Ted Cruz Says SCOTUS 'Clearly Wrong' to Legalize Gay Marriage

[TNHarley]

No, it's not. it's an English word describing the status of 2 people towards each other. it is called differently in other languages. It has a definition in a religious and a definition in a secular context. it's not hard to understand. If you want the gov to call it something else, then don't complain when legislatures and agencies across the country spend countless time and money making all those changes. Because unlike what some people here are saying, it's not a matter of electronic find and replace. It's a change to a legal document. That requires debate and approval. And when it's done, people will still call it marriage. A couple will not say they are going to City Hall to get civil-unioned, they'll say they are getting married.

A properly crafted law affords protection to religious institutions who don't want to marry same sex couples so there is no slippery slope.

It has a secular meaning because govt got involved. Marriage, historically, is a religious institution. UNTIL govt got their greedy asses involved.

 

[rightwinger]

I get that. But marriage, as everyone calls it, is a religious institution. If the religious dont want gays getting married, they need to take it back from the state.

Religions can make any rules they want
The state must apply it’s laws equally

 

[TNHarley]

The state must apply it’s laws equally

And they dont. Our fucking govt cant even handle marriage properly.
And then idiots like you want them to control every aspect of our lives. Blows my mind.

 

[rightwinger]

And they dont. Our fucking govt cant even handle marriage properly.
And then idiots like you want them to control every aspect of our lives. Blows my mind.

The government is handling it properly

It is religions applying unnecessary rules

 

[TNHarley]

The government is handling it properly

It is religions applying unnecessary rules

Thats why it is applied unequally? The shit you were just talking about? Jesus fucking christ man

 

[rightwinger]

Thats why it is applied unequally? The shit you were just talking about? Jesus fucking christ man

Wtf are you babbling about?

 

[TNHarley]

Wtf are you babbling about?

You said they need to apply the laws equally, but they dont. and then said it is handling it properly.
Are you drunk?

 

[rightwinger]

You said they need to apply the laws equally, but they dont. and then said it is handling it properly.
Are you drunk?

Give me an example of unequal laws

 

[TNHarley]

Give me an example of unequal laws

tax credits

 

[rightwinger]

tax credits

Still not following you

 

[bodecea]

Sovereign G-d of Creation.

Which one? There are so many depending on where you are and what culture.

 

[TNHarley]

Still not following you

How people get favored by tax credits for doing shit the govt likes. Marriage, having kids etc.
Jesus man, have you been under a rock the last 50 years?

 

[bodecea]

Next targets for the TRUMPCourt

Gay Marriage/Gay Rights
School /Public Prayer
EPA
Obamacare
CDC
Worker Protections
OSHA

Wait! Didn't the disgraced twice-impeached former occupant of the WH get rid of Obamacare like he promised?

 

[GMCGeneral]

Which one? There are so many depending on where you are and what culture.

Doesn't depend on anything. The one and only G-d, YHWH who sent His Son, Jesus to die for the sins of man.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Another example of why secular law is more just than Biblical law

And I agree, which is why it is a good thing liberals no longer revere court decisions as though they were gospel [remember the bad old days?] now they must play by the rules they set out and that is some nasty tasting medicine...just listen to their rants and look at their faces as it goes down.

 

[Redfish]

Religions can make any rules they want
The state must apply it’s laws equally

yes, and the voters of each state should decide what laws apply in their state. That is all the SC decision did, put it back to the states where it belongs. abortion and gay marriage are NOT federal constitutional issues.

 

[rightwinger]

yes, and the voters of each state should decide what laws apply in their state. That is all the SC decision did, put it back to the states where it belongs. abortion and gay marriage are NOT federal constitutional issues.

What do you do when a gay couple moves to a state that doesn’t recognize their marriage?

What about gay Military couples who are stationed in a state that doesn’t recognize their marriage?

 

[Redfish]

What do you do when a gay couple moves to a state that doesn’t recognize their marriage?

What about gay Military couples who are stationed in a state that doesn’t recognize their marriage?

a reasonable federal law would require marriages sanctioned in any state to be recognized by all states. same with abortion, if you get it legally in any state no state should prosecute you if you enter that state.

there are common sense solutions to all this, its you on the left that demand your way or no way.

 

[rightwinger]

a reasonable federal law would require marriages sanctioned in any state to be recognized by all states. same with abortion, if you get it legally in any state no state should prosecute you if you enter that state.

there are common sense solutions to all this, its you on the left that demand your way or no way.

So what do you gain by banning gay marriage if someone in your state can just skip out to Vegas to get married?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

yes, and the voters of each state should decide what laws apply in their state. That is all the SC decision did, put it back to the states where it belongs. abortion and gay marriage are NOT federal constitutional issues.

Would you also be ok with having some states that banned interracial marriage?