Sudden Silence From All Those Biden/Afghanistan Defenders

[JoeB131]

Why the pointless whining? Where has Quid Pro Joe shown any inclination whatsoever to hang onto
our last base in Afghanistan?

He went in, in the middle of the night, and shut off electricity to our very useful airbase there
giving it away..

Why was it "useful". It was only useful because we committed to a perpetual occupation of a country that didn't want us there.

We didn't learn our lesson 50 years ago in Vietnam or 100 years ago in the Philippines.

He simply left tens of millions, if not more, in arms for the Taliban to take away and use
for their own.

So what? It was kind of stupid of Bush to give the Afghans all those weapons if you didn't know if they were going to switch sides.

He has left, by the State Department's own figuring, over nine thousand Americans and allies
to survive somehow on their own in hostile Talibanistan. When was the last time, if ever, that Joe even
pretended to acknowledge the people he stranded there?

You the people who chose to stay? First, any "Americans" over there had plenty of time to leave. As for our "allies"... fuck them. They should have fought harder.

Your bitching is perverse. It's that mentally disabled clown Joe Biden who presided over the
final end of US involvement there, though no one made him abruptly and abandon everything like
an evicted squatter.

Uh, dude, we were over there for 20 years. What were we going to accomplish in the next few weeks were hadn't in the previous 20?

 

[JoeB131]

And the hell of it is, you get your feelings hurt when someone correctly points out you sharing Nazi beliefs.

Some day, you might mature enough to realize screaming "Nazi" and "Communist" doesn't constitute debate.

 

[BlindBoo]

Why the pointless whining? Where has Quid Pro Joe shown any inclination whatsoever to hang onto
our last base in Afghanistan?

He went in, in the middle of the night, and shut off electricity to our very useful airbase there
giving it away..

He simply left tens of millions, if not more, in arms for the Taliban to take away and use
for their own.

He has left, by the State Department's own figuring, over nine thousand Americans and allies
to survive somehow on their own in hostile Talibanistan. When was the last time, if ever, that Joe even
pretended to acknowledge the people he stranded there?

Your bitching is perverse. It's that mentally disabled clown Joe Biden who presided over the
final end of US involvement there, though no one made him abruptly and abandon everything like
an evicted squatter.

The questions I have pertain to the situation leading up to and on Jan 15th, one week before Trump's term was up.

But to your point, the President relied on the best advice on the evacuation plan that our military could give. The Generals who made those plans and carried them our testified for hours about why those decisions were made.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The questions I have pertain to the situation leading up to and on Jan 15th, one week before Trump's term was up.

But to your point, the President relied on the best advice on the evacuation plan that our military could give. The Generals who made those plans and carried them our testified for hours about why those decisions were made.

They're really simple questions.
Why hide, every reader knows both the aswers and your fear of answering.



Who was President for the debacle???

And.....did the sitting President have any obligation to follow a plan by the preceding President?

Why did Biden screw it up so badly???


Why do you vote for failure and injury to America???

 

[BlindBoo]

Why did your Dear Leader Xiden ignore everything Trump negotiated

How could he? The Trump had already given away the kitchen. In fact, he cut the troop level a further 70% below the level he negotiated and left the US with just 2500 troops. Sure with about 20 to 25 thousand fresh bodies we could have started to take it all back. But that would mean combat not just radon suicide bombers.

Civilians have been caught in the middle of our ever increasing use of drones to remotely attack our suspected enemies. Every president since Clinton has increased their use and subsequently have increase the number of civilian causalities. One of the terrible lessons this 20 year occupation should teach us.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How could he? The Trump had already given away the kitchen. In fact, he cut the troop level a further 70% below the level he negotiated and left the US with just 2500 troops. Sure with about 20 to 25 thousand fresh bodies we could have started to take it all back. But that would mean combat not just radon suicide bombers.

Civilians have been caught in the middle of our ever increasing use of drones to remotely attack our suspected enemies. Every president since Clinton has increased their use and subsequently have increase the number of civilian causalities. One of the terrible lessons this 20 year occupation should teach us.

Speaking of "giving away".....here's what the Democrats awarded to the 7th century savages:


the Taliban seized way more ScanEagle drones than the government is saying they did. There is no accounting on the number of crashed units.

Direct Quote from Report
“This also raises concerns about how NAVAIR justified procuring 105 ScanEagle vehicles totaling over $32 million and spare parts totaling over $52 million, and future planned procurements.”

This week, the SIGAR audit on the $174 million drone loss disappeared from its website. Here is the link that was removed.

Here is a breakdown of estimated vehicle costs:

• Armored personnel carriers such as the M113A2 cost $170,000 each and recent purchases of the M577A2 post carrier cost $333,333 each.
• Mine resistant vehicles ranges from $412,000 to $767,000. The total cost could range between $382 million to $711 million.
• Recovery vehicles such as the ‘truck, wrecker’ cost between for the base model $168,960 and $880,674 for super strength versions.
• Medium range tactical vehicles include 5-ton cargo and general transport trucks were priced at $67,139. However, the family of MTV heavy vehicleshad prices ranging from $235,500 to $724,820 each. Cargo trucks to transport airplanes cost $800,865.
• Humvees – ambulance type (range from $37,943 to $142,918 with most at $96,466); cargo type, priced at $104,682. Utility Humvees were typically priced at $91,429. However, the 12,000 lb. troop transport version cost up to $329,000.
• Light tactical vehicles: Fast attack combat vehicles ($69,400); and passenger motor vehicles ($65,500). All terrain 4-wheel vehicles go up to $42,273 in the military databases.

UPDATE: Biden's Gift to Taliban Included 110 Helicopters, 20 Light Attack Airplanes, 42,000 Light Attack Vehicles, 25,000 Grenade Launchers​

If you thought the Joe Biden Afghanistan disaster was bad now – things are going to get much worse. Joe Biden supplied the Taliban terrorist organization and their Islamist accomplices with billions of dollars worth of US armaments. Rather than destroying the equipment before leaving the...

www.thegatewaypundit.com





Why do you Democrats insist on arming America's enemies????



Didn't give Iran enough money and weapons??????

 

[BlindBoo]

THOSE KIDS SHOUD BE HONORED PRESIDENT BIDEN NOTICED THEM

Right, BlindBoo?

Dave, Biden should certain do more to combat civilian causalities in our remote death machine.

Biden can reduce civilian casualties during US drone strikes. Here’s how. | Brookings

Sarah Kreps, Paul Lushenko, and Shyam Raman argue that the Biden administration should consider adopting a near certainty standard in undeclared theaters of operations, to prevent civilian casualties during counterterrorism strikes.

www.brookings.edu

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The questions I have pertain to the situation leading up to and on Jan 15th, one week before Trump's term was up.

But to your point, the President relied on the best advice on the evacuation plan that our military could give.

But was it really? Shutting down our airport, giving hundreds of millions of dollars of sophisticated weapons away to the Taliban?
Or did he shut off the lights and walk away from Afghanistan leaving the door wide open lest the
Taliban set off more bombs on his watch?

Did mentally impaired Joe really rely on the advice our generals game to him?
They don't agree with your partisan, fact free claim.


"Top military officials told lawmakers on Tuesday that they had recommended 2,500 U.S. troops remain in Afghanistan, contradicting comments made by President Biden earlier this year.
Gen. Frank McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command, and Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, each acknowledged during public congressional testimony that they agreed with the recommendation of Army Gen. Austin Miller that 2,500 troops be left in the country, though they denied to detail what they advised Biden directly."

Your lame lies are at odds with what our military stated to Congress. Why is that, do you think?

I mean why is that? And also, do you truly think and realize how your weak your claims are?

The Generals who made those plans and carried them our testified for hours about why those decisions were made.

Generals contradict Biden, say they advised leaving troops in Afghanistan

Top military officials told lawmakers on Tuesday that they had recommended 2,500 U.S. troops remain in Afghanistan, contradicting comments made by President Biden earlier this year.Gen. Frank McKen…

thehill.com

Joe started his presidency of with the sort of amazing incompetency we have come to expect from him.
You are still lying and covering for a mentally unfit grifter.

 

[PoliticalChic]

But was it really? Shutting down our airport, giving millions of dollars of sophisticated weapons away to
the Taliban?
Did mentally impaired Joe really rely on the advice our generals game to him?
They don't agree with your partisan, fact free claim.

Or did he shut off the lights and walk away from Afghanistan leaving the door wide open lest the
Taliban set off more bombs on his watch?

"Top military officials told lawmakers on Tuesday that they had recommended 2,500 U.S. troops remain in Afghanistan, contradicting comments made by President Biden earlier this year.
Gen. Frank McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command, and Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, each acknowledged during public congressional testimony that they agreed with the recommendation of Army Gen. Austin Miller that 2,500 troops be left in the country, though they denied to detail what they advised Biden directly."

Your lame lies are at odds with what our military stated to Congress. Why is that, do you think?

I mean why is that? And also, do you truly think and realize how your weak your claims are?

Generals contradict Biden, say they advised leaving troops in Afghanistan

Top military officials told lawmakers on Tuesday that they had recommended 2,500 U.S. troops remain in Afghanistan, contradicting comments made by President Biden earlier this year.Gen. Frank McKen…

thehill.com

They believe that lying is their birthright as Democrats.

 

[BlindBoo]

Speaking of "giving away".....here's what the Democrats awarded to the 7th century savages:


the Taliban seized way more ScanEagle drones than the government is saying they did. There is no accounting on the number of crashed units.

Direct Quote from Report
“This also raises concerns about how NAVAIR justified procuring 105 ScanEagle vehicles totaling over $32 million and spare parts totaling over $52 million, and future planned procurements.”

This week, the SIGAR audit on the $174 million drone loss disappeared from its website. Here is the link that was removed.

Here is a breakdown of estimated vehicle costs:

• Armored personnel carriers such as the M113A2 cost $170,000 each and recent purchases of the M577A2 post carrier cost $333,333 each.
• Mine resistant vehicles ranges from $412,000 to $767,000. The total cost could range between $382 million to $711 million.
• Recovery vehicles such as the ‘truck, wrecker’ cost between for the base model $168,960 and $880,674 for super strength versions.
• Medium range tactical vehicles include 5-ton cargo and general transport trucks were priced at $67,139. However, the family of MTV heavy vehicleshad prices ranging from $235,500 to $724,820 each. Cargo trucks to transport airplanes cost $800,865.
• Humvees – ambulance type (range from $37,943 to $142,918 with most at $96,466); cargo type, priced at $104,682. Utility Humvees were typically priced at $91,429. However, the 12,000 lb. troop transport version cost up to $329,000.
• Light tactical vehicles: Fast attack combat vehicles ($69,400); and passenger motor vehicles ($65,500). All terrain 4-wheel vehicles go up to $42,273 in the military databases.

UPDATE: Biden's Gift to Taliban Included 110 Helicopters, 20 Light Attack Airplanes, 42,000 Light Attack Vehicles, 25,000 Grenade Launchers​

If you thought the Joe Biden Afghanistan disaster was bad now – things are going to get much worse. Joe Biden supplied the Taliban terrorist organization and their Islamist accomplices with billions of dollars worth of US armaments. Rather than destroying the equipment before leaving the...

www.thegatewaypundit.com





Why do you Democrats insist on arming America's enemies????



Didn't give Iran enough money and weapons??????

How on earth did Biden send the Afghan Army all that. Or in hindsight, ya'll think he should have disabled all those weapons we gave the army we trained for 20 years for self defense against the Taliban?

With friends like ya'll who needs enemies.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

They believe that lying is their birthright as Democrats.

They have every right to that belief. It is demonstrated on a daily basis.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How on earth did Biden send the Afghan Army all that. Or in hindsight, ya'll think he should have disabled all those weapons we gave the army we trained for 20 years for self defense against the Taliban?

With friends like ya'll who needs enemies.

I know you are regularly exposed as low life lying scum, but are you now denying that the Democrats left all of the above to the savages???



Speak up, dunce.

 

[bendog]

But was it really? Shutting down our airport, giving hundreds of millions of dollars of sophisticated weapons away to the Taliban?
Or did he shut off the lights and walk away from Afghanistan leaving the door wide open lest the
Taliban set off more bombs on his watch?

Did mentally impaired Joe really rely on the advice our generals game to him?
They don't agree with your partisan, fact free claim.


"Top military officials told lawmakers on Tuesday that they had recommended 2,500 U.S. troops remain in Afghanistan, contradicting comments made by President Biden earlier this year.
Gen. Frank McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command, and Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, each acknowledged during public congressional testimony that they agreed with the recommendation of Army Gen. Austin Miller that 2,500 troops be left in the country, though they denied to detail what they advised Biden directly."

Your lame lies are at odds with what our military stated to Congress. Why is that, do you think?

I mean why is that? And also, do you truly think and realize how your weak your claims are?

Generals contradict Biden, say they advised leaving troops in Afghanistan

Top military officials told lawmakers on Tuesday that they had recommended 2,500 U.S. troops remain in Afghanistan, contradicting comments made by President Biden earlier this year.Gen. Frank McKen…

thehill.com

Joe started his presidency of with the sort of amazing incompetency we have come to expect from him.
You are still lying and covering for a mentally unfit grifter.

You are posting the generals desire to stay in Afgan forever. That's not the same thing as what they told Biden when he ordered them to plan for a total withdrawal. Which Trump and a maj of Americans also desired.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They have every right to that belief. It is demonstrated on a daily basis.

Lately there have been several explanations, centering on

"Mass Formation Psychosis. The Madness of Crowds. And The End Of Progressive America.



Hope in the midst of despair. But first, things will fall apart, so get ready.



"...from European intellectual inquiry as to what the heck happened in Germany..."



"...intelligent...highly educated population...went barking mad...."



"...the answer is mass formation psychosis....attention gets focused (by state media and government schooling) they become hypnotized and can be led anywhere...."



"...they will follow their leader it doesn't matter whether they lie to them.....data are irrelevant....anyone who questions the narrative is to be immediately attacked....they are 'the other'...





"....Mass Formation Psychosis...." the explanation for Democrat voting.

Mass Formation Psychosis. The Madness of Crowds. And The End Of Progressive America.

Hope in the midst of despair. But first, things will fall apart, so get ready.

legalinsurrection.com

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

How on earth did Biden send the Afghan Army all that. Or in hindsight, ya'll think he should have disabled all those weapons we gave the army we trained for 20 years for self defense against the Taliban?

Who says Biden sent any of that? I guess Joe forgot to take care of the arsenal he left behind
when he simply hurriedly left Afghanistan in the rear view mirror.
Did his generals advise Joe to simply drop everything and run away?
That's how it looks or maybe Joe simply ignored what his advisers told him?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/02/10/biden-afghanistan-evacuation-investigation/

Not the first time Joe has done that. Such "leadership."

With friends like ya'll who needs enemies.

With posts like yours who needs facts.

 

[BlindBoo]

Miller that 2,500 troops be left in the country, though they denied to detail what they advised Biden directly."

Your lame lies are at odds with what our military stated to Congress. Why is that, do you think?

Because you are still conflating the decision to get out and the plan to evacuate the remaining 2500 troops. When for whatever reason Trump ordered the complete evacuation by Jan 15, three and a half month early, he flip-flopped when the Military objected and agreed to that minimal number and passed the whole situation on without a plan for the final pull out of our 2500 troop and other allies. He left the hard decision to his better. and his better made the hard decision to get us out.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You are posting the generals desire to stay in Afgan forever. That's not the same thing as what they told Biden when he ordered them to plan for a total withdrawal. Which Trump and a maj of Americans also desired.

And you are posting lies that are easily checked by familiarizing yourself with the facts.
The generals claim, and their testimony before Congress confirms, that they advised him to keep
a small 250,000 personnel military presence in Afghanistan as part of the transitioning phase of leaving
that quick sand pit.

A force that would allow us to get our personnel out, retrieve our arms and decommission our airstrip.
The military force would be the last to leave. That's what our generals recommended before the
Taliban set a terrorist bomb off and Joe plotzed in his Depends and ignored his generals.

An early harbinger of Biden's style of leadership.

 

[bendog]

Because you are still conflating the decision to get out and the plan to evacuate the remaining 2500 troops. When for whatever reason Trump ordered the complete evacuation by Jan 15, three and a half month early, he flip-flopped when the Military objected and agreed to that minimal number and passed the whole situation on without a plan for the final pull out of our 2500 troop and other allies. He left the hard decision to his better. and his better made the hard decision to get us out.

I really wonder what nimrods postulated the entire afghan army would not vanish when a pull out of the last 2500 commenced. The Generals were not wrong that a total withdrawl would be a victory for the Taliban, but that's precisely what Trump negotiated with the Taliban .... And most of us agreed.

 

[bendog]

And you are posting lies that are easily checked by familiarizing yourself with the facts.
The generals claim, and their testimony before Congress confirms, that they advised him to keep
a small 250,000 personnel military presence in Afghanistan as part of the transitioning phase of leaving
that quick sand pit.

A force that would allow us to get our personnel out, retrieve our arms and decommission our airstrip.
The military force would be the last to leave. That's what our generals recommended before the
Taliban set a terrorist bomb off and Joe plotzed in his Depends and ignored his generals.

An early harbinger of Biden's style of leadership.

What number are you spitting out there. LOL

 

[BlindBoo]

I guess Joe forgot to take care of the arsenal he left behind
when he simply hurriedly left Afghanistan in the rear view mirror.

Well speaking of taking care of the Army we left behind, the Surrender Accords called for the complete evacuation of the US trained Technicians who maintained their US made equipment. What deal maker!

Did his generals advise Joe to simply drop everything and run away?

Uniformed as ever. Of course they advised him that they could most defiantly take the entire country back from the Taliban, with enough bodies. He told them no. Then the told them to get him some workable plans to get us out. It was either that or go back to combat when the truce expired. Nobody wanted that.