Ted Cruz Says SCOTUS 'Clearly Wrong' to Legalize Gay Marriage

[Circe]

Only a matter of time before the TRUMP court strikes down same sex marriage

The only question is will they just overrule it or start by allowing business to deny service for “religious reasons”

I don't approve of the hypocritical "religious reasons" excuse. We don't bake cakes for that kind of wedding because ITS PERVERTED!!!!!!!

That's a good-enough reason.

 

[Centaur]

So if a woman is “barren” or a man can’t produce viable sperm they shouldn’t be allowed to marry?

Interesting

Yes they can - since they were born with the natural ability to procreate with their spouse, and are only unable to do so because of age or disease.

Since same-sex couples never have the natural ability to procreate with their spouse, then they can't.

 

[rightwinger]

It's not a matter of "picking marriage" - it's just a matter of distinguishing marriage from that which is not a marriage (e.x. same-sex unions) to begin with.

Really?

Why does the state get to pick which consensual relationships you can have?

 

[Circe]

... separate schools for white children and black children ...

The schools would be a whole lot safer and education would be a lot more effective -------

At least in the white schools.

 

[Centaur]

I don't approve of the hypocritical "religious reasons" excuse. We don't bake cakes for that kind of wedding because ITS PERVERTED!!!!!!!

That's a good-enough reason.

Right, the only ones who should have to give a "religious" reason are same-sex couples who want an exception to the laws prohibiting them from marrying - and even then, it shouldn't be guaranteed.

 

[Centaur]

Really?

Why does the state get to pick which consensual relationships you can have?

Why doesn't it? It has every legal right to pick which relationships people have, "consensual" or not. (Such as the various and perfectly Constitutional laws some states have prohibiting incestuous relations whether or not they involve legally consenting "adults").

Why does the state get to pick whether or not you have to stop at a red light or go at a green light?

 

[Circe]

Why is it all these right wingers are constantly thinking about gay sex? It's weird.

Right. As you say. Because it's weird.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes they can - since they were born with the natural ability to procreate with their spouse, and are only unable to do so because of age or disease.

Since same-sex couples never have the natural ability to procreate with their spouse, then they can't.

What does procreation have to do with a marriage?

It says nothing about procreating on the license the state issues

 

[rightwinger]

Why doesn't it? It has every legal right to pick which relationships people have, "consensual" or not.

Why does the state get to pick whether or not you have to stop at a red light or go at a green light?

Like when they passed laws saying blacks could not marry whites?

 

[Centaur]

Like when they passed laws saying blacks could not marry whites?

Yes. But there's no sound or rational basis for preventing interracial marriage - the same can't be said about the other unions mentioned here.

 

[Centaur]

What does procreation have to do with a marriage?

It says nothing about procreating on the license the state issues

The licenses presume by default that the couple have the ability to naturally procreate with each other, so that factor simply needs to be stated in black and white at this point.

 

[DukeU]

So if a woman is “barren” or a man can’t produce viable sperm they shouldn’t be allowed to marry?

Interesting

Man and woman.

 

[jc456]

Plus even if the courts overturned interracial marriage, the worst thing that would happen is that it would just become a "states' rights" issue.

Some states might ban it, but even that is unlikely - and some states would codify it and become popular destinations for "marriage tourism" akin to Las Vegas. That is all.

Funny how it’s always demofks eroding our laws, and going around the legislative branch

 

[progressive hunter]

Ted Cruz says Obergefell was 'wrong when it was decided' - Google Search

Ted Cruz Says SCOTUS 'Clearly Wrong' to Legalize Gay Marriage

"Obergefell, like Roe v. Wade, ignored two centuries of our nation's history," the Republican senator said.

www.newsweek.com

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I just knew it would come up soon.

in accordance with the 10th A no where in the constitution does it give marriage powers to the feds,,,

 

[Calypso Jones]

Govt shouldn't be involved in marriage. That's religions role. See.... govt usurping religions role. Just like barr said.

 

[Polishprince]

14th amendment is not

States don’t get to pick which marriages they like and which they consider “yucky”

A Gay Marriage isn't a marriage at all, because marriage is a relationship between a dude and a broad, not two dudes. Its not a question about "yucky"

 

[DukeU]

Really?

Why does the state get to pick which consensual relationships you can have?

They don't.

You can have a relationship with anyone you choose.

 

[Centaur]

in accordance with the 10th A no where in the constitution does it give marriage powers to the feds,,,

Then if it doesn't give it to the feds, then that means Obergfell vs. Hodges is unconstitutional.

And no, overturning Obergfell vs Hodges would't be "giving it to the feds" - it would simply be returning it to the states and allowing them the discretion to ban or allow it.

 

[Centaur]

They don't.

You can have a relationship with anyone you choose.

No you can't.

There are plenty of state laws which prohibit relationships regardless of "consent" - such as state laws which prohibit certain types of incestuous relationships. And nobody's challenged them, and not ever likely going to.

 

[Centaur]

Govt shouldn't be involved in marriage. That's religions role. See.... govt usurping religions role. Just like barr said.

States have a legal right to be involved with it is they so wish - I'm not sure about the federal government as per the 10th Amendment, though.