Stalin, Communism and the left wing

[Unkotare]

Which things did Mao do that makes you say he was left wing?

Because his idiotic attempts at enforcing communist social and economic policies cost the lives of tens of millions of people.

Er.... you haven't said anything.

ER...the words are right there. You quoted them. That asshole mao imposed communist agrarian reform, land redistribution, the violent destruction of traditional social structures, government-enforced undermining of the traditional family, control of thought, speech, and action in all aspects of public and private life, replacement of the state for religion - at the point of a gun, enforced worship of the state, etc. ALL of the typical manifestations of the failed ideology that leftist scumbags like you hold closest to heart.

And as a result, tens of millions of people died who needn't have.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Stalin and the USSR was loved by the Koch family.

The US supported Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussain, Osama bin Laden among many of the dictators and bad people in the world.

Don't forget to add Obama and FDR to that list

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Stalin, Communism, Socialism, Liberals, Democrats, and the National Socialists German Workers Party (NAZI's).


Yes, the American Socialists, the Democrats are no different than Stalin or other socialists, such as Hitler.

Socialists literally destroy the World, from famine to extreme pollution, Socialism is the disease.

Socialism needs to be eradicated, destroyed, like a weed, like a disease.

Have you got your anger out of your system now?

This, however, is a debate board and not an anger management program.

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

Greenhouse emissions?

So stupid it hurts

 

[frigidweirdo]

Stalin, Communism, Socialism, Liberals, Democrats, and the National Socialists German Workers Party (NAZI's).


Yes, the American Socialists, the Democrats are no different than Stalin or other socialists, such as Hitler.

Socialists literally destroy the World, from famine to extreme pollution, Socialism is the disease.

Socialism needs to be eradicated, destroyed, like a weed, like a disease.

Have you got your anger out of your system now?

This, however, is a debate board and not an anger management program.

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

Greenhouse emissions?

So stupid it hurts

What's so stupid is that someone writes a whole post and you pick up on one thing where you think there is a mistake and try and hammer that, and don't even respond to the actual point.

 

[Discombobulated]

Stalin, Communist dictator, but a right winger

Mao, Communist dictator, but another darn right winger

Hitler, Fascist dictator and, another darn right winger

Americas Founding fathers favored individual liberty and knowing how those darn right wing dictators were, a Constitutionally limited government.

OK, when can I stop standing on my head?

So was the Declaration of Independence a left or right wing document?

right wing

Aren't you embarrassed to be wrong and stupid all the time? You should be.

 

[Discombobulated]

Stalin, Communist dictator, but a right winger

Mao, Communist dictator, but another darn right winger

Hitler, Fascist dictator and, another darn right winger

Americas Founding fathers favored individual liberty and knowing how those darn right wing dictators were, a Constitutionally limited government.

OK, when can I stop standing on my head?

Constitutionally limited government has nothing to do with being right wing.

Tell me more!

What does your great Intellect tell you?

My intellect tells me that you don't anything about anything.

 

[frigidweirdo]

In the USSR they had voting. ...

Fucking idiot.

I reported your post, you really should try debating.

Do you know so LITTLE about the USSR that you don't know they had voting?

Elections in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Soviet democracy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Elections in the USSR - Soviet-Empire.com U.S.S.R.

"Chapter XI
TheElectoral System

Article 134. Members of all Soviets of Working People's Deputies--of the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R., the Supreme Soviets of the Union Republics, the Soviets of Working People's Deputies of the Territories and Regions, the Supreme Soviets of the Autonomous Republics, and Soviets of Working People's Deputies of Autonomous Regions, area, district, city and rural (station, village, hamlet, kishlak, aul) Soviets of Working People's Deputies--are chosen by the electors on the basis of universal, direct and equal suffrage by secret ballot.

Article 135. Elections of deputies are universal: all citizens of the U.S.S.R. who have reached the age of eighteen, irrespective of race or nationality, religion, educational and residential qualifications, social origin, property status or past activities, have the right to vote in the election of deputies and to be elected, with theexception of insane persons and persons who have been convicted by a court of law and whose sentences include deprivation of electoral rights.

Article 136. Elections of deputies are equal: each citizen has one vote; all citizens participate in elections on an equal footing.

Article 137. Women have the right to elect and be elected on equal terms with men.

Article 138. Citizens serving in the Red Army have the right to elect and be elected on equal terms with all other citizens.

Article 139. Elections of deputies are direct: all Soviets of Working People's Deputies, from rural and city Soviets of Working People's Deputies to the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R., inclusive, are elected by the citizens by direct vote.

Article 140. Voting at elections of deputies is secret.

Article 141. Candidates for election are nominated according to electoral areas. The right to nominate candidates is secured to public organizations and societies of the working people: Communist Party organizations, trade unions, cooperatives, youth organizations and cultural societies.

Article 142. It is the duty of every deputy to report to his electors on his work and on the work of the Soviet of Working People's Deputies, and he is liable to be recalled at any time in themanner established by law upon decision of a majority of the electors."

From the USSR constitution.


It's not so hard to actually think for yourself instead of believing what you're told. You should try it once in a while.

 

[Discombobulated]

Begs the questions: Are these people totally stupid or completely dishonest? Which is more prominent in their thought process?

 

[Discombobulated]

So besides Jesus Christ, Gandhi and Mother Teresa, who is Left Winger?

It's not Stalin, Mao or Hitler cause they advocated limited government and individual liberty and that makes them right wing dictators, amiright?

Who? Lots of people.

You're trying to claim if you believe in limited govt then you are completely right wing, if you don't you're complete left wing huh?

Oh good, back to simple arguments made out of clouds and thin air.

View attachment 34486

^ limited government and individual liberty?

really?

Still need help with those definitions don't you dummy.

Tell me more about these "Definitions!"

You're so smart and intellectual!

Smart and intellectual? You make it easy to look that way by comparison.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Stalin, Communism, Socialism, Liberals, Democrats, and the National Socialists German Workers Party (NAZI's).


Yes, the American Socialists, the Democrats are no different than Stalin or other socialists, such as Hitler.

Socialists literally destroy the World, from famine to extreme pollution, Socialism is the disease.

Socialism needs to be eradicated, destroyed, like a weed, like a disease.

Have you got your anger out of your system now?

This, however, is a debate board and not an anger management program.

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

Greenhouse emissions?

So stupid it hurts

What's so stupid is that someone writes a whole post and you pick up on one thing where you think there is a mistake and try and hammer that, and don't even respond to the actual point.

So besides Jesus Christ, Gandhi and Mother Teresa, who is Left Winger?

It's not Stalin, Mao or Hitler cause they advocated limited government and individual liberty and that makes them right wing dictators, amiright?

Who? Lots of people.

You're trying to claim if you believe in limited govt then you are completely right wing, if you don't you're complete left wing huh?

Oh good, back to simple arguments made out of clouds and thin air.

View attachment 34486

^ limited government and individual liberty?

really?

Still need help with those definitions don't you dummy.

Tell me more about these "Definitions!"

You're so smart and intellectual!

Smart and intellectual? You make it easy to look that way by comparison.

Tell me more about right and left wing Professor!

 

[Discombobulated]

You guys are all funny. Let's take a look at what the Progressives of the era had to say about Hitler and Stalin. As you can see, progressives felt the same about BOTH fascism, and Soviet style socialism...

• H. G. Wells, one of the most influential progressives of the 20th century, said in 1932 that progressives must become “liberal fascists” and “enlightened Nazis.” Regarding totalitarianism, he stated: “I have never been able to escape altogether from its relentless logic.” Calling for a “‘Phoenix Rebirth’ of Liberalism” under the umbrella of “Liberal Fascism,” Wells said: “I am asking for a Liberal Fascisti, for enlightened Nazis.”

• The poet Wallace Stevens pronounced himself “pro-Mussolini personally.”

• The eminent historian Charles Beard wrote of Mussolini’s efforts: “Beyond question, an amazing experiment is being made [in Italy], an experiment in reconciling individualism and socialism.”

• Muckraking journalists almost universally admired Mussolini. Lincoln Steffens, for one, said that Italian fascism made Western democracy, by comparison, look like a system run by “petty persons with petty purposes.” Mussolini, Steffens proclaimed reverently, had been “formed” by God “out of the rib of Italy.”

• McClure’s Magazine founder Samuel McClure, an important figure in the muckraking movement, described Italian fascism as “a great step forward and the first new ideal in government since the founding of the American Republic.”

• After having vistited Italy and interviewed Mussolini in 1926, the American humorist Will Rogers, who was informally dubbed “Ambassador-at-Large of the United States” by the National Press Club, said of the fascist dictator: “I’m pretty high on that bird.” “Dictator form of government is the greatest form of government,” Rogers wrote, “that is, if you have the right dictator.”

• Reporter Ida Tarbell was deeply impressed by Mussolini's attitudes regarding labor, affectionately dubbing him “a despot with a dimple.”

• NAACP co-founder W. E. B. DuBois saw National Socialism as a worthy model for economic organization. The establishment of the Nazi dictatorship in Germany, he wrote, had been “absolutely necessary to get the state in order.” In 1937 DuBois stated: “there is today, in some respects, more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past.”

• FDR adviser Rexford Guy Tugwell said of Italian fascism: “It's the cleanest, neatest, most efficiently operating piece of social machinery I've ever seen. It makes me envious.”

• New Republic editor George Soule, who avidly supported FDR, noted approvingly that the Roosevelt administration was “trying out the economics of fascism.”

• Playwright George Bernard Shaw hailed Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini as the world’s great “progressive” leaders because they “did things,” unlike the leaders of those “putrefying corpses” called parliamentary democracies.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223


Progressives generally greeted the 1917 Bolshevik revolution in Russia with great enthusiasm, embracing it as a worthy effort to create a socialist utopia. In the 1920s and 1930s, a host of credulous progressive journalists traveled to Russia to chronicle the the revolution's afterglow, so as to inform Americans about the historic significance of what was transpiring there. According to author Jonah Goldberg: “Most liberals saw the Bolsheviks as a popular and progressive movement.... Nearly the entire liberal elite, including much of FDR's Brain Trust, made the pilgrimage to Moscow to take admiring notes on the Soviet experiment.”

One key contributor to this pro-Bolshevik genre was the communist journalist John Reed, author of Ten Days that Shook the World. Reed dismissed concerns about the Red Terror and the mass murder of non-Bolshevists by praising the killers of “this treacherous gang.” Said Reed: “To the wall with them! I say I have learned one mighty expressive word: ‘raztrellyat’ [sic] (execute by shooting).”

Similarly, the intellectual E.A. Ross excused the Bolsheviks' violent campaign of terror on the theory that they did not kill all that many people. (Estimates of the number of deaths by execution range from 50,000 to 200,000.)

Some journalists, like Pulitzer Prize winner Walter Duranty of The New York Times, engaged in deliberate lies to conceal the harsh realities of post-revolution Soviet life. In 1933, for instance, at the height of the Ukrainian famine (engineered by Stalin) during which millions starved to death, Duranty wrote that “village markets [were] flowing with eggs, fruit, poultry, vegetables, milk and butter.... A child can see this is not famine but abundance.”

A British journalist writing in the progressive periodical New Republic declared that the Bolsheviks “stand for rationalism, for an intelligent system of cultivation, for education, for an active ideal of cooperation and social service.”

Most leaders in the American labor movement – including Sidney Hillman and John L. Lewis – expressed deep admiration for “Soviet pragmatism,” Stalin’s “experiment,” and the “heroism” of the Bolsheviks.

Upon returning from Russia in 1921, the muckraking journalist Lincoln Steffens announced: “I've seen the future, and it works.”


http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1222

None the less you've still failed completely to decouple Fascists and Nazis from being defined as right wing. No amount of out of context quotes will change actual history.

 

[Avorysuds]

Both of these threads are fucking stupid.

Neither the left or right are like Hitler or Stalin.

Bush was bad, Republicans are bad, Obama is worse than Bush and Dems are bad but none are a dictator. Obama is flirting with the ever so minor Dictator like powers but still light years from an actual king.

Other countries might be "right" or "left" for themselves, but they in no way reflect the US. It's mentally retarded to say otherwise.

 

[Discombobulated]

Both of these threads are fucking stupid.

Neither the left or right are like Hitler or Stalin.

Bush was bad, Republicans are bad, Obama is worse than Bush and Dems are bad but none are a dictator. Obama is flirting with the ever so minor Dictator like powers but still light years from an actual king.

Other countries might be "right" or "left" for themselves, but they in no way reflect the US. It's mentally retarded to say otherwise.

Your definitions don't matter, real historians have already taken care of that for you.

 

[Discombobulated]

Have you got your anger out of your system now?

This, however, is a debate board and not an anger management program.

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

Greenhouse emissions?

So stupid it hurts

What's so stupid is that someone writes a whole post and you pick up on one thing where you think there is a mistake and try and hammer that, and don't even respond to the actual point.

So besides Jesus Christ, Gandhi and Mother Teresa, who is Left Winger?

It's not Stalin, Mao or Hitler cause they advocated limited government and individual liberty and that makes them right wing dictators, amiright?

Who? Lots of people.

You're trying to claim if you believe in limited govt then you are completely right wing, if you don't you're complete left wing huh?

Oh good, back to simple arguments made out of clouds and thin air.

View attachment 34486

^ limited government and individual liberty?

really?

Still need help with those definitions don't you dummy.

Tell me more about these "Definitions!"

You're so smart and intellectual!

Smart and intellectual? You make it easy to look that way by comparison.

Tell me more about right and left wing Professor!

That was already repeatedly explained to you on another thread, but you evidently have a serious comprehension problem.

 

[Unkotare]

Do you know so LITTLE about the USSR that you don't know they had voting?.

Oh yes, everyone was 'free' to vote for who they were damn well told to vote for. You should try reading a whole book once in a while, kid.

 

[westwall]

You guys are all funny. Let's take a look at what the Progressives of the era had to say about Hitler and Stalin. As you can see, progressives felt the same about BOTH fascism, and Soviet style socialism...

• H. G. Wells, one of the most influential progressives of the 20th century, said in 1932 that progressives must become “liberal fascists” and “enlightened Nazis.” Regarding totalitarianism, he stated: “I have never been able to escape altogether from its relentless logic.” Calling for a “‘Phoenix Rebirth’ of Liberalism” under the umbrella of “Liberal Fascism,” Wells said: “I am asking for a Liberal Fascisti, for enlightened Nazis.”

• The poet Wallace Stevens pronounced himself “pro-Mussolini personally.”

• The eminent historian Charles Beard wrote of Mussolini’s efforts: “Beyond question, an amazing experiment is being made [in Italy], an experiment in reconciling individualism and socialism.”

• Muckraking journalists almost universally admired Mussolini. Lincoln Steffens, for one, said that Italian fascism made Western democracy, by comparison, look like a system run by “petty persons with petty purposes.” Mussolini, Steffens proclaimed reverently, had been “formed” by God “out of the rib of Italy.”

• McClure’s Magazine founder Samuel McClure, an important figure in the muckraking movement, described Italian fascism as “a great step forward and the first new ideal in government since the founding of the American Republic.”

• After having vistited Italy and interviewed Mussolini in 1926, the American humorist Will Rogers, who was informally dubbed “Ambassador-at-Large of the United States” by the National Press Club, said of the fascist dictator: “I’m pretty high on that bird.” “Dictator form of government is the greatest form of government,” Rogers wrote, “that is, if you have the right dictator.”

• Reporter Ida Tarbell was deeply impressed by Mussolini's attitudes regarding labor, affectionately dubbing him “a despot with a dimple.”

• NAACP co-founder W. E. B. DuBois saw National Socialism as a worthy model for economic organization. The establishment of the Nazi dictatorship in Germany, he wrote, had been “absolutely necessary to get the state in order.” In 1937 DuBois stated: “there is today, in some respects, more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past.”

• FDR adviser Rexford Guy Tugwell said of Italian fascism: “It's the cleanest, neatest, most efficiently operating piece of social machinery I've ever seen. It makes me envious.”

• New Republic editor George Soule, who avidly supported FDR, noted approvingly that the Roosevelt administration was “trying out the economics of fascism.”

• Playwright George Bernard Shaw hailed Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini as the world’s great “progressive” leaders because they “did things,” unlike the leaders of those “putrefying corpses” called parliamentary democracies.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223


Progressives generally greeted the 1917 Bolshevik revolution in Russia with great enthusiasm, embracing it as a worthy effort to create a socialist utopia. In the 1920s and 1930s, a host of credulous progressive journalists traveled to Russia to chronicle the the revolution's afterglow, so as to inform Americans about the historic significance of what was transpiring there. According to author Jonah Goldberg: “Most liberals saw the Bolsheviks as a popular and progressive movement.... Nearly the entire liberal elite, including much of FDR's Brain Trust, made the pilgrimage to Moscow to take admiring notes on the Soviet experiment.”

One key contributor to this pro-Bolshevik genre was the communist journalist John Reed, author of Ten Days that Shook the World. Reed dismissed concerns about the Red Terror and the mass murder of non-Bolshevists by praising the killers of “this treacherous gang.” Said Reed: “To the wall with them! I say I have learned one mighty expressive word: ‘raztrellyat’ [sic] (execute by shooting).”

Similarly, the intellectual E.A. Ross excused the Bolsheviks' violent campaign of terror on the theory that they did not kill all that many people. (Estimates of the number of deaths by execution range from 50,000 to 200,000.)

Some journalists, like Pulitzer Prize winner Walter Duranty of The New York Times, engaged in deliberate lies to conceal the harsh realities of post-revolution Soviet life. In 1933, for instance, at the height of the Ukrainian famine (engineered by Stalin) during which millions starved to death, Duranty wrote that “village markets [were] flowing with eggs, fruit, poultry, vegetables, milk and butter.... A child can see this is not famine but abundance.”

A British journalist writing in the progressive periodical New Republic declared that the Bolsheviks “stand for rationalism, for an intelligent system of cultivation, for education, for an active ideal of cooperation and social service.”

Most leaders in the American labor movement – including Sidney Hillman and John L. Lewis – expressed deep admiration for “Soviet pragmatism,” Stalin’s “experiment,” and the “heroism” of the Bolsheviks.

Upon returning from Russia in 1921, the muckraking journalist Lincoln Steffens announced: “I've seen the future, and it works.”


http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1222

None the less you've still failed completely to decouple Fascists and Nazis from being defined as right wing. No amount of out of context quotes will change actual history.

Not really. Progressives felt they were the same. The way they treat their subjects is the same. In other words based on the actions of the governments and how they treat their people....THEY ARE THE SAME! And.....they all resorted to mass murder to do what the progressives wanted....which the progressives all supported. Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy...knowing you support a philosophy that resorts to mass murder every time to get it's way? Why do YOU want to kill so many people?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

Greenhouse emissions?

So stupid it hurts

What's so stupid is that someone writes a whole post and you pick up on one thing where you think there is a mistake and try and hammer that, and don't even respond to the actual point.

So besides Jesus Christ, Gandhi and Mother Teresa, who is Left Winger?

It's not Stalin, Mao or Hitler cause they advocated limited government and individual liberty and that makes them right wing dictators, amiright?

Who? Lots of people.

You're trying to claim if you believe in limited govt then you are completely right wing, if you don't you're complete left wing huh?

Oh good, back to simple arguments made out of clouds and thin air.

^ limited government and individual liberty?

really?

Still need help with those definitions don't you dummy.

Tell me more about these "Definitions!"

You're so smart and intellectual!

Smart and intellectual? You make it easy to look that way by comparison.

Tell me more about right and left wing Professor!

That was already repeatedly explained to you on another thread, but you evidently have a serious comprehension problem.

Explained? No. Just a bunch of insults

 

[frigidweirdo]

Do you know so LITTLE about the USSR that you don't know they had voting?.

Oh yes, everyone was 'free' to vote for who they were damn well told to vote for. You should try reading a whole book once in a while, kid.

I did not say the voting was democracy. I said they had voting. To which you and you're immense intelligence said "Fucking idiot".

Oh, all of a sudden you've changed tact.

You didn't want to admit you were wrong, so you go on the attack yet again. No debate, just more lack of understanding of what actually happened, but you're extremely quick to fire on those who do know what they're talking about.

So do I get an apology? I doubt it very much.

 

[thanatos144]

Stalin and the USSR was loved by the Koch family.

George Soros sold out Jews to Nazi death camps

Tapatalk

 

[thanatos144]

Both of these threads are fucking stupid.

Neither the left or right are like Hitler or Stalin.

Bush was bad, Republicans are bad, Obama is worse than Bush and Dems are bad but none are a dictator. Obama is flirting with the ever so minor Dictator like powers but still light years from an actual king.

Other countries might be "right" or "left" for themselves, but they in no way reflect the US. It's mentally retarded to say otherwise.

Over 50 million dead babies say otherwise

Tapatalk