Texas Governor Gregg Abbott Says New Laws to Be Passed After Elementary School Shooting

[Toro]

Wow, I don't remember you being such a fucking liar. Commies gonna be commies I guess, FOAD comrade.

I’m not a communist.

But you are a moron

 

[2aguy]

Your Orange God fucked a porn star while his wife was tending to his newborn.

So STFU hypocrite.

I'm not the hypocrite....you guys said Trump was bad, biden did it too......obama likely did it with men, rather than women, but he was much more careful about it...

 

[Toro]

No, you just don't want to answer the question.

When Muslims kill people, you’re very happy to make it a political talking point

 

[2aguy]

Blames other races.

What a lowlife racist.

Me, a racist?

No......the statistics are the statistics...

75% of black homes are single mother homes....

young black males are 7% of the population, but commit over 50% of the murders...

Young black males are also the majority of the murder victims...

The democrat party is responsible for this.

 

[Ringtone]

Well if you are going to complain about a lack of morals, then yes. It would not be a waste. If you are going to vote for immorality don't complain about a lack of it.

I didn't vote for immorality. You're ridiculous. Among other things, I voted for the integrity of our national sovereignty, for border security, for the rule of law, for economic prosperity, for liberty, for energy independence, for America first!

My observation stands and stays. The hypocrisy is yours, lefty.

 

[2aguy]

When Muslims kill people, you’re very happy to make it a political talking point

No....we point out the war against the west of muslim extremists...you know, the ones who murdered over 3,000 Americans......

 

[Toro]

I'm not the hypocrite....you guys said Trump was bad, biden did it too......obama likely did it with men, rather than women, but he was much more careful about it...

Yeah, you are a fucking hypocrite.

Keep clinging to your guns as children keep getting slaughtered.

 

[Toro]

No....we point out the war against the west of muslim extremists...you know, the ones who murdered over 3,000 Americans......

Right wing extremist terrorists kill people at a rate of 10x more than anyone else over the past decade.

But you say nothing, hypocrite.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

I'm not the hypocrite....you guys said Trump was bad, biden did it too......obama likely did it with men, rather than women, but he was much more careful about it...

So did Clinton.

 

[pknopp]

That list isn't accurate, not even close.......here...if the moderators get mad at my posting this, I am responding to your direct post....

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
  • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
• 
  
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  • ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2021...6
2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1

So have to kill them as opposed to simply kill them for it to count? If a person shoots 7 people but only 3 dies, that doesn't count?

 

[Toro]

Me, a racist?

No......the statistics are the statistics...

75% of black homes are single mother homes....

young black males are 7% of the population, but commit over 50% of the murders...

Young black males are also the majority of the murder victims...

The democrat party is responsible for this.

There have been ~500 terrorist killings over the past decade. 450 have been from right wing terrorists.

The statistics are statistics.

 

[pknopp]

I didn't vote for immorality. You're ridiculous. Among other things, I voted for the integrity of our national sovereignty, for border security, for the rule of law, for economic prosperity, for liberty, for energy independence, for America first!

My observation stands and stays. The hypocrisy is yours, lefty.

Hyperbole trumps principle with you. I get it, you are in the majority.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

That list isn't accurate, not even close.......here...if the moderators get mad at my posting this, I am responding to your direct post....

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
  • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
• 
  
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  • ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



---------
The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2021...6
2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1

Mother Jones is among the least credible sources on the internet for "facts". I would not hang my hat on anything posted there.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

So have to kill them as opposed to simply kill them for it to count? If a person shoots 7 people but only 3 dies, that doesn't count?

Not according to how the FBI and CRS classify "mass shootings".

 

[Toro]

Right wingers: “I’m pro-life.”

Except when children are being slaughtered.

 

[Leo123]

When Muslims kill people, you’re very happy to make it a political talking point

Still no answers......Why am I not surprised.

 

[2aguy]

So have to kill them as opposed to simply kill them for it to count? If a person shoots 7 people but only 3 dies, that doesn't count?

No...obama changed the number from 4 to 3 because, as you can see from the actual list......they weren't getting enough mass public shootings to count...

The FBI also counts "Active Shooter" events which are a different class of crime.....I don't have the list on that one..

 

[2aguy]

Mother Jones is among the least credible sources on the internet for "facts". I would not hang my hat on anything posted there.

They have the most accurate list....did you check out the numbers and their requirements...directly from the FBI....

And the added pleasure of using a left wing, anti-gun fanatic news source to show how rare mass public shootings really are...

 

[Toro]

Still no answers......Why am I not surprised.

Rofl

 

[Leo123]

Right wingers: “I’m pro-life.”

Except when children are being slaughtered.

Abortion is slaughtering children. Conservatives advocate for protection in our schools. Lefties want to try to ban guns knowing that only the law abiding will not be armed. Lefties wish perps have the ability to kill easily. That way, lefties, can gain political talking points on the dead bodies.