Swiss Region Bans Burqas

[aris2chat]

Get some real clothes on, you crazy fuckers...

They are in church

So? Oh right, that matters not a fucking damn since faith goes beyond church, right little Papist?

Papist? LOL

Many jobs have uniforms for viability or protection. Why do bus drivers wear uniforms? Why to toll booth attendants wear uniforms?

The burka is a private choice not a religious requirement and not allowed in certain jobs such as teaching or state workers. A burka is a cultural not religious item and not a uniform of their job.

outside the church many priests and nuns wear clothes like an common person if they choose. Working in a public school or state job they should not wear religious clothing or symbols.

In the privacy of their home they run around naked if they want.

Naked at home, sure thing, but clothed in public, nope, not if you're a Muslim that is. If you want to look like Anonymous, knock yourself out.

No security risk there eh, just normal folks on their way to work...

Anyone with their face covered, apart from police/swat should show their face at security points and when asked by police.

Masks are a gimmick not permanent requirement. There is a time and place for them, but not to hide their whole lives.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Get some real clothes on, you crazy fuckers...

They are in church

So? Oh right, that matters not a fucking damn since faith goes beyond church, right little Papist?

Papist? LOL

Many jobs have uniforms for viability or protection. Why do bus drivers wear uniforms? Why to toll booth attendants wear uniforms?

The burka is a private choice not a religious requirement and not allowed in certain jobs such as teaching or state workers. A burka is a cultural not religious item and not a uniform of their job.

outside the church many priests and nuns wear clothes like an common person if they choose. Working in a public school or state job they should not wear religious clothing or symbols.

In the privacy of their home they run around naked if they want.

Naked at home, sure thing, but clothed in public, nope, not if you're a Muslim that is. If you want to look like Anonymous, knock yourself out.

No security risk there eh, just normal folks on their way to work...

Anyone with their face covered, apart from police/swat should show their face at security points and when asked by police.

Masks are a gimmick not permanent requirement. There is a time and place for them, but not to hide their whole lives.

Masks are legal there, but not the expression of piety for Muslim women. And, it's only for Muslim women...

 

[aris2chat]

Good (and legal) Swiss citizen:

Bad (and illegal) Swiss citizen:

Winter in Minnesota, North Dakota and Alaska there are good reason for hoodies and face socks, but not in florida in the summer.

Indoors there is not reason to be covered and unrecognizable. In harsh weather it is protection from frostbite.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

They shouldn't be in western countries to begin with, but if we are we should ban these fucking 6th century anti-woman attire.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

They shouldn't be in western countries to begin with, but if we are we should ban these fucking 6th century anti-woman attire.

Your total lack of support for religious freedom is noted...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Good (and legal) Swiss citizen:

Bad (and illegal) Swiss citizen:

Winter in Minnesota, North Dakota and Alaska there are good reason for hoodies and face socks, but not in florida in the summer.

Indoors there is not reason to be covered and unrecognizable. In harsh weather it is protection from frostbite.

You seem to be missing the point. You have the freedom to hide your face, as long as you don't do it the way Muslim women do...

 

[aris2chat]

They are in church

So? Oh right, that matters not a fucking damn since faith goes beyond church, right little Papist?

Papist? LOL

Many jobs have uniforms for viability or protection. Why do bus drivers wear uniforms? Why to toll booth attendants wear uniforms?

The burka is a private choice not a religious requirement and not allowed in certain jobs such as teaching or state workers. A burka is a cultural not religious item and not a uniform of their job.

outside the church many priests and nuns wear clothes like an common person if they choose. Working in a public school or state job they should not wear religious clothing or symbols.

In the privacy of their home they run around naked if they want.

Naked at home, sure thing, but clothed in public, nope, not if you're a Muslim that is. If you want to look like Anonymous, knock yourself out.

No security risk there eh, just normal folks on their way to work...

Anyone with their face covered, apart from police/swat should show their face at security points and when asked by police.

Masks are a gimmick not permanent requirement. There is a time and place for them, but not to hide their whole lives.

Masks are legal there, but not the expression of piety for Muslim women. And, it's only for Muslim women...

Burkas are not a requirement of faith or piety, they are cultural costumes and not protected under religious freedom. There are many ways to dress modestly that does not require being a security risk. When there is a threat, security trump personal costume. When a costume or clothing is disruptive, dangerous or interferes with work and uniform requirements there is not protect or exemption for such clothing as a burka. Off work, in the mosque or at home it can be worn. In places with high security and frequent searches it has no place.

 

[aris2chat]

Good (and legal) Swiss citizen:

Bad (and illegal) Swiss citizen:

Winter in Minnesota, North Dakota and Alaska there are good reason for hoodies and face socks, but not in florida in the summer.

Indoors there is not reason to be covered and unrecognizable. In harsh weather it is protection from frostbite.

You seem to be missing the point. You have the freedom to hide your face, as long as you don't do it the way Muslim women do...

Halloween, stage and screen costumes for work and special occasions but not everyday. If stopped or questioned there is no protection and the make-up and masks have to be removed.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Good (and legal) Swiss citizen:

Bad (and illegal) Swiss citizen:

Winter in Minnesota, North Dakota and Alaska there are good reason for hoodies and face socks, but not in florida in the summer.

Indoors there is not reason to be covered and unrecognizable. In harsh weather it is protection from frostbite.

You seem to be missing the point. You have the freedom to hide your face, as long as you don't do it the way Muslim women do...

Halloween, stage and screen costumes for work and special occasions but not everyday. If stopped or questioned there is no protection and the make-up and masks have to be removed.

The law doesn't say that, not does it? it bans what Muslim women wear, and nothing else...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So? Oh right, that matters not a fucking damn since faith goes beyond church, right little Papist?

Papist? LOL

Many jobs have uniforms for viability or protection. Why do bus drivers wear uniforms? Why to toll booth attendants wear uniforms?

The burka is a private choice not a religious requirement and not allowed in certain jobs such as teaching or state workers. A burka is a cultural not religious item and not a uniform of their job.

outside the church many priests and nuns wear clothes like an common person if they choose. Working in a public school or state job they should not wear religious clothing or symbols.

In the privacy of their home they run around naked if they want.

Naked at home, sure thing, but clothed in public, nope, not if you're a Muslim that is. If you want to look like Anonymous, knock yourself out.

No security risk there eh, just normal folks on their way to work...

Anyone with their face covered, apart from police/swat should show their face at security points and when asked by police.

Masks are a gimmick not permanent requirement. There is a time and place for them, but not to hide their whole lives.

Masks are legal there, but not the expression of piety for Muslim women. And, it's only for Muslim women...

Burkas are not a requirement of faith or piety, they are cultural costumes and not protected under religious freedom. There are many ways to dress modestly that does not require being a security risk. When there is a threat, security trump personal costume. When a costume or clothing is disruptive, dangerous or interferes with work and uniform requirements there is not protect or exemption for such clothing as a burka. Off work, in the mosque or at home it can be worn. In places with high security and frequent searches it has no place.

The men above can walk around all day, in their masks, and they are perfectly legal to do so but this woman cannot wear this as an expression of faith?

Please explain?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Good (and legal) Swiss citizen:

Bad (and illegal) Swiss citizen:

Winter in Minnesota, North Dakota and Alaska there are good reason for hoodies and face socks, but not in florida in the summer.

Indoors there is not reason to be covered and unrecognizable. In harsh weather it is protection from frostbite.

You seem to be missing the point. You have the freedom to hide your face, as long as you don't do it the way Muslim women do...

Halloween, stage and screen costumes for work and special occasions but not everyday. If stopped or questioned there is no protection and the make-up and masks have to be removed.

The law doesn't say that, not does it? it bans what Muslim women wear, and nothing else...

So, a jewish man could wear a burqua ?

 

[aris2chat]

Swiss Region Imposes $9,800 Fines On Burqas, Aims At ‘Islamist Fundamentalists’

"Those who rebuff our values and aim to build a parallel society based on religious laws, and want to place it over our society, are not welcome."

Swiss Region Imposes $9,800 Fines On Burqas, Aims At ‘Islamist Fundamentalists’

No freedom of religion there eh? So be it.

Burkas are not a requirement of Islam or the quran.

No reason for it not to banned.

Where is the requirement for Christians to wear a cross around their necks, Jews to cover their hair with a Kippah? Where does either faith require their believers to read the holy books? Can they not ban all three things? They aren't required, right?

Like Saudi bans any show of other faiths and bibles in their country?

Why shouldn't france or western countries not ban burkas? Too many terrorist (men) have escaped under a burka. Too many weapons have been smuggled and transported under a burka. There are valid security reason for banning them.
Even a hijab might hide some distinguishing feature or an adam's apple. If ask to remove, it should be required to do so. They can put it back on afterwards if there is no objection.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Good (and legal) Swiss citizen:

Bad (and illegal) Swiss citizen:

Winter in Minnesota, North Dakota and Alaska there are good reason for hoodies and face socks, but not in florida in the summer.

Indoors there is not reason to be covered and unrecognizable. In harsh weather it is protection from frostbite.

You seem to be missing the point. You have the freedom to hide your face, as long as you don't do it the way Muslim women do...

Halloween, stage and screen costumes for work and special occasions but not everyday. If stopped or questioned there is no protection and the make-up and masks have to be removed.

The law doesn't say that, not does it? it bans what Muslim women wear, and nothing else...

So, a jewish man could wear a burqua ?

Nope, even though Jewish women wear the same kind of thing at times. The clothing of only one religion is banned.

 

[aris2chat]

Papist? LOL

Many jobs have uniforms for viability or protection. Why do bus drivers wear uniforms? Why to toll booth attendants wear uniforms?

The burka is a private choice not a religious requirement and not allowed in certain jobs such as teaching or state workers. A burka is a cultural not religious item and not a uniform of their job.

outside the church many priests and nuns wear clothes like an common person if they choose. Working in a public school or state job they should not wear religious clothing or symbols.

In the privacy of their home they run around naked if they want.

Naked at home, sure thing, but clothed in public, nope, not if you're a Muslim that is. If you want to look like Anonymous, knock yourself out.

No security risk there eh, just normal folks on their way to work...

Anyone with their face covered, apart from police/swat should show their face at security points and when asked by police.

Masks are a gimmick not permanent requirement. There is a time and place for them, but not to hide their whole lives.

Masks are legal there, but not the expression of piety for Muslim women. And, it's only for Muslim women...

Burkas are not a requirement of faith or piety, they are cultural costumes and not protected under religious freedom. There are many ways to dress modestly that does not require being a security risk. When there is a threat, security trump personal costume. When a costume or clothing is disruptive, dangerous or interferes with work and uniform requirements there is not protect or exemption for such clothing as a burka. Off work, in the mosque or at home it can be worn. In places with high security and frequent searches it has no place.

The men above can walk around all day, in their masks, and they are perfectly legal to do so but this woman cannot wear this as an expression of faith?

Please explain?

Are you so sure that is a woman and a muslim? She covers her her face but is not wearing gloves.

This is also a picture from the UK, not france or switzerland

The swiss choose to ban the burka by an overwhelming popular vote. If a muslim objects they are free to pay the $10,000 fine or leave

The burka is not a requirement of faith. No reason a woman must wear it in the west or most of the world.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Swiss Region Imposes $9,800 Fines On Burqas, Aims At ‘Islamist Fundamentalists’

"Those who rebuff our values and aim to build a parallel society based on religious laws, and want to place it over our society, are not welcome."

Swiss Region Imposes $9,800 Fines On Burqas, Aims At ‘Islamist Fundamentalists’

No freedom of religion there eh? So be it.

Burkas are not a requirement of Islam or the quran.

No reason for it not to banned.

Where is the requirement for Christians to wear a cross around their necks, Jews to cover their hair with a Kippah? Where does either faith require their believers to read the holy books? Can they not ban all three things? They aren't required, right?

Like Saudi bans any show of other faiths and bibles in their country?

Why shouldn't france or western countries not ban burkas? Too many terrorist (men) have escaped under a burka. Too many weapons have been smuggled and transported under a burka. There are valid security reason for banning them.
Even a hijab might hide some distinguishing feature or an adam's apple. If ask to remove, it should be required to do so. They can put it back on afterwards if there is no objection.

Devout Muslims women are not allowed to show their faces to men unrelated to them. It's part of the faith.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Naked at home, sure thing, but clothed in public, nope, not if you're a Muslim that is. If you want to look like Anonymous, knock yourself out.

No security risk there eh, just normal folks on their way to work...

Anyone with their face covered, apart from police/swat should show their face at security points and when asked by police.

Masks are a gimmick not permanent requirement. There is a time and place for them, but not to hide their whole lives.

Masks are legal there, but not the expression of piety for Muslim women. And, it's only for Muslim women...

Burkas are not a requirement of faith or piety, they are cultural costumes and not protected under religious freedom. There are many ways to dress modestly that does not require being a security risk. When there is a threat, security trump personal costume. When a costume or clothing is disruptive, dangerous or interferes with work and uniform requirements there is not protect or exemption for such clothing as a burka. Off work, in the mosque or at home it can be worn. In places with high security and frequent searches it has no place.

The men above can walk around all day, in their masks, and they are perfectly legal to do so but this woman cannot wear this as an expression of faith?

Please explain?

Are you so sure that is a woman and a muslim? She covers her her face but is not wearing gloves.

This is also a picture from the UK, not france or switzerland

The swiss choose to ban the burka by an overwhelming popular vote. If a muslim objects they are free to pay the $10,000 fine or leave

The burka is not a requirement of faith. No reason a woman must wear it in the west or most of the world.

So if the majority want to ban the kippah or the Bible, it's all good.?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Winter in Minnesota, North Dakota and Alaska there are good reason for hoodies and face socks, but not in florida in the summer.

Indoors there is not reason to be covered and unrecognizable. In harsh weather it is protection from frostbite.

You seem to be missing the point. You have the freedom to hide your face, as long as you don't do it the way Muslim women do...

Halloween, stage and screen costumes for work and special occasions but not everyday. If stopped or questioned there is no protection and the make-up and masks have to be removed.

The law doesn't say that, not does it? it bans what Muslim women wear, and nothing else...

So, a jewish man could wear a burqua ?

Nope, even though Jewish women wear the same kind of thing at times. The clothing of only one religion is banned.

Your statement is contradictory.

Can a Jewish man wear a burka ? You said no.

That means this isn't specific to religion.

 

[aris2chat]

Good (and legal) Swiss citizen:

Bad (and illegal) Swiss citizen:

Winter in Minnesota, North Dakota and Alaska there are good reason for hoodies and face socks, but not in florida in the summer.

Indoors there is not reason to be covered and unrecognizable. In harsh weather it is protection from frostbite.

You seem to be missing the point. You have the freedom to hide your face, as long as you don't do it the way Muslim women do...

Halloween, stage and screen costumes for work and special occasions but not everyday. If stopped or questioned there is no protection and the make-up and masks have to be removed.

The law doesn't say that, not does it? it bans what Muslim women wear, and nothing else...

Most places around the world have a requirement to remove masks, helmets and face coverings on demand by police or security.

There are only a handful of countries that require a woman to wear such clothing but even other countries in the muslims world can require proof of identification and for the face to be revealed, at least to a female officer. Many of those countries used to ban the burka and even the hijab in public buildings, schools, many government offices, etc.

Burka is a choice not a requirement

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Good (and legal) Swiss citizen:

Bad (and illegal) Swiss citizen:

Winter in Minnesota, North Dakota and Alaska there are good reason for hoodies and face socks, but not in florida in the summer.

Indoors there is not reason to be covered and unrecognizable. In harsh weather it is protection from frostbite.

You seem to be missing the point. You have the freedom to hide your face, as long as you don't do it the way Muslim women do...

Halloween, stage and screen costumes for work and special occasions but not everyday. If stopped or questioned there is no protection and the make-up and masks have to be removed.

The law doesn't say that, not does it? it bans what Muslim women wear, and nothing else...

Most places around the world have a requirement to remove masks, helmets and face coverings on demand by police or security.

There are only a handful of countries that require a woman to wear such clothing but even other countries in the muslims world can require proof of identification and for the face to be revealed, at least to a female officer. Many of those countries used to ban the burka and even the hijab in public buildings, schools, many government offices, etc.

Burka is a choice not a requirement

Bibles are a choice, crosses around the neck a choice, being a nun a choice, dressing like a Jew a choice, religion a choice. Shall we just ban anything that makes life difficult for us, if it's a "choice"?

 

[aris2chat]

Papist? LOL

Many jobs have uniforms for viability or protection. Why do bus drivers wear uniforms? Why to toll booth attendants wear uniforms?

The burka is a private choice not a religious requirement and not allowed in certain jobs such as teaching or state workers. A burka is a cultural not religious item and not a uniform of their job.

outside the church many priests and nuns wear clothes like an common person if they choose. Working in a public school or state job they should not wear religious clothing or symbols.

In the privacy of their home they run around naked if they want.

Naked at home, sure thing, but clothed in public, nope, not if you're a Muslim that is. If you want to look like Anonymous, knock yourself out.

No security risk there eh, just normal folks on their way to work...

Anyone with their face covered, apart from police/swat should show their face at security points and when asked by police.

Masks are a gimmick not permanent requirement. There is a time and place for them, but not to hide their whole lives.

Masks are legal there, but not the expression of piety for Muslim women. And, it's only for Muslim women...

Burkas are not a requirement of faith or piety, they are cultural costumes and not protected under religious freedom. There are many ways to dress modestly that does not require being a security risk. When there is a threat, security trump personal costume. When a costume or clothing is disruptive, dangerous or interferes with work and uniform requirements there is not protect or exemption for such clothing as a burka. Off work, in the mosque or at home it can be worn. In places with high security and frequent searches it has no place.

The men above can walk around all day, in their masks, and they are perfectly legal to do so but this woman cannot wear this as an expression of faith?

Please explain?

till they are asked to remove the mask. Can't walk into many places with a mask on.