Texas is Relying on Batteries

[Synthaholic]

They are having to turn to battery power because of their failed energy policies, and not being connected to the national grid.


Heat is battering Texas’s power grid. Are giant batteries the answer?
The worst may be yet to come, with extreme weather forecast to persist into next weekend

The outsize role battery storage is playing in keeping the power on is welcome news to clean energy companies, which have been fighting the fossil fuel lobby’s efforts to place blame for the state’s electricity woes on the increasing share of renewables in its energy mix.

Battery storage is a boon to wind and solar, as it allows them to capture and store the energy created at times when it may not be needed and then make it available to ratepayers at peak hours.

But amid this heat emergency, batteries have also proved useful in bailing out more traditional power plants.

When a large coal facility got knocked offline during peak hours this week amid the stress of the extreme heat, energy that was being stored in batteries elsewhere in Texas was quickly dispatched to carry the grid through the evening. The batteries were also crucial to keeping the power on when a nuclear plant hiccuped and went offline earlier in the week, said Doug Lewin, a Texas energy consultant.

 

[theHawk]

They are having to turn to battery power because of their failed energy policies, and not being connected to the national grid.


Heat is battering Texas’s power grid. Are giant batteries the answer?
The worst may be yet to come, with extreme weather forecast to persist into next weekend

The outsize role battery storage is playing in keeping the power on is welcome news to clean energy companies, which have been fighting the fossil fuel lobby’s efforts to place blame for the state’s electricity woes on the increasing share of renewables in its energy mix.

Battery storage is a boon to wind and solar, as it allows them to capture and store the energy created at times when it may not be needed and then make it available to ratepayers at peak hours.

But amid this heat emergency, batteries have also proved useful in bailing out more traditional power plants.

When a large coal facility got knocked offline during peak hours this week amid the stress of the extreme heat, energy that was being stored in batteries elsewhere in Texas was quickly dispatched to carry the grid through the evening. The batteries were also crucial to keeping the power on when a nuclear plant hiccuped and went offline earlier in the week, said Doug Lewin, a Texas energy consultant.

There is no “national power grid” you fucking idiot.

Their energy policy sucks because they bought into the green energy hoax. Too much dependance on wind and solar.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Sounds like your saying wind and solar doesnt work.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

They are having to turn to battery power because of their failed energy policies, and not being connected to the national grid.


Heat is battering Texas’s power grid. Are giant batteries the answer?
The worst may be yet to come, with extreme weather forecast to persist into next weekend

The outsize role battery storage is playing in keeping the power on is welcome news to clean energy companies, which have been fighting the fossil fuel lobby’s efforts to place blame for the state’s electricity woes on the increasing share of renewables in its energy mix.

Battery storage is a boon to wind and solar, as it allows them to capture and store the energy created at times when it may not be needed and then make it available to ratepayers at peak hours.

But amid this heat emergency, batteries have also proved useful in bailing out more traditional power plants.

When a large coal facility got knocked offline during peak hours this week amid the stress of the extreme heat, energy that was being stored in batteries elsewhere in Texas was quickly dispatched to carry the grid through the evening. The batteries were also crucial to keeping the power on when a nuclear plant hiccuped and went offline earlier in the week, said Doug Lewin, a Texas energy consultant.

You should be worrying about california.
They have constant power outages and they're buying more and more electric cars they cant recharge.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Sounds like your saying wind and solar doesnt work.

It does, but on a very insignificant level, and a very dangerous and overly expensive one at that.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Another fuktard spewing fuktarded fuktardedness.

ALL power grids have back up batteries. And have had for decades.

 

[theHawk]

You should be worrying about california.
They have constant power outages and they're buying more and more electric cars they cant recharge.

California has the worst power reliability in the US.
Texas and NY come in after that.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

California has the worst power reliability in the US.
Texas and NY come in after that.

As someone who's lived in Texas for over 5 decades I have to disagree.
We've never lost power for more than a few days after a hurricane.

 

[Synthaholic]

There is no “national power grid” you fucking idiot.

You just can't help but show your ass.

 

[theHawk]

You just can't help but show your ass.

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Because some WaPo dolt wrote it?

There is no national power grid. Our nation is a collection of hundreds of power grids. There are many interconnects between these grids, but those can only supply a small amount of power to adjacent bulk electric systems (BES). Power cannot be pushed over long distances well, it loses way too much efficiency.

It is also a lie to claim the Texas Interconnect (TIC) is not connected to adjacent states. It is. But Texas is so fucking big there is no way these adjacent grids can supply the bulk of their power if Texas is having major generation issues. Texas generates nearly half a million Gigawatt hours, no state adjacent to it can make that much less fork it over to them over interconnects.

I work in the industry and I can tell you the idiots that write these articles have zero fucking clue how anything in our power grids work.

 

[theHawk]

It is also a lie to claim Texas is “avoiding federal regulations”.

Can you name what these regulations are, Synthaholic ?

Be specific.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You just can't help but show your ass.

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You'll believe anything wont you ya moron.

 

[themirrorthief]

You just can't help but show your ass.

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no wonder you are such a dim bulb....taking your news from the washington post is like basing your politics on Mein Kampf

 

[elektra]

This is great, this is a miracle, God has saved us! Millions of little batteries connected to make giant batteries are saving us.

Texas at peak electricity usage is consuming 80 gw every hour. That is 1.3 gw per minute.

Texas has 3.2 gw of battery storage.

2 1/2 minutes of power, was enough to save the grid, now that is a fucking miracle, we can all agree on that.

Too many people here can not tell a joke when they see one. So here is the truth. There is no way that 2 1/5 minutes of electricity prevented blackouts.

Texas is somehow a conservative republican state? This just goes to show that the trillions of dollars being spent on wind turbines, solar panels, and grid scale batteries is making Texas rich, with all the Federal subsidies as well as the resources need to manufacture this expensive, inefficient, crap.

Billions of tons of natural resources, is only built with fossil fuels, millions of tons of fossil fuels, what is Texas rich in! The fuel, the chemicals, the pet-coke, needed for wind turbines, solar panels, and grid scale batteries.

 

[BULLDOG]

There is no “national power grid” you fucking idiot.

Their energy policy sucks because they bought into the green energy hoax. Too much dependance on wind and solar.

Yes, there is a national power grid, but it is divided into 3 regions. The eastern and western interconnections are seperated at the rocky mountains, because it's too hard to maintain a reliable connection over such rough teritory. Texas has it's own region because --- well --- Texas. They are all jointly connected, but the joint connections are all DC, and not suitable to distribute directly to customers.

 

[theHawk]

Yes, there is a national power grid, but it is divided into 3 regions. The eastern and western interconnections are seperated at the rocky mountains, because it's too hard to maintain a reliable connection over such rough teritory. Texas has it's own region because --- well --- Texas. They are all jointly connected, but the joint connections are all DC, and not suitable to distribute directly to customers.

Wrong. Those three divisions are only administrative areas of NERC. NERC does not operate power grids. They only regulate them.

I work in the Western Interconnect and it is not one giant power grid. It’s many independent grids loosely stitched together.

As you can see from your map, the areas include Canada and Mexico, because the regulatory body is international, not federal, and it includes Texas.

 

[okfine]

California has the worst power reliability in the US.
Texas and NY come in after that.

My daughter lives in AZ and her electricity goes out more than it does where I live in CA.

 

[BULLDOG]

Wrong. Those three divisions are only administrative areas of NERC. NERC does not operate power grids. They only regulate them.

I work in the Western Interconnect and it is not one giant power grid. It’s many independent grids loosely stitched together.

As you can see from your map, the areas include Canada and Mexico, because the regulatory body is international, not federal, and it includes Texas.

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If a power plant goes down in British Columbia, it has an effect on power in New Mexico, doesn't it?

 

[theHawk]

If a power plant goes down in British Columbia, it has an effect on power in New Mexico, doesn't it?

No.

 

[theHawk]

My daughter lives in AZ and her electricity goes out more than it does where I live in CA.

Yea sure.


Anyway, here is actual data showing AZ is in the top 10 for reliability:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/infrastructure/energy/power-grid-reliability