Ted Cruz Pledges Support For Constitutional Amendment Banning Birth Control

[NYcarbineer]

I think the question should be...do the posters on this thread attacking the OP support what T. Cruz said and pledged....or not? Yes or no.

Yes

And why shouldn't I?

Can you quote the portion of the pledge that mentions birth control?

It's been covered. Once you declare personhood to begin at conception, you effectively outlaw any form of birth control that could prevent the fertilized egg from continuing to live and grow.

That includes birth control measures that prevent the fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus - that includes certain IUD's and the birth control pill.

You should try to walk off that stretch

Hobby Lobby argued that they shouldn't have to provide insurance that covers the IUD because they believed the IUD is an abortifacient.

Were they wrong?

That's their beliefs and they're entitled to them.
There's a difference between a private entity choosing not to support something and government swooping in and declaring long-standing measures illegal.
They may as well try to make abortion illegal......same slim chance

I know it's their belief. That wasn't the question. Are they right or wrong? You profess be knowledgeable about birth control, show it.

 

[g5000]

They believe that once a sperm fertilizes an egg, anything that prevents that egg from turning into a fetus, is the same thing as abortion. I know this sounds strange to some of us...

Yes, the writer of the piece is so far gone it sounds strange to him that many people believe life begins at conception.

...it could also endanger some common forms of birth control and put women who have suffered miscarriages at risk of prosecution.

Women who suffer miscarriages would be at risk of prosecution? This is unmitigated bullshit and I can't believe you aren't embarrassed to be seen in public after regurgitating this hyperbolic disinformation.

What special kind of retard does it take to make such a claim, and what special kind of parroting rube does it take to give this asshole any credence whatsoever?

You skipped the first part. It endangers common forms of birth control.

The common ones would be the Pill and the IUD.

Show me the text of the proposed law which bans the Pill and IUD.

Also, show me the text which would prosecute women who have had miscarriages.

The miscarriage claim strongly suggests the OP's source has ZERO integrity. So these claims are going to have to be supported with evidence.

 

[hortysir]

Yes

And why shouldn't I?

Can you quote the portion of the pledge that mentions birth control?

It's been covered. Once you declare personhood to begin at conception, you effectively outlaw any form of birth control that could prevent the fertilized egg from continuing to live and grow.

That includes birth control measures that prevent the fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus - that includes certain IUD's and the birth control pill.

You should try to walk off that stretch

Hobby Lobby argued that they shouldn't have to provide insurance that covers the IUD because they believed the IUD is an abortifacient.

Were they wrong?

That's their beliefs and they're entitled to them.
There's a difference between a private entity choosing not to support something and government swooping in and declaring long-standing measures illegal.
They may as well try to make abortion illegal......same slim chance

I know it's their belief. That wasn't the question. Are they right or wrong? You profess be knowledgeable about birth control, show it.

I don't agree with them, no.

You sound as silly saying this will lead to that as you accuse the republicans for saying ACA will lead to death panels

 

[hadit]

The thread title is a lie. The hit piece the OP references clearly does not support it.

 

[hadit]

They believe that once a sperm fertilizes an egg, anything that prevents that egg from turning into a fetus, is the same thing as abortion. I know this sounds strange to some of us...

Yes, the writer of the piece is so far gone it sounds strange to him that many people believe life begins at conception.

...it could also endanger some common forms of birth control and put women who have suffered miscarriages at risk of prosecution.

Women who suffer miscarriages would be at risk of prosecution? This is unmitigated bullshit and I can't believe you aren't embarrassed to be seen in public after regurgitating this hyperbolic disinformation.

What special kind of retard does it take to make such a claim, and what special kind of parroting rube does it take to give this asshole any credence whatsoever?

You skipped the first part. It endangers common forms of birth control.

The common ones would be the Pill and the IUD.

Show me the text of the proposed law which bans the Pill and IUD.

Also, show me the text which would prosecute women who have had miscarriages.

The miscarriage claim strongly suggests the OP's source has ZERO integrity. So these claims are going to have to be supported with evidence.

Of course it has no integrity. It's a lie from the beginning. No one's banning birth control that prevents conception. It's a fear-mongering hate piece.

 

[NYcarbineer]

They believe that once a sperm fertilizes an egg, anything that prevents that egg from turning into a fetus, is the same thing as abortion. I know this sounds strange to some of us...

Yes, the writer of the piece is so far gone it sounds strange to him that many people believe life begins at conception.

...it could also endanger some common forms of birth control and put women who have suffered miscarriages at risk of prosecution.

Women who suffer miscarriages would be at risk of prosecution? This is unmitigated bullshit and I can't believe you aren't embarrassed to be seen in public after regurgitating this hyperbolic disinformation.

What special kind of retard does it take to make such a claim, and what special kind of parroting rube does it take to give this asshole any credence whatsoever?

You skipped the first part. It endangers common forms of birth control.

The common ones would be the Pill and the IUD.

Show me the text of the proposed law which bans the Pill and IUD.

Also, show me the text which would prosecute women who have had miscarriages.

The miscarriage claim strongly suggests the OP's source has ZERO integrity. So these claims are going to have to be supported with evidence.

Of course it has no integrity. It's a lie from the beginning. No one's banning birth control that prevents conception. It's a fear-mongering hate piece.

Nobody said that. IUD's and the birth control pill hormonally alter the uterine wall to inhibit attached by the fertilized egg,

aka the Person. That is murder under a personhood amendment.

 

[hadit]

They believe that once a sperm fertilizes an egg, anything that prevents that egg from turning into a fetus, is the same thing as abortion. I know this sounds strange to some of us...

Yes, the writer of the piece is so far gone it sounds strange to him that many people believe life begins at conception.

...it could also endanger some common forms of birth control and put women who have suffered miscarriages at risk of prosecution.

Women who suffer miscarriages would be at risk of prosecution? This is unmitigated bullshit and I can't believe you aren't embarrassed to be seen in public after regurgitating this hyperbolic disinformation.

What special kind of retard does it take to make such a claim, and what special kind of parroting rube does it take to give this asshole any credence whatsoever?

You skipped the first part. It endangers common forms of birth control.

The common ones would be the Pill and the IUD.

Show me the text of the proposed law which bans the Pill and IUD.

Also, show me the text which would prosecute women who have had miscarriages.

The miscarriage claim strongly suggests the OP's source has ZERO integrity. So these claims are going to have to be supported with evidence.

Of course it has no integrity. It's a lie from the beginning. No one's banning birth control that prevents conception. It's a fear-mongering hate piece.

Nobody said that. IUD's and the birth control pill hormonally alter the uterine wall to inhibit attached by the fertilized egg,

aka the Person. That is murder under a personhood amendment.

Note what I said. No one's banning birth control that prevents conception. Conception happens when the egg is fertilized. At that point, there is a distinct being that is neither the mother nor the father. Condoms, for example, would not be illegal.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's been covered. Once you declare personhood to begin at conception, you effectively outlaw any form of birth control that could prevent the fertilized egg from continuing to live and grow.

That includes birth control measures that prevent the fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus - that includes certain IUD's and the birth control pill.

You should try to walk off that stretch

Hobby Lobby argued that they shouldn't have to provide insurance that covers the IUD because they believed the IUD is an abortifacient.

Were they wrong?

That's their beliefs and they're entitled to them.
There's a difference between a private entity choosing not to support something and government swooping in and declaring long-standing measures illegal.
They may as well try to make abortion illegal......same slim chance

I know it's their belief. That wasn't the question. Are they right or wrong? You profess be knowledgeable about birth control, show it.

I don't agree with them, no.

You sound as silly saying this will lead to that as you accuse the republicans for saying ACA will lead to death panels

So the Hobby Lobby people and you are wrong on the science.

READ:

Hormonal IUD. This IUD prevents fertilization by damaging or killing sperm and making the mucus in the cervix thick and sticky, so sperm can't get through to the uterus. It also keeps the lining of the uterus (endometrium) from growing very thick.1 This makes the lining a poor place for a fertilized egg to implant and grow.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yes, the writer of the piece is so far gone it sounds strange to him that many people believe life begins at conception.

Women who suffer miscarriages would be at risk of prosecution? This is unmitigated bullshit and I can't believe you aren't embarrassed to be seen in public after regurgitating this hyperbolic disinformation.

What special kind of retard does it take to make such a claim, and what special kind of parroting rube does it take to give this asshole any credence whatsoever?

You skipped the first part. It endangers common forms of birth control.

The common ones would be the Pill and the IUD.

Show me the text of the proposed law which bans the Pill and IUD.

Also, show me the text which would prosecute women who have had miscarriages.

The miscarriage claim strongly suggests the OP's source has ZERO integrity. So these claims are going to have to be supported with evidence.

Of course it has no integrity. It's a lie from the beginning. No one's banning birth control that prevents conception. It's a fear-mongering hate piece.

Nobody said that. IUD's and the birth control pill hormonally alter the uterine wall to inhibit attached by the fertilized egg,

aka the Person. That is murder under a personhood amendment.

Note what I said. No one's banning birth control that prevents conception. Conception happens when the egg is fertilized. At that point, there is a distinct being that is neither the mother nor the father.

Note what I said for the thousandth time. Both the hormonal IUD and the Pill, by design, adversely alter the uterine wall.

The FERTILIZED EGG has to attach to the uterine wall or it dies.

Set aside your bias for one minute and use your head.

 

[hadit]

You skipped the first part. It endangers common forms of birth control.

The common ones would be the Pill and the IUD.

Show me the text of the proposed law which bans the Pill and IUD.

Also, show me the text which would prosecute women who have had miscarriages.

The miscarriage claim strongly suggests the OP's source has ZERO integrity. So these claims are going to have to be supported with evidence.

Of course it has no integrity. It's a lie from the beginning. No one's banning birth control that prevents conception. It's a fear-mongering hate piece.

Nobody said that. IUD's and the birth control pill hormonally alter the uterine wall to inhibit attached by the fertilized egg,

aka the Person. That is murder under a personhood amendment.

Note what I said. No one's banning birth control that prevents conception. Conception happens when the egg is fertilized. At that point, there is a distinct being that is neither the mother nor the father.

Note what I said for the thousandth time. Both the hormonal IUD and the Pill, by design, adversely alter the uterine wall.

The FERTILIZED EGG has to attach to the uterine wall or it dies.

Set aside your bias for one minute and use your head.

Those are not the only means of birth control. "Ted Cruz wants to ban birth control" is a lie.

 

[GHook93]

Today in Paraguay a 10 year old rape victim was forced to have a baby, because Paraguay has an abortion law similar to the one Cruz wants to pass!

I just can't support that stance.


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[hortysir]

Today in Paraguay a 10 year old rape victim was forced to have a baby, because Paraguay has an abortion law similar to the one Cruz wants to pass!

I just can't support that stance.


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Similar to what stance, exactly?

 

[The sheeple sea]

You snakes for the Democrat party are so freaking empty of new ideas. You pull this same BS how republicans what to ban abortion, take away birth control, BLAAAA blaa blaa. every damn election that is held in this country.

why anyone would support a party who's base of voters is as bad for LYING to the people as their stinking party they are spreading this around for.

Did you... Watch the Republican primary? Where everyone of them said they wanted to ban abortion and all of them who supported a rape and incest exemption quickly backpedaled those statements? Was that debate a liberal lie? I'm confused. Please explain.

 

[The sheeple sea]

No safe sex, more welfare children! Gods plans! Etc..

 

[Stephanie]

You snakes for the Democrat party are so freaking empty of new ideas. You pull this same BS how republicans what to ban abortion, take away birth control, BLAAAA blaa blaa. every damn election that is held in this country.

why anyone would support a party who's base of voters is as bad for LYING to the people as their stinking party they are spreading this around for.

Did you... Watch the Republican primary? Where everyone of them said they wanted to ban abortion and all of them who supported a rape and incest exemption quickly backpedaled those statements? Was that debate a liberal lie? I'm confused. Please explain.

Sanders is being bought and paid for. he doesn't have HIS OWN money like Trump does. If you Sanders supporters believe he isn't. We are right back to you people electing another Obama

 

[The sheeple sea]

You snakes for the Democrat party are so freaking empty of new ideas. You pull this same BS how republicans what to ban abortion, take away birth control, BLAAAA blaa blaa. every damn election that is held in this country.

why anyone would support a party who's base of voters is as bad for LYING to the people as their stinking party they are spreading this around for.

Did you... Watch the Republican primary? Where everyone of them said they wanted to ban abortion and all of them who supported a rape and incest exemption quickly backpedaled those statements? Was that debate a liberal lie? I'm confused. Please explain.

Sanders is being bought and paid for. he doesn't have HIS OWN money like Trump does. If you Sanders supporters believe he isn't. We are right back to you people electing another Obama

22 million dollars for campaign budget is smaller than almost all other candidates, you'd think if he was bought and paid for he would have more money than that, he has had the biggest rallies of the political season where nearly 100,000 supporters donated between 10 and 200 dollars and its very easy to factcheck where his money comes from, much more so than other politicians, again, no super PACs, no special interest. But I suppose he is bought and paid for, by his average supporters. You don't need to be a billionaire to not take bribes.

 

[Stephanie]

You snakes for the Democrat party are so freaking empty of new ideas. You pull this same BS how republicans what to ban abortion, take away birth control, BLAAAA blaa blaa. every damn election that is held in this country.

why anyone would support a party who's base of voters is as bad for LYING to the people as their stinking party they are spreading this around for.

Did you... Watch the Republican primary? Where everyone of them said they wanted to ban abortion and all of them who supported a rape and incest exemption quickly backpedaled those statements? Was that debate a liberal lie? I'm confused. Please explain.

No, I didn't watch the debates and I'm not going to take some leftwinger take on what they did and didn't do. Because they've been know to lie. Just like how this thread is a lie.
I will go by what I know about them already.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Then he is a big government control freak.

People are going to fuck...Get use to it.

Fuck cruz!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Today in Paraguay a 10 year old rape victim was forced to have a baby, because Paraguay has an abortion law similar to the one Cruz wants to pass!

I just can't support that stance.


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He's a nut...This idiot feels he has the right to control peoples lives. Talk about government over step.

 

[ScienceRocks]

What a fucking idiot.

While everyone is still transfixed by the outrage reality show that is the Trump campaign, other candidates like Ted Cruz have been scrambling behind the scenes trying to gather support wherever they can. When the Trump bubble finally pops and the whole thing goes down in flames, the most likely people to court his current supporters are Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz. (Bobby Jindal may even be further right than those two, but despite all of his desperate attempts to outdo Donald Trump and get attention, he is less popular than Hillary Clinton, in his own state of Louisiana.) The biggest prize for 2016 GOP presidential candidates is the evangelical conservatives who are adamantly against abortion for any reason, as well as some popular forms of birth control like the IUD which they also consider to be abortion. They believe that once a sperm fertilizes an egg, anything that prevents that egg from turning into a fetus, is the same thing as abortion. I know this sounds strange to some of us, but this is actually what they think, and I can confirm that the anti-choice activists in my family subscribe to this mindset. So that’s where Ted Cruz comes in. Cruz pledged last week to the extreme anti-choice Georgia Right to Life group that he would support a personhood amendment that would declare fertilized eggs to be human beings. Georgia Right to Life, one of the most outspoken proponents of the movement to grant legal “personhood” to fertilized eggs and fetuses, has endorsed Sen. Ted Cruz for president after he signed their candidate pledge promising to “support a personhood amendment to the U.S. Constitution.” GRTL’s pledge, which the group says Cruz signed, asks candidates to affirm that “a continuum of human life and personhood begins at the moment of fertilization” and promise to protect “the civil rights of the pre-born at an embryonic or fetal level.” In practice, personhood would not only criminalize all abortions, it could also endanger some common forms of birth control and put women who have suffered miscarriages at risk of prosecution. The Georgia group’s advocacy of sweeping personhood measures to ban abortion is so radical that it caused it to split from the National Right to Life Committee. (Source) Yes, these people were too radical for the already extreme National Right to Life Committee, and that was just fine with Ted Cruz. Not content just to defund Planned Parenthood or place serious restrictions on a woman’s right to choose, they also want to ban certain types of birth control which would prevent the need for an abortion in the first place.

Ted Cruz Pledges Support For Constitutional Amendment Banning Birth Control

This is the kind of shit you'd expect from the Taliban, Isis or the muslim brotherhood.