Supreme Court Blocks Unfair Voter ID Laws

[g5000]

Now watch Republicans scream about a politicized Supreme Court.

Democratic Effort Boosted as Courts Block Voter ID Laws - Bloomberg

Explain how in the hell does having to show an ID to vote prevent anyone from voting that legally can vote?
And if it was your intention to vote that election cycle you should have already registered

If you don't have a suitable ID, or if the government specifically targets your ID so that it can't be used for voting, then you can't vote. Take....Texas. They no longer accept Student ID as valid identification for voting, despite the identification being issued by the State of Texas. But they now accept a gun license for voting. Why? They don't want students voting. And they do want gun owners voting.

There is virtually no in person voter fraud, the only kind of fraud that voter ID could possibly prevent. In the last 10 years Texas could find 2, that's right 2 cases of in person voter fraud that their voter ID laws could prevent. And please note that this is a state that has no problem with roughly 4% innocence rate in executions.

There is not way people can function without an ID
Can't buy your prescription without one You can't drive without one Can't cash a check without one Some items require ID
People have been arrested for failure to produce an ID.

Apples and Oranges Fallacy

False Premise Fallacy

I can demonstrate the only way to prove you are old enough to drink beer is to require ID. You cannot demonstrate the only way to prevent or stop the types of fraud which occur is Voter ID. No one, including you, ever has despite my repeated requests for such evidence.

After Voter ID is passed in a state, do you think the requests for ID go up or stay the same? Have you ever even bothered to ask yourself that question? Probably not.

If there is a surge in requests for ID, then that indicates there ARE people who are walking around without the necessary ID.

The Supreme Court found that there are a lot of people in Wisconsin who do have the required ID who would have to get one because of the law.

Therefore, your entire belief system is based on a false premise and umpteen other logical fallacies.

Thank you for playing.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Now watch Republicans scream about a politicized Supreme Court.

Democratic Effort Boosted as Courts Block Voter ID Laws - Bloomberg

Explain how in the hell does having to show an ID to vote prevent anyone from voting that legally can vote?
And if it was your intention to vote that election cycle you should have already registered

If you don't have a suitable ID, or if the government specifically targets your ID so that it can't be used for voting, then you can't vote. Take....Texas. They no longer accept Student ID as valid identification for voting, despite the identification being issued by the State of Texas. But they now accept a gun license for voting. Why? They don't want students voting. And they do want gun owners voting.

There is virtually no in person voter fraud, the only kind of fraud that voter ID could possibly prevent. In the last 10 years Texas could find 2, that's right 2 cases of in person voter fraud that their voter ID laws could prevent. And please note that this is a state that has no problem with roughly 4% innocence rate in executions.

There is not way people can function without an ID
Can't buy your prescription without one You can't drive without one Can't cash a check without one Some items require ID
People have been arrested for failure to produce an ID.

Apples and Oranges Fallacy

I can demonstrate the only way to prove you are old enough to drink beer is to require ID. You cannot demonstrate the only way to prevent or stop the types of fraud which occur is Voter ID.

After Voter ID is passed in a state, do you think the requests for ID go up or stay the same? Have you ever even bothered to ask yourself that question? Probably not.

If there is a surge in requests for ID, then that indicates there ARE people who are walking around without the necessary ID.

The Supreme Court found that there are a lot of people in Wisconsin who do have the required ID who would have to get one because of the law.

Therefore, your entire belief system is based on a false premise and umpteen other logical fallacies.

Thank you for playing.

Assumptions are irrelevant Thanks for playing into my hand.

 

[g5000]

Now watch Republicans scream about a politicized Supreme Court.

Democratic Effort Boosted as Courts Block Voter ID Laws - Bloomberg

Explain how in the hell does having to show an ID to vote prevent anyone from voting that legally can vote?
And if it was your intention to vote that election cycle you should have already registered

If you don't have a suitable ID, or if the government specifically targets your ID so that it can't be used for voting, then you can't vote. Take....Texas. They no longer accept Student ID as valid identification for voting, despite the identification being issued by the State of Texas. But they now accept a gun license for voting. Why? They don't want students voting. And they do want gun owners voting.

There is virtually no in person voter fraud, the only kind of fraud that voter ID could possibly prevent. In the last 10 years Texas could find 2, that's right 2 cases of in person voter fraud that their voter ID laws could prevent. And please note that this is a state that has no problem with roughly 4% innocence rate in executions.

There is not way people can function without an ID
Can't buy your prescription without one You can't drive without one Can't cash a check without one Some items require ID
People have been arrested for failure to produce an ID.

Apples and Oranges Fallacy

I can demonstrate the only way to prove you are old enough to drink beer is to require ID. You cannot demonstrate the only way to prevent or stop the types of fraud which occur is Voter ID.

After Voter ID is passed in a state, do you think the requests for ID go up or stay the same? Have you ever even bothered to ask yourself that question? Probably not.

If there is a surge in requests for ID, then that indicates there ARE people who are walking around without the necessary ID.

The Supreme Court found that there are a lot of people in Wisconsin who do have the required ID who would have to get one because of the law.

Therefore, your entire belief system is based on a false premise and umpteen other logical fallacies.

Thank you for playing.

Assumptions are irrelevant Thanks for playing into my hand.

You, nor anyone else, has ever proven Voter ID is the only way to stop or prevent the types of fraud which occur, despite my requesting such evidence in every Voter ID topic for years now. Therefore, your beer ID comparison is an Apples and Oranges Fallacy.

Your belief that everyone already has the necessary Voter ID is also untrue. Therefore, your argument is based on a False Premise Fallacy.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Discombobulated]

Aw, man. You just woke up the Voter ID tards. Here we go again.

Let 'em gripe......that's all they're good for any way.

At least we are on the correct side not the idiots like you who support everything un American and immoral. IDIOTS!!!!!

You evidently didn't understand the decision, your point of view is obviously not constitutional.....therefore you're not on the correct side of anything.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Explain how in the hell does having to show an ID to vote prevent anyone from voting that legally can vote?
And if it was your intention to vote that election cycle you should have already registered

If you don't have a suitable ID, or if the government specifically targets your ID so that it can't be used for voting, then you can't vote. Take....Texas. They no longer accept Student ID as valid identification for voting, despite the identification being issued by the State of Texas. But they now accept a gun license for voting. Why? They don't want students voting. And they do want gun owners voting.

There is virtually no in person voter fraud, the only kind of fraud that voter ID could possibly prevent. In the last 10 years Texas could find 2, that's right 2 cases of in person voter fraud that their voter ID laws could prevent. And please note that this is a state that has no problem with roughly 4% innocence rate in executions.

There is not way people can function without an ID
Can't buy your prescription without one You can't drive without one Can't cash a check without one Some items require ID
People have been arrested for failure to produce an ID.

Apples and Oranges Fallacy

I can demonstrate the only way to prove you are old enough to drink beer is to require ID. You cannot demonstrate the only way to prevent or stop the types of fraud which occur is Voter ID.

After Voter ID is passed in a state, do you think the requests for ID go up or stay the same? Have you ever even bothered to ask yourself that question? Probably not.

If there is a surge in requests for ID, then that indicates there ARE people who are walking around without the necessary ID.

The Supreme Court found that there are a lot of people in Wisconsin who do have the required ID who would have to get one because of the law.

Therefore, your entire belief system is based on a false premise and umpteen other logical fallacies.

Thank you for playing.

Assumptions are irrelevant Thanks for playing into my hand.

You, nor anyone else, has ever proven Voter ID is the only way to stop or prevent the types of fraud which occur, despite my requesting such evidence in every Voter ID topic for years now. Therefore, your beer ID comparison is an Apples and Oranges Fallacy.

Your belief that everyone has the necessary ID already is also untrue. Therefore, your argument is based on a False Premise Fallacy.

Thanks for playing.

It doesn't matter this will make sure no one votes more than once. Your assumption and whining is noted.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I need an id to
Drink
Smoke
Get welfare
Sign up for electric, water, etc
Buy a house, car, etc

What is so wrong with having your id on hand??? Don't blacks drink and own things???

 

[g5000]

It doesn't matter this will make sure no one votes more than once. Your assumption and whining is noted.

Nope. People have still been found voting more than once in Voter ID states. You seem to be intellectually incapable of grasping the fact that Voter ID has not stopped the types of fraud which occur.

This phenomenon you are experiencing of refusing to accept reality because it would shatter your beliefs is a common one. I understand your pain.

 

[sameech]

I don't see how ending same day registration or requiring an ID disenfranchises anyone who wants to vote. My concern is that what happens is that groups on any side could decide they are down and go out starting to round up votes (pay for them?) to pack certain precincts based on exit polling data. The fate of society should not rest in the hands of poor people who cannot manage to obtain an application to vote despite those things being available so readily.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“There is not way people can function without an ID Can't buy your prescription without one You can't drive without one Can't cash a check without one Some items require ID People have been arrested for failure to produce an ID.”


As already correctly noted, this fails as a false comparison fallacy.

There is no Constitutional right to buy a prescription, drive a car, or cash a check.

There is, however, a Constitutional right to vote. And when the state creates an undue burden to the fundamental right to vote, such as 'voter ID' laws, absent a rational basis, objective, documented evidence in support, and pursuant to a proper legislative end, the courts are going to invalidate such laws.

 

[Skylar]

There is not way people can function without an ID

That's what you say. Ask Jim Kramer's Dad if that's the case:

I have a problem. My dad, a vet, won't be allowed to vote in Pa. because he does not drive, he is elderly, and can't prove his citizenship.

Jim Kramer

Jim Cramer On Voter ID Laws My Dad A Vet Won t Be Allowed To Vote UPDATE

And the bastion of lliberal oppression known as the AARP takes a very similar view:

Having a driver's license or photo identification card is commonplace for most Americans, but about 11 percent of adult citizens — more than 21 million people — lack a valid, government-issued photo ID, according to a study by the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law.

Voter Photo ID Laws Hit Older Americans Hard - Voting Rights - AARP

You say it can't be done. Lots of people do it.

 

[mamooth]

The Texas judge was particularly accurate and brutal with his honesty.

Federal Court Strikes Down Texas Voter ID Law - NBC News
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U.S. District Court Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos wrote in an opinion released Thursday evening that “There has been a clear and disturbing pattern of discrimination in the name of combatting voter fraud in Texas,” and that the state hadn’t demonstrated that such fraud was widespread.

Gonzales said the evidence showed the proponents of the law “were motivated, at the very least in part, because of and not merely in spite of the voter ID law’s detrimental effects on the African-American and Hispanic electorate.”
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[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I'll say this slowly.

If you support back ground checks to buy guns but scream bloody murder about voter ID

or

You support Back ground checks to buy guns but abhor the idea of voter ID, you are simply too stupid to matter.

They are two sides of the same coin.....

 

[Billy000]

So you two dumbasses support voter fraud?

God your stupidity knows no bounds.

 

[Billy000]

Why is it so hard for USMB republicans to believe that republican officials are deliberately trying to suppress voters? It's shit like this that explains why you people are dumb enough to vote republican.

 

[Discombobulated]

Funny to watch Republicans pretend as though they are all about fundamental fairness and not at all interested in disenfranchising people they disagree with. Fucking hilarious.

 

[mikegriffith1]

So you two dumbasses support voter fraud?

What voter fraud?

And the earth is flat, right? You really don't know about the problem of voter fraud?

 

[mikegriffith1]

Now watch Republicans scream about a politicized Supreme Court.

Democratic Effort Boosted as Courts Block Voter ID Laws - Bloomberg

 

[mikegriffith1]

One, if you read the article, it notes that the Supreme Court has ruled on both sides of this issue. Several state voter ID laws remain intact.

Two, it boils down to this: Democrats are more concerned about making it as easy as possible for the least educated, least successful citizens to be able to vote than they are about ensuring clean elections. If a few hundred or thousands of fraudulent votes get cast, that's no big deal to them, as long as the least educated and poorest among us get to vote. Why? Because the two lowest income brackets vote heavily Democratic.

In the 2012 election, high-school droputs voted for Obama by a margin of 2 to 1. Great. Just great.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It doesn't matter this will make sure no one votes more than once. Your assumption and whining is noted.

Nope. People have still been found voting more than once in Voter ID states. You seem to be intellectually incapable of grasping the fact that Voter ID has not stopped the types of fraud which occur.

This phenomenon you are experiencing of refusing to accept reality because it would shatter your beliefs is a common one. I understand your pain.

proof need it or you're just ass suming

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Funny to watch Republicans pretend as though they are all about fundamental fairness and not at all interested in disenfranchising people they disagree with. Fucking hilarious.

We can't allow Republicans to vote more than once you should support this, and your talking point page has some new revisions maybe you should check headquarters and get the new batch.