Summing Up The News.....

[PoliticalChic]

Lots of names, lots of 'facts,'......lots of 'fake news.'

The hermeneutic key that puts all of it in perspective, is the following:

"... this city’s hatred for President Trump, and its fanatic determination to bring him down in disgrace, predates his presidency.

For Trump ran in 2016 not simply as the Republican alternative. He presented his candidacy as a rejection, a repudiation of the failed elites, political and media, of both parties. Americans voted in 2016 not just for a change in leaders but for a revolution to overthrow a ruling regime.



Thus, this city has never reconciled itself to Trump’s victory, and the president daily rubs their noses in their defeat with his tweets.

Seeking a rationale for its rejection, this city has seized upon that old standby. We didn’t lose! The election was stolen in a vast conspiracy, an “act of war” against America, an assault upon “our democracy,” criminal collusion between the Kremlin and the Trumpites.



If Trump is brought down on the basis of what Putin correctly labels “nonsense,” this city will have executed a nonviolent coup against a constitutionally elected president.

Such an act would drop us into the company of those Third World nations where such means are the customary ways that corrupt elites retain their hold on power."
http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/the-impeach-trump-conspiracy/

 

[PoliticalChic]

The OP, above, state the 'why'....
....here's the 'who'.....



"Former FBI Director, now special prosecutor, Robert Mueller has added Andrew Weissmann to the prosecution team investigating allegations of the Trump Administration's "collusion" with Russia.

Mr. Weissmann's real record as a "special prosecutor" is so egregious that Mr. Mueller's decision to choose his former counsel Weissmann should cause concern for anyone with even a passing interest in truth and justice.

....prosecutorial misconduct obviously calculated to win at any cost, Weissmann helped rewrite crucial jury instructions defining the "crime" and the intent required.

Three years later, a unanimous Supreme Court reversed the conviction. All the justices agreed that Andersen's conduct was not a crime,..."
Lawyer Sidney Powell: Prosecutor's Record Destroys Credibility of Mueller Probe

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why would you put the word "news" and then a link from WND in the same post?

But it is sort of cute to see someone link to WND and then talk about fake news! That is like harvey weinstein bitching about someone else sexually harassing people.

 

[NightFox]

If Trump is brought down on the basis of what Putin correctly labels “nonsense,” this city will have executed a nonviolent coup against a constitutionally elected president.

That's the nature of the state, it's an organism whose highest priority is to defend and expand its power, either the Donald will tow the line and become an instrument of the state or the state will do everything within its power to eliminate whatever threat he might pose.

It's hard to say which way it'll turn out but history suggests that very few individuals sent to Washington ever come back without having become the thing that they claimed to detest when they were first sent there; so good luck Donny , you're going to need it.

"The State always moves slowly and grudgingly towards any purpose that accrues to society's advantage, but moves rapidly and with alacrity towards one that accrues to its own advantage; nor does it ever move towards social purposes on its own initiative, but only under heavy pressure, while its motion towards anti-social purposes is self-sprung." -- Albert Jay Nock, Our Enemy The State

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why would you put the word "news" and then a link from WND in the same post?

But it is sort of cute to see someone link to WND and then talk about fake news! That is like harvey weinstein bitching about someone else sexually harassing people.

I'm certainly not the first to remind all that those who cannot dispute the facts.....FACTS...presented, attempt to scoff at the source.



The subtext, of course,is that the message from that source irritated those of your perspective.


Excellent.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why would you put the word "news" and then a link from WND in the same post?

But it is sort of cute to see someone link to WND and then talk about fake news! That is like harvey weinstein bitching about someone else sexually harassing people.

I'm certainly not the first to remind all that those who cannot dispute the facts.....FACTS...presented, attempt to scoff at the source.



The subtext, of course,is that the message from that source irritated those of your perspective.


Excellent.

If the OP had some facts, I would be happy to dispute them. It is just some persons opinion. And then the 2nd post implies that Weissmann was the reason that the Enron case got tossed when in reality the SCOTUS said it was because of the judge's actions. But you assume that people will not open your links and will just take your lies at face value.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why would you put the word "news" and then a link from WND in the same post?

But it is sort of cute to see someone link to WND and then talk about fake news! That is like harvey weinstein bitching about someone else sexually harassing people.

I'm certainly not the first to remind all that those who cannot dispute the facts.....FACTS...presented, attempt to scoff at the source.



The subtext, of course,is that the message from that source irritated those of your perspective.


Excellent.

If the OP had some facts, I would be happy to dispute them. It is just some persons opinion. And then the 2nd post implies that Weissmann was the reason that the Enron case got tossed when in reality the SCOTUS said it was because of the judge's actions. But you assume that people will not open your links and will just take your lies at face value.

Fact:

"If Trump is brought down on the basis of what Putin correctly labels “nonsense,” this city will have executed a nonviolent coup against a constitutionally elected president.

Such an act would drop us into the company of those Third World nations where such means are the customary ways that corrupt elites retain their hold on power."
The impeach-Trump conspiracy



Fact:

The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are Democrats.

Hence....the first fact above.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why would you put the word "news" and then a link from WND in the same post?

But it is sort of cute to see someone link to WND and then talk about fake news! That is like harvey weinstein bitching about someone else sexually harassing people.

I'm certainly not the first to remind all that those who cannot dispute the facts.....FACTS...presented, attempt to scoff at the source.



The subtext, of course,is that the message from that source irritated those of your perspective.


Excellent.

If the OP had some facts, I would be happy to dispute them. It is just some persons opinion. And then the 2nd post implies that Weissmann was the reason that the Enron case got tossed when in reality the SCOTUS said it was because of the judge's actions. But you assume that people will not open your links and will just take your lies at face value.

Fact:

"If Trump is brought down on the basis of what Putin correctly labels “nonsense,” this city will have executed a nonviolent coup against a constitutionally elected president.

Such an act would drop us into the company of those Third World nations where such means are the customary ways that corrupt elites retain their hold on power."
The impeach-Trump conspiracy



Fact:

The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are Democrats.

Hence,,,,the first fact above.

People often confuse facts with opinion, I blame our crappy education system. What you posted is one man's (or maybe a woman's) opinion and has nothing to do with "facts".

The only "fact" in that statement is that Putin called something "nonsense"

 

[Mac1958]

People often confuse facts with opinion, I blame our crappy education system.

Therein lies a significant problem, too many people who can no longer (or refuse to) distinguish between the two.

Too many similarities between politics and pro wrestling for my tastes.
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[PoliticalChic]

Why would you put the word "news" and then a link from WND in the same post?

But it is sort of cute to see someone link to WND and then talk about fake news! That is like harvey weinstein bitching about someone else sexually harassing people.

I'm certainly not the first to remind all that those who cannot dispute the facts.....FACTS...presented, attempt to scoff at the source.



The subtext, of course,is that the message from that source irritated those of your perspective.


Excellent.

If the OP had some facts, I would be happy to dispute them. It is just some persons opinion. And then the 2nd post implies that Weissmann was the reason that the Enron case got tossed when in reality the SCOTUS said it was because of the judge's actions. But you assume that people will not open your links and will just take your lies at face value.

Fact:

"If Trump is brought down on the basis of what Putin correctly labels “nonsense,” this city will have executed a nonviolent coup against a constitutionally elected president.

Such an act would drop us into the company of those Third World nations where such means are the customary ways that corrupt elites retain their hold on power."
The impeach-Trump conspiracy



Fact:

The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are Democrats.

Hence,,,,the first fact above.

People often confuse facts with opinion, I blame our crappy education system. What you posted is one man's (or maybe a woman's) opinion and has nothing to do with "facts".

The only "fact" in that statement is that Putin called something "nonsense"

Is this a fact?

The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are the Democrats.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How about this: "To know what the Left is guilty of, notice what they are blaming on the other side."

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Is this a fact?

The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are the Democrats.

No, it is not. 'colluded", "conspired" and "bribed" are all opinion of what took place.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

How about this: "To know what the Left is guilty of, notice what they are blaming on the other side."

How about this...To know what the Right is guilty of, notice what they are blaming on the other side".

See, here is the deal. Both sides are dirty and rotten and neither give a rats ass about you, I or the country. All they care about is power for their "side". And they keep parading one shiny object after another in front of us to keep us fighting each other. One thing that is a fact is that a divided people are much easier to control.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Is this a fact?

The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are the Democrats.

No, it is not. 'colluded", "conspired" and "bribed" are all opinion of what took place.

Me: Is this a fact?

The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are the Democrats.


You: No, it is not. 'colluded", "conspired" and "bribed" are all opinion of what took place.



Let's check:
1. There is zero evidence that of any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

There are scads of evidence of collusion between the media and the DNC, and there is this:
The only folks with a close relationship with the Russians are Democrats.
The names Clinton and Podesta come to mind.

2. "52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe"
52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe - Rasmussen Reports™


Here's why:
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
The first Republican President


And this:
3. "Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

...the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

....major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons,...."
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html


And

4. "Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin"
Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin » Liberty Alliance

And

5. "EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank"
EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank


6. News anchor highlights all of the known links to Russia



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Democrat collusion???


7. "Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador’s House

Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.) used a personal foundation to pay for a dinner she attended at Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak's Washington, D.C., residence. The senator had failed to disclose her role in the foundation until earlier this month.


McCaskill came under fire this March after she told the Washington Post she never had a "call or meeting" with Kislyak even though she had publicly announced both a call and meeting with him. This week, CNN reportedthat McCaskill also attended a black-tie reception at Kislyak's D.C. residence in November 2015.


McCaskill's attendance at the dinner was accompanied by an $873 payment to the American-Russian Cultural Cooperation Foundation, where Kislyak serves on its board of directors as honorary chairman."

Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador's House



8. Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work

...the powerful Washington lobbying firm run by Clinton ally Tony Podesta filed a document admitting its work for the pro-Russia European Centre for a Modern Ukraine may have principally benefited a foreign government. New disclosures revealed dozens of previously unreported interactions the firm made with influential government offices, including Hillary Clinton's State Department and the office of former Vice President Joe Biden, while lobbying on behalf of the center. Embattled ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort failed to disclose his extensive lobbying efforts on behalf of the center at the time as well.

How do you say 'whoops' in Russian? Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work





9. The ONLY ones with any collusion with Russia are Democrats.
The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.
And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing, to be President.


10. The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are Democrats.



I fervently await a similarly well documented exposition from you, for your position.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How about this: "To know what the Left is guilty of, notice what they are blaming on the other side."

How about this...To know what the Right is guilty of, notice what they are blaming on the other side".

See, here is the deal. Both sides are dirty and rotten and neither give a rats ass about you, I or the country. All they care about is power for their "side". And they keep parading one shiny object after another in front of us to keep us fighting each other. One thing that is a fact is that a divided people are much easier to control.

Only one side has been found to have colluded with, conspired with, been bribed by Russia/Putin/the Kremlin: Democrats.


Yet the very same criminals have manipulated the system and been named arbiters of guilt:

"Damning new evidence appears to show that Hillary Clinton used her office as Secretary of State to confer benefits to Russia in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her foundation and cash to her husband.

But there’s more. It seems it was all covered up for years by the same three people who are now involved in the investigation of President Donald Trump over so-called Russian “collusion.”

The corrupt scheme is said to have been financed by the Russians through bribes, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering. The FBI and the Department of Justice reportedly had the evidence in their possession before the uranium sale, but kept the matter secret ...


..... the people who were in charge of the investigation and who knew of its explosive impact. Who are they?

....Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during the time of the Russian uranium probe, and so was his successor James Comey who took over in 2013 as the FBI was still developing the case. Rod Rosenstein, then-U.S. Attorney....

Holder, Mueller, Comey & Rosenstein"
Gregg Jarrett: The Clinton cover-up, brought to you by the same guys who are investigating Trump




Now we have the second explanation for the "Trump Colluded With Russia" fabrication



The first is to assuage the Hillary loss....


The second...and more important....to camouflage the fact that every major Democrat elite was both knowledgeable and a participant in the corruption: Muller, Comey and Rosenstein knew and probably wet their beaks in the payoffs.




Sooooo......the entire Trump investigation was simply to misdirect the public away from the real colluders.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

10. The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are Democrats.



I fervently await a similarly well documented exposition from you, for your position.

Once these charges have been proven in court and not in the media, come talk to me. Till then they are all just opinion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

10. The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are Democrats.



I fervently await a similarly well documented exposition from you, for your position.

Once these charges have been proven in court and not in the media, come talk to me. Till then they are all just opinion.

So we can agree that you are not able to prove a well constructed exposition?


Exactly as expected.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

10. The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....

...are Democrats.



I fervently await a similarly well documented exposition from you, for your position.

Once these charges have been proven in court and not in the media, come talk to me. Till then they are all just opinion.

So we can agree that you are not able to prove a well constructed exposition?


Exactly as expected.

I have no need to try and change your opinion, we live in a free country and you are welcome to it.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Yeah, this whole thing isnt about Russia and protecting our democracy from an enemy state. This is about taking down Trump because some shadowy reasons.

But if that was the case why would Trump and Co lie so much about innocent things?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yeah, this whole thing isnt about Russia and protecting our democracy from an enemy state. This is about taking down Trump because some shadowy reasons.

But if that was the case why would Trump and Co lie so much about innocent things?

The problem here is that there is nobody from either side that is not dirty. Trump and Clinton are two sides of the same coin.