefs, she still supports their right to operate their business based on those beliefs. In addition to her $20 donation to Memories Pizza, Hoffman wrote:

“As a member of the gay community, I would like to apologize for the mean spirited attacks on you and your business. I know many gay individuals who fully support your right to stand up for your beliefs and run your business according to those beliefs. We are outraged at the level of hate and intolerance that has been directed at you and I sincerely hope that you are able to rebuild."

Why did she do it?

“My girlfriend and I are small business owners, and we think there is a difference between operating in a public market space and then attaching the name of your business to a private event,” she said. “Like, if we were asked to set up at an anti-gay marriage rally, I mean, we would have to decline.”

Gay Woman Who Donated 20 to Christian-Owned Indiana Pizzeria Reveals Why She Took Bold Stand Video TheBlaze.com

Thank you for sharing this article and video. I have a feeling Courtney speaks for the majority of the Gay community. All this hatred for Memories Pizza is coming mostly from straight Leftists. Gays know what it's like to be persecuted for their beliefs and should understand what the business owners are going through.

 

[protectionist]

Incorrect. No one is being 'forced' to do anything.Religious beliefs may not be used as an 'excuse' to ignore or violate just, proper, and Constitutional laws, such as public accommodations laws, as the intent of these laws is regulatory, not to disadvantage religion.

It is correct. You are lying. The Christians are being forced to go against their beliefs, and in violation of the law ((RFRA). And a stupid notion like sexual orientation (code word for perversion) may not be used as an 'excuse' to ignore or violate just, proper, and Constitutional laws.

 

[WinterBorn]

It is, according to the behavioral scientists who have expertize on the subject, homosexual behavior. Anyone who has witnessed other animals doing it readily acknowledge what they are seeing. On the contrary, all you've got is a ridiculous rant posted on Conservapedia by a creationist.
Next.

Which you didn't even read.

The entire article boils down to a statement made by the professor of Bioethics, and not a proper animal behaviorist. And his statement is:
"Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction."

The portion that I underlined is this professor's assumption. It is not a fact. It is what he THINKS. And the rest of his premise is only as accurate as that assumption. If any animals do not have this reproductive instinct that is directed towards the opposite gender, his entire premise goes down the drain.

Yes, I read the linked article.

All animals have is reproductive instinct. They don't have romance. They don't fall in love. They don't have the emotional attachment to sex that human beings have. Their biological urges and reproductive instinct is governed by scent.

And you know this how? There are animals that form lasting emotional bonds. Proclaiming that they do not love is just you making claims you cannot prove.

I thought this thread was about tolerance, and how gays have none for those who will not openly embrace their perverted lifestyle.

That is what was intended. But apparently the person starting the thread was unable to keep it focused solely on gays.

The part about animals and nature came from the replies to his claim that homosexual activity is unnatural.

 

[protectionist]

I thought this thread was about tolerance, and how gays have none for those who will not openly embrace their perverted lifestyle.

You thought right. But we have the typical distortions of reality (AKA lying), coming from the liberal, gay ass-kissers, who rely on that to try to push their FALSE and ludicrous agendas.

 

[WinterBorn]

Incorrect. No one is being 'forced' to do anything.Religious beliefs may not be used as an 'excuse' to ignore or violate just, proper, and Constitutional laws, such as public accommodations laws, as the intent of these laws is regulatory, not to disadvantage religion.

It is correct. You are lying. The Christians are being forced to go against their beliefs, and in violation of the law ((RFRA). And a stupid notion like sexual orientation (code word for perversion) may not be used as an 'excuse' to ignore or violate just, proper, and Constitutional laws.

So the thread slowed down enough for you to come back?

 

[WinterBorn]

I thought this thread was about tolerance, and how gays have none for those who will not openly embrace their perverted lifestyle.

You thought right. But we have the typical distortions of reality (AKA lying), coming from the liberal, gay ass-kissers, who rely on that to try to push their FALSE and ludicrous agendas.

LMAO!!

What agenda have I tried to push? And I haven't lied. I have corrected a few lies, but have told none.

 

[G.T.]

Its is not sentient or enlightened to look down on consenting adults for who they fuck.

It is prehistoric minded, with the inability to discern conscience from cohabitation.

Anti gay people are not as moral or smart as the other 60% of America.

 

[WinterBorn]

Its is not sentient or enlightened to look down on consenting adults for who they fuck.

It is prehistoric minded, with the inability to discern conscience from cohabitation.

Anti gay people are not as moral or smart as the other 60% of America.

Of all the reasons you can base your opinion on someone, who they love seems almost as trivial as the color of their skin.

Well said, G.T.

 

[G.T.]

Its is not sentient or enlightened to look down on consenting adults for who they fuck.

It is prehistoric minded, with the inability to discern conscience from cohabitation.

Anti gay people are not as moral or smart as the other 60% of America.

Of all the reasons you can base your opinion on someone, who they love seems almost as trivial as the color of their skin.

Well said, G.T.

Thanks.

It's just a cold hard truth, people who judge people for being gay are busy bodied closed minded idiots. There's not been a single sufficient reason, in all the years of the internet, ever posted to be snubbing your nose at a person because they're attracted to the same sex.

Not one reason that makes it a moral imperative, a natural imperative or a logical imperative.

And so the truth is, arguing with neanderthals is pointless. They cant learn.

 

[WinterBorn]

Its is not sentient or enlightened to look down on consenting adults for who they fuck.

It is prehistoric minded, with the inability to discern conscience from cohabitation.

Anti gay people are not as moral or smart as the other 60% of America.

Of all the reasons you can base your opinion on someone, who they love seems almost as trivial as the color of their skin.

Well said, G.T.

Thanks.

It's just a cold hard truth, people who judge people for being gay are busy bodied closed minded idiots. There's not been a single sufficient reason, in all the years of the internet, ever posted to be snubbing your nose at a person because they're attracted to the same sex.

Not one reason that makes it a moral imperative, a natural imperative or a logical imperative.

And so the truth is, arguing with neanderthals is pointless. They cant learn.

This topic, like a couple of others, will be argued to infinity and never change the minds of most of those in the discussion. But there are those who lurk and only read the posts in such discussions. Those people may not understand that much of what is posted is a lie. Pointing out the truth keeps the neanderthals honest and the rest of the people informed.

 

[G.T.]

Its is not sentient or enlightened to look down on consenting adults for who they fuck.

It is prehistoric minded, with the inability to discern conscience from cohabitation.

Anti gay people are not as moral or smart as the other 60% of America.

Of all the reasons you can base your opinion on someone, who they love seems almost as trivial as the color of their skin.

Well said, G.T.

Thanks.

It's just a cold hard truth, people who judge people for being gay are busy bodied closed minded idiots. There's not been a single sufficient reason, in all the years of the internet, ever posted to be snubbing your nose at a person because they're attracted to the same sex.

Not one reason that makes it a moral imperative, a natural imperative or a logical imperative.

And so the truth is, arguing with neanderthals is pointless. They cant learn.

This topic, like a couple of others, will be argued to infinity and never change the minds of most of those in the discussion. But there are those who lurk and only read the posts in such discussions. Those people may not understand that much of what is posted is a lie. Pointing out the truth keeps the neanderthals honest and the rest of the people informed.

Some minds are changing. Whether it's through death or rebirth, it's gained in popularity from the 20's as a percent, to the 60's and climbing.