Teachers face firing over support of fellow teacher convicted of molestation

[JakeStarkey]

Sigh.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are fun if goofy, Pauli

 

[thereisnospoon]

Oh, whatever. I do think it is interesting that the boy has moved away from his parents. I suspect they are more of a problem in his life than the story lets on.

Ever heard of Mary Kay Letorneau? She's a teacher who started having sex with one of her students when she was 34 and he was 13. He was actually the pursuer. Anyway, they got caught and she was awaiting trial. While out on bail, she was caught having sex in a car with the boy. She was ultimately convicted and sent to prison for 7 1/2 years.

To sum up, when she got out of prison, the "boy" now 21, was waiting for her. He went to a judge and got the order for no contact with her rescinded. Then they got married. They already had two children from before. Her children from a previous marriage attended the wedding.

My husband told me that when he was in high school, one of his friends had gotten himself legally emancipated at the age of 14 and was living with a 35 year old woman. My husband said they were just a couple...no big deal.

And...I am 12 years older than my husband. If I'd met him when I was 25 and he was 13, loving him would be a crime. Luckily, I was 37 and he was 25 years old.

I'm just not that quick to judge. Teenagers are not babies, they're sexually functioning young adults. Sometimes they may be taken advantage of, and that is not right. But sometimes they are not being taken advantage of, they are equal partners in the relationship.

Mary Kay Letourneau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cut the bullshit.
We are in the arena of adults having relations with children.
This is WRONG. And it should be illegal( it is) and punishable by prison terms and permanent sex offender status.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And guess what? All of that is so, and also true is that people participate in sentencings if they wish.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Kondor3, no one is saying the parents can't complain. But they are complaining about constitutionally protected procedures. They are forming a lynch mob. Tough. Nothing will happen at the Board level, and if it does the teachers go to court, and everybody drags it out and pays for it. What the parents can do is vote out the Board. That's their right.

Umm, you are making the mistake of believing that free speech rights are absolute.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are making the real mistake of thinking you can muzzle people in court situations.

You can't.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Although a private business should be able to discharge employees who damage their brand, institutions that are part of the government should, at the very least, respect the Constitution.

Shunning is acceptable, but no more than that.

Another strong argument for privatizing education entirely.

Um, yeah. Because Private Schools never have these kinds of problems.

Except the one I went to, where the Football Coach invited players over to his house to watch gay porn...

And kept his job for 20 years because the arch-diosese kept covering for him and it was the school the Mayor had gone to.

Another one of your made up bullshit stories?
Oh, the Trayvon thing is OVER. Nobody cares.

 

[martybegan]

Another strong argument for privatizing education entirely.

Um, yeah. Because Private Schools never have these kinds of problems.

Except the one I went to, where the Football Coach invited players over to his house to watch gay porn...

And kept his job for 20 years because the arch-diosese kept covering for him and it was the school the Mayor had gone to.

Another one of your made up bullshit stories?
Oh, the Trayvon thing is OVER. Nobody cares.

There was this, but it wasn't a Catholic School, Poly prep country day school.

The school was the subject of a federal lawsuit filed in Brooklyn in 2009 centering on the sexual assault of students by Philip Foglietta, the head football coach from 1966 to 1991. The suit settled for an undisclosed amount in December 2012. A 2004 state suit against the school had been dismissed due to the statute of limitations, but U.S. District Court Judge Frederic Block subsequently ruled that portions of the suit could proceed in federal court because administrators may have lied about when they learned of the abuse. The lawsuit cited the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act in alleging that past and current administrators engaged in a coverup of the abuse.[1] The school acknowledged in 2002 that it had received "credible allegations that such abuse occurred at Poly Prep."[2] Poly chairman Scott Smith's younger brother, Philip, never went to college and slid into multiple addictions. According to the lawsuit, he was sexually assaulted hundreds of times.[3] Published reports have compared the abuse and alleged coverup to a similar scandal at Pennsylvania State University.[4] In March 2012 the international law firm Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman joined the plaintiffs on a pro bono basis.[5] On September 19, 2012, new allegations connecting Foglietta and Jerry Sandusky surfaced.[6] On December 27, 2012, Poly Prep and the plaintiffs announced a settlement of the lawsuit.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Pedophiles hunt where the prey is daily: home school, private school, public school.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

Oh, whatever. I do think it is interesting that the boy has moved away from his parents. I suspect they are more of a problem in his life than the story lets on.

Ever heard of Mary Kay Letorneau? She's a teacher who started having sex with one of her students when she was 34 and he was 13. He was actually the pursuer. Anyway, they got caught and she was awaiting trial. While out on bail, she was caught having sex in a car with the boy. She was ultimately convicted and sent to prison for 7 1/2 years.

To sum up, when she got out of prison, the "boy" now 21, was waiting for her. He went to a judge and got the order for no contact with her rescinded. Then they got married. They already had two children from before. Her children from a previous marriage attended the wedding.

My husband told me that when he was in high school, one of his friends had gotten himself legally emancipated at the age of 14 and was living with a 35 year old woman. My husband said they were just a couple...no big deal.

And...I am 12 years older than my husband. If I'd met him when I was 25 and he was 13, loving him would be a crime. Luckily, I was 37 and he was 25 years old.

I'm just not that quick to judge. Teenagers are not babies, they're sexually functioning young adults. Sometimes they may be taken advantage of, and that is not right. But sometimes they are not being taken advantage of, they are equal partners in the relationship.

Mary Kay Letourneau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cut the bullshit.
We are in the arena of adults having relations with children.
This is WRONG. And it should be illegal( it is) and punishable by prison terms and permanent sex offender status.

Did you not read what I posted? The poor abused boy waited SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS for his abuser to get out of prison, went before a judge to rescind an order refusing her to contact him, then he proposed to her and MARRIED her. So he continued to pursue her, just as he always had.
And I don't think he'd be too happy to hear that referred to as "bullshit."

Oh, and she did pay all those prices...prison, permanent sex offender status, etc. But he eventually became of legal age, she got out of prison, and they were able to resume their relationship without interference.

It's amazing that he was still there for her after 7 1/2 years. This one must just be meant to happen.

Oh, and if anyone has a problem with it, contact them. I'm just telling their story, but they're the ones living it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Parents who home school should have to get background checks like public school teachers.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And you should and all home school parents and adults in the household should be background checked.

 

[bianco]

Their son had grown increasingly distant from the once close-knit family through his early teens, as Erickson, his middle school math teacher, manipulated the young boy into a twisted relationship that lasted from Aug. 2006 to Aug. 2009. The victim frequently lashed out at his father and the tension tore their family apart.

What are the ages of Middle School students ?
I guess early teens.
Boy was under the age of consent..."Courts deal in law not morality".
Have sex with the boy...guilty, no excuses acceptable.

Teachers supporting the guilty teacher? could well be seen as approving of his crime.
Probably should no longer be allowed near students...could they ever be trusted?


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Now, if a male teacher is say 24, and the female student is say 17 [over the age of consent in the US?], and they fall in love and have sex, is that a crime in the US?

 

[JakeStarkey]

That will be up to the school board, bianco.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

A teacher should have a duty of care to his or her students.

Amen to this! Any teacher who puts their own needs, desires, etc. before the well being of their students is not a teacher, but a predator who should not be on the loose.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. May that teacher in Newtown, Connecticut that had her kids hide in the closet on December 14th last year rest in peace.

 

[JoeB131]

So let me get this straight, an underaged teen is an "adult" when having sex, but Trayvon was just a "kid" when he was beating a man's face in for being a "creepy ass cracka".

No, legally, they were both Children.

But even a child can be held accountable for his actions.

Reality check. Most teens have sex long before they are legally "adults".

The proper term is minors, not children. children is a term used when you want to arouse sympathy, even if the "child" was beating the snot out of someone and was well past puberty and almost fully grown.

Sex isnt the issue, trust is the issue, and a teacher in a sexual relation with a student is not only illegal due to statue, it is a violation of trust, trust between both the student and the teacher, and the teacher and the parents.

That you are even close to trying to defend this makes you a fucking dirtbag.

again, if the kid was complaining, I'd be in his corner 100%.

His homophobic, bible thumping parents, not so much.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Oh, whatever. I do think it is interesting that the boy has moved away from his parents. I suspect they are more of a problem in his life than the story lets on.

Ever heard of Mary Kay Letorneau? She's a teacher who started having sex with one of her students when she was 34 and he was 13. He was actually the pursuer. Anyway, they got caught and she was awaiting trial. While out on bail, she was caught having sex in a car with the boy. She was ultimately convicted and sent to prison for 7 1/2 years.

To sum up, when she got out of prison, the "boy" now 21, was waiting for her. He went to a judge and got the order for no contact with her rescinded. Then they got married. They already had two children from before. Her children from a previous marriage attended the wedding.

My husband told me that when he was in high school, one of his friends had gotten himself legally emancipated at the age of 14 and was living with a 35 year old woman. My husband said they were just a couple...no big deal.

And...I am 12 years older than my husband. If I'd met him when I was 25 and he was 13, loving him would be a crime. Luckily, I was 37 and he was 25 years old.

I'm just not that quick to judge. Teenagers are not babies, they're sexually functioning young adults. Sometimes they may be taken advantage of, and that is not right. But sometimes they are not being taken advantage of, they are equal partners in the relationship.

Mary Kay Letourneau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cut the bullshit.
We are in the arena of adults having relations with children.
This is WRONG. And it should be illegal( it is) and punishable by prison terms and permanent sex offender status.

Did you not read what I posted? The poor abused boy waited SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS for his abuser to get out of prison, went before a judge to rescind an order refusing her to contact him, then he proposed to her and MARRIED her. So he continued to pursue her, just as he always had.
And I don't think he'd be too happy to hear that referred to as "bullshit."

Oh, and she did pay all those prices...prison, permanent sex offender status, etc. But he eventually became of legal age, she got out of prison, and they were able to resume their relationship without interference.

It's amazing that he was still there for her after 7 1/2 years. This one must just be meant to happen.

Oh, and if anyone has a problem with it, contact them. I'm just telling their story, but they're the ones living it.

I don't care. Sex between an adult and a child is wrong and illegal.
I have a relatively open mind about issues that are worth giving much thought.
This one I cannot ascribe to.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Adults should not have sex with kids.

Mary Kay was wrong, and the judge never should have granted the young man's request, in my opinion.

 

[Jarlaxle]

NAMBLA is really part of the libertarian base.

Just when I think that I have seen the STUPIDEST STATEMENT EVER on the Internet...Jake squats and squeezes out this jewel.

 

[JakeStarkey]

NAMBLA is really part of the libertarian base.

Just when I think that I have seen the STUPIDEST STATEMENT EVER on the Internet...Jake squats and squeezes out this jewel.

Jarlaxle, that can't be true because you post every day

Pedophiles are libertarians by nature: no law to interfere with their desire to have sex with children.