AntonToo
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Likewise, there is plenty of reason to at least look into the evidence presented to the FISA court, right? I mean, they put a damn mole in the opposition parties presidential nominee's campaign. That gave the Obama administration ears into the campaign itself.Do you not see the one-sided nature of all this stuff you just posted?But, surely you agree that it seems highly suspicious, when a Democrat administration puts a mole in the campaign of the presidential candidate in the Republican party, right? You can certainly understand the concern, can you not?There has so far been ZERO evidence presented for any of the illegalities routinely claimed by Trump and his rightwinger dupes.
Legitamate surveilance, with reasonable suspicion and warrants in hand IS NOT some sort of not-as-diabolical version of what Trumpsters are peddling. It is our Justice system doing it's damn job, protecting this country.
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Russia hacks DNC.
Trump members know about Russia having Clinton emails, when no one else does.
Trump campaign solicits compromat on Hillary from Russian government.
Trump campaign is being run by an undeclared foreign agents named Manafort and Gates. Manafort specifically owns millions to Deripaska and offers to continiously provide campaign info in return.
Trump, who has had Russian bussiness entaglements for a while now, is trying to secure a Tower project in Moscow, right in the middle of campaign.
Trump publicly opposes sanctions on Russia, goes on TV to flatter and defend Putin, also asks Russia to go hack Hillary emails.
And you seriously propose that there is not enough here for reasonable suspicions? Not enough to surveil Manafort and known Russian spy-ring co-operator named Carter AFTER they left the campaign?
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Facts don't have a side.
If you think I posted something less than factual go ahead and refute it, but I see them adding up to PLENTY of reasonable suspicion warranting investigating.
You would have no problem with Trump doing the same to, say, a Biden campaign?
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You are confused, FISA warrants have nothing to do with the mole who was probing campaign members for Russian contacts.
FISA warrant has to do with electronic surveilance of Manafort and Carter AFTER they left the campaign. Given the entanglements with Russians for both, the standard for warrant would be very low.
Still, Trumpsters want to go review "the predicates" and investigate the investigators? No problem, knock yourself out, but the way Trump and his admin spread conspiracy theories based on nothing is completely rediculous. I feel bad for all the rightwinger dupes who still take them seriously.
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