Thanks for playing Mini-Mike:

After last night debate are you still a fan of Mini-Mike Bloomberg?

  • Yes, because Sanders and Warren scare the shot out of me!

  • No, too many issues and he would also lose badly to Trump!!

  • People that eat Anchovies on their Pizza are closet Sanders voters!!!


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True, but she isn't polling well at this point in her campaign. She will continue to do well in the debates, but even before Bloomberg entered the race, her support was dropping off.

We'll have to see. I'm not really sure what your point is I didn't specifically reference Warren. Bloomberg clearly is unable to defend himself.
I'm still shocked that average Democrats haven't started a revolt against a clearly corrupt DNC
If I was a Democrat I would be furious that they changed the rules for his money.

Yeah, it sucks. Not nearly as corrupt as not allowing witnesses in an impeachment trial though. It looks as though the candidates will take care of Bloomberg so it doesn't matter much. Who's watching over Trump?
Omg

Stay on topic ffs.

I am on topic, I'm demonstrating our priorities. I'm not intending to vote for Bloomberg except in the general to get the more corrupt person out of office. While you at the same time are complaining about changing debate rules yet ignore the corruption of the guy you would vote for if you could. (Trump)

And lol at candidates fixing anything. The two least insane dems are kept out of the mix.

Now, this is off topic. My point is the Democratic candidates are looking to take care of the guy who got into the debates with the rule change. Those same candidates where I will be able to vote for.

I'd much rather be on the side with a little corruption compared to...well, you.
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After last night debate it is clear Bloomberg is toast as can be and either Mayor Peter or the Crazy Communist Uncle will win the 2020 Democratic Primary!

Bloomberg poor showing will only strengthen Warren and Sanders and Him ( Mini-Mike ) and Biden will just fall out after Super Tuesday...

So enjoy four more years of Trump and I know those that believe in the Bern will point to polls, yeah and then after November they will scream Russia once again!

Why can't you Democrats run someone worth voting for?

Oh well, so thanks Mini-Mike but no thanks because we already have Trump doing what you will do...


Opinion | Michael Bloomberg’s Monumental Failure to Prepare
Do you really thing that debate will influence the Super Tue primaries? I don't, but I also expect Sanders will win big in CA, and that will probably seal the deal, at least in terms of his having the most delegates at the convention.

I believe Fox ( the poster and not the blithering idiot box station ) is correct and Sanders will not have the Delegates and of so then it become broker...

Now the question is if Sanders has the most Delegates while not achieving the goal of the majority will the party unify and throw their support behind him or will they say " Hell no you damn crazies "?

Also seeing Bloomberg is the major backer will he back Sanders or say let just focus on the down ballot while understanding Trump will win reelection?
I agree with you scenario. And to your middle paragraph question:

" Now the question is if Sanders has the most Delegates while not achieving the goal of the majority will the party unify and throw their support behind him or will they say " Hell no you damn crazies "?"

It seems to me sort of akin to 72. Humphrey actually had more votes than McGovern, and McGovern only had around 25%, but he won the most primaries and had the most delegates … although then CA was winner take all, and I think that sealed the deal. Humphrey withdrew before the convention.

McGovern opened the primary system to more democratic participation, and according to his own statement "20 million people walked out' of the dem party. And the gop went on to win 3 out of the next 4.

I know all but Sanders said "let the system work" rather than nominating the leader (and his hypocrisy knows no bounds since he had a different tune in 2016) But does the dem party alienate all the Bernie "followers?" Imagine AOC. Imo their best option would just be to nominate the 80 year old socialist who LITERALLY never has held a real job. Take the drubbing. And hope the Bernie "followers" learn that it's better to nominate someone with a chance to win.

I doubt they learn because every election cycle you have a Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and Bernie Sanders...

Bernie Sanders come off as a wannabe Jimmy Carter meet Leon Trotsky on a bad hair day...

Best thing to do is if Sanders is the clear favorite by the Democratic Primary voter then those like Bloomberg should focus on the down ticket elections and let Sanders sink.

Cortez than whine all day all I care and let be factual she is missing a few screws in the head...

November is going to remind me of Mondale getting slaughtered by Reagan in 1984...
Yeah, actually I misspoke and McGovern was even worse. The dems lost 72, 80, 88, 92.

So, I pretty much agree with anything the preserves party unity. And McGovern did the opposite. The dems were in open warfare with themselves until the Clintons, and Ted pretty much gave up.

I've given up on the national gop. I was in the Rubio camp, but ….. Moscow Mitch is simply about protecting the plutocrats like his FIL.
 
Yeah and if they nominate Comrade Sanders, everybody that's not a bleary eyed, idealistic socialist is likely to "walk on the party".

No evidence of this and actually polls show him beating Trump. The same polls that showed Clinton winning by 2-3% and as of now Sanders is higher. Not saying that will last but I wouldn't be making such bold predictions in a 50/50 country.

It's setting up to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario for the Democrats, which is shame since it probably means that 4 more years of Donny is the best option we're going to have.

The clearest message I hear on a consistent basis is Trump has to go, that is the number 1 priority and in a way I've never seen in a previous election. In 2016 Trump was just a candidate nobody really knew what he would bring so some stayed home. Now to many he is a clear threat to democracy so much so that I'd vote for Bloomberg with a smile on my face in the general election and I can't stand that guy.
You are overestimating the anti Trump vote. Even as the Democrats have been drooling out nonsense like calling him a threat to democracy, President Trump's job approval ratings have continued to go up so that at this point Trump's job approval rating is higher than Obama's was at this point in his first term.

He's below 50% and he's been consistently the guy with one of the lowest approval ratings of all recent presidents. And no, I'm not overestimating the anti-Trump sentiment in the Democratic party where base turnout is going to be up. When Democrats actually show up they win. And on average Trump's approval rating is lower than Obama's at this point. You can see a comparison of Trump vs other presidents here: How Popular Is Donald Trump?
I'm sure the Democrats who do show up will vote against President Trump no matter who the Democratic candidate is, but unless the Democrats have an attractive candidate, there won't be a strong turnout. Republicans, on the other hand, are outraged by the Russia scam and the phony impeachment and will turn out in huge numbers to support the President. In addition, Trump polls well among independents who will decide the election.

There's going to be a high turnout as this will be a referendum on Trump and everyone has an opinion.

I thought so too, but dem primary turnout pretty much sucks so far. Maybe it's the candidates.
 
We'll have to see. I'm not really sure what your point is I didn't specifically reference Warren. Bloomberg clearly is unable to defend himself.
I'm still shocked that average Democrats haven't started a revolt against a clearly corrupt DNC
If I was a Democrat I would be furious that they changed the rules for his money.

Yeah, it sucks. Not nearly as corrupt as not allowing witnesses in an impeachment trial though. It looks as though the candidates will take care of Bloomberg so it doesn't matter much. Who's watching over Trump?
Omg

Stay on topic ffs.

I am on topic, I'm demonstrating our priorities. I'm not intending to vote for Bloomberg except in the general to get the more corrupt person out of office. While you at the same time are complaining about changing debate rules yet ignore the corruption of the guy you would vote for if you could. (Trump)

And lol at candidates fixing anything. The two least insane dems are kept out of the mix.

Now, this is off topic. My point is the Democratic candidates are looking to take care of the guy who got into the debates with the rule change. Those same candidates where I will be able to vote for.

I'd much rather be on the side with a little corruption compared to...well, you.
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Once again, you're pointing at a little corruption and ignoring the giant mountain of it in the guy you support. You can repeat yourself all you want.
 
No evidence of this and actually polls show him beating Trump. The same polls that showed Clinton winning by 2-3% and as of now Sanders is higher. Not saying that will last but I wouldn't be making such bold predictions in a 50/50 country.

The clearest message I hear on a consistent basis is Trump has to go, that is the number 1 priority and in a way I've never seen in a previous election. In 2016 Trump was just a candidate nobody really knew what he would bring so some stayed home. Now to many he is a clear threat to democracy so much so that I'd vote for Bloomberg with a smile on my face in the general election and I can't stand that guy.
You are overestimating the anti Trump vote. Even as the Democrats have been drooling out nonsense like calling him a threat to democracy, President Trump's job approval ratings have continued to go up so that at this point Trump's job approval rating is higher than Obama's was at this point in his first term.

He's below 50% and he's been consistently the guy with one of the lowest approval ratings of all recent presidents. And no, I'm not overestimating the anti-Trump sentiment in the Democratic party where base turnout is going to be up. When Democrats actually show up they win. And on average Trump's approval rating is lower than Obama's at this point. You can see a comparison of Trump vs other presidents here: How Popular Is Donald Trump?
I'm sure the Democrats who do show up will vote against President Trump no matter who the Democratic candidate is, but unless the Democrats have an attractive candidate, there won't be a strong turnout. Republicans, on the other hand, are outraged by the Russia scam and the phony impeachment and will turn out in huge numbers to support the President. In addition, Trump polls well among independents who will decide the election.

There's going to be a high turnout as this will be a referendum on Trump and everyone has an opinion.

I thought so too, but dem primary turnout pretty much sucks so far. Maybe it's the candidates.

No, just Iowa and they have a really fucked up system that prevents many from participating. New Hampshire was on par. Also, the dems aren't going to win Iowa anyway as it's trending in another direction and I'd kind of expect it to go down.
 
I'm still shocked that average Democrats haven't started a revolt against a clearly corrupt DNC
If I was a Democrat I would be furious that they changed the rules for his money.

Yeah, it sucks. Not nearly as corrupt as not allowing witnesses in an impeachment trial though. It looks as though the candidates will take care of Bloomberg so it doesn't matter much. Who's watching over Trump?
Omg

Stay on topic ffs.

I am on topic, I'm demonstrating our priorities. I'm not intending to vote for Bloomberg except in the general to get the more corrupt person out of office. While you at the same time are complaining about changing debate rules yet ignore the corruption of the guy you would vote for if you could. (Trump)

And lol at candidates fixing anything. The two least insane dems are kept out of the mix.

Now, this is off topic. My point is the Democratic candidates are looking to take care of the guy who got into the debates with the rule change. Those same candidates where I will be able to vote for.

I'd much rather be on the side with a little corruption compared to...well, you.
Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump

At least you're off of
Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia

Once again, you're pointing at a little corruption and ignoring the giant mountain of it in the guy you support. You can repeat yourself all you want.
 
After last night debate it is clear Bloomberg is toast as can be and either Mayor Peter or the Crazy Communist Uncle will win the 2020 Democratic Primary!

Bloomberg poor showing will only strengthen Warren and Sanders and Him ( Mini-Mike ) and Biden will just fall out after Super Tuesday...

So enjoy four more years of Trump and I know those that believe in the Bern will point to polls, yeah and then after November they will scream Russia once again!

Why can't you Democrats run someone worth voting for?

Oh well, so thanks Mini-Mike but no thanks because we already have Trump doing what you will do...


Opinion | Michael Bloomberg’s Monumental Failure to Prepare
Do you really thing that debate will influence the Super Tue primaries? I don't, but I also expect Sanders will win big in CA, and that will probably seal the deal, at least in terms of his having the most delegates at the convention.
Having the "most delegates at the convention" doesn't seal the deal, having a MAJORITY of delegates does and unless things change drastically there's a very good chance that the Democratic Convention will begin with no one having a majority (i.e. brokered convention); According to the revised DNC rules, on the 2nd vote super-delegates can vote and those votes actually count.

This is the problem with proportional delegate assignment and idealism absent common sense candidates like Comrade Sanders.
Well yeah, but how do the dems deny Bernie the nomination if he has the most delegates at the convention without breaking the party? Even is Bernie only has 25-30% of the delegates … they'll walk on the party

Yeah and if they nominate Comrade Sanders, everybody that's not a bleary eyed, idealistic socialist is likely to "walk on the party".

No evidence of this and actually polls show him beating Trump. The same polls that showed Clinton winning by 2-3% and as of now Sanders is higher. Not saying that will last but I wouldn't be making such bold predictions in a 50/50 country.
Doesn't mean anything since the campaign for the general election hasn't even begun (which means that most of the electorate knows little to nothing about Sanders), if he's the nominee the Trumpkins will have a field day with him and his radical left wing "ideas", who in their right mind thinks that "Democratic Socialism 'cause Denmark!" delivered by a flipped out 78 year old RADICAL is a winning combination for a general election? it is only if a majority of the American Electorate has gone completely fucking insane.


HappyJoy said:
Nightfox said:
It's setting up to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario for the Democrats, which is shame since it probably means that 4 more years of Donny is the best option we're going to have.

The clearest message I hear on a consistent basis is Trump has to go, that is the number 1 priority and in a way I've never seen in a previous election.

Yeah, that's the same message that was heard on a consistent basis from the Democrats about Georgey Boy in 2004.....nominate Sanders and that message is likely to change to "why bother voting?", just like it did when they nominated John Kerry.

It's far from a sure thing but given the Democrats penchant for stupidity and incompetence if the economy holds up I suspect Donny is in for another 4 years.
 
White 6, why in the f@ck would you consider voting for any of those "democrat" wack jobs? Mini Mike is the only one who actually had some common sense a decade ago. It is really unfortunate he is not Mayor of NYC now. Stop and frisk would definitely curtail the savage assaults so common in NYC under Big Bird De Blasio since the savages no the police are told to stand down.

Let's assume they had average intelligence, which none of them have - that is not to say they are not clever - Sleepy Joe, Mini Mike, Fauxchahantix, Crazy Bernie - made millions being clever scam artists, but just looking at them and visualizing them on the world stage is ridiculous. They are all ugly and short. Not to put down ugly short people, but evolution demands good looking, tall people as leaders. Simple biology.

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That sounds kind of shallow. I have no choice but to vote against trump. I am a retired cold warrior. I believe in NATO. I am anti-Russia. trump is pro-Russia. I am not impressed with "We will have all the best people". He fired or ran off anyone who was worth a sh^t. He put people in charge of cabinet positions that were the antithesis of people to support the work those or departments do, especially on environmental, agriculture, and education. He is now hiring a director of national intelligence with "Zero" experience in national intelligence to coordinate the work of those many intelligence departments. He and I rarely agree on military matters, from troop deployments, stupid troop withdrawals, robbing the military to build a wall he promised would be freely built by Mexico (knew that was a lie from the beginning), his support of totalitarian regimes and leaders. His tax policy did not hurt me any, but is horrible for the continued deficit spending. He is on track to make Obama accumulated deficits (incurred getting us out of the previous administration crashing the economy) look good. He has a strong tendency to double down on stupid when he speaks without thinking. Remember his hurricane forecast debacle? He is a supreme liar and propagandists, and I resent propaganda, as it insults basic intelligence and was I taught to despise liars through good upbringing and values. He has no self control, as witnessed by his constant asinine tweets. He has poor judgement about when to speak and when to keep his mouth shut, a really poor trait in a leader. I am not a trade war supporter. He is and can be because the family farmers are paying the price for it as he screws up their markets. He acts like a crook, associates with liars and crooks. He is (in my opinion), un-American and does not support the constitution upon which our republic stands. I thought he would grow into the job. He did not. He thinks it is all for him and acts to make it all for him. The presidency of the the United States was never meant to be operated in his self serving manor. Therefore I will vote for somebody else, hopefully closer to center left, but if I have to, I will even pull the Bernie or Lizzy lever to do my part to hopefully get this jerk out of that office.

Then you will get what you deserve.

Mark
 
[QUOTE="OldLady, post: 24092272, member: 56127"
You're right--I'd forgotten Maine Democrats (it's a closed primary) chose Sanders in 2016 by a big margin over Hillary. Looking on the bright side, we only have 4 electoral votes.

The open primaries, as opposed to the closed Maine one, are interesting --- I wonder how many people actually go to the trouble to register for the "wrong" party and go in and vote for somebody they think can't possible win against Trump. I know some people SAY they do, but who knows.[/QUOTE]
Some people are just too clever by half.
 
Do you really thing that debate will influence the Super Tue primaries? I don't, but I also expect Sanders will win big in CA, and that will probably seal the deal, at least in terms of his having the most delegates at the convention.
Having the "most delegates at the convention" doesn't seal the deal, having a MAJORITY of delegates does and unless things change drastically there's a very good chance that the Democratic Convention will begin with no one having a majority (i.e. brokered convention); According to the revised DNC rules, on the 2nd vote super-delegates can vote and those votes actually count.

This is the problem with proportional delegate assignment and idealism absent common sense candidates like Comrade Sanders.
Well yeah, but how do the dems deny Bernie the nomination if he has the most delegates at the convention without breaking the party? Even is Bernie only has 25-30% of the delegates … they'll walk on the party

Yeah and if they nominate Comrade Sanders, everybody that's not a bleary eyed, idealistic socialist is likely to "walk on the party".

No evidence of this and actually polls show him beating Trump. The same polls that showed Clinton winning by 2-3% and as of now Sanders is higher. Not saying that will last but I wouldn't be making such bold predictions in a 50/50 country.
Doesn't mean anything since the campaign for the general election hasn't even begun (which means that most of the electorate knows little to nothing about Sanders), if he's the nominee the Trumpkins will have a field day with him and his radical left wing "ideas", who in their right mind thinks that "Democratic Socialism 'cause Denmark!" delivered by a flipped out 78 year old RADICAL is a winning combination for a general election? it is only if a majority of the American Electorate has gone completely fucking insane.

I think if there is one thing Americans know about Sanders is that he is a Democratic Socialist, he's old as fuck, had a heart attack and is for Medicare for all. Trump has already pretty much called him a Socialist and Communist and he's still losing to him in the polls. That said I don't know how it's going to work out. What I do know is that the number one priority of most Democrats in a way I've never seen before is to just win, regardless of who the eventual nominee is.


HappyJoy said:
Nightfox said:
It's setting up to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario for the Democrats, which is shame since it probably means that 4 more years of Donny is the best option we're going to have.

The clearest message I hear on a consistent basis is Trump has to go, that is the number 1 priority and in a way I've never seen in a previous election.

Yeah, that's the same message that was heard on a consistent basis from the Democrats about Georgey Boy in 2004.....nominate Sanders and that message is likely to change to "why bother voting?", just like it did when they nominated John Kerry.

It's far from a sure thing but given the Democrats penchant for stupidity and incompetence if the economy holds up I suspect Donny is in for another 4 years.

No. It's not the same as 2004. Sure there is that sentiment always when trying to win against an unpopular incumbent but to where the absolute priority is to win regardless of who your own nominee is I haven't seen like this before. Is it enough? I don't know, hope so.
 
White 6, why in the f@ck would you consider voting for any of those "democrat" wack jobs? Mini Mike is the only one who actually had some common sense a decade ago. It is really unfortunate he is not Mayor of NYC now. Stop and frisk would definitely curtail the savage assaults so common in NYC under Big Bird De Blasio since the savages no the police are told to stand down.

Let's assume they had average intelligence, which none of them have - that is not to say they are not clever - Sleepy Joe, Mini Mike, Fauxchahantix, Crazy Bernie - made millions being clever scam artists, but just looking at them and visualizing them on the world stage is ridiculous. They are all ugly and short. Not to put down ugly short people, but evolution demands good looking, tall people as leaders. Simple biology.

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That sounds kind of shallow. I have no choice but to vote against trump. I am a retired cold warrior. I believe in NATO. I am anti-Russia. trump is pro-Russia. I am not impressed with "We will have all the best people". He fired or ran off anyone who was worth a sh^t. He put people in charge of cabinet positions that were the antithesis of people to support the work those or departments do, especially on environmental, agriculture, and education. He is now hiring a director of national intelligence with "Zero" experience in national intelligence to coordinate the work of those many intelligence departments. He and I rarely agree on military matters, from troop deployments, stupid troop withdrawals, robbing the military to build a wall he promised would be freely built by Mexico (knew that was a lie from the beginning), his support of totalitarian regimes and leaders. His tax policy did not hurt me any, but is horrible for the continued deficit spending. He is on track to make Obama accumulated deficits (incurred getting us out of the previous administration crashing the economy) look good. He has a strong tendency to double down on stupid when he speaks without thinking. Remember his hurricane forecast debacle? He is a supreme liar and propagandists, and I resent propaganda, as it insults basic intelligence and was I taught to despise liars through good upbringing and values. He has no self control, as witnessed by his constant asinine tweets. He has poor judgement about when to speak and when to keep his mouth shut, a really poor trait in a leader. I am not a trade war supporter. He is and can be because the family farmers are paying the price for it as he screws up their markets. He acts like a crook, associates with liars and crooks. He is (in my opinion), un-American and does not support the constitution upon which our republic stands. I thought he would grow into the job. He did not. He thinks it is all for him and acts to make it all for him. The presidency of the the United States was never meant to be operated in his self serving manor. Therefore I will vote for somebody else, hopefully closer to center left, but if I have to, I will even pull the Bernie or Lizzy lever to do my part to hopefully get this jerk out of that office.

Then you will get what you deserve.

Mark

Wow, such a strong rebuke. :21:

He summed up quite well all that has gone of the rails in the Trump administration that is important to him and you come back with you get what you deserve? Did you not read his post?
 
After last night debate it is clear Bloomberg is toast as can be and either Mayor Peter or the Crazy Communist Uncle will win the 2020 Democratic Primary!

Bloomberg poor showing will only strengthen Warren and Sanders and Him ( Mini-Mike ) and Biden will just fall out after Super Tuesday...

So enjoy four more years of Trump and I know those that believe in the Bern will point to polls, yeah and then after November they will scream Russia once again!

Why can't you Democrats run someone worth voting for?

Oh well, so thanks Mini-Mike but no thanks because we already have Trump doing what you will do...


Opinion | Michael Bloomberg’s Monumental Failure to Prepare
Do you really thing that debate will influence the Super Tue primaries? I don't, but I also expect Sanders will win big in CA, and that will probably seal the deal, at least in terms of his having the most delegates at the convention.
Having the "most delegates at the convention" doesn't seal the deal, having a MAJORITY of delegates does and unless things change drastically there's a very good chance that the Democratic Convention will begin with no one having a majority (i.e. brokered convention); According to the revised DNC rules, on the 2nd vote super-delegates can vote and those votes actually count.

This is the problem with proportional delegate assignment and idealism absent common sense candidates like Comrade Sanders.
Well yeah, but how do the dems deny Bernie the nomination if he has the most delegates at the convention without breaking the party? Even is Bernie only has 25-30% of the delegates … they'll walk on the party

Yeah and if they nominate Comrade Sanders, everybody that's not a bleary eyed, idealistic socialist is likely to "walk on the party".

No evidence of this and actually polls show him beating Trump. The same polls that showed Clinton winning by 2-3% and as of now Sanders is higher. Not saying that will last but I wouldn't be making such bold predictions in a 50/50 country.

It's setting up to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario for the Democrats, which is shame since it probably means that 4 more years of Donny is the best option we're going to have.

The clearest message I hear on a consistent basis is Trump has to go, that is the number 1 priority and in a way I've never seen in a previous election. In 2016 Trump was just a candidate nobody really knew what he would bring so some stayed home. Now to many he is a clear threat to democracy so much so that I'd vote for Bloomberg with a smile on my face in the general election and I can't stand that guy.
I did that in 2016; I refuse to do it again. I'll stay home if it's Bernie.
 
Do you really thing that debate will influence the Super Tue primaries? I don't, but I also expect Sanders will win big in CA, and that will probably seal the deal, at least in terms of his having the most delegates at the convention.
Having the "most delegates at the convention" doesn't seal the deal, having a MAJORITY of delegates does and unless things change drastically there's a very good chance that the Democratic Convention will begin with no one having a majority (i.e. brokered convention); According to the revised DNC rules, on the 2nd vote super-delegates can vote and those votes actually count.

This is the problem with proportional delegate assignment and idealism absent common sense candidates like Comrade Sanders.
Well yeah, but how do the dems deny Bernie the nomination if he has the most delegates at the convention without breaking the party? Even is Bernie only has 25-30% of the delegates … they'll walk on the party

Yeah and if they nominate Comrade Sanders, everybody that's not a bleary eyed, idealistic socialist is likely to "walk on the party".

No evidence of this and actually polls show him beating Trump. The same polls that showed Clinton winning by 2-3% and as of now Sanders is higher. Not saying that will last but I wouldn't be making such bold predictions in a 50/50 country.

It's setting up to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario for the Democrats, which is shame since it probably means that 4 more years of Donny is the best option we're going to have.

The clearest message I hear on a consistent basis is Trump has to go, that is the number 1 priority and in a way I've never seen in a previous election. In 2016 Trump was just a candidate nobody really knew what he would bring so some stayed home. Now to many he is a clear threat to democracy so much so that I'd vote for Bloomberg with a smile on my face in the general election and I can't stand that guy.
I did that in 2016; I refuse to do it again. I'll stay home if it's Bernie.

You did what in 2016?

You really think Sanders is worse than Trump? Do you care at all about climate change or do you want to continue to pretend we still have time? Get over yourself.
 
The nickname "mini-Mike" doesnt even make sense for a guy who is 5'8" and for an obese orange guy to throw out insults, it is a clear example of the pot calling the kettle black

He's 5' 6" maybe 5' 7" at best and he's so insecure about his stature he lied on his drivers license, claiming to be 5' 10".....:rofl:

Really?
oh well they are both out of touch asshole millionaires/billionaires who will never get my vote
Howdy, Paul. Stop by Introductions and I'll give you a snack.

I don't care if they're billionaires. Personal integrity and programs they promote are what matter to me.
 
White 6, why in the f@ck would you consider voting for any of those "democrat" wack jobs? Mini Mike is the only one who actually had some common sense a decade ago. It is really unfortunate he is not Mayor of NYC now. Stop and frisk would definitely curtail the savage assaults so common in NYC under Big Bird De Blasio since the savages no the police are told to stand down.

Let's assume they had average intelligence, which none of them have - that is not to say they are not clever - Sleepy Joe, Mini Mike, Fauxchahantix, Crazy Bernie - made millions being clever scam artists, but just looking at them and visualizing them on the world stage is ridiculous. They are all ugly and short. Not to put down ugly short people, but evolution demands good looking, tall people as leaders. Simple biology.

22cb3127b04163e2540c6580ee173f14
That sounds kind of shallow. I have no choice but to vote against trump. I am a retired cold warrior. I believe in NATO. I am anti-Russia. trump is pro-Russia. I am not impressed with "We will have all the best people". He fired or ran off anyone who was worth a sh^t. He put people in charge of cabinet positions that were the antithesis of people to support the work those or departments do, especially on environmental, agriculture, and education. He is now hiring a director of national intelligence with "Zero" experience in national intelligence to coordinate the work of those many intelligence departments. He and I rarely agree on military matters, from troop deployments, stupid troop withdrawals, robbing the military to build a wall he promised would be freely built by Mexico (knew that was a lie from the beginning), his support of totalitarian regimes and leaders. His tax policy did not hurt me any, but is horrible for the continued deficit spending. He is on track to make Obama accumulated deficits (incurred getting us out of the previous administration crashing the economy) look good. He has a strong tendency to double down on stupid when he speaks without thinking. Remember his hurricane forecast debacle? He is a supreme liar and propagandists, and I resent propaganda, as it insults basic intelligence and was I taught to despise liars through good upbringing and values. He has no self control, as witnessed by his constant asinine tweets. He has poor judgement about when to speak and when to keep his mouth shut, a really poor trait in a leader. I am not a trade war supporter. He is and can be because the family farmers are paying the price for it as he screws up their markets. He acts like a crook, associates with liars and crooks. He is (in my opinion), un-American and does not support the constitution upon which our republic stands. I thought he would grow into the job. He did not. He thinks it is all for him and acts to make it all for him. The presidency of the the United States was never meant to be operated in his self serving manor. Therefore I will vote for somebody else, hopefully closer to center left, but if I have to, I will even pull the Bernie or Lizzy lever to do my part to hopefully get this jerk out of that office.

Then you will get what you deserve.

Mark
Hope so, but it is certainly not "in the bag". I hope you get what you think you deserve.
 
Snouter,

if you voted for tramp, why?

I voted for President Trump because he was by far the best candidate in the primaries and in the general election against Crooked Hillary, she was just as bad as Obama. Meanwhile President Trump turned out to be the best President in American history. I will vote for him again when he wins in another landslide Nov. 3, 2020! Winning is a good feeling. You should try it sometime. Join us on the Trump train!
She's too stupid.
 
Having the "most delegates at the convention" doesn't seal the deal, having a MAJORITY of delegates does and unless things change drastically there's a very good chance that the Democratic Convention will begin with no one having a majority (i.e. brokered convention); According to the revised DNC rules, on the 2nd vote super-delegates can vote and those votes actually count.

This is the problem with proportional delegate assignment and idealism absent common sense candidates like Comrade Sanders.
Well yeah, but how do the dems deny Bernie the nomination if he has the most delegates at the convention without breaking the party? Even is Bernie only has 25-30% of the delegates … they'll walk on the party

Yeah and if they nominate Comrade Sanders, everybody that's not a bleary eyed, idealistic socialist is likely to "walk on the party".

No evidence of this and actually polls show him beating Trump. The same polls that showed Clinton winning by 2-3% and as of now Sanders is higher. Not saying that will last but I wouldn't be making such bold predictions in a 50/50 country.

It's setting up to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario for the Democrats, which is shame since it probably means that 4 more years of Donny is the best option we're going to have.

The clearest message I hear on a consistent basis is Trump has to go, that is the number 1 priority and in a way I've never seen in a previous election. In 2016 Trump was just a candidate nobody really knew what he would bring so some stayed home. Now to many he is a clear threat to democracy so much so that I'd vote for Bloomberg with a smile on my face in the general election and I can't stand that guy.
I did that in 2016; I refuse to do it again. I'll stay home if it's Bernie.

You did what in 2016?

You really think Sanders is worse than Trump? Do you care at all about climate change or do you want to continue to pretend we still have time? Get over yourself.
Having the "most delegates at the convention" doesn't seal the deal, having a MAJORITY of delegates does and unless things change drastically there's a very good chance that the Democratic Convention will begin with no one having a majority (i.e. brokered convention); According to the revised DNC rules, on the 2nd vote super-delegates can vote and those votes actually count.

This is the problem with proportional delegate assignment and idealism absent common sense candidates like Comrade Sanders.
Well yeah, but how do the dems deny Bernie the nomination if he has the most delegates at the convention without breaking the party? Even is Bernie only has 25-30% of the delegates … they'll walk on the party

Yeah and if they nominate Comrade Sanders, everybody that's not a bleary eyed, idealistic socialist is likely to "walk on the party".

No evidence of this and actually polls show him beating Trump. The same polls that showed Clinton winning by 2-3% and as of now Sanders is higher. Not saying that will last but I wouldn't be making such bold predictions in a 50/50 country.

It's setting up to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario for the Democrats, which is shame since it probably means that 4 more years of Donny is the best option we're going to have.

The clearest message I hear on a consistent basis is Trump has to go, that is the number 1 priority and in a way I've never seen in a previous election. In 2016 Trump was just a candidate nobody really knew what he would bring so some stayed home. Now to many he is a clear threat to democracy so much so that I'd vote for Bloomberg with a smile on my face in the general election and I can't stand that guy.
I did that in 2016; I refuse to do it again. I'll stay home if it's Bernie.

You did what in 2016?

You really think Sanders is worse than Trump? Do you care at all about climate change or do you want to continue to pretend we still have time? Get over yourself.
I'm an Independent and if the Dems want my vote again they are going to have to put up someone acceptable. I am still bitter that I felt I needed to vote for Hillary. If you had told me in 2014 that I would vote for Hillary Clinton in the Presidential election, I would have called you insane.

Not again. There are other ways to work on Climate Change than having Bernie Sanders at the helm.
 

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