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The House has two cases which have been combined into one. That's Trump v. Mazars. The House is seeking Trump's tax records so they can investigate Michael Cohen's claims that Trump lied about the values of his assets with insurance companies and the IRS. That is why Admiral Rockwell Tory's notion that Trump's FEC filings should be enough is so patently ridiculous and exposes his ignorance.What are they investigating, then? In simple terms.Nope. Not even close. You clearly do not understand the nature of the investigations.His financial statements to the FEC should be sufficient.What would it hurt to release the records. You want to be elected every last aspect of your finances should be made public.
The second House investigation is into Deutche Bank and Capital One laundering money, with Trump participating in the scheme. The House is seeking the records of those banks. These are the "third parties" you keep hearing references to in the arguments today. Trump is trying to block Congress from accessing the banks' records.
Finally, there is a third investigation, Trump v. Vance. That is a case by the state of New York which is investigating Trump's payoffs to McDougal and Daniels. They want access to Trump's tax records.
funny as hell you didnt bother to read it:Lol. I got to hand it to that guy he doesn't even know that the founders did not even have any idea of tax returns. That's just funny as hell.Once reason is Trump keeps promoting his businesses while in public office.What you fail to see is the difference between a private citizen and a politician with executive powers. Except for Trump, everybody running for president since the 1970's has released their tax returns. All presidents since the 1970's except for Trump has put their assets into a blind trust.I would like every poster who feels it is imperative to see Trumps tax records to post theirs here. There is no legal requirement for you to do so you have done nothing illegal as far as we know even so if you have nothing to hide no reason not to post them that is logic being used for wanting to see Trumps. I look forward to seeing people put their records where their mouth is except they won’t.
This was to ensure that their political decisions would not be based on personal financial gain.
There is no current law that requires a presidential candidate to release their taxes. So in that regard there is no difference between a private citizen or a politician running for office. Until that changes, then no one running needs to be required to show their taxes.
Now, Congress has a wide latitude on subpoenas however the issue in front of the Supreme Court is asking a third party to turnover documents pertaining to activity of a President, prior to them becoming President. This would seem like Congress is making a power grab and asking for information outside of their powers. We will see what happens but this could maybe be a 7-2 decision in favor of Trump.
I've seen Trumps returns and so should you.
Law professor says founders would have wanted his returns released.
It's not about tax returns. It's about have too much power that the president cannot be investigated, because he could be susceptible to blackmail, therefore obligated to make bad decisions on our behalf. That is what the founders argued, and were quite right to worry about that, because Trump has become their prime candidate for blackmail.Lol. I got to hand it to that guy he doesn't even know that the founders did not even have any idea of tax returns. That's just funny as hell.Once reason is Trump keeps promoting his businesses while in public office.What you fail to see is the difference between a private citizen and a politician with executive powers. Except for Trump, everybody running for president since the 1970's has released their tax returns. All presidents since the 1970's except for Trump has put their assets into a blind trust.I would like every poster who feels it is imperative to see Trumps tax records to post theirs here. There is no legal requirement for you to do so you have done nothing illegal as far as we know even so if you have nothing to hide no reason not to post them that is logic being used for wanting to see Trumps. I look forward to seeing people put their records where their mouth is except they won’t.
This was to ensure that their political decisions would not be based on personal financial gain.
There is no current law that requires a presidential candidate to release their taxes. So in that regard there is no difference between a private citizen or a politician running for office. Until that changes, then no one running needs to be required to show their taxes.
Now, Congress has a wide latitude on subpoenas however the issue in front of the Supreme Court is asking a third party to turnover documents pertaining to activity of a President, prior to them becoming President. This would seem like Congress is making a power grab and asking for information outside of their powers. We will see what happens but this could maybe be a 7-2 decision in favor of Trump.
I've seen Trumps returns and so should you.
Law professor says founders would have wanted his returns released.
Before he was president, he was engaging in tax evasion and campaign finance violations just to get elected, and did not report that money. Cohen went to jail by helping Trump accomplish that goal. That proves that we as voters got robbed of a free and fair election. Trump committed federal crimes. He has also paid stiff fines for bogus universities and stealing money from charities. Trump is a proven criminal. He can also be indicted for obstruction of justice when he leaves office. The fact that any human being can defend someone like that, tells me him or her are no better than Trump.The House has two cases which have been combined into one. That's Trump v. Mazars. The House is seeking Trump's tax records so they can investigate Michael Cohen's claims that Trump lied about the values of his assets with insurance companies and the IRS. That is why Admiral Rockwell Tory's notion that Trump's FEC filings should be enough is so patently ridiculous and exposes his ignorance.What are they investigating, then? In simple terms.Nope. Not even close. You clearly do not understand the nature of the investigations.His financial statements to the FEC should be sufficient.What would it hurt to release the records. You want to be elected every last aspect of your finances should be made public.
The second House investigation is into Deutche Bank and Capital One laundering money, with Trump participating in the scheme. The House is seeking the records of those banks. These are the "third parties" you keep hearing references to in the arguments today. Trump is trying to block Congress from accessing the banks' records.
Finally, there is a third investigation, Trump v. Vance. That is a case by the state of New York which is investigating Trump's payoffs to McDougal and Daniels. They want access to Trump's tax records.
So let me ask you, what did you think of Sotomeyer’s questions surrounding her believing Congress might be out of bounds with the President because the President does not have the documents and that this is investigating the President, before he was President and it has no legislative value?
The NY case I think has some merit, no so sure on the Congressional cases.
Before he was president, he was engaging in tax evasion and campaign finance violations just to get elected, and did not report that money. Cohen went to jail by helping Trump accomplish that goal. That proves that we as voters got robbed of a free and fair election. Trump committed federal crimes. He has also paid stiff fines for bogus universities and stealing money from charities. Trump is a proven criminal. He can also be indicted for obstruction of justice when he leaves office. The fact that any human being can defend someone like that, tells me him or her are no better than Trump.The House has two cases which have been combined into one. That's Trump v. Mazars. The House is seeking Trump's tax records so they can investigate Michael Cohen's claims that Trump lied about the values of his assets with insurance companies and the IRS. That is why Admiral Rockwell Tory's notion that Trump's FEC filings should be enough is so patently ridiculous and exposes his ignorance.What are they investigating, then? In simple terms.Nope. Not even close. You clearly do not understand the nature of the investigations.His financial statements to the FEC should be sufficient.What would it hurt to release the records. You want to be elected every last aspect of your finances should be made public.
The second House investigation is into Deutche Bank and Capital One laundering money, with Trump participating in the scheme. The House is seeking the records of those banks. These are the "third parties" you keep hearing references to in the arguments today. Trump is trying to block Congress from accessing the banks' records.
Finally, there is a third investigation, Trump v. Vance. That is a case by the state of New York which is investigating Trump's payoffs to McDougal and Daniels. They want access to Trump's tax records.
So let me ask you, what did you think of Sotomeyer’s questions surrounding her believing Congress might be out of bounds with the President because the President does not have the documents and that this is investigating the President, before he was President and it has no legislative value?
The NY case I think has some merit, no so sure on the Congressional cases.
Why did he lie? Do you care? Of course not. But the tax thing is reving up not dying out. You don't just walk away from a campaign finance violation your lawyer helped you arrange. That's not gathering tax returns for politics. That's gathering tax returns because of crimes.This tax thing for Trump has something in common with the Flynn case.
Neither had a leg to stand on and that's why it's dying a slow death. You can't be guilty of lying to the FBI for a bogus interview that had the sole purpose of trying to get you to lie. Just like you can't be required to show your tax returns for the sole purpose of politics.
I don't care if:
1. He said he would release them one day and he didn't.
2. Liberals think he should.
3. Courts that hate him think he should.
It all comes down to FUCK OFF they aren't your tax returns.
Your problem is, you are detached from reality. How do we know? You provided nothing of substance challenging my claims. And why is that? Because you aren't prepared to. You have no forensic documentation to fight with. You lose, and you lose badly. Your words are useless.Before he was president, he was engaging in tax evasion and campaign finance violations just to get elected, and did not report that money. Cohen went to jail by helping Trump accomplish that goal. That proves that we as voters got robbed of a free and fair election. Trump committed federal crimes. He has also paid stiff fines for bogus universities and stealing money from charities. Trump is a proven criminal. He can also be indicted for obstruction of justice when he leaves office. The fact that any human being can defend someone like that, tells me him or her are no better than Trump.The House has two cases which have been combined into one. That's Trump v. Mazars. The House is seeking Trump's tax records so they can investigate Michael Cohen's claims that Trump lied about the values of his assets with insurance companies and the IRS. That is why Admiral Rockwell Tory's notion that Trump's FEC filings should be enough is so patently ridiculous and exposes his ignorance.What are they investigating, then? In simple terms.Nope. Not even close. You clearly do not understand the nature of the investigations.His financial statements to the FEC should be sufficient.What would it hurt to release the records. You want to be elected every last aspect of your finances should be made public.
The second House investigation is into Deutche Bank and Capital One laundering money, with Trump participating in the scheme. The House is seeking the records of those banks. These are the "third parties" you keep hearing references to in the arguments today. Trump is trying to block Congress from accessing the banks' records.
Finally, there is a third investigation, Trump v. Vance. That is a case by the state of New York which is investigating Trump's payoffs to McDougal and Daniels. They want access to Trump's tax records.
So let me ask you, what did you think of Sotomeyer’s questions surrounding her believing Congress might be out of bounds with the President because the President does not have the documents and that this is investigating the President, before he was President and it has no legislative value?
The NY case I think has some merit, no so sure on the Congressional cases.
No matter how many times you repeat it that doesn't make it true.
What was the legislative value of the Republican Whitewater investigation?The House has two cases which have been combined into one. That's Trump v. Mazars. The House is seeking Trump's tax records so they can investigate Michael Cohen's claims that Trump lied about the values of his assets with insurance companies and the IRS. That is why Admiral Rockwell Tory's notion that Trump's FEC filings should be enough is so patently ridiculous and exposes his ignorance.What are they investigating, then? In simple terms.Nope. Not even close. You clearly do not understand the nature of the investigations.His financial statements to the FEC should be sufficient.What would it hurt to release the records. You want to be elected every last aspect of your finances should be made public.
The second House investigation is into Deutche Bank and Capital One laundering money, with Trump participating in the scheme. The House is seeking the records of those banks. These are the "third parties" you keep hearing references to in the arguments today. Trump is trying to block Congress from accessing the banks' records.
Finally, there is a third investigation, Trump v. Vance. That is a case by the state of New York which is investigating Trump's payoffs to McDougal and Daniels. They want access to Trump's tax records.
So let me ask you, what did you think of Sotomeyer’s questions surrounding her believing Congress might be out of bounds with the President because the President does not have the documents and that this is investigating the President, before he was President and it has no legislative value?
The NY case I think has some merit, no so sure on the Congressional cases.
They were hoping no one would bring up that little nugget. Lol!Nope. The Republican Congress investigated Whitewater, which was a business dealing before Clinton was president.Is Congress saying the President is refusing to honor a Congressional subpoena? There is a law about that, I believe. But the Congress has to show good cause to want the documents, and they haven't got it, imo.
Because Trump is already implicated in tax evasion, and breaking campaign finance laws.How is not turning over tax returns you were never required to turnover make anyone above the law?The ruling should be a slam dunk against Trump. No one is above the law. Time to see those tax returns Donald. Gosh, can you imagine the money laundering?
US Supreme Court hears arguments over Trump's tax returns
The Supreme Court will rule on the president's attempts to keep his financial records secret.www.yahoo.com
From the link:
The US Supreme Court has heard arguments on whether President Donald Trump should be allowed to keep his financial records secret, in a major showdown over presidential powers.
Mr Trump declines to share documents that could shed light on his fortune and the work of his family company.
Two congressional committees and New York prosecutors demand the release of his tax returns and other information.
Mr Trump's private lawyers argue he enjoys total immunity while in office.
The judges will hear the cases remotely because of the coronavirus pandemic. The Supreme Court has a 5-4 conservative majority and includes two Trump appointees - Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh.
The rule of law, and a guiding principle in our nation's jurisprudence is no man is above the law. The efficacy of the Supreme Court justices to dispense justice will be judged in this matter. If they decide in favor of President Trump, it will give carte blanche to him, and to every future POTUS.
Implicated in tax evasion? Seems kind of a loose accusation. The documents that are being requested are all before he was elected to the Presidency and that seems to be the rub with Sotomeyer, from her questioning she indicated that what Congress is asking for is unprecedented.
The Republicans set the precedent.
Whitewater was brought up several times today. Sotomayor's questions were asking why is this case not just like Whitewater.
And there you have another problem is the president does not have control of the treasurey. The house actually has the purse stringsfunny as hell you didnt bother to read it:Lol. I got to hand it to that guy he doesn't even know that the founders did not even have any idea of tax returns. That's just funny as hell.Once reason is Trump keeps promoting his businesses while in public office.What you fail to see is the difference between a private citizen and a politician with executive powers. Except for Trump, everybody running for president since the 1970's has released their tax returns. All presidents since the 1970's except for Trump has put their assets into a blind trust.I would like every poster who feels it is imperative to see Trumps tax records to post theirs here. There is no legal requirement for you to do so you have done nothing illegal as far as we know even so if you have nothing to hide no reason not to post them that is logic being used for wanting to see Trumps. I look forward to seeing people put their records where their mouth is except they won’t.
This was to ensure that their political decisions would not be based on personal financial gain.
There is no current law that requires a presidential candidate to release their taxes. So in that regard there is no difference between a private citizen or a politician running for office. Until that changes, then no one running needs to be required to show their taxes.
Now, Congress has a wide latitude on subpoenas however the issue in front of the Supreme Court is asking a third party to turnover documents pertaining to activity of a President, prior to them becoming President. This would seem like Congress is making a power grab and asking for information outside of their powers. We will see what happens but this could maybe be a 7-2 decision in favor of Trump.
I've seen Trumps returns and so should you.
Law professor says founders would have wanted his returns released.
“The Founders worried about presidents shielding their financial corruption and misusing the Treasury to hold on to power. A court faithful to their vision will rule against Trump’s extreme arguments "
so now it is not about tax returns but about some supposed possible blackmail. And exactly what is your reason for that assumption.It's not about tax returns. It's about have too much power that the president cannot be investigated, because he could be susceptible to blackmail, therefore obligated to make bad decisions on our behalf. That is what the founders argued, and were quite right to worry about that, because Trump has become their prime candidate for blackmail.Lol. I got to hand it to that guy he doesn't even know that the founders did not even have any idea of tax returns. That's just funny as hell.Once reason is Trump keeps promoting his businesses while in public office.What you fail to see is the difference between a private citizen and a politician with executive powers. Except for Trump, everybody running for president since the 1970's has released their tax returns. All presidents since the 1970's except for Trump has put their assets into a blind trust.I would like every poster who feels it is imperative to see Trumps tax records to post theirs here. There is no legal requirement for you to do so you have done nothing illegal as far as we know even so if you have nothing to hide no reason not to post them that is logic being used for wanting to see Trumps. I look forward to seeing people put their records where their mouth is except they won’t.
This was to ensure that their political decisions would not be based on personal financial gain.
There is no current law that requires a presidential candidate to release their taxes. So in that regard there is no difference between a private citizen or a politician running for office. Until that changes, then no one running needs to be required to show their taxes.
Now, Congress has a wide latitude on subpoenas however the issue in front of the Supreme Court is asking a third party to turnover documents pertaining to activity of a President, prior to them becoming President. This would seem like Congress is making a power grab and asking for information outside of their powers. We will see what happens but this could maybe be a 7-2 decision in favor of Trump.
I've seen Trumps returns and so should you.
Law professor says founders would have wanted his returns released.
You can bet your right nut, Trump was doing exactly what Manafort was doing.The most common way that crooks launder their money is through real estate manipulation.
Trump's main man Manafort is in prison for laundering money in just this way.
And real estate is what Trump is all about.
That's why Trump is terrified of Congress getting hold of the banks' records.
It's not a "your assumption." It's the founders concern. That is why Trump is not immune to oversight or investigations, according to our foundings. It's really a very simple logic, even a high schooler could figure out.And there you have another problem is the president does not have control of the treasurey. The house actually has the purse stringsfunny as hell you didnt bother to read it:Lol. I got to hand it to that guy he doesn't even know that the founders did not even have any idea of tax returns. That's just funny as hell.Once reason is Trump keeps promoting his businesses while in public office.What you fail to see is the difference between a private citizen and a politician with executive powers. Except for Trump, everybody running for president since the 1970's has released their tax returns. All presidents since the 1970's except for Trump has put their assets into a blind trust.I would like every poster who feels it is imperative to see Trumps tax records to post theirs here. There is no legal requirement for you to do so you have done nothing illegal as far as we know even so if you have nothing to hide no reason not to post them that is logic being used for wanting to see Trumps. I look forward to seeing people put their records where their mouth is except they won’t.
This was to ensure that their political decisions would not be based on personal financial gain.
There is no current law that requires a presidential candidate to release their taxes. So in that regard there is no difference between a private citizen or a politician running for office. Until that changes, then no one running needs to be required to show their taxes.
Now, Congress has a wide latitude on subpoenas however the issue in front of the Supreme Court is asking a third party to turnover documents pertaining to activity of a President, prior to them becoming President. This would seem like Congress is making a power grab and asking for information outside of their powers. We will see what happens but this could maybe be a 7-2 decision in favor of Trump.
I've seen Trumps returns and so should you.
Law professor says founders would have wanted his returns released.
“The Founders worried about presidents shielding their financial corruption and misusing the Treasury to hold on to power. A court faithful to their vision will rule against Trump’s extreme arguments "
so now it is not about tax returns but about some supposed possible blackmail. And exactly what is your reason for that assumption.It's not about tax returns. It's about have too much power that the president cannot be investigated, because he could be susceptible to blackmail, therefore obligated to make bad decisions on our behalf. That is what the founders argued, and were quite right to worry about that, because Trump has become their prime candidate for blackmail.Lol. I got to hand it to that guy he doesn't even know that the founders did not even have any idea of tax returns. That's just funny as hell.Once reason is Trump keeps promoting his businesses while in public office.What you fail to see is the difference between a private citizen and a politician with executive powers. Except for Trump, everybody running for president since the 1970's has released their tax returns. All presidents since the 1970's except for Trump has put their assets into a blind trust.I would like every poster who feels it is imperative to see Trumps tax records to post theirs here. There is no legal requirement for you to do so you have done nothing illegal as far as we know even so if you have nothing to hide no reason not to post them that is logic being used for wanting to see Trumps. I look forward to seeing people put their records where their mouth is except they won’t.
This was to ensure that their political decisions would not be based on personal financial gain.
There is no current law that requires a presidential candidate to release their taxes. So in that regard there is no difference between a private citizen or a politician running for office. Until that changes, then no one running needs to be required to show their taxes.
Now, Congress has a wide latitude on subpoenas however the issue in front of the Supreme Court is asking a third party to turnover documents pertaining to activity of a President, prior to them becoming President. This would seem like Congress is making a power grab and asking for information outside of their powers. We will see what happens but this could maybe be a 7-2 decision in favor of Trump.
I've seen Trumps returns and so should you.
Law professor says founders would have wanted his returns released.
You are the one that said it was not about tax returns. You are the one that said that he was a prime candidate for blackmail. So I am asking you to tell us exactly what your reasoning is for your comment that he was a candidate for blackmail?It's not a "your assumption." It's the founders concern. That is why Trump is not immune to oversight or investigations, according to our foundings. It's really a very simple logic, even a high schooler could figure out.And there you have another problem is the president does not have control of the treasurey. The house actually has the purse stringsfunny as hell you didnt bother to read it:Lol. I got to hand it to that guy he doesn't even know that the founders did not even have any idea of tax returns. That's just funny as hell.Once reason is Trump keeps promoting his businesses while in public office.What you fail to see is the difference between a private citizen and a politician with executive powers. Except for Trump, everybody running for president since the 1970's has released their tax returns. All presidents since the 1970's except for Trump has put their assets into a blind trust.I would like every poster who feels it is imperative to see Trumps tax records to post theirs here. There is no legal requirement for you to do so you have done nothing illegal as far as we know even so if you have nothing to hide no reason not to post them that is logic being used for wanting to see Trumps. I look forward to seeing people put their records where their mouth is except they won’t.
This was to ensure that their political decisions would not be based on personal financial gain.
There is no current law that requires a presidential candidate to release their taxes. So in that regard there is no difference between a private citizen or a politician running for office. Until that changes, then no one running needs to be required to show their taxes.
Now, Congress has a wide latitude on subpoenas however the issue in front of the Supreme Court is asking a third party to turnover documents pertaining to activity of a President, prior to them becoming President. This would seem like Congress is making a power grab and asking for information outside of their powers. We will see what happens but this could maybe be a 7-2 decision in favor of Trump.
I've seen Trumps returns and so should you.
Law professor says founders would have wanted his returns released.
“The Founders worried about presidents shielding their financial corruption and misusing the Treasury to hold on to power. A court faithful to their vision will rule against Trump’s extreme arguments "
so now it is not about tax returns but about some supposed possible blackmail. And exactly what is your reason for that assumption.It's not about tax returns. It's about have too much power that the president cannot be investigated, because he could be susceptible to blackmail, therefore obligated to make bad decisions on our behalf. That is what the founders argued, and were quite right to worry about that, because Trump has become their prime candidate for blackmail.Lol. I got to hand it to that guy he doesn't even know that the founders did not even have any idea of tax returns. That's just funny as hell.Once reason is Trump keeps promoting his businesses while in public office.What you fail to see is the difference between a private citizen and a politician with executive powers. Except for Trump, everybody running for president since the 1970's has released their tax returns. All presidents since the 1970's except for Trump has put their assets into a blind trust.I would like every poster who feels it is imperative to see Trumps tax records to post theirs here. There is no legal requirement for you to do so you have done nothing illegal as far as we know even so if you have nothing to hide no reason not to post them that is logic being used for wanting to see Trumps. I look forward to seeing people put their records where their mouth is except they won’t.
This was to ensure that their political decisions would not be based on personal financial gain.
There is no current law that requires a presidential candidate to release their taxes. So in that regard there is no difference between a private citizen or a politician running for office. Until that changes, then no one running needs to be required to show their taxes.
Now, Congress has a wide latitude on subpoenas however the issue in front of the Supreme Court is asking a third party to turnover documents pertaining to activity of a President, prior to them becoming President. This would seem like Congress is making a power grab and asking for information outside of their powers. We will see what happens but this could maybe be a 7-2 decision in favor of Trump.
I've seen Trumps returns and so should you.
Law professor says founders would have wanted his returns released.
I think we are paying the IRS to audit middle and working class returns for EITC violations and turn a blind eye to the returns of billionaire real estate speculators.My question remains the same what was the I.R.S
Doing? What are we paying them for?
AgreeI think we are paying the IRS to audit middle and working class returns for EITC violations and turn a blind eye to the returns of billionaire real estate speculators.My question remains the same what was the I.R.S
Doing? What are we paying them for?
AgreeI think we are paying the IRS to audit middle and working class returns for EITC violations and turn a blind eye to the returns of billionaire real estate speculators.My question remains the same what was the I.R.S
Doing? What are we paying them for?
Well he lied and said he was going to release them. Are you saying lying isnt wrong?There is no real reason to see any of Trump's records. He isn't accused of any wrongdoing.
www.npr.org
US Supreme Court hears arguments over Trump's tax returns
The Supreme Court will rule on the president's attempts to keep his financial records secret.
From the link:
The US Supreme Court has heard arguments on whether President Donald Trump should be allowed to keep his financial records secret, in a major showdown over presidential powers.
Mr Trump declines to share documents that could shed light on his fortune and the work of his family company.
Two congressional committees and New York prosecutors demand the release of his tax returns and other information.
Mr Trump's private lawyers argue he enjoys total immunity while in office.
The judges will hear the cases remotely because of the coronavirus pandemic. The Supreme Court has a 5-4 conservative majority and includes two Trump appointees - Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh.
The rule of law, and a guiding principle in our nation's jurisprudence is no man is above the law. The efficacy of the Supreme Court justices to dispense justice will be judged in this matter. If they decide in favor of President Trump, it will give carte blanche to him, and to every future POTUS.
